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(IndyStar) Scary You know that grenade your grandfather brought home from Korea that's now up in your attic that everybody in your family says is a dud? Yeah, about that   (indystar.com) divider line 63
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2011-11-20 08:40:46 AM
Did the dumbass tag get a dishonorable discharge?
 
2011-11-20 09:08:03 AM
Where did anyone say that it was a dud?

And, I don't see a problem with a live grenade. The guy in the article says they are very stable and can sit on a shelf for 40 years without any problem. I'm fairly certain they don't just randomly blow up as they get old.
 
2011-11-20 09:10:55 AM
For one thing, "dud" means "hasn't exploded...yet." It does not mean, "cannot explode." If you light a dud firecracker and it doesn't go off, do you pick it up and hold it over a lighted candle?

Bringing home grenades is crazy unless you know the fuse and explosives have been removed. Even then it's still crazy, but not in a "Hey Elmer! Looka this!" crazy.
 
2011-11-20 09:12:32 AM
CSB: My Hungarian grandfather fought in WWI and was captured by the Russians after about a week in the field. Since the Russians had conscripted so many young Russian males into the army, they were facing a severe worker shortage.

Since my grandfather was a farmer before the War, they shipped him off to the middle of Russia to farm as a POW. I used to ask him if it was harsh and he would quietly nod.

The ONE thing he kept as a memento was this kind of glass bottle with tubes sticking out of it, and I never understood what it was as a kid. I know my grandmother hated it because she'd always hide it when we grandkids would come over.

My grandfather died when I was 13, and it all became clear when my mom told my dad, "Well I certainly hope he didn't leave you that horrible Russian bong in his will."

/war mementos
 
2011-11-20 09:13:23 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't see a problem with a live grenade

darwin likes you
 
2011-11-20 09:14:33 AM
Back when my dad was 10, be found a live grenade at a construction site in a pile of fill dirt they'd trucked in. Of course he brought it home and gave it to his father, who put it in the garden shed. When grandma found out, she made grandpa take it to the police.

Seems that people didn't make a big deal out of these situations back in the 1950's.
 
2011-11-20 09:15:07 AM
I'd be pissed if she was a member of my family and deprived me of all those chances to detonate a live grenade.
 
2011-11-20 09:20:37 AM
Frank N Stein: I'd be pissed if she was a member of my family and deprived me of all those chances to detonate a live grenade.

Seriously. Hell, the bomb squad should've taken him along to do the honors.
 
2011-11-20 09:29:16 AM
I have a grenade, mortar shell, and nazi bayonet my grandpa somehow got in WWII. I just have the grenade laying around my house. It's funny when people see it. It's not live (It's hollow and I have taken it completely apart), but i like to pretend i don't know and see their reactions.
 
2011-11-20 09:33:37 AM
BOOM!
 
2011-11-20 09:37:07 AM
All right, let's all read together.
thedemotivators.com
 
2011-11-20 09:38:53 AM
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2011-11-20 09:38:57 AM
CSB: I was born on an american military base in germany in 1986. My father was a tank commander. My older brother was playing in the park one day (he was 7) and found a grenade and brought it home to my father. My father freaked out and went to a MP who tracked the serial number on the grenade and traced it to some young private. He claimed it fell off his pack and he was afraid to tell anyone he lost it. Needless to say he had to do many pushups.
 
2011-11-20 09:46:53 AM
Smart woman.
 
2011-11-20 09:47:06 AM
"She saved lives by calling police."

___

NEVER call pigs!!
 
2011-11-20 09:48:19 AM
I have one on this desk. Great for cracking walnuts.
 
2011-11-20 09:50:23 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob: Where did anyone say that it was a dud?

And, I don't see a problem with a live grenade. The guy in the article says they are very stable and can sit on a shelf for 40 years without any problem. I'm fairly certain they don't just randomly blow up as they get old.


The article did mention that the pin was already half way out. While they aren't nearly as easy to pull as you see in the movies (that's a good way to wreck your teeth), there's not much keeping that pin from coming the rest of the way out.
 
2011-11-20 09:54:55 AM
Could be worse
i196.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-20 10:03:41 AM
Slartibartfaster: Fark_Guy_Rob: I don't see a problem with a live grenade

darwin likes you


So does your Mom! Zing!
 
2011-11-20 10:21:50 AM
Kibbler: For one thing, "dud" means "hasn't exploded...yet." It does not mean, "cannot explode." If you light a dud firecracker and it doesn't go off, do you pick it up and hold it over a lighted candle?

Bringing home grenades is crazy unless you know the fuse and explosives have been removed. Even then it's still crazy, but not in a "Hey Elmer! Looka this!" crazy.



This.
 
2011-11-20 10:26:02 AM
Fark_Guy_Rob: Where did anyone say that it was a dud?

And, I don't see a problem with a live grenade. The guy in the article says they are very stable and can sit on a shelf for 40 years without any problem. I'm fairly certain they don't just randomly blow up as they get old.


Well, now at least people know what to get you for Xmas this year.
 
2011-11-20 10:39:26 AM
I live in a county where a large percentage of the population is 65 and up. As the WWII and Korean War vets kick-off, the surviving family members find a crap-load of weapons and ordnance these guy brought back as "souvenirs". Machine guns, hand grenades, mortar rounds, etc. The local bomb squad gets called out once a week on average.
 
2011-11-20 10:41:44 AM
cfs3.tistory.com

Knows a little something about Korean duds
/obscure?
 
2011-11-20 10:59:04 AM
seatown75: Back when my dad was 10, be found a live grenade at a construction site in a pile of fill dirt they'd trucked in. Of course he brought it home and gave it to his father, who put it in the garden shed. When grandma found out, she made grandpa take it to the police.

Seems that people didn't make a big deal out of these situations back in the 1950's.


It was kind of common. WWII vets brought back all sorts of souvenirs. Some of them were fool enough to bring home live artillery shells (the ultimate in doorstops). When I was a growing up in Long Beach, the widows of veterans often gave away their late husbands war souvenirs to the kids next door. I knew a kid whose neighbor gave him a Sten gun and some German SS swords.
 
2011-11-20 11:03:04 AM
Christopher Walken reportedly very curious as to how the grenade was transported back.
 
2011-11-20 11:33:08 AM
LewDux: Could be worse

Thank you. I thought I was one of the few who knew of this movie.
 
2011-11-20 11:43:59 AM
Hell, I could still detonate after 40 years. BFD.
 
2011-11-20 11:47:40 AM
blackmtnmantheonly: Hell, I could still detonate after 40 years. BFD.

Yeah yeah, we've all heard about your short fuse.
 
2011-11-20 11:53:49 AM
My first thought was of an ugly Korean grandma.

/too much Jersey Shore
 
2011-11-20 12:04:42 PM
This happened to me. There was a grenade that had been in my grandparents house forever, WW2 I guess, and my sister at some point had spoken to the police about it. She assured them it had been deactivated, and they said to bring it in and they'd dispose of it.

Anyway, some months later during a clearout I took the thing to the police. They asked if it was deactivated. I said I believed so, but really I couldn't be 100% certain of that. An hour later, after a semi-evacuation of the police HQ, the army guys made it safe and said that in fact it could really have exploded at any time. Luckily it hadn't done so. But it was an ornament, had always been sitting on a bookcase for as long as I could remember. The police were pretty cool about the whole thing, never even asked to see any ID, and asked me to please call them in future should I find another rather than coming to visit.
 
2011-11-20 12:21:59 PM
I once spent two hours attempting to defuse a practice anti-tank mine equipped with two pushme-pullyous (anti-handling devices) and a moustrap-type deadman switch attached, that was buried in fresh-plowed dirt. I managed to defuse the two tripline equipped pushme-pullyous, and thought I'd disabled the mousetrap, by tunneling under and holding it in place with my finger (not the unauthorized one). I flipped the mine over triumphantly, and BLAM! I was killed. Not dead of course, but I did get a nice burn on my finger from the primer that would have detonated the mine had it not been inert.

The lesson I learned: Whenever possible blow it up in place. Also, if you're gonna keep things that go boom, keep 'em somewhere that if it makes that big noise accidentally, nothing of value is lost, especially human lives, as there is a lot of paperwork involved, and you gotta send flowers and shiat.
 
2011-11-20 12:26:39 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I once spent two hours attempting to defuse a practice anti-tank mine equipped with two pushme-pullyous (anti-handling devices) and a moustrap-type deadman switch attached, that was buried in fresh-plowed dirt. I managed to defuse the two tripline equipped pushme-pullyous, and thought I'd disabled the mousetrap, by tunneling under and holding it in place with my finger (not the unauthorized one). I flipped the mine over triumphantly, and BLAM! I was killed. Not dead of course, but I did get a nice burn on my finger from the primer that would have detonated the mine had it not been inert.

The lesson I learned: Whenever possible blow it up in place. Also, if you're gonna keep things that go boom, keep 'em somewhere that if it makes that big noise accidentally, nothing of value is lost, especially human lives, as there is a lot of paperwork involved, and you gotta send flowers and shiat.


And the award for the best post and username combination goes to..
 
2011-11-20 12:34:30 PM
Here's a page from a pamphlet that was given out at Camp Kilmer in New Jersey to returning WWII GI's concerning "souvenirs".

Link (new window)
 
2011-11-20 12:37:17 PM
Mugato: Did the dumbass tag get a dishonorable discharge?

You would be shocked the kind of sh*t people have sitting in their closets that was declared "used in training" and happened to find it's way home.

I'm not talking about no single grenade either. We're talking about enough to wipe out a platoon of heavily armed infantry and, in some cases, light armored vehicles.
 
2011-11-20 12:43:20 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: I once spent two hours attempting to defuse a practice anti-tank mine equipped with two pushme-pullyous

Ya know, we only spent 1 day at Knox on anti-personnel mine training, but I remember it most vividly. The instructors set it up in such a way that it was fun, informative and they scared the living crap out of you by really explaining how things work and how methodical you need to be in probing for them... Zig-zag pattern, etc... Then they had a great obstacle course where I think everyone died. Just clever placement and really made you look for stuff to place engineer tape on it.

I took two things away from that training. 1) Always look down and be aware of where you are stepping (Made me 5 bucks I found in the parking lot yesterday.) 2) Anytime I saw an EOD sticker on a DOD ID, I gave that man a hearty handshake a smile and whatever he needed. We have an EOD team here at the Navy base. Coolest, craziest guys I ever met. Always fun to have drinks with them.
 
2011-11-20 01:02:30 PM
I hope- hope- that the modern US military is much more serious about preventing people from bringing home these "souvenirs" of their war experience.
 
2011-11-20 01:06:08 PM
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blackmtnmantheonly: Hell, I could still detonate after 40 years. BFD.

Yeah yeah, we've all heard about your short fuse.

Yeah, yeah....The fuse may be short, but it takes a long time before it burns down. BOOM
 
2011-11-20 01:11:49 PM
NewportBarGuy: Ya know, we only spent 1 day at Knox on anti-personnel mine training, but I remember it most vividly. The instructors set it up in such a way that it was fun, informative and they scared the living crap out of you by really explaining how things work and how methodical you need to be in probing for them... Zig-zag pattern, etc... Then they had a great obstacle course where I think everyone died. Just clever placement and really made you look for stuff to place engineer tape on it.

I took two things away from that training. 1) Always look down and be aware of where you are stepping (Made me 5 bucks I found in the parking lot yesterday.) 2) Anytime I saw an EOD sticker on a DOD ID, I gave that man a hearty handshake a smile and whatever he needed. We have an EOD team here at the Navy base. Coolest, craziest guys I ever met. Always fun to have drinks with them.


I taught demolition in the National Guard but like you, I have utmost respect for EOD. I'm glad I never had to do their job. I was a Combat Engineer, and it is part of our job skills, but not our primary duty, so we never got enough training to consider doing anything but packing explosives around the suspicious object and stand back.

We did a practice mission one fall, where we emplaced a minefield according to military specs on the side of Mount Shasta. This was back when the doctrine was to bury the mines, now they say leave them on the surface. Anyway, we emplaced approximately 20 antitank mines and maybe 100 antipersonnel mines, some with anti-handling devices. We mapped it, as it wasn't a hasty minefield but a deliberate one. The next spring, we were tasked with removing the minefield. Hell, we couldn't even find it! So every day (this was 17 years ago), I expect to read a news story about some skid-loader driver in the Penny Pines District finding an entire minefield. It's gonna happen. And when it does, I KNOW NOTHING!
 
2011-11-20 01:16:00 PM
What? Who are you talking to, subby? My grandfather didn't serve in Korea.
 
2011-11-20 01:20:23 PM
"'Es I 'spose."
"Yes, I suppose."
 
2011-11-20 01:26:22 PM
"She saved lives," he said. "She saved lives by calling police."

Quite the contrary, I'm going to award her the first annual Joe Paterno 911 Inaction Award.

Congrats, Sheila.
 
2011-11-20 01:36:29 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: So every day (this was 17 years ago), I expect to read a news story about some skid-loader driver in the Penny Pines District finding an entire minefield. It's gonna happen. And when it does, I KNOW NOTHING!

Ha! Man, that's beautiful. Not at all surprising, and probably why they make them leave them unburied these days. Maintain your lack of knowledge at all times. CRS it a helluva thing. "I Cain't Remember Shiat!"
 
2011-11-20 02:00:44 PM
My dad found a grenade while cleaning under the family camp. He called in the bomb squad and the story even made the news. Turned out to be inactive, but I guess you can never be too sure.
 
2011-11-20 02:16:44 PM
krafty420: My dad found a grenade while cleaning under the family camp. He called in the bomb squad and the story even made the news. Turned out to be inactive, but I guess you can never be too sure.

You have a smart father.
 
2011-11-20 02:35:05 PM
krafty420: My dad found a grenade while cleaning under the family camp. He called in the bomb squad and the story even made the news. Turned out to be inactive, but I guess you can never be too sure.

This one time, at band camp...
 
2011-11-20 03:26:20 PM
Welcome to France, particularly, any WW1 battlefield. Large areas of Eastern France still can't be farmed or dug into, for fear of hitting anything explosive that happened to be buried for about 90 years. Despite being saturated in ground water, the French and the Germans clearly got their money's worth in the explosives they purchased - some of which are still able to detonate.
 
2011-11-20 04:03:02 PM
I had a supervisor at past job who found an actual old grenade in his sons dresser. I think the teen was only in his late teens too. He took a picture of it on his phone and it looked brown, probably rusted like the grenade in the article. He also had old rifle bullets with swastikas on the bottom, I had one for awhile. He was asking us what to do with it, he was a convict and he didnt want to call the cops. I suggested burying it up in the mountains, he leaned towards throwing it into a local lake. He never did say what he did with it, but if they ever drag the bottom of Lake Guasti in CA, I have a suspicion a live grenade will be among the debris.
 
2011-11-20 04:18:38 PM
Why not just pull the farkign pin and throw it into the woods?
 
2011-11-20 05:06:32 PM
UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: NewportBarGuy: Ya know, we only spent 1 day at Knox on anti-personnel mine training, but I remember it most vividly. The instructors set it up in such a way that it was fun, informative and they scared the living crap out of you by really explaining how things work and how methodical you need to be in probing for them... Zig-zag pattern, etc... Then they had a great obstacle course where I think everyone died. Just clever placement and really made you look for stuff to place engineer tape on it.

I took two things away from that training. 1) Always look down and be aware of where you are stepping (Made me 5 bucks I found in the parking lot yesterday.) 2) Anytime I saw an EOD sticker on a DOD ID, I gave that man a hearty handshake a smile and whatever he needed. We have an EOD team here at the Navy base. Coolest, craziest guys I ever met. Always fun to have drinks with them.

I taught demolition in the National Guard but like you, I have utmost respect for EOD. I'm glad I never had to do their job. I was a Combat Engineer, and it is part of our job skills, but not our primary duty, so we never got enough training to consider doing anything but packing explosives around the suspicious object and stand back.

We did a practice mission one fall, where we emplaced a minefield according to military specs on the side of Mount Shasta. This was back when the doctrine was to bury the mines, now they say leave them on the surface. Anyway, we emplaced approximately 20 antitank mines and maybe 100 antipersonnel mines, some with anti-handling devices. We mapped it, as it wasn't a hasty minefield but a deliberate one. The next spring, we were tasked with removing the minefield. Hell, we couldn't even find it! So every day (this was 17 years ago), I expect to read a news story about some skid-loader driver in the Penny Pines District finding an entire minefield. It's gonna happen. And when it does, I KNOW NOTHING!


Wow....Just wow...

That's a serious fark up. I hope heads were rolled. But it sounds like it got brushed under the carpet. Did the NCO that did the documentation lost all his paperwork or what?
 
2011-11-20 05:21:56 PM
My wife has her dads german Luger from WWII (101st Bastogne)
And my 80 yr old neighbor still has a pair of japanese soldier ears.
Problem?
 
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