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(Des Moines Register) Ironic Program that helps at-risk kids at risk of losing funding   (desmoinesregister.com) divider line 28
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2011-11-21 12:19:28 PM
Prisons are cheaper.
 
2011-11-21 01:56:13 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Prisons are cheaper.

No, they're not. If there is $1,500,000 being cut and there are 66 programs receiving part of that funding, then that's $22,727 per program. Each student in those programs obviously only costs a percentage of that.

The annual cost for housing a single prisoner in Illinois is $32,963
 
2011-11-21 02:16:28 PM
....so, at risk kids being at risk of....what again?
 
2011-11-21 02:18:56 PM
All kids are at risk. The program became unwieldy.
 
2011-11-21 02:19:24 PM
images.mylot.com
 
2011-11-21 02:20:34 PM
Mr. Potatoass: [images.mylot.com image 400x300]

Nice.

But seriously, how is this ironic?
 
2011-11-21 02:20:46 PM
Maybe they could apply for sports scholarships for school so they don't have to worry about academics.
Hey, maybe the kids parents could help them? Nah.
 
2011-11-21 02:21:37 PM
No one points out the misuse of the ironic tag?
 
2011-11-21 02:22:11 PM
That's not ironic, Alanismitter.
 
2011-11-21 02:22:14 PM
DRTFA.

Was the football coach running this one touching the kids too?
 
2011-11-21 02:24:24 PM
timujin: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Prisons are cheaper.

No, they're not. If there is $1,500,000 being cut and there are 66 programs receiving part of that funding, then that's $22,727 per program. Each student in those programs obviously only costs a percentage of that.

The annual cost for housing a single prisoner in Illinois is $32,963


Des Moines was asking for 1.5 million alone. I'm thinking that each of the 66 programs that are getting funding will get over a million each.
 
2011-11-21 02:25:57 PM
Like a death row pardon when you're already late.
 
2011-11-21 02:27:13 PM
kbronsito: DRTFA.

Was the football coach running this one touching the kids too?


Beaten.
 
2011-11-21 02:27:33 PM
www.thesecondmile.org
 
2011-11-21 02:28:14 PM
The Stealth Hippopotamus: Prisons are cheaper.

Prisons are almost the most expensive imaginable way to manage societal problems. And the least humane.
 
2011-11-21 02:28:17 PM
The article doesn't state why the funds are being denied. It could be fraud for all we know. Impossible to judge the situation as that article was so one sided.
 
2011-11-21 02:28:26 PM
www.fas.org

Fark education! $1.5M buys part of this awesome Tomahawk missile...

WE NEED MORE MISSILES NOT SMART KIDS...
 
2011-11-21 02:29:51 PM
Blah blah bootstraps blah blah job creators blah blah let them work for their handouts blah blah trickle down blah blah free market magic blah blah charity etc.

/got nothin'
//kinda like the kids
 
2011-11-21 02:32:11 PM
If the kids all worked cleaning their schools the school district could fire all the janitors, save $1.5M, and fund the program!
 
2011-11-21 02:37:59 PM
Wellon Dowd: If the kids all worked cleaning their schools the school district could fire all the janitors, save $1.5M, and fund the program!

my little snowflake is not going to do manual labor
 
2011-11-21 02:40:26 PM
www.stickycomics.com
 
2011-11-21 02:46:46 PM
What a waste of money, especially at Hoover. This is the same stupid district that killed its Tallented and Gifted program to fund open enrollment bussing (to bring thugs to this part of the city so they can ruin school for those who want to be there and learn) and ESL. No help for those doing the right thing, only fark ups.
 
2011-11-21 02:48:02 PM
Does anyone know if the program actually accomplish anything? Or is it enough to know that money is being thrown at the problem? Just curious.

The program's name stands for Gaining Early Awareness and Readiness for Undergraduate Programs. It is a federally funded program that Des Moines has used for certain students in the class of 2012 since they were in seventh grade at at-risk middle schools. The goal is to get all students involved in some type of post-secondary education.

Getting students involved in "some type of post-secondary education" isn't a goal. It's a strategy for achieving goals, but if you don't have a goal in mind other than going to college then you're wasting time and money.
 
2011-11-21 02:49:59 PM
The Bruce Dickinson: [www.fas.org image 640x429]

Fark education! $1.5M buys part of this awesome Tomahawk missile...

WE NEED MORE MISSILES NOT SMART KIDS...


Who's going to fire ze missiles?
 
2011-11-21 02:58:39 PM
Jingo Ate Your Baby: The Bruce Dickinson: [www.fas.org image 640x429]

Fark education! $1.5M buys part of this awesome Tomahawk missile...

WE NEED MORE MISSILES NOT SMART KIDS...

Who's going to fire ze missiles?


Computers?

Plus, if you fire ze missiles at schools, then their kids will be as dumb as ours, and they wont have missiles.
 
2011-11-21 02:58:51 PM
Witchyman: timujin: The Stealth Hippopotamus: Prisons are cheaper.

No, they're not. If there is $1,500,000 being cut and there are 66 programs receiving part of that funding, then that's $22,727 per program. Each student in those programs obviously only costs a percentage of that.

The annual cost for housing a single prisoner in Illinois is $32,963

Des Moines was asking for 1.5 million alone. I'm thinking that each of the 66 programs that are getting funding will get over a million each.


You're correct, that $1.5 million is split over 10 schools, not 66 programs (the article isn't especially well written), which means $150k per school. Over the 176 days of the Illinois school year, that's $852/day.

Now, I don't know which 10 schools are receiving these funds, so I don't know exactly how many students get that funding. But there are 30,683 students in the 63 schools in the Des Moines public school system, an average of just over 1439 per school. The requirement to receive funding is that over 50% of the students must be eligible for reduced or free lunches. Let's be conservative and go with the minimum, which is 720 students per school.

$852 per school per day divided by those 720 students is $1.18 per student per day. $1.18 times the 176 days is $208 per student per year.

The caveat for all of this is whether or not I'm understanding the article correctly, it goes off into counselor and adviser roles and whatnot, but the paragraph I'm focusing on is this:

For school districts to be eligible for the grant, 50 percent of students must be eligible for the free or reduced-price lunch program. Last time Des Moines applied, eight of the 11 middle schools were eligible for money. Now, 10 of the 11 middle schools qualify, so the district asked for $1.5 million annually in funding to maintain levels of service, Wright said.
 
2011-11-21 03:45:45 PM
Get with the program, Iowa. The non-racist term is "at-hope".
 
2011-11-21 04:47:23 PM
Post america is a tough place and it's going to get a lot worse before people will do what must done to make it better. I am so very glad I don't have children.
 
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