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(Yahoo) Interesting Early vote count has Spain's center-right party winning that country's parliamentary election. For those of you playing in the US, substitute "far-left, socialist, communist, pinko party"   (uk.news.yahoo.com) divider line 95
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2011-11-20 03:32:37 PM
see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?
 
MBK [TotalFark]
2011-11-20 03:38:49 PM
FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Saturday is College Football

Sunday is NFL
 
2011-11-20 03:40:54 PM
MBK: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Saturday is College Football

Sunday is NFL


Move the election to March and return the inauguration to April. TADA.
 
2011-11-20 03:43:37 PM
FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?


Because changing it would require a Constitutional amendment, and I doubt you could get that many people in politics to agree that the sky is often blue.
 
2011-11-20 03:46:02 PM
Relatively Obscure: Because changing it would require a Constitutional amendment, and I doubt you could get that many people in politics to agree that the sky is often blue.

Wow. I farked that up all kinds of hard. Dunno WHY I thought the date was set in there.

/Can't brain today
 
2011-11-20 03:53:11 PM
see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

A lot of Americans used to believe that travel on the Sabbath was only allowed during an emergency. And voting used to take place at the county seat, and in the days of horse-powered travel it was often a long trip. That's why it's on a Tuesday.

It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.
 
2011-11-20 04:04:01 PM
RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

which is why republicans are always against making it a national holiday or moving it to saturday.
 
2011-11-20 04:05:31 PM
Subby gets a +1 for the HL.
 
2011-11-20 04:05:42 PM
RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

In the US, is there any legislation that insists that working people get time off to vote? The last couple of elections, I also saw and heard lots of examples of lineups in the US lasting all day. That doesn't strike me as particularly friendly for the working poor to vote.
 
2011-11-20 04:07:03 PM
unyon: that doesn't strike me as particularly friendly for the working poor to vote a representative republic.
 
2011-11-20 04:07:27 PM
RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

A lot of the poorer people are the ones working weekends. And school isn't watching their children for them on a Sunday like it is on a Tuesday. No matter what day it is on, it will always be a hassle to somebody. Most states accommodate with required time off to vote, often paid time off. And then their are absentee ballots.
 
2011-11-20 04:12:48 PM
their? I need a nap
 
2011-11-20 04:36:20 PM
violentsalvation: their? I need a nap

And a beer
 
2011-11-20 04:42:54 PM
I hereby declare that all Americans will care about this news for two hours! Rejoice in the greatness that is America's attention span for other country's politics!
 
2011-11-20 04:51:22 PM
jehovahs witness protection: violentsalvation: their? I need a nap

And a beer


After the nap.
 
2011-11-20 05:18:21 PM
Partido Popular is the Christian Democrat party in Spain.

I'm Fine Gael so I like what Spain is doing. They see their mistake electing a Socialist (PSOE) Presidente de Gob .
 
2011-11-20 05:26:17 PM
I don't see why we can't move to mail in or online ballots.

There are plenty of ways to prevent fraud using any of those systems and it would get more people voting then it would otherwise.
 
2011-11-20 05:44:29 PM
Relatively Obscure: Relatively Obscure: Because changing it would require a Constitutional amendment, and I doubt you could get that many people in politics to agree that the sky is often blue.

Wow. I farked that up all kinds of hard. Dunno WHY I thought the date was set in there.

/Can't brain today


Not to mention the sky is not actually blue, it's kind of a light purple, but the brain maps it to cerulean blue because of metamer weirdness.

/Fark, where pedanticism is never restrained
 
2011-11-20 06:07:11 PM
ihopOVERpancakes: I hereby declare that all Americans will care about this news for two hours! Rejoice in the greatness that is America's attention span for other country's politics!

You very much over estimated. The thread discussion didn't even make it beyond the Weeners without being shifted back to talking about the US.
 
2011-11-20 06:07:54 PM
Ah, apparently the filter also knows Spanish.
 
2011-11-20 06:35:29 PM
So they are electing Franco 2.0? It went so well the first time. Maybe Merkel will bomb Gernika just for old times sake.
 
2011-11-20 06:38:05 PM
2wolves: Subby gets a +1 for the HL.

Yeah, it's amazing how few Americans understand this. Sure, there are Republican Party analogs in European politics, but they're considered seriously fringe and only occasionally put a member or two in a Parliament or score well in elections. Jean-Marie Le Pen is about as "American Republican" as France has gotten in recent years, and he's uniformly described in their press as "far-right-wing nationalist".

The rest of the world understands that "right wing" means "not in fact communist". The Democratic Party in the US is "right wing" in the rest of the world. Centrist means "socialist".
 
2011-11-20 06:45:12 PM
revrendjim: So they are electing Franco 2.0? It went so well the first time. Maybe Merkel will bomb Gernika just for old times sake.

I hate that painting.

/Guernica
 
2011-11-20 06:50:04 PM
Now for the why on how the Spanish economy may be screwed for decades: El café es para los cerradores. (new window)
 
2011-11-20 06:51:49 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

What a Spanish center rightist might look like.
 
2011-11-20 06:57:04 PM
Bunnyhat: I don't see why we can't move to mail in or online ballots.

There are plenty of ways to prevent fraud using any of those systems and it would get more people voting then it would otherwise.


We have vote-by-mail here in Oregon. It works just fine.
 
2011-11-20 07:00:23 PM
vernonFL: [4.bp.blogspot.com image 400x300]

What a Spanish center rightist might look like.


Must be after 5.
 
2011-11-20 07:04:22 PM
Wait....in Spain "center-right" means "socialist"?
 
2011-11-20 07:04:57 PM
FlashHarry: RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

which is why republicans are always against making it a national holiday or moving it to saturday.


If you have the merest smidgen of a fraction of a hair of a desire to vote, you can find a way. If it's too much trouble to drag your ass to the poll over an X-hour (typically 12) span on election day you can vote early at the registrar's office. You can get an absentee ballot way in advance and fill it out at your leisure. I've done both and have missed exactly one election in all the time I've been voting, due to an emergency last-minute trip. We make voting ridiculously easy in this country. If you're not taking advantage of it, then you're either stupid, lazy, or apathetic and we're better off without your probably ill-informed vote anyway.
 
2011-11-20 07:06:13 PM
MBK: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Saturday is College Football

Sunday is NFL


because Sunday is church day and wait.. hmm.... why aren't republicans pushing for voting booths in churches, would seem to boost their base turnout...
 
2011-11-20 07:06:36 PM
MBA Whore: Wait....in Spain "center-right" means "socialist"?

In Teabaggereze, yes.
 
2011-11-20 07:07:54 PM
FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

I don't know about your state, but here in California your employer is required to give you paid time off to vote.
 
2011-11-20 07:08:36 PM
GAT_00: MBK: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Saturday is College Football

Sunday is NFL

Move the election to March and return the inauguration to April. TADA.


I'd prefer elections be held in April. The day after the tax deadline.
 
2011-11-20 07:09:01 PM
MBA Whore: Wait....in Spain "center-right" means "socialist"?

No. In America, "socialist" means "center-right". As in "Obama is a socialist".
 
2011-11-20 07:22:21 PM
Virulency: MBK: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Saturday is College Football

Sunday is NFL

because Sunday is church day and wait.. hmm.... why aren't republicans pushing for voting booths in churches, would seem to boost their base turnout...


I actually do vote in a church. That's the voting location for my precinct. We used to vote at the high school but there was never enough room or parking space, so they moved the voting location. Much more room and parking space now.
 
2011-11-20 07:22:41 PM
vossiewulf: Not to mention the sky is not actually blue, it's kind of a light purple, but the brain maps it to cerulean blue because of metamer weirdness.

I almost didn't go with that comparison because I knew someone would do this to me :(

Kicking a man while he's down!

/*slinks away*
 
2011-11-20 07:25:58 PM
OgreMagi: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

I don't know about your state, but here in California your employer is required to give you paid time off to vote.


And that's why you're broke.
 
2011-11-20 07:26:33 PM
OgreMagi: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

I don't know about your state, but here in California your employer is required to give you paid time off to vote.


yeah, because those mail in ballots take so much out of my work day.

WTF is wrong with America?
 
2011-11-20 07:29:59 PM
FlashHarry: RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

which is why republicans are always against making it a national holiday or moving it to saturday.


Because there's no such thing as "Early Voting" or "Absentee Voting", right?

Not everything is some kinda weird vast right wing conspiracy, you know.
 
2011-11-20 07:32:22 PM
rohar: OgreMagi: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

I don't know about your state, but here in California your employer is required to give you paid time off to vote.

yeah, because those mail in ballots take so much out of my work day.

WTF is wrong with America?


The last election I used the mail in ballot. I'll probably do it for all elections in the future.
 
2011-11-20 07:34:30 PM
Of all the things that are bad about politics, etc in Texas, the early voting (new window) is awesome. Basically you get about two weeks before the election (including Saturdays) to walk into an early voting location in your city (doesn't have to be near your precinct, in many cases). You then provide proof of eligibility, they give you ballot for your precinct and there you go.

Now they just passed the stupid photo-id law (thankfully put on hold by the feds), but for the most part, it is still easy to vote before the election day. I look at "election day" as a two week event, and I usually hit it on a saturday afternoon during early voting.
 
2011-11-20 07:35:09 PM
headline from the future (11/2012) and the past (11/2010) for the US

"crushing election victory on Sunday as voters punished the outgoing Socialist government for the worst economic crisis in generations."
 
2011-11-20 07:35:16 PM
jjorsett: FlashHarry: RandomAxe: It's still on a Tuesday mostly because it makes it a hassle for a lot of poorer working people to vote.

which is why republicans are always against making it a national holiday or moving it to saturday.

If you have the merest smidgen of a fraction of a hair of a desire to vote, you can find a way. If it's too much trouble to drag your ass to the poll over an X-hour (typically 12) span on election day you can vote early at the registrar's office. You can get an absentee ballot way in advance and fill it out at your leisure. I've done both and have missed exactly one election in all the time I've been voting, due to an emergency last-minute trip. We make voting ridiculously easy in this country. If you're not taking advantage of it, then you're either stupid, lazy, or apathetic and we're better off without your probably ill-informed vote anyway.


I've been assured by the kind people on Fark that anything requiring any sort of effort or (God forbid) identification is inherently racist, and only intended to suppress the minority or underprivileged vote.
 
2011-11-20 07:37:59 PM
I still don't get the submitter's headline.
 
2011-11-20 07:38:06 PM
FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Election Day used to be a holiday.
 
2011-11-20 07:43:20 PM
Ontos: I've been assured by the kind people on Fark that anything requiring any sort of effort or (God forbid) identification is inherently racist, and only intended to suppress the minority or underprivileged vote.

If you make the ID hard to get or cost money, then it is intended to suppress votes. I don't have a problem making someone have an easy to get free ID like a SS card (acceptable form of required ID in my state), but I do have problems with forcing people to pay 20 bucks and spend an hour in the DMV every 4 years to get and keep an ID.
 
2011-11-20 07:45:44 PM
Ontos: I've been assured by the kind people on Fark that anything requiring any sort of effort or (God forbid) identification is inherently racist, and only intended to suppress the minority or underprivileged vote.

Well that's how it's been used in the past and is still being used now.

Are you trying to tell us the voting laws in the south were not used that way?

Are you saying closing down DMV's in poor mostly minority neighborhoods where voters must get voting cards will not impact those voters?

Instead you want us to trust politicians that they will not use their powers to restrict the votes of the other party. People have done in the past and every time I know they used that power to not count votes and most of the times it was minorities who were worse off.
 
2011-11-20 07:48:20 PM
Dwight_Yeast: FlashHarry: see, people - they hold elections on sundays, when working folks can vote. why the fark do we do it on a tuesday?

Election Day used to be a holiday.


Make it a holiday and every mattress/electronics/department/super-store will have massive "Election Day" sales and have to beef up their daily staff to handle it.
 
2011-11-20 07:49:53 PM
12349876: If you make the ID hard to get or cost money, then it is intended to suppress votes. I don't have a problem making someone have an easy to get free ID like a SS card (acceptable form of required ID in my state), but I do have problems with forcing people to pay 20 bucks and spend an hour in the DMV every 4 years to get and keep an ID.

And then the Republican governor starts closing down DMVs in poor minority neighborhoods.

But Ontos thinks even though politicians have lied again and again about these tactics we should trust these politicians again even though history has shown about every time they get this power the use it to for voter suppression.
 
2011-11-20 07:58:32 PM
Farxist:

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