If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.

A static charge from an airport scanner could be 100 volts or more

Ummm...static charges are in the tens of thousands of volts. And, I don't know how it could be discharged just through your Kindle. It's one big belt, with grounded people touching it all the time. My guess is coincidence, the person in the article just happened to have their Kindle die when they turned it on after going through security.

If that happened on any regular basis - more than just a kindle would be toast and more people would biatch about it. So I'm calling bullshiat.

THIS is the best holiday horror story the media could fabricate and/or eggagerate this year?

*exaggerate

Wow sorry

A book? What the hell am I going to store it on when I'm not reading?

-Sent with extra smug from my iPad.

Err. My Kindle stays in its cover and in my carryon bag when I go through security.

/CSB: The first time I did that, the TSA was convinced that my kindle was a DVD player and kept asking me to take out it out, which I insisted didn't exist.

irgunner: THIS is the best holiday horror story the media could fabricate and/or eggagerate this year?

People are used to being gate raped this year.

Nook color biatches...

Tsar_Bomba1: Nook color biatches...


We prefer our battery to last at least the duration of the flight.

Loki-L: If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.

Luckily all the extra eyes needed to read more than one book at a time are small and lightweight.

Click Click D'oh: Tsar_Bomba1: Nook color biatches...


We prefer our battery to last at least the duration of the flight.

My Nook Color lasts around 25+ hours of actual usage. It worked just fine on flights all the way to India... so I'm left to wonder where you go that flight is longer than that.

Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.

So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

Tsar_Bomba1: Nook color biatches...
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If I wanted to read on a LCD I'd just use an ipad or laptop. E-ink is awesome and the only reason to buy a kindle or nook.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

Kindles start $79. On a week vacation I might read 4-5 books. If i were to bring Dance with Dragons, Ready Player One and 11/22/63 in print form it would add about 10 lbs to my carry on vs 6 oz with a kindle.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

I guess you pay for music and movies too

OnlyM3: I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

I don't read books like I listen to music. I love having all my music so I can pick something for my mood. I read books in a linear fashion and rarely read them again. With novels, I get rid of them soon after reading.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

In defense of the Kindle, the books are generally cheaper, and they're rolling out a system with libraries so then they will be free. I got a Kindle for Christmas last year, and I've read at least twice as many books this year than those previous (and I read a lot), and in the various moves I've had over the years, this last one was by far the easiest because I only had one giant book case and one giant box of books to move and not the massive library I had before. The massive library now exists in one device.

Paperbacks and used books and bargain bin books are still cheaper than e-reader books. I'll switch when this is no longer the case.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

The 200+ device is also a (mostly) fully functional tablet, and with an ereader you can also get access to thousands of free books and you can take all of them anywhere at once. The price points are usually only the same because publishing companies are old media dickweasels and are afraid to let bookstores die. Fortunately, bookstores are dying anyway.

12349876: Paperbacks and used books and bargain bin books are still cheaper than e-reader books. I'll switch when this is no longer the case.

1. Download PDF of book. (for free. Which is 100000% cheaper than you paid for the bargain bin book)

2. Convert with MobiPocket Creator

3. Add to Kindle via USB.

Now switch like you said you would, or be labeled a liar.

kisseswookies: and they're rolling out a system with libraries so then they will be free.

Used books? They've already been read. Get these guys some new books. Charge it to me, too. Hey, folks, it's on me! Shakespeare for everyone, OK?

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: A static charge from an airport scanner could be 100 volts or more

Ummm...static charges are in the tens of thousands of volts. And, I don't know how it could be discharged just through your Kindle. It's one big belt, with grounded people touching it all the time. My guess is coincidence, the person in the article just happened to have their Kindle die when they turned it on after going through security.

Ummmm, they can be of any voltage.

enry: Err. My Kindle stays in its cover and in my carryon bag when I go through security.

/CSB: The first time I did that, the TSA was convinced that my kindle was a DVD player and kept asking me to take out it out, which I insisted didn't exist.

I don't remember if it was St. Louis or Salt Lake, but the last time I flew, they were making people take e-Readers out of their bags as if it was a laptop.

growing up in the age of ecology and a general concensus that we had to be kind to the planet if we were to have any future at all

i swear to god
i never would have believed you if you'd told me
people would be reading electric books
and paying for water even when they didn't have to .

FTFA: Even though it may not happen, and even though Amazon denies it can happen, they will replace your Kindle if it's damaged going through an x-ray machine.

Hey, subby? I really don't think you bothered to read the entire "article." This is nothing more than a big: "So?"

Who cares if this could even, maybe, possibly, potentially happen? Amazon will replace it even though they call shenanigans.

larrimo:
Now switch like you said you would, or be labeled a liar.

I can buy 30-40 books for what the cheapest e-ink devices cost.

I don't think there are 30-40 books out there that are interesting enough to read.

Sad to think, really. But the vast majority of stuff out there is crap. I used to go to the used bookstores all the time, but it got to the point where I realized I was reading a given book just to grind through it and say I did it, and if it's not a good read then why bother?

way south: A book? What the hell am I going to store it on when I'm not reading?



/hot and oblig

FYI, if you're taking your e-ink reader on a plane over the holidays, there's a chance that static from the x-ray machines could permanently destroy the display. Or you could bring a real book

Naa...that wouldn't work. It will only remove the DRM from the e-book. (sarcasm off). I hate those things. This is another reason why I prefer paper originals.

/Nice headline, subby.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

THIS

Mister Peejay: larrimo:
Now switch like you said you would, or be labeled a liar.

I can buy 30-40 books for what the cheapest e-ink devices cost.

I don't think there are 30-40 books out there that are interesting enough to read.

Sad to think, really. But the vast majority of stuff out there is crap. I used to go to the used bookstores all the time, but it got to the point where I realized I was reading a given book just to grind through it and say I did it, and if it's not a good read then why bother?

If you can't find 30-40 books you want to read you're not the ereader's market. If you don't like to read complaining ereaders are dumb isn't helpful criticism.

Barakku: OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

The 200+ device is also a (mostly) fully functional tablet, and with an ereader you can also get access to thousands of free books and you can take all of them anywhere at once. The price points are usually only the same because publishing companies are old media dickweasels and are afraid to let bookstores die. Fortunately, bookstores are dying anyway.

Yes, Barakku, but let's make sure e-publishers follow copyright laws for your two hundred dollar kindle.

/I giggled at those kindle kiddies when that happened
//Ohh yeah...let's let publishers keep track of my reading habits also.

OnlyM3: I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

Why are you trying to advertise that you're dumb?

This one is pretty much a no-brainer: convenience. Not everyone may want/need it, but it isn't exactly hard to see how many would, given how dramatic the weight/size difference is.

larrimo: 12349876: Paperbacks and used books and bargain bin books are still cheaper than e-reader books. I'll switch when this is no longer the case.

1. Download PDF of book. (for free. Which is 100000% cheaper than you paid for the bargain bin book)

Download ePub version of book.

2. Convert with MobiPocket Creator

If not available, convert what you get with calibre.

3. Add to Kindle via USB.

Add to iOS iBooks via USB.

Bonus: the iPhone cost me $75, and the iPad 2 was free.
More Bonus: if you switch between reading on the iPad in bed and on the iPhone on the crapper, iBooks will sync your place in the book between devices.

Cyrusv10: Yes, Barakku, but let's make sure e-publishers follow copyright laws for your two hundred dollar kindle.

$75. The reader kindle is super cheap now.

Also library dot nu.

OnlyM3:

I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

I saved over $1000 on my book budget in my first year with a kindle.

Also, if you are that worried, ask for a handcheck.

/Even in the post 9/11 high security world I've never been refused a hand check of certain items.

I love my Kindle. I started out with a Nook when I was on tour, because I refused to buy books and have to get rid of them. I like to keep my books when I'm done, and mailing them home or lugging them around for months was not gonna happen, and reading on an iPhone was not pleasant. So I basically stopped reading entirely until I got the Nook. After that I would read all the time in my bunk.

Just recently upgraded to the new basic Kindle cause I wanted the longer battery life, smaller size and lighter weight. Also I have an Amazon credit card, so I get more points on my purchases, and have been waiting for a keyboardless Kindle to come out so I could switch over.

I wouldn't call it pocketable as some people do (at least my pockets aren't that big), but it can fit pretty much anywhere else, and it's so light that my hands never get tired during long reading sessions.

There are things I miss about real books, but I've spent so much time living out of a suitcase that owning stuff just seems wasteful sometimes, and knowing how much room my old books take up in my apartment, it's nice to reduce that to 1's and 0's in the future.

zez: OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?


I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

I guess you pay for music and movies too

Heh. And even if you want to use the legal way, your local library might have ebooks available as well. Mine does. I can take them out for 3 weeks at a time before they self destruct. That's a HUGE reason I'm getting an e-ink based reader. Also, I like the look/feel of e-ink/paper.

I switched over 2 years ago and haven't read a physical book since. We have over 11,000 e books in our library which cost us a grand total of..$0.00. Zero,zip, zilch, nada. We use Calibre for the software which is free as well. Never even installed the factory software for any of our e readers so that b.s. about them "taking your ebooks" is just that. You do have to connect to your pc to transfer books, but mine holds at least a thousand, so again, not really an issue. Never paid more than $129 for a reader either and that was when they were considerably more expensive than they are now. A new hardback will run you $30, so farking $79 for unlimited free books isn't exactly a financial burden.

OnlyM3: Loki-L
If I bring all the books on my Kindle, I would really need to bring some extra luggage.
So is your flight really that long, or do you just own that few books?

I don't get paying 200+ for a device that gives you the privilege of buying books, often at the same price point or higher than the physical version.

Project Gutenberg is your friend. (Also a certain amount of ethical jujutsu's to convince yourself that it is not really stealing if you already paid for a dead-tree copy of a volume.)

The thing that I really like is that I have access to not just the book I am currently reading (I could just bring that and it would only consume a little bit more space), but all the other books in my library, plus (with programs such a calibre) free newspapers from around the world. The month long battery life is also a nice touch. On my daily commute it has more than proven its worth.

In some ways it is like having your very own Hitchhiker's Guide to the galaxy. (especially if you have hacked the standard screen saver to display "don't panic" instead of pictures of dead authors.)

Carth:
If you can't find 30-40 books you want to read you're not the ereader's market. If you don't like to read complaining ereaders are dumb isn't helpful criticism.

I never once said that they're dumb. I think they're pretty sweet, and I wouldn't mind having one myself. Probably will pick one up next year.

I just don't agree with trying to justify whether or not to buy new technology strictly on a cost/benefit analysis rationale. That simply does not work.

Cost/benefit wise, you could also justify not eating anything other than eggs and oatmeal: it's decently nutritious, and you use the same water you boiled the eggs in to make the oatmeal, so you save energy there too. And eggs and oatmeal are really cheap, you can eat for a week for under $2.

At some point, personal taste needs to be a factor.

whenIsayGO: reading on an iPhone was not pleasant

I've been reading eBooks for a long time, on a couple of Palm III, both with a monochrome screen, a Palm IIIc, c for color, a HP Jornada 640, a Toshiba e750, a Dell Axim x30, T-Mobile Wing and the last one I ditched this summer and got a iPhone 3G. Compared to all the previous devices, the iPhone, with Stanza, bombs them all into oblivion. Then I've got a free iPad 2 a few weeks ago, and holy shiatting dick nipples, it's better than reading an actual dead tree book.

Also a certain amount of ethical jujutsu's to convince yourself that it is not really stealing if you already paid for a dead-tree copy of a volume.

Is that book available at your tax supported local library for you to read essentially free? Go to said library, check out said book, go home, download said book, read it on your device, delete when finished, return said book to library. That's all the ethical jujitsu I need.

brigid_fitch: kisseswookies: In defense of the Kindle, the books are generally cheaper, and they're rolling out a system with libraries so then they will be free.

Nook's had that since day one. You picked a poor platform.

/Has both
//Nook books are generally a little cheaper, too.

Missed the part where I said it was a gift?

/played with many a nook, love my Kindle still.

brigid_fitch: kisseswookies: In defense of the Kindle, the books are generally cheaper, and they're rolling out a system with libraries so then they will be free.

Nook's had that since day one. You picked a poor platform.

/Has both
//Nook books are generally a little cheaper, too.

All the big publishers have the agency model and dictate the price to both amazon and BN. Looking up the last 5 books I read with the prices not set by publishers, (Gardens of the Moon, Jonathan Strange and Mr. Norrell, Hunger Games and After America: Get Ready for Armageddon) every single one is cheaper on Amazon and one is free with Prime. Where are you reading the Nook books are cheaper?

Why anyone would want to tie themselves to a company in as much financial trouble as BN is a mystery.

So many microhenryvoltfarads per newton meter flowing through those conveyor belts you're lucky you don't create new life out of your briefcase.