We shall see. From the pessimistic side it reads like the military junta trying to keep power. From the optomistic side it reads more like the military setting themselves up similiar to the Turkish military, where if the government goes too crazy and Islamist the military slaps themselves upside the head.

I recently wrote a thing on why military governments are rubbish...

There is a big problem with military governments, and it is this:

FACT: The military are only really any good at one thing, and that is killing people to DEATH. At everything else, not so good. They can't even do their own shopping without spending £100million on a helicopter, or selling their own kids for a box of nails.

And you know exactly what's going to happen. They'll turn up on the first day of the nation's brave new dawn with "Military Communique No.1: Restoring Order and Fighting Crime on our streets", and there will be much rejoicing and smugly satisfied former colonels.

However, history shows us that military governments get rather used to the idea of power, and no matter how temporary they say they are, forty years down the line "Military Communique No. 37,957 On the re-education and re-assignment of counter-revolutionary street poets and revised penalties for breaking haircut regulations" is met with the kind of fixed-grin jubilation you only ever see on North Korean television broadcasts.

And that is why military governments are crap.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

People may recognize it, but if they try to DO anything about it, they'll be slaughtered. That's why it keeps happening.

coming to America soon. those #ows types need to obey the police state.

Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

Another somewhat disturbing aspect to the Egyptian military is how deeply they're involved in corporate profit making. There are lots and lots of military-operated businesses like in manufacturing that are a big part of the Egyptian economy, with higher ranking officers as the executives and boards of these companies. There was concern during the beginning of this crisis that this would all come crashing down, but it had looked like the people were willing to leave the military this aspect so long as it continued to play nice. Unfortunately it has shown that it doesn't want to play nice, and it looks like it's going to hurt Egypt even worse as they'll now have to reorganize all of this to take it away from the military as they take control of government from them as well...

And after all of the hard work of George W. Bush to inspire the Arab Spring with his glorious liberation of Iraq, Fartbama goes and screws it up.

Better than the Muslim Brotherhood, or Muslim Sisterhood for that matter.

There are 10s of thousands in the streets, hundreds being injured, Amnesty International believes the new military government has imprisoned over 8000...so where's the US reporters that were there reporting on Mubarak and Tahrir Square and the Arab Spring? Oh that's right we support the military in Egypt and so does Israel...that's what the new democracy looks like citizens.

Porous Horace: Better than the Muslim Brotherhood, or Muslim Sisterhood for that matter.

This is true. I think the people of Egypt and the international community would rather have a secular military ruler than an extreme fundamentalist ruler

Sigh. Hopefully if this turns into an order to roll tanks on the crowd the tank commanders will refuse again.

Something is rotten with the upper echelons over there.

The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has been abated!

It's a goddamn shame, but not surprising. Hopefully the Egyptian people get the democracy they protested for, no matter what that might be. It's their choice, and having power-hungry authoritarians try and stifle that is a total buzzkill. Good to see the overlords will have a hard time of it.

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The powers you give me I will lay down when this crisis has been abated!


Mmmm, yes, tell me the one about Darth Plagueis, the wise.

I leave for Egypt next week....

Satyagraha: There are 10s of thousands in the streets, hundreds being injured, Amnesty International believes the new military government has imprisoned over 8000...so where's the US reporters that were there reporting on Mubarak and Tahrir Square and the Arab Spring? Oh that's right we support the military in Egypt and so does Israel...that's what the new democracy looks like citizens.
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Where do all those people go when they have to take a piss/shiat? A million people in that crowd, someone in the middle of that mess has got to need to take a leak, RIGHT FARKING NOW.

whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...



Submit, citizen!

StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

This is what happens when you believe that government produces prosperity.

whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.



LOLWUT?

MemeSlave: StoneColdAtheist: Submit, citizen!

This is what happens when you believe that government produces prosperityis not bought and paid for by wealthy special interests.

FTFY.

Shame on you...now quit being a shill for the 1% and their jack-booted thugs.

/didn't spend 30 years of my life defending the constitution to have it twisted into this sick parody

Adolf Oliver Nipples: StoneColdAtheist: We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here.

It's nothing short of astonishing, we've found something that the extreme left and extreme right agree on wholeheartedly.

Call me when Petraeus and McChrystal fire into an OWS gathering, like these guys did:

"What the hell did I put in my pockets?"

The guy that came up with that short jacket that didn't look stupid with jodhpurs was there too.

Tatsuma: This is pretty depressing to see that the Arab Spring at this point is now just changing their dictators for either religious extremists who will become dictators (Tunisia) or apparently military dictators (Egypt)


I seem to recall that, during the Egyptian uprising earlier this year, Netanyahu didn't seem terribly concerned - provided that the military remained in power.

Looks like he got his wish - so far.

I'm going to dare to suggest that our right wing brethren may just possibly have this one right:

The fairly moderate and secular Egyptian Army believes that Fundamentalist Muslims will sieze power either legitimately or otherwise if the military relinquishes it.

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"What the hell did I put in my pockets?"

"In a stunning display of military discipline, the general refused to use the latrine until the battle was won."

epoc_tnac:
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"What the hell did I put in my pockets?"

If that's MacArthur, it's probably his ego.

MFAWG: whither_apophis: "of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.



LOLWUT?

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Hence the word "should". Unfortunately, the police in this country have become so corrupt that what we've seen lately only makes sense when viewed as a real-world example of the Stanford prison experiment and/or the Milgram experiment. I don't know if the military has reached that point, though.

whither_apophis: MFAWG: whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.



LOLWUT?

sad you don't see a difference between a child going to her legal and proper school and the forth coming disapparances of human right activists in Egypt.


I think it's important to see the parallels as well.

And the best part? We've armed them to the teeth. Freaking M1 Abrams tanks assembled in and used by the Egyptian military. It's like giving a retarded 13 year-old a with a massive inferiority complex a .44 Magnum and a bulletproof vest.

But don't worry.....

At least we're doing the same for the Iraqi military.

MFAWG: whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.



LOLWUT?

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In that second picture, the armed guys are actually protecting the black college students.

mcreadyblue: MFAWG: whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.



LOLWUT?

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In that second picture, the armed guys are actually protecting the black college students.

In the first one, they appear to be trampling someones right to peacably assemble.

Do I have that wrong?

It sounds like they are trying to model themselves after Turkey, which wouldn't be the worst model to have.

Tatsuma: GaryPDX: It wasn't rocket surgery to see it coming. It's been going on for centuries.

Doesn't make it any less tragic, or sad that all those lives were lost for more of the same

I thought you turned in your passport and moved the promised land.

It's also fun to see you being ignored even when you post reasonable comments.


/Anyway I wish the Egyptian citizens the best. I DO think they have a shot at making the country work!

GaryPDX: MemeSlave: This is what happens when you believe that government produces prosperity.

Yep.

Somalia's waiting for you.

Should the Egyptians decide to rise up against their military government would we feel obligated to intervene?


We've set the precedent in Libya.

StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

watson.t.hamster: Should the Egyptians decide to rise up against their military government would we feel obligated to intervene?


We've set the precedent in Libya.


Things get more complicated with Egypt, as they happen to share highly sensitive borders both with one of our "allies" and a population that this "ally" views as a major irritation.

Complicated indeed,

MFAWG: In the first one, they appear to be trampling someones right to peacably assemble.

Do I have that wrong?

You can tell because in the 2nd picture they have their rifles shouldered and are merely escorting students to classes at Ole Miss.

In the first picture they have their rifles pointed at the disloyal Americans ready to dispense with all pleasantries...

PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

That is pepper spray.

PsiChick
...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Their official story is that they felt threatened.

Dirty hippies! They should get jobs!

RanDomino: PsiChick
...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Their official story is that they felt threatened.

The real story is that UC cops and administrators feel no remorse for trampling the rights of anyone they consider to be "dirty hippies".

Oh, and...

MFAWG: In the first one, they appear to be trampling someones right to peacably assemble.

Do I have that wrong?

That crowd is peaceful in the same way that

is peaceful.

Amos Quito: watson.t.hamster: Should the Egyptians decide to rise up against their military government would we feel obligated to intervene?


We've set the precedent in Libya.


Things get more complicated with Egypt, as they happen to share highly sensitive borders both with one of our "allies" and a population that this "ally" views as a major irritation.

Complicated indeed,

The whole region is complicated and has been since we started smashing rocks in to sharper rocks.

Maybe we should avoid that area as much as possible.

PsiChick: ...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Because there isn't a goddamned thing anyone can do about it.
Source video

Its a good thing we backed THAT horse!

Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.

PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Now wait just a doggone minute! If you were truly, as it says in your profile..."psychic", you'd already know that the hell the cop was doing.

StoneColdAtheist: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Now wait just a doggone minute! If you were truly, as it says in your profile..."psychic", you'd already know that the hell the cop was doing.

I believe I also mentioned an dara shealladh. Go Google it.

XMark: Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss.


Indeed.

Or is it same boss, different front men?

PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Now wait just a doggone minute! If you were truly, as it says in your profile..."psychic", you'd already know that the hell the cop was doing.

I believe I also mentioned an dara shealladh. Go Google it.

Next time you're in a trance be sure to have your humor detector calibrated. ;)

BigNumber12: MFAWG: I'm going to dare to suggest that our right wing brethren may just possibly have this one right:

That's a brave, crazy thing to say here on Fark.

Quiet, I'm enjoying the cognitive dissonance in this thread.

StoneColdAtheist: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

Now wait just a doggone minute! If you were truly, as it says in your profile..."psychic", you'd already know that the hell the cop was doing.

I believe I also mentioned an dara shealladh. Go Google it.

Next time you're in a trance be sure to have your humor detector calibrated. ;)

Sorry about that, I've had two people try to start cross-thread fights with me already...

/On the other hand, got it now. :p

whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.

/so we militarized our police forces instead


You are ignorant of US Law, US History, the US Constitution and the oath of enlistment for the US military. The military is not limited to foreign policy.

The key to all this is the military stil remains subordinate to civil authority.


I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.

In History you have incidents like the Whiskey rebellion, Shay's Rebellion, Harper's Ferry and even the Civil War and the 1992 LA Riots. All incidents were far beyond the ability of conventional law enforcement to deal with.

In the US Constitution


Article 1 Section 8 US Constitution

The Congress shall have power..

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

In law

Posse Comitatus Act, 1878, U.S. federal law that makes it a crime to use the military as a domestic police force in the United States under most circumstances. The law was designed to end the use of federal troops to supervise elections in the post-Civil War South. The posse comitatus (from which the term posse derives) is the power or force of the county, and refers to citizens above the age of 15, who may be summoned by a sheriff to enforce the law. The act specifically prohibited the use of the U.S. army as a posse comitatus; the prohibition was later extended by legislation to the air force and by government directive to the marine corps and navy. The restriction does not apply to the coast guard during peacetime or the national guard when it is under state authority. There are legal exceptions to the law, particularly in aspects of drug law enforcement, in emergency situations, and in cases of rebellion.


By the act of Congress of the 28th of February, 1795, 1 Story's L. U. S. 389, it is provided: Sec. 1. That whenever the United States shall be invaded, or be in imminent danger of invasion, from any foreign nation or Indian tribe, it shall be lawful for the president of the United States to call forth such number, of the militia of the state, or states, most convenient to the place of danger, or scene of action, as he may judge necessary to repel such invasion, and to issue his orders, for that purpose, to such officer or officers of the militia as be shall think proper. And in case of an insurrection in any state, against the government thereof, it shall be lawful for the president of the United States, on application of the legislature of such state, or of the executive, (when the legislature cannot be convened,) to call forth such number of the militia of any other state or states, as may be applied for, as he may judge sufficient to suppress such insurrection.
4.-2 That, whenever the laws of the United States shall be opposed, or the execution thereof obstructed, in any state, by combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the powers vested in the marshals by this act, it shall be lawful for the president of the United States to call forth the militia of such state, or of any other state or states, as may be necessary to suppress such combinations, and to cause the laws to be duly executed; and the use of militia so to be called forth may be continued, if necessary, until the expiration of thirty days after the commencement of the then next session of congress.
5.-3. That whenever it may be necessary, in the judgment of the president, to use the military force hereby directed to be called forth, the president shall forthwith, by proclamation, command such insurgents to disperse, and retire peaceably to their respective abodes, within a limited time.

PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: Next time you're in a trance be sure to have your humor detector calibrated. ;)

Sorry about that, I've had two people try to start cross-thread fights with me already...

/On the other hand, got it now. :p

LOL...not to worry! ;^)

hasty ambush: Posse Comitatus

That just sounds all sorts of dirty...

Yep. Those jack-booted thugs look pretty bad. Take them away, there's a chance you'd be facing another Islamic theocracy. In Egypt. You'd pray for the army, then.

mcreadyblue: hasty ambush: Posse Comitatus

That just sounds all sorts of dirty...


Is that the one where you urinate in your partner's face as she reaches orgasm?

swahnhennessy: It's a goddamn shame, but not surprising. Hopefully the Egyptian people get the democracy they protested for, no matter what that might be. It's their choice, and having power-hungry authoritarians try and stifle that is a total buzzkill. Good to see the overlords will have a hard time of it.

Here's yer "buzzkill":

"I am well aware that I am unworthy of uttering opinions on political matters, but perhaps I might be forgiven for doing so by adding that I have doubts about democracy, that curious abuse of statistics."

- Jorge Luis Borges

mcreadyblue: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

That is pepper spray.

Deoderant, hippy strength.

Nick Nostril:
Where do all those people go when they have to take a piss/shiat? A million people in that crowd, someone in the middle of that mess has got to need to take a leak, RIGHT FARKING NOW.

I used to wonder that, myself, when I looked at those Nurenburg rallies. Good heavens, you could get SHOT of you left formation to take a leak. I assume some of them peed their pants. Or wore something equivalent to adult diapers.

Here are the rules:
1. Don't drink a second cup of coffee before heading out the door to the rally.
2. Bring along an empty bottle.
3. Don't go to the demonstation if you are too old to have control over holding your dumps for a while.

StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead (Davis pepper spray pic)

The police used it in "self defense." Yeah, that's it.
(Admistering a little punishment themselves, in case the judge lets the punks off too lightly. Let this be a warning, you damned hippies.)

Hey, it's either that, or start wailing on them with the nightsticks and the tasers.

KarmicDisaster: The only one that I can think of that gave up power once they had it was George Washington. He could have been King of the USA. The guy may have been boring, but he is my personal hero for that one action.

Cincinnatus. But it goes to show they are few and far between.

whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.

Against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. You don't get to pick and choose.

/hoorah

IRT Military taking over in Egypt:

That's unpossible!

StoneColdAtheist: /didn't spend 30 years of my life defending the constitution to have it twisted into this sick parody

LOL for thinking this stands out in American history. It's been much worse and it's gonna get much worse.

PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

That's what pepper spray and pepper spray substitutes look like. Even the non peppered animal control equivalents are orange.

BloodySaxon: PsiChick: StoneColdAtheist: whither_apophis: so we militarized our police forces instead

^^^THIS^^^

Egypt is only slightly ahead of us. We're well on our way to establishing a jack-booted thuggery here. Just look at UC Davis...

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Submit, citizen!

...Why the hell is a cop spraying paint into the eyes of what looks like teenagers? Or trying to?

That's what pepper spray and pepper spray substitutes look like. Even the non peppered animal control equivalents are orange.

...Yeah, I just found out by watching the vid. And threw up a bit.

whither_apophis: Gleeman: whither_apophis: Adolf Oliver Nipples: How many times does this have to happen before people recognize that when the military takes over it is never a benefit? Let's see... Pinochet, Tito, Qaddafi, Egypt (the first time under Nasser/Sadat/Mubarak, this is round two), Greece 1967-1974, etc... when things eventually shake themselves out it's after thousands are dead, and the mistrust of the military never goes away because if they did it once they can do it again.

Hell, I'm IN the military and if anything like that happened here in the US I'd be on the ramparts with everybody else. The military has no business in government affairs. They are the executors of policy, not creators of it.

"of foreign policy" Any soldier should disobey an order to move against his fellow citizens.

Against ALL enemies, foreign and domestic. You don't get to pick and choose.

/hoorah

IRT Military taking over in Egypt:

That's unpossible!

Protesters are not enemies.

You said "move against his fellow citizens", not protesters. Make up your mind.