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2011-11-20 12:10:30 AM
"Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

No shiat, Sherlock.
 
2011-11-20 12:39:13 AM
Film director Oliver Stone has launched a critical rant against America's love of money, its role in war and Barack Obama whilst at a film festival in Algeria where he's promoting his latest documentary.

I think we found the reason
 
2011-11-20 06:46:04 AM
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/Not mine
 
2011-11-20 07:09:43 AM
Take care of your own before giving away billions to other shiat infested countries. I have no problem with that.


/Tell Stone to give some of his millionsto help other countries
 
2011-11-20 07:55:20 AM
hbk72777: Take care of your own before giving away billions to other shiat infested countries. I have no problem with that.


/Tell Stone to give some of his millionsto help other countries


Read this in Grandpa Simpson's voice!
 
2011-11-20 08:41:56 AM
"The middle class is being crapped on, and the people in power are all greedy...now pay $10 to watch my movie at this national chain theater..."
 
2011-11-20 08:59:55 AM
his origins according to "the people" (wikipedia)

Stone was born in New York City, the son of Jacqueline (née Goddet) and Louis Stone, a stockbroker.[3] He grew up affluently and lived in townhouses in Manhattan and Stamford, Connecticut. His father was Jewish and his mother was French-born and Catholic.[4] As a religious compromise, Stone was raised in the Episcopal Church,[5][6] but has since converted to Buddhism.[7] Stone attended Trinity School before his parents sent him away to attend The Hill School, a college-preparatory school in Pottstown, Pennsylvania. His mother was often absent and his father made a big impact on his life; father-son relationships were to feature heavily in Stone's films.[8] His parents divorced when he was 15, due to his father's extramarital affairs with the wives of several family friends.[9] Stone's father was also influential in obtaining jobs for his son, including work on a financial exchange in France, where Stone often spent his summer vacation with his maternal grandparents - a job that proved inspirational to Stone for his movie Wall Street. Stone graduated from The Hill School in 1964.

Yes, if only our fathers could get us all summer jobs working in the French stock exchange, we could all be as cosmopolitan as this snowflake.
 
2011-11-20 09:23:03 AM
Then he should have no problem with donating his money and working for a living wage.
 
2011-11-20 09:40:03 AM
gopher321: "Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

No shiat, Sherlock.


So, does this mean we can stop sending billions in overseas aid and bring every soldier, sailor airman or marine stationed overseas home?

The job of that panel trying to cut spending just got a lot easier.
 
2011-11-20 09:47:39 AM
Ummm Mr. Stone, you do know that you can pay more taxes right??? There is a little used form that allows you to pay more...... I know, I know if you pay more, you can't afford to fill your swimming pool with Dom. I get it, but before you throw Stones in a glass house, why don't you and Michale Moore give a little something extra to the schools.... Just saying....... I mean. I only make 57K a year and I do....
 
2011-11-20 10:08:32 AM
SharkTrager: gopher321: "Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

No shiat, Sherlock.

So, does this mean we can stop sending billions in overseas aid and bring every soldier, sailor airman or marine stationed overseas home?

The job of that panel trying to cut spending just got a lot easier.


Hey, remember when there was a segment of the country that was scornfully called "America First-ers" in the 1930s? I'm for bringing that back.
 
2011-11-20 10:35:02 AM
Speaking mostly in French at a press conference in Algiers yesterday, Stone said he was shocked by the global financial crisis and "to see how money was venerated by America".


Well, Mr. Stone, why don't you just send me all of your money and I promise I'll burn every bit of it. Really. I promise.

/well maybe not all of it
 
2011-11-20 10:35:03 AM
I once worked for a non-profit in California that did advocacy work on environmental issues. Our founder was "friends" (in the Hollywood sense) with Oliver Stone, who told him over and over what work he was doing.

And when our founder asked Oliver Stone for $1,000? His response was "my contribution is that you get to use my name."

So, Oliver Stone, take your comments about loving money and lack of empathy and SHOVE THEM UP YOUR HINEYHOLE.
 
2011-11-20 10:35:42 AM
gopher321: "Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

No shiat, Sherlock.


Neither does anyone else really, it is just that we are supposed to care as we are the only superpower. Perplexing to me how he could have such disdain for a country that allowed him, a man from humble beginnings, to become rich and moderately famous. It is also curious to me why he considers Europe to be such a beacon. To me, they are every bit as flawed as the United States. If they supposedly do everything right, how has it come to pass the EU is on the edge of the financial abyss, about to fall over into it. We are right behind them.
 
2011-11-20 10:38:47 AM
A dangerously insane human being.


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2011-11-20 10:59:52 AM
He doesn't sound any different than Obama when he is overseas.
 
2011-11-20 11:06:05 AM
Yeah.. HE'S way off. You farking bubble humans have been watching this guy rant for decades, now you wonder why.
 
2011-11-20 11:23:29 AM
The director was on a whirlwind 24-hour visit to the Algerian capital to promote his latest creation The Untold Story of the US, a 10-hour long documentary

So his plan to combat overpopulation is to bore people to death? I guess that's effective but I'm unclear as to how it relates to his message.
 
2011-11-20 11:44:55 AM
Americans don't give a shiat about other countries, more on this at 11...


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2011-11-20 11:53:16 AM
ArkAngel: Film director Oliver Stone has launched a critical rant against America's love of money, its role in war and Barack Obama whilst at a film festival in Algeria where he's promoting his latest documentary.

I think we found the reason



Bingo.
 
2011-11-20 11:54:29 AM
That insufferable prick screwed up Tarantino's perfectly good Natural Born Killers script with his over-stylized bullshiat. And what's he doing whining about the Viet Nam war? Talk about biting the hand that fed you.
 
2011-11-20 11:58:03 AM
Words of wisdom from the guy who gave the world the Nixon movie.

Duly noted.

thks/bye.
 
2011-11-20 12:21:43 PM
Fark Stone.
 
2011-11-20 12:58:46 PM
Pumpernickel bread: gopher321: "Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

No shiat, Sherlock.

Neither does anyone else really, it is just that we are supposed to care as we are the only superpower. Perplexing to me how he could have such disdain for a country that allowed him, a man from humble beginnings, to become rich and moderately famous. It is also curious to me why he considers Europe to be such a beacon. To me, they are every bit as flawed as the United States. If they supposedly do everything right, how has it come to pass the EU is on the edge of the financial abyss, about to fall over into it. We are right behind them.


You mean your average European isn't sitting around their table at the local cafe feverishly pulling their hair out in empathy about how the local joe's out in Kansas are going to make their next mortgage payment?
 
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2011-11-20 01:04:14 PM
It's actually other Americans that most folks in the US don't give a shiat about. Our concern for other countries extends to "can we bomb them needed? Ok, cool"
 
2011-11-20 01:08:05 PM
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Stone's kinda government.

By the way, I'd really like an example of the "empathy" an average European has for any problems outside the country they're living in.
 
2011-11-20 01:18:21 PM
hbk72777: /Tell Stone to give some of his millionsto help other countries

He spent it all on cocaine and hookers.
 
2011-11-20 01:20:54 PM
"Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."

I thought we were the careening, out-of-control, cultural-imperialist boobheads, always butting in and screwing things up for the other peace-lovink pipples. Which is it?
 
2011-11-20 02:20:31 PM
Go Fast Turn Left: "The middle class is being crapped on, and the people in power are all greedy...now pay $10 to watch my movie at this national chain theater..."

Ah, you are one of those people who thinks that if someone argues that very wealthy should not turn us into the equivalent of pre-Black Death serfs, then that person must, perforce, want to do away with the exchange of money for goods and services. There is a word to describe this kind of thinking: dumb.
 
2011-11-20 02:27:24 PM
DeaH: Go Fast Turn Left: "The middle class is being crapped on, and the people in power are all greedy...now pay $10 to watch my movie at this national chain theater..."

Ah, you are one of those people who thinks that if someone argues that very wealthy should not turn us into the equivalent of pre-Black Death serfs, then that person must, perforce, want to do away with the exchange of money for goods and services. There is a word to describe this kind of thinking: dumb.


That's right, the middle and lower income classes of the United States are the equivalent of Dark Ages serfs. Your lives are just so miserable and barren of any pleasure, with your cars and flatscreen TVs and iPads and iPhones and video games. Won't somebody please think of the desperate plight of the poor Americans?!?
 
2011-11-20 02:28:48 PM
Just another example of a stupid man saying stupid things.
 
2011-11-20 02:40:40 PM
Flipper47465: Ummm Mr. Stone, you do know that you can pay more taxes right??? There is a little used form that allows you to pay more...... I know, I know if you pay more, you can't afford to fill your swimming pool with Dom. I get it, but before you throw Stones in a glass house, why don't you and Michale Moore give a little something extra to the schools.... Just saying....... I mean. I only make 57K a year and I do....

That sound you heard was the point sailing over your head.
 
2011-11-20 02:44:23 PM
"Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."


How about the re-issue of We are the world. We care a LOT! (NSF Stupid People!)
 
2011-11-20 03:30:39 PM
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YAY Cloud!!!
 
2011-11-20 04:21:17 PM
Look at me! I'm still relevant! Look at meeee!!!
 
2011-11-20 04:34:43 PM
He sounds fatter than ever.
 
2011-11-20 04:52:49 PM
Yawn. Another filthy rich limousine liberal who hates the system that allowed them to become successful. Hollywood is full of people like this.
 
2011-11-20 05:03:18 PM
Dialectic: "Americans are not really interested in problems abroad," he said. "They have no empathy."


How about the re-issue of We are the world. We care a LOT! (NSF Stupid People!)


At least use the better Faith No More singer.
 
2011-11-20 05:52:52 PM
American's don't care about other countries? We have as many protests about atrocities abroad and American intervention as we have about anything else.
 
2011-11-20 06:18:09 PM
SnakeMan: That's right, the middle and lower income classes of the United States are the equivalent of Dark Ages serfs. Your lives are just so miserable and barren of any pleasure, with your cars and flatscreen TVs and iPads and iPhones and video games. Won't somebody please think of the desperate plight of the poor Americans?!?

Huh, I currently have none of those things. I guess that means I must not be an American then, I just wonder how I ended with an American birth certificate.
 
2011-11-20 06:24:23 PM
Gwyrddu: SnakeMan: That's right, the middle and lower income classes of the United States are the equivalent of Dark Ages serfs. Your lives are just so miserable and barren of any pleasure, with your cars and flatscreen TVs and iPads and iPhones and video games. Won't somebody please think of the desperate plight of the poor Americans?!?

Huh, I currently have none of those things. I guess that means I must not be an American then, I just wonder how I ended with an American birth certificate.


You must at least have a computer, unless you're posting from a public library's computer.
 
2011-11-20 06:40:19 PM
Everyone is glossing over the most important fact of this article.

The Occupy Wall Street movement would do better to move to "Washington and not New York, to have more impact"
 
2011-11-20 06:45:24 PM
SnakeMan: You must at least have a computer, unless you're posting from a public library's computer.

I don't own a working computer either actually, the only computer I currently have is rented out from my school (I'm required to rent it for some of my classes)..
 
2011-11-20 06:54:03 PM
Gwyrddu: SnakeMan: You must at least have a computer, unless you're posting from a public library's computer.

I don't own a working computer either actually, the only computer I currently have is rented out from my school (I'm required to rent it for some of my classes)..


School, classes, rented computer. Interesting. In some parts of the world, having access to these services would place you among the 1%. Yet you argue with me, which suggests you sympathize with the assertion that middle and lower income Americans live like serfs.
 
2011-11-20 06:54:50 PM
Last night I paid $26 for two movie tickets and $7.50 for two bottles of water.

The Hollywood elite with their crocodile tears for the middle class can kiss my ass.

I'm sure that Stone and the rest pay more for agents, accountants, and lawyers than most Americans make in a year.
 
2011-11-20 07:20:07 PM
SnakeMan: School, classes, rented computer. Interesting. In some parts of the world, having access to these services would place you among the 1%. Yet you argue with me, which suggests you sympathize with the assertion that middle and lower income Americans live like serfs.

I don't think anyone is arguing here whether or not we have it better off than just about any third world country, which is the only places that such services would put you in the 1%. But to be a first world country requires an educated populace, which means that those things can't be a privilege reserved for the few.

Also, I'm not sure you understand what a serf is. Most serfs were at one time free farmers who went into debt to landowners, and become bond into a form of slavery until they paid off their loans. Whether they had material possessions was irrelevant to whether they serfs. What was important was the debt slavery.

In this, there is a parallel to our current situation, where more and more Americans are going deeper and deeper into debt, often just to scrape by, pay for medical bills or often futility trying to raise their income by taking out college loans. Right now Americans owe more personal debt that what the US government owes in debt.
 
2011-11-20 07:20:11 PM
I have no love for Stone but I don't get the disconnect that someone can't be rich and also think the system is farked up. I think more than anything it pisses some people off when it's shown that not everyone who supports this movement is a jobless bum.
 
2011-11-20 07:26:44 PM
Gwyrddu: SnakeMan: School, classes, rented computer. Interesting. In some parts of the world, having access to these services would place you among the 1%. Yet you argue with me, which suggests you sympathize with the assertion that middle and lower income Americans live like serfs.

I don't think anyone is arguing here whether or not we have it better off than just about any third world country, which is the only places that such services would put you in the 1%. But to be a first world country requires an educated populace, which means that those things can't be a privilege reserved for the few.

Also, I'm not sure you understand what a serf is. Most serfs were at one time free farmers who went into debt to landowners, and become bond into a form of slavery until they paid off their loans. Whether they had material possessions was irrelevant to whether they serfs. What was important was the debt slavery.

In this, there is a parallel to our current situation, where more and more Americans are going deeper and deeper into debt, often just to scrape by, pay for medical bills or often futility trying to raise their income by taking out college loans. Right now Americans owe more personal debt that what the US government owes in debt.


Who put a gun to their heads and made them take out all that debt? Who gave them the idea that EVERYONE has to go to college? Who told them to study useless crap that doesn't keep them employed?
 
2011-11-20 07:48:13 PM
SnakeMan:

Who put a gun to their heads and made them take out all that debt? Who gave them the idea that EVERYONE has to go to college? Who told them to study useless crap that doesn't keep them employed?


What forced them back into college was economic necessity, so they can find a job that payed them enough so they didn't fall into the poor or near poor category. It was human resource who put the bar high enough that very jobs that paid decent wages didn't require a college education. And because everyone started realizing they most likely needed a college degree around the same time, college tuition shot up. And because college tuition shot up, people were forced to take out larger and larger loans to pay for college.

And when they graduated from college, they found that there was now a glut of other people who also graduated, so the wage of college graduated didn't necessarily improve their economic condition when student loans were taken into account. So now, good jobs not only require a college degree, but often long list of experience and other credentials as well, and thus the arms race continues.

As for majors, people have been enrolling in all majors at increasing amounts, except for the teaching profession. I'm sure a large number of people majoring in the humanities aren't planning to go in math heavy fields, probably have trouble with math anyway, but still need a degree to get a job not in low wage food service.

Anyway, whether they choose to go to school or not, more and more people are barely scrapping by.
 
2011-11-20 07:57:25 PM
Gwyrddu: As for majors, people have been enrolling in all majors at increasing amounts, except for the teaching profession. I'm sure a large number of people majoring in the humanities aren't planning to go in math heavy fields, probably have trouble with math anyway, but still need a degree to get a job not in low wage food service.

When I got my CS degree, it was the hottest thing to have. Now that we've outsourced so many CS jobs (thanks, Dubya) the goal posts have moved somewhat. So it's not just art history majors we're talking about. Luckily I was able to go back to school but that's not the norm.
 
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