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2011-11-21 03:52:37 AM  

Oznog: Actual photo of the Super Power Building as it stands today.


As it stands in North Korea? You could have at least rehosted it to remove the image name...

/ is that the joke?
 
2011-11-21 03:56:48 AM  

You Cant Explain That: Silais:
Especially when you factor in how Scientologists, directly contrasting every single other religion on the face of the planet, refuse to discuss what their 'religion' is actually about (new window)

It is in no way any less ridiculous than what christians believe. Science fiction is science fiction

/no religion should be tax exempt unless they do not make a profit in any form, and are for charitable purposes only.


riveraveblues.com

The point I was trying to make was that if you asked anyone else in any other religion, cult, or other significant collection of like-minded people what they are about, they will tell you. Many will gladly talk both ears off trying to convert you.
 
2011-11-21 03:59:05 AM  
I'd like to think that if Osama Bin Laden had gone and blown this building up, the Government might've just turned around and say "OK, we're even."
 
2011-11-21 04:01:50 AM  

jingks: Oznog: Actual photo of the Super Power Building as it stands today.

As it stands in North Korea? You could have at least rehosted it to remove the image name...

/ is that the joke?


You had to mouseover the image name to figure this one out?

You're... new to the Internets, aren't you?
 
2011-11-21 04:09:51 AM  

Oznog: Actual photo of the Super Power Building as it stands today.


I thought about that too, but Scientology was smarter than North Korea. They built the exterior, painted it and made it look all pretty except for one corner that most people wouldn't notice unless they were driving down Scientology Lane anyway.

North Korea finally figured out the value of a shiny exterior too, you know, cause it doesn't look like that anymore (2011 version, still bet the elevators don't work though):

c1038.r38.cf3.rackcdn.com
 
2011-11-21 04:20:17 AM  
Am I the only one who thinks church and state shouldn't be separated?

Since we will always have gullible idiots, we might as well make a profit from them.
 
2011-11-21 04:29:07 AM  

BroVinny: SphericalTime: Is it weird to feel sorry for an entire religion?

When it's founded by a science fiction writer based off a bar bet with another science fiction writer?


That story is generally considered apocryphal. However, Scientology is stupid.
 
2011-11-21 04:35:15 AM  
Why don't they just get Tom Cruise or some other high OT level member to simply will the building into existence, they're supposed to be able to do that sort of thing right?

Though, I guess if he could do that then he'd at least will his career back into existence first.
 
2011-11-21 04:35:31 AM  

Oznog: [www.xenu.net image 640x494][www.xenu.net image 640x347]
[www.xenu.net image 640x449]

But I can't knock their sense of style in these CGI Mockup Renderings of the Super Power Building interior (new window), seeking to fulfill the visions of a whole lot of scifi movies.

Of course, none of these are actual photos, this is the same unfinished Super Power Building of TFA.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 640x853]

Actual photo of the Super Power Building as it stands today.


Huh. Those all REALLY look like sets from Mass Effect, Star Trek and the Star Wars prequels.

As scary and corrupt as it is, i love how far a religion started by a science fiction author has spread. A real testament to the stupidity of people. Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.
 
2011-11-21 04:36:20 AM  

LrdPhoenix: Why don't they just get Tom Cruise or some other high OT level member to simply will the building into existence, they're supposed to be able to do that sort of thing right?

Though, I guess if he could do that then he'd at least will his career back into existence first.


Tom Cruise only has complete and total control over reality while inside his closet.
 
2011-11-21 04:36:52 AM  

Oznog: But I can't knock their sense of style in these CGI Mockup Renderings of the Super Power Building interior (new window), seeking to fulfill the visions of a whole lot of scifi movies.


"Space:1999" was the first thing I thought of with that corridor rendering.
 
2011-11-21 04:41:06 AM  

Confabulat: Oznog: Actual photo of the Super Power Building as it stands today.

I thought about that too, but Scientology was smarter than North Korea. They built the exterior, painted it and made it look all pretty except for one corner that most people wouldn't notice unless they were driving down Scientology Lane anyway.

North Korea finally figured out the value of a shiny exterior too, you know, cause it doesn't look like that anymore (2011 version, still bet the elevators don't work though):

[c1038.r38.cf3.rackcdn.com image 292x340]


Was gonna say the same thing. Orascom has been dumping money into it in exchange for being able to have the country's 3G contract. The interior's apparently still a mess.
 
2011-11-21 04:44:44 AM  

You Cant Explain That: It is in no way any less ridiculous than what christians believe. Science fiction is science fiction


Here's the difference: Ask a priest or Catholic spokesman about Transubstantiation (new window) and he's not going to scream at you and storm off.
 
2011-11-21 04:45:22 AM  

Pesky_Humans: Corporate Scientology is unbelievable. Big money. Bigger scam.

I have a guy here in my town that defected from the church a few years ago and about 8 months ago, there were all of the sudden a bunch of hired goons on the set to start harassing him as he de-programmed other people who got fed up with the church.

He was the second highest ranking member of the church, just under David Miscavige. He spearheaded the effort to get the COS tax exempt status, so when he left, it was a huge deal.

So now there is a squad of private investigators, cameramen, and church operatives doing everything they can to harass this guy and his wife. In a town of 9,000 people in deep south Texas. They rented a house up the street, and a half a dozen cars to follow him around. The church is spending tens of thousands of dollars a week to try to make their life hell.

They are regulars in the restaurant I own and the goons started bringing in their cameras and trying to film in my spot. I told them they were either going to cut the crap or they would no longer be welcome at the only good steak house within a hundred mile radius, which in a town this small is not a nice look. TX has managed to screw up every food product on planet earth; any society that manages to make Mexican food bland and thinks that Whataburger is the be-all end-all of burgers should be ashamed at the very least.

Some stories relating to this situation are rather interesting and worth a read.

Link (new window)

Link (new window)

Link (new window)
/CSB on the real


Huh. I wonder why I've never heard a crazy person ranting about how Scientologists are out to get him?

I mean, aliens, FBI, CIA, government satellites, HARP... all that makes perfect sense, but NOT Scientologists???

Scientologists reading your mail, hacking your online accounts, putting secret cameras in the trees, poisoning your dog, putting drugs in your water, getting CPS to take your kids away with false reports, beaming microwaves into your home... are all remotely plausible.
 
2011-11-21 05:02:36 AM  

Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.


When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."
 
2011-11-21 05:07:06 AM  

Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."


soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?
 
2011-11-21 05:11:35 AM  

kvinesknows: Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."

soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?


Yes. Yes you are. Shame on you.
 
2011-11-21 05:11:54 AM  
battlefield earth- a great movie when one is really, and i mean really wasted and wanting a laugh.
Or, a nice nap
 
2011-11-21 05:12:45 AM  

kvinesknows: soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?


It's funny in that Plan 9 way, so I like it too. But as intended as a serious sci-fi flick? How high were you?
 
2011-11-21 05:13:51 AM  

kvinesknows: Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."

soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?


but for the wrong reasons.
your not meant to be watching it with a MST3K commentary going on in the back of your head.
 
2011-11-21 05:16:09 AM  

buckler: Oznog: But I can't knock their sense of style in these CGI Mockup Renderings of the Super Power Building interior (new window), seeking to fulfill the visions of a whole lot of scifi movies.

"Space:1999" was the first thing I thought of with that corridor rendering.


Hmm, I don't remember all that much of Space 1999, but I can't find any stills that look like that.

1.bp.blogspot.com
UFO, the ancestor of Space 1999, DOES have some which ring a bell though.

Grand Lobby is from Jurassic Park.

Second one, the "Motion Quadrant", is Men In Black's HQ.
Hallway I saw much more as Star Trek TNG stuff. Well, a lot of it is Star Trek TNG's main bridge.

Minority Report... Cloud City (from Empire Strikes Back)... 2001... Nostromo from Alien.... there's a LOT going on here.

Aesthetically, they nailed it. Of course, practicality and genuine architectural progress are two different things. Not sure whether it's "innovative" to rip off prior scifi art, well, it's "new" to make an actual building interior with it.

Architecture which doesn't meet requirements of daily human usage as its purpose tends to be "a problem", as does initial cost and maintenance of unnecessary surfaces and variety of materials.
 
2011-11-21 05:28:34 AM  
With a bit of luck their most desired superpower is flight, so one day all the $cientologists will form an orderly line and jump of the roof of the damned tower.
 
2011-11-21 05:36:47 AM  

Zenith: kvinesknows: Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."

soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?

but for the wrong reasons.
your not meant to be watching it with a MST3K commentary going on in the back of your head.


EXTERMINATE ALL MAN-ANIMALS!!!

Hey, I gotta credit the writing at a few points.
The one corrupt alien dude who was out to screw the government by using the humans to bring him gold which he'd hide away for his retirement... a welcome departure from the simple "we are an evil organization, all unified in our evil mission" antagonists. It gave a bit of depth. I'm often confused by "evil" which has no clear explanation of self-interest. Emperor Palpatine was "evil", but I'm not really sure what he was even getting out of any of this. He wasn't advancing a political philosophy he thought the universe needed to be able to survive in the future. Vader's unwavering loyalty to the Emperor was equally hard to explain.

The "do you think I wouldn't notice these are refined bars, not from a gold mine?" Nice. Because I'd been led to believe that this was going to be a glaring plot hole that just wasn't thought of by the writer. No, it's because the main characters were naive and deluded to think such a transparent plot would ever work.

Meh, I'd have to watch it again to remember much more, but I don't think I could bear to. The ending was pretty bad IIRC, a shuttlecraft teleporting off to the alien world with some kind of world-destroying suicide bomb they just pulled out of their asses. Very cheap way to resolve the plot.
 
2011-11-21 05:48:58 AM  

Oznog: buckler: Oznog: But I can't knock their sense of style in these CGI Mockup Renderings of the Super Power Building interior (new window), seeking to fulfill the visions of a whole lot of scifi movies.

"Space:1999" was the first thing I thought of with that corridor rendering.

Hmm, I don't remember all that much of Space 1999, but I can't find any stills that look like that.


www.space1999.net

Best I could do on short notice and little sleep.
 
2011-11-21 05:49:40 AM  

Doombuggyman: You Cant Explain That: It is in no way any less ridiculous than what christians believe. Science fiction is science fiction

Here's the difference: Ask a priest or Catholic spokesman about Transubstantiation (new window) and he's not going to scream at you and storm off.


Oh, they will if you stick at it long enough. But it will take a lot of work.
 
2011-11-21 06:10:37 AM  
FTA:

Scientology's founder said in 1978 he considered civilization to be in terrible decline. He cited crime, drug abuse, TV watching, a poor educational system, a dwindling food supply.


Does the fact the most famous and vocal proponents of Scientology are actors, both TV and movie qualify this statement as fitting the often argued definition of "irony"?

Are TV watching morons who mimic their celebrities by joining Scientology contributing to the downfall of civilization by joining Scientology?

Hey, L. Ron Hubbard himself suggested it, I'm not going to argue against that logic.
 
2011-11-21 06:20:23 AM  

Oznog: Zenith: kvinesknows: Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."

soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?

but for the wrong reasons.
your not meant to be watching it with a MST3K commentary going on in the back of your head.

EXTERMINATE ALL MAN-ANIMALS!!!

Hey, I gotta credit the writing at a few points.
The one corrupt alien dude who was out to screw the government by using the humans to bring him gold which he'd hide away for his retirement... a welcome departure from the simple "we are an evil organization, all unified in our evil mission" antagonists. It gave a bit of depth. I'm often confused by "evil" which has no clear explanation of self-interest. Emperor Palpatine was "evil", but I'm not really sure what he was even getting out of any of this. He wasn't advancing a political philosophy he thought the universe needed to be able to survive in the future. Vader's unwavering loyalty to the Emperor was equally hard to explain.

The "do you think I wouldn't notice these are refined bars, not from a gold mine?" Nice. Because I'd been led to believe that this was going to be a glaring plot hole that just wasn't thought of by the writer. No, it's because the main characters were naive and deluded to think such a transparent plot would ever work.

Meh, I'd have to watch it again to remember much more, but I don't think I could bear to. The ending was pretty bad IIRC, a shuttlecraft teleporting off to the alien world with some kind of world-destroying suicide bomb they just pulled out of their asses. Very cheap way to resolve the plot.


If i remember the plot points correctly, radiation from Nukes reacted catastrophically with the atmosphere of those aliens, and they teleported a nuke to the alien homeworld. I'd have thought that'd just ignite the atmosphere, in my opinion, not instantly obliterate the planet.
 
2011-11-21 06:23:00 AM  
This building had at least a 30 ft X 30 foot opening (probably a lot bigger than that, it was a couple of floors) directly into its exterior on the top NW floor facing the Gulf of Mexico for at least 5 years. During some quite active tropical weather here in the Tampa Bay area.

The Church didn't even put up a tarp or anything. How does that work exactly, construction-wise?
 
2011-11-21 06:24:59 AM  
onto its "interior" I meant. What's the plan for tropical storms to whistle through your building with nothing stopping it for five years (at least) exactly? Is that evil Xenu at work again?
 
2011-11-21 06:26:41 AM  

feckingmorons: They do have lots of hot women though. The hottie to not hot ratio is at least 7 or 8 to 1.


Don't stick your dick in crazy.

Totally not worth it, sure it's great for the duration, followed by much regret.
 
2011-11-21 06:40:32 AM  

buckler: Oznog: buckler: Oznog: But I can't knock their sense of style in these CGI Mockup Renderings of the Super Power Building interior (new window), seeking to fulfill the visions of a whole lot of scifi movies.

"Space:1999" was the first thing I thought of with that corridor rendering.

Hmm, I don't remember all that much of Space 1999, but I can't find any stills that look like that.

[www.space1999.net image 640x468]

Best I could do on short notice and little sleep.


Nice! OK, don't remember that, but that definitely qualifies.
 
2011-11-21 07:22:44 AM  

Pesky_Humans: TX has managed to screw up every food product on planet earth; any society that manages to make Mexican food bland and thinks that Whataburger is the be-all end-all of burgers should be ashamed at the very least.


Dunno. My Texas native co-workers seem to think Five Brothers is the best. For fast food, Whataburger seems at worst "ok" or slightly above the other mass market fast food, but Im not big on fast food burgers to start with.

Oznog: EXTERMINATE ALL MAN-ANIMALS!!!

Hey, I gotta credit the writing at a few points.


Plus, it had the chick with the long tongue

returnofthespacegods.files.wordpress.com.
 
2011-11-21 07:47:18 AM  

Oznog: Hey, I gotta credit the writing at a few points.


No. You don't. That movie was awful.
 
2011-11-21 07:50:50 AM  

Satanic_Hamster:
Dunno. My Texas native co-workers seem to think Five Brothers is the best. For fast food, Whataburger seems at worst "ok" or slightly above the other mass market fast food, but Im not big on fast food burgers to start with.



I'm a native Texan as well, and I have to say this is a fair assessment.

When you compare Whataburger to like of McDonalds, Burger King, Jack In The Box and other "drive through" fast food joints they win hands down. Their closest competition is probably Wendy's. As far as service goes they have the best service of any of those types of places, when you eat inside they actually bring the food to your table and they manufacture their own ketchup which has it's own following (just Google "Whataburger Ketchup").

If Five Brothers is the same as Five Guys then I'll have to agree, Five Guys beats the heck out of Whataburger in every area but customer service. There's another burger joint in this area that started as a knock-off of Five Guys since they used to not exist here called Mooyah which is really good also. Now that Five Guys is actually moving into this area Mooyah is going to have to compete with the original, as long as they space them out they can coexist.

Nothing beats a real hunk of fresh beef hot off a BBQ grill served with fresh fixings out on a ranch. I've had that. I want that again.
 
2011-11-21 07:57:32 AM  

pecosdave: Satanic_Hamster:
Dunno. My Texas native co-workers seem to think Five Brothers is the best. For fast food, Whataburger seems at worst "ok" or slightly above the other mass market fast food, but Im not big on fast food burgers to start with.

I'm a native Texan as well, and I have to say this is a fair assessment.

When you compare Whataburger to like of McDonalds, Burger King, Jack In The Box and other "drive through" fast food joints they win hands down. Their closest competition is probably Wendy's. As far as service goes they have the best service of any of those types of places, when you eat inside they actually bring the food to your table and they manufacture their own ketchup which has it's own following (just Google "Whataburger Ketchup").

If Five Brothers is the same as Five Guys then I'll have to agree, Five Guys beats the heck out of Whataburger in every area but customer service. There's another burger joint in this area that started as a knock-off of Five Guys since they used to not exist here called Mooyah which is really good also. Now that Five Guys is actually moving into this area Mooyah is going to have to compete with the original, as long as they space them out they can coexist.

Nothing beats a real hunk of fresh beef hot off a BBQ grill served with fresh fixings out on a ranch. I've had that. I want that again.


Dammit! Now i'm hungry. Bastard!
 
2011-11-21 08:10:36 AM  

Pesky_Humans: Corporate Scientology is unbelievable. Big money. Bigger scam.

I have a guy here in my town that defected from the church a few years ago and about 8 months ago, there were all of the sudden a bunch of hired goons on the set to start harassing him as he de-programmed other people who got fed up with the church.

He was the second highest ranking member of the church, just under David Miscavige. He spearheaded the effort to get the COS tax exempt status, so when he left, it was a huge deal.

So now there is a squad of private investigators, cameramen, and church operatives doing everything they can to harass this guy and his wife. In a town of 9,000 people in deep south Texas. They rented a house up the street, and a half a dozen cars to follow him around. The church is spending tens of thousands of dollars a week to try to make their life hell



Well, to be fair, he IS a suppressive person. I mean, c'mon. SP!
 
2011-11-21 08:40:17 AM  
There's this one scene in a porn I have with two women going at it on top of a building somewhere in L.A., and from some angles you can see the blue neon cross that's on top of one of the Scientology buildings. I've seen another one that uses a zoom in over one of the Scientology buildings in Florida or California before it goes to the filth. I take it Scienos don't work in the pron industry.
 
2011-11-21 08:44:57 AM  

Smoking GNU: Oznog: Zenith: kvinesknows: Doombuggyman: Cyno01: Oznog: Just watched battlefield earth a few weeks ago, man, that really is one of the worst movies ever.

When that film was released to theaters, it was amazing watching the Scientologists come out of the woodwork to claim critics were "out of touch" and "just didn't get it..." because clearly the fault didn't lie with the film. I even remember one Scientologist telling me she didn't like Battlefield Earth either the first four times she watched it. "If you didn't like it, why on Earth would you watch it at least five times?" I asked. She replied, "Because the Church said that the film was good, and if someone didn't like it, that meant there was something wrong with them."

soooo. am i the only person who liked the movie?

but for the wrong reasons.
your not meant to be watching it with a MST3K commentary going on in the back of your head.

EXTERMINATE ALL MAN-ANIMALS!!!

Hey, I gotta credit the writing at a few points.
The one corrupt alien dude who was out to screw the government by using the humans to bring him gold which he'd hide away for his retirement... a welcome departure from the simple "we are an evil organization, all unified in our evil mission" antagonists. It gave a bit of depth. I'm often confused by "evil" which has no clear explanation of self-interest. Emperor Palpatine was "evil", but I'm not really sure what he was even getting out of any of this. He wasn't advancing a political philosophy he thought the universe needed to be able to survive in the future. Vader's unwavering loyalty to the Emperor was equally hard to explain.

The "do you think I wouldn't notice these are refined bars, not from a gold mine?" Nice. Because I'd been led to believe that this was going to be a glaring plot hole that just wasn't thought of by the writer. No, it's because the main characters were naive and deluded to think such a transparent plot would ever work.

Meh, I'd have to watch it again to remember much more, but I don't think I could bear to. The ending was pretty bad IIRC, a shuttlecraft teleporting off to the alien world with some kind of world-destroying suicide bomb they just pulled out of their asses. Very cheap way to resolve the plot.

If i remember the plot points correctly, radiation from Nukes reacted catastrophically with the atmosphere of those aliens, and they teleported a nuke to the alien homeworld. I'd have thought that'd just ignite the atmosphere, in my opinion, not instantly obliterate the planet.


johnny goodboy tyler. oy.

/read the book
//hangs head in shame
 
2011-11-21 09:14:37 AM  
Church of Scientology bought and renovated the old Science Museum in St. Paul. I just shake my head every time I see it.
 
2011-11-21 09:20:47 AM  

Smoking GNU: pecosdave:

Nothing beats a real hunk of fresh beef hot off a BBQ grill served with fresh fixings out on a ranch. I've had that. I want that again.


Satanic_Hamster:

Dammit! Now i'm hungry. Bastard!


Did I mention I'm from far West Texas? It was BBQed over mesquite collected from around the ranch and over by the river.
 
2011-11-21 09:38:04 AM  

pecosdave: I'm a native Texan as well, and I have to say this is a fair assessment.

When you compare Whataburger to like of McDonalds, Burger King, Jack In The Box and other "drive through" fast food joints they win hands down. Their closest competition is probably Wendy's. As far as service goes they have the best service of any of those types of places, when you eat inside they actually bring the food to your table and they manufacture their own ketchup which has it's own following (just Google "Whataburger Ketchup").

If Five Brothers is the same as Five Guys then I'll have to agree, Five Guys beats the heck out of Whataburger in every area but customer service. There's another burger joint in this area that started as a knock-off of Five Guys since they used to not exist here called Mooyah which is really good also. Now that Five Guys is actually moving into this area Mooyah is going to have to compete with the original, as long as they space them out they can coexist.

Nothing beats a real hunk of fresh beef hot off a BBQ grill served with fresh fixings out on a ranch. I've had that. I want that again.


Hmmm. Yes, think you're right, Five Guys.
 
2011-11-21 10:03:20 AM  

Smoking GNU: If i remember the plot points correctly, radiation from Nukes reacted catastrophically with the atmosphere of those aliens, and they teleported a nuke to the alien homeworld. I'd have thought that'd just ignite the atmosphere, in my opinion, not instantly obliterate the planet.


The movie only covered half of the story. The actual book has the best ending ever!

In the middle of a losing war against various alien groups the accountants come to the rescue by issuing low cost loans and securities backed by assets held by the now deceased Psyclo empire. For those who haven't read Battlefield Earth out of curiousity, I'm sorry I spoiled the ending for you. But seriously, how awesome is it when the finance department saves the day?

/accountant
 
2011-11-21 10:13:59 AM  
Meh. I'd rather believe in the Force.

Besides, there are plenty of hot women without having to touch Scientology with a 10-mile pole.
 
2011-11-21 10:22:14 AM  
Public Savant:Yes. You are the only one. Separation is mandatory because religion is full of idiots.
 
2011-11-21 10:33:36 AM  
Had no idea the CEO of Taylor guitars was a Scientologist. Glad I don't play their guitars then. I'd hate to indirectly support that wacky cult.
 
2011-11-21 10:45:02 AM  
Pelosi must be consulting for them or the stole her old "cant know what is in it till you pass it"
 
2011-11-21 10:48:13 AM  
The point is not that Scientology believes in silly fictional stories. All religions do that. The point is that Scientology isn't a religion at all; it's a Ponzi scheme/cult based on a form of quack psychology intended to separate fools from their money, and it uses mafia-like methods to protect itself and spread. An e-meter has no more scientific basis than a divining rod. The Xenu nonsense was grafted on to Dianetics to get tax-exempt status; who knows if any Scientologists actually believe that garbage. I seriously doubt Miscavage does.
 
2011-11-21 11:02:10 AM  

mbillips: The point is not that Scientology believes in silly fictional stories. All religions do that. The point is that Scientology isn't a religion at all; it's a Ponzi scheme/cult based on a form of quack psychology intended to separate fools from their money, and it uses mafia-like methods to protect itself and spread. An e-meter has no more scientific basis than a divining rod. The Xenu nonsense was grafted on to Dianetics to get tax-exempt status; who knows if any Scientologists actually believe that garbage. I seriously doubt Miscavage does.


Sounds alot like the carbon credit ponzi scheme, with gore playing the Xenu part.
 
2011-11-21 11:07:16 AM  
It's going to take a long time to get that up over 9000.
 
2011-11-21 11:10:31 AM  

Andrew Wiggin:
/read the book
//hangs head in shame


I liked the book. I hated the film.
 
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