I'm rooting for Arkansas beating LSU, but LSU staying ranked above Arkansas in the BCS standings. That way, LSU can go to the SEC Champ game and lose to Georgia. We'll be left with Arkansas playing Alabama for the National Championship and neither team even played in their conference title game.

If that doesn't kill the BCS, nothing will.

UH vs LSU. You heard it here first

I just love the pic on ESPN of the Oregon player looking surprised that he just crapped a football.

boolsheet?

HaywoodJablonski: UH vs LSU. You heard it here first

Seconded!!

Nabb1: With one week to go in the regular season, it appears we will have three teams not only from the same conference, but the same division occupying the top three BCS slots. If Arkansas beats LSU, then we're really going to have some chaos.

Time to eliminate the exemption allowing FBS teams to beat up on one FCS team each year and have that qualify as a bowl eligibility game.

SEC. Man up and play 9 games in conference.

Really I'm Black: boolsheet?



Not to be confused with Bolsheet.

VictoryCabal: The idea of a team that's not even competing for a conference championship playing for a national championship really rubs me the wrong way.

This. I can see a top rated team losing a conference championship and still getting in as number 2, if their schedule has been tough enough and they've essentially won their way in, but if they don't even make it to a conference championship, that's really screwed up.

Also, Bama has had a particularly weak schedule this year. Compare what Bama has done with what LSU has done. Look at the schedules. I'd be more inclined to elevate Stanford than Bama.

After the past two weeks of drama and intrigue, why would you want to get rid of the BCS?

I usullay watch but I am mostly indifferent in games between USC vs. Oregon and Baylor vs. OK, TCU vs. Boise, and Oregon vs. Stanford, but because my teams success required losses for other teams, I was as invested in these as my own teams.

I've always been for a playoff and I do agree it is the only real way to produce an actual champion. However, this removes the drama of the past two weekends. And, perhaps more importantly, these two past weekends have shown that any college team can beat another on their day, so what would a playoff really give us that the BCS doesn't? At least the BCS will give us two quality teams based on a seasons worth of activity.

/can't believe I am supporting the BCS
//going to shower

Kuta: SEC. Man up and play 9 games in conference.

Arkansas and Alabama will have played 5 ranked teams this season. LSU seven.

Oklahoma is the only other team in the top 15, I believe, to play at least 5.

Me and a fellow Hokie were joking Friday about what teams would have to lose for VT to end up in the national championship. Now the chance of that happening is 1/10 instead of 1/1000. We still suck and don't deserve it, but it could happen.

kronicfeld: Gonz: Let's see- a weekend that looked like a snooze-fest instead turned vital to the national championship picture, and reenforced the fact that the regular season matters in college football. Teams like Iowa State and Baylor had a little say in who will emerge as #1. USC had their bowl game against Oregon.

Yeah, let's scrap this. There's no fun whatsoever with this system.


Alabama, LSU and Arkansas are the three best teams, and there is zero chance that any of them will play each other for a championship since they all will have played each other in the "regular season." Instead, assuming LSU beats Arkansas, and there's no further shakeup in the rankings, LSU will play, who, VA Tech for the championship? In about 45 days? Yawn.

Funny guy.

There will be an LSU/BAMA rematch. Book it, done. And rightfully so, as they hands down the two best team in college football this year.

/hate LSU
//really, really hate Bama

Assuming a playoff system, yesterday's results would have had virtually zero ramifications for an 8-team playoff going forward.

Clemson is already locked into its conference title game. Yesterday's loss would have hardly meant anything. It'll likely play Virginia Tech for entry into the playoff.

Assuming both teams won, both teams lost, or Oklahoma won and Oklahoma State lost, the two teams were already locked into playing for a spot into their conference title game. I guess you could argue that Oklahoma State could have retained an at-large spot if it beat Iowa State and lost to Oklahoma and therefore they forfeited that spot by losing to Iowa State, but that second At Large spot may have gone to Houston anyway depending on how strongly people value undefeated seasons.

Oregon will still play in the PAC 12 title game, so it's loss would have nothing. It wasn't getting an At-Large invite with a loss to UCLA In the PAC 12 title game regardless of what transpired against USC. If they win out, they get into the playoff. Who cares about an arbitrary loss to USC late in the year.

Assuming chalk wins out, the first At Large would go to the SEC runner up. The second At Large would be a fight between inferior teams gagging their seasons away and then being rewarded by having a shot at the title.....or Houston.

Also under the LSU losing in the SEC Championship Game doomsday scenario, Alabama and Arkansas most likely won't be able to play each other. I'm not 100% sure of the exact ruling, but one of the BCS spots would be guaranteed for Georgia.

There was very little support for Florida back when the Gators won their first National Championship. This was still during the USC golden years, and before the SEC had gone supernova. The Gators had a loss to Auburn, didn't really play all that challenging a schedule, and featured a middling offense with Chris Leak not really an option QB and Tim Tebow only a bit-playing true Freshman. They needed a lot of luck to get by teams like South Carolina with blocked field goals and extra points.

My point being, don't discount Virginia Tech entirely. They're getting exactly zero interest from the casual fan and they haven't faced an elite schedule (or dominated their mediocre one), but there are striking similarities between the 2006 Gators and this year's Hokies. Just something to keep in the back of your head.

As a Hokies fan theres no way in hell we deserve to be in the National championship game even if we manage to beat UVA and Clemson (UVA we can probably beat, but Clemson will depend on if whatshisface comes back from injury). We look pretty shaky right now and have 3 of our starting defenders out for the season, including a player who still has the most tackles on the team even though he hasn't played in 3 weeks. We have 3rd stringers starting in some positions, its pretty rough. Its going to end up being 2 SEC teams in the NC and that's fine, more reason to toss the BCS out.

I dislike the BCS, but what exactly did it do to ruin subby's childhood? OU and OSU losing was not a part of their evil plan. This kind of shiat happens in football, be in Pee Wee, High School, College or the NFL. If you can't learn to accept this, take up stamp collecting.

T-Boy: I'd be more inclined to elevate Stanford than Bama.

HaywoodJablonski: UH vs LSU. You heard it here first

Lolno. Stanford would have played less ranked teams to either the same or worse record, assuming Bama wins next game. Houston is a fun story, but just in terms of money, Houston is like the 6th or 7th most popular school in Texas. Also, no top 25 wins.
You'll get your LSU-Bama rematch, and you'll like it mister!

bulldg4life: I'm rooting for Arkansas beating LSU, but LSU staying ranked above Arkansas in the BCS standings. That way, LSU can go to the SEC Champ game and lose to Georgia. We'll be left with Arkansas playing Alabama for the National Championship and neither team even played in their conference title game.

If that doesn't kill the BCS, nothing will.

Not quite. There is still the limit of 2 teams per conference in BCS Bowls. If Georgia wins the SECCG and goes to the Sugar Bowl, they would knock one of Arkansas/Bama (Arkansas, duh) from the BCS Title Game.

Bama and Arkansas could be #1 and #2, but the Championship would be Bama/Ok State, or whatever team is next on the list. Which gets even funnier if Team Whatever were to beat Bama.

kronicfeld: bulldg4life: We'll be left with Arkansas playing Alabama for the National Championship

Not enough money in a single-conference championship game. That's why I said VT above.

What's money got to do with it?

SEC West: Serious football.

/no others need apply

Stimied in a Rut: As a Hokies fan theres no way in hell we deserve to be in the National championship game even if we manage to beat UVA and Clemson (UVA we can probably beat, but Clemson will depend on if whatshisface comes back from injury). We look pretty shaky right now and have 3 of our starting defenders out for the season, including a player who still has the most tackles on the team even though he hasn't played in 3 weeks. We have 3rd stringers starting in some positions, its pretty rough. Its going to end up being 2 SEC teams in the NC and that's fine, more reason to toss the BCS out.

Sammy Watkins. And no, Clemson has a pretty horrid defense. They're giving up over 30 points a game in the past 4, and still have to play USC(east) and VT. Hell, Maryland almost beat them in a shootout. If the Terps could have run the ball in the second half, or managed to NOT punt to Watkins, Clemson would have at least 3 losses now.

Marcus Aurelius: excedrin: After the past two weeks of drama and intrigue, why would you want to get rid of the BCS?

I usullay watch but I am mostly indifferent in games between USC vs. Oregon and Baylor vs. OK, TCU vs. Boise, and Oregon vs. Stanford, but because my teams success required losses for other teams, I was as invested in these as my own teams.

I've always been for a playoff and I do agree it is the only real way to produce an actual champion. However, this removes the drama of the past two weekends. And, perhaps more importantly, these two past weekends have shown that any college team can beat another on their day, so what would a playoff really give us that the BCS doesn't? At least the BCS will give us two quality teams based on a seasons worth of activity.

/can't believe I am supporting the BCS
//going to shower

WTF is wrong with you?

I think I am drunk on the fact that that everyone is farking up and Alabama is going to get another shot at LSU.

Marcus Aurelius: All we have to do is collectively stop watching the bowl games on TV, and we'll get a playoff system pretty quick.

This.

If LSU beats Arkansas and Georgia, the season is over. Hand them the damned trophy and cancel the BCS title game.

PowerSlacker: Marcus Aurelius: All we have to do is collectively stop watching the bowl games on TV, and we'll get a playoff system pretty quick.

This.

If LSU beats Arkansas and Georgia, the season is over. Hand them the damned trophy and cancel the BCS title game.

I actually have 0 problem with this.

PowerSlacker: Marcus Aurelius: All we have to do is collectively stop watching the bowl games on TV, and we'll get a playoff system pretty quick.

This.

If LSU beats Arkansas and Georgia, the season is over. Hand them the damned trophy and cancel the BCS title game.

Because if this weekend has taught us anything, it's that games always go according to prediction.

Fark I-A.

excedrin: After the past two weeks of drama and intrigue, why would you want to get rid of the BCS?

I usullay watch but I am mostly indifferent in games between USC vs. Oregon and Baylor vs. OK, TCU vs. Boise, and Oregon vs. Stanford, but because my teams success required losses for other teams, I was as invested in these as my own teams.

I've always been for a playoff and I do agree it is the only real way to produce an actual champion. However, this removes the drama of the past two weekends. And, perhaps more importantly, these two past weekends have shown that any college team can beat another on their day, so what would a playoff really give us that the BCS doesn't? At least the BCS will give us two quality teams based on a seasons worth of activity.

/can't believe I am supporting the BCS
//going to shower

I see what you're saying, but I've never bought the argument that losing the BCS would ruin CFB's regular season. Look what the BCS has done to out-of-conference scheduling: almost every major team plays at least one FCS team, a couple non-big six also-rans and maybe one above average FBS foe.

Under a playoff, you'd have 120 teams competing for 16 playoff spots. Let's assume the big six conference champs and 10 at-large teams would make it. Winning your conference is still the only guaranteed way to get in. A committee (similar to the one that picks the at-large bids in college basketball) would look at body of work in selecting the 10 at-large teams. Wins would be even more valuable since there would be only 16 spots in the postseason, unlike 70 in the laughable bowl system. Teams may even be more apt to schedule tough opponents to differentiate their body of work from the competition. Right now, teams just want to get through the regular season unscathed and take as few chances as possible in scheduling.

Basically, I don't see how a playoff would adversely impact the drama of the regular season, and I believe it would probably make it even more exciting because the stakes would be even higher.

Really, unless you play in the BCS Championship or the Rose Bowl, why does anyone care about the 33 other bowl games? Not to mention all the storylines we lose under a bowl system. Instead of the drama of a playoff for four weeks, we have to sit through the same recycled storylines about one championship game. The other 34 bowls are completely irrelevant, and I guarantee not even half of them will feature compelling match-ups.

Aar1012: Nabb1: they'd have two or three losses with an SEC schedule right now

An SEC schedule consisting of what? A Mac team that is 5-6 right now, a 4-7 Sun Belt team, a Florida team that is 6-5 (3-5 in the SEC), Vanderbilt (5-6, 2-6 SEC), Miss State (5-6, 1-6 SEC), Tennessee (5-6, 1-6 SEC), Ole Miss (2-9, 0-7 SEC), or an FCS team as in Alabama's case? At least Alabama played Penn State.

How about Arkansas' schedule? Sure you played South Carolina, a then ranked Texas A&M (6-5, 4-4 Big XII currently), and Auburn (7-4, 4-3 SEC). But you also played a 1-10 Mountain West team (New Mexico), a 3-7 Sun Belt team (Troy), and a 2-9 FCS team (Missouri State). Don't forget the teams of SEC teams of Vanderbilt (5-6, 2-6 SEC), Miss State (5-6, 1-6 SEC), Tennessee (5-6, 1-6 SEC), Ole Miss (2-9, 0-7 SEC)

Well there is LSU - who had a strong schedule with Oregon and West Virginia and Auburn (7-4, 4-3 SEC) . You also had Florida (6-5, 3-5 SEC), Kentucky (4-7, 1-6 SEC), Miss State (5-6, 1-6 SEC), Tennessee (5-6, 1-6 SEC), and Ole Miss (2-9, 0-7 SEC). There was also 6-5 Sun Belt team (Western Kentucky) and a 5-6 FCS School (Northwestern State (3-4 Southland))

Those are a hell of a lot better than Virginia Tech who played NO AQ schools out of conference. Oklahoma State played a 3-8 Arizona and two non-aq's schools out of conference. Stanford has a good Notre Dame team next week, but also had 3-8 Duke and a non-aq for out of conference.

They ALL play crappy schools out of conference.

velvet_fog: excedrin: After the past two weeks of drama and intrigue, why would you want to get rid of the BCS?

I usullay watch but I am mostly indifferent in games between USC vs. Oregon and Baylor vs. OK, TCU vs. Boise, and Oregon vs. Stanford, but because my teams success required losses for other teams, I was as invested in these as my own teams.

I've always been for a playoff and I do agree it is the only real way to produce an actual champion. However, this removes the drama of the past two weekends. And, perhaps more importantly, these two past weekends have shown that any college team can beat another on their day, so what would a playoff really give us that the BCS doesn't? At least the BCS will give us two quality teams based on a seasons worth of activity.

/can't believe I am supporting the BCS
//going to shower

I see what you're saying, but I've never bought the argument that losing the BCS would ruin CFB's regular season. Look what the BCS has done to out-of-conference scheduling: almost every major team plays at least one FCS team, a couple non-big six also-rans and maybe one above average FBS foe.

Under a playoff, you'd have 120 teams competing for 16 playoff spots. Let's assume the big six conference champs and 10 at-large teams would make it. Winning your conference is still the only guaranteed way to get in. A committee (similar to the one that picks the at-large bids in college basketball) would look at body of work in selecting the 10 at-large teams. Wins would be even more valuable since there would be only 16 spots in the postseason, unlike 70 in the laughable bowl system. Teams may even be more apt to schedule tough opponents to differentiate their body of work from the competition. Right now, teams just want to get through the regular season unscathed and take as few chances as possible in scheduling.

Basically, I don't see how a playoff would adversely impact the drama of the regular season, and I believe it would probably make it even more exciting because the stakes would be even higher.

Really, unless you play in the BCS Championship or the Rose Bowl, why does anyone care about the 33 other bowl games? Not to mention all the storylines we lose under a bowl system. Instead of the drama of a playoff for four weeks, we have to sit through the same recycled storylines about one championship game. The other 34 bowls are completely irrelevant, and I guarantee not even half of them will feature compelling match-ups.

That is what we all really want. I don't think it will ever happen though, because as irrelevant as those other 34 bowls are each set of fans watches their team and keeps the audience up. I know I watched 7 or 8 bowls last year simply to just watch some football.

I do like the idea of conference champions and 16 spots based on a body of work.

When major schools start getting routinely dicked over, you'll start to see changes. That could happen this year if one or more SEC schools get farked.

People, get over it. It isn't like Alabama lost to Baylor or Iowa State, they lost to the best team in the nation. Folks are just trying to get their subpar team in the national title game. If you want to play in it, just win your games.