Nice.

I guess some of them can be useful after all.

Another issue is the stupidity that allows laws to be written in such a confusing form. Perhaps they can start on that when they are done picking this monster apart.

Good.... now maybe the others can start advocating for the repel of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act or maybe for the creation of other public banks like the Bank of North Dakota.

Now if only some politicians would grab onto this idea and follow it through.

Yes because getting up off your ass and spreading awareness isn't "useful."

You sure told us, subby.

whidbey: Yes because getting up off your ass and spreading awareness isn't "useful."

You sure told us, subby.

Spreading awareness is counterproductive the forces of the status quo, therefore it is not useful to our True Lords and Masters, The Holy Job Creators (Peace Be Upon Them).

"What if, instead of blocking traffic, spreading disease, destroying property, and generally being nuisance, what if we actually did something useful?"

That sounds dangerously like a productive job.

Arthur Jumbles: Good.... now maybe the others can start advocating for the repel of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act or maybe for the creation of other public banks like the Bank of North Dakota.

So you still don't understand the different powers between the States and the Federal government. Some day... some day...

Good.

I am curious what the banks got for the millions of $$$ in bribes campaign contributions they paid out.

globalwarmingpraiser: whidbey: Yes because getting up off your ass and spreading awareness isn't "useful."

You sure told us, subby.

Being an overall douchebag doesn't help your cause. If you make everyone think your an asshole, then noone will support you. Sure you spread awareness, but it is the wrong type of awareness.

OWS has been, with the exception of a few incidents which Fox News has chosen to run with, an overwhelmingly peaceful movement filled with good ideas and awareness.

Not sure what you're talking about.

Absolutely nothing is more useful than throwing a scare into the 1 percenters and shortening their leash.

Add in the fact that they changed the national debate to their terms and you have one of the most useful movements ever.

Thank you OWS.

some.old.lady.: Agh more power to them! I think at this stage, my brain would asplode. Tough folks with gumption, I love 'em.

Say what you want about the Occupiers, but seriously, you can't deny that they're hanging tough.

globalwarmingpraiser: Blocking Traffic, taking over a park, and the hygiene issues are a problem. Say what you will about the Tea Party, they leave places where they protest clean, file all of the necessary paperwork, and act like decent guests where they protest.

Wow your Fox News Kool-aid tastes a bit sour. Pour some sugar on it.

MyRandomName: Arthur Jumbles: Good.... now maybe the others can start advocating for the repel of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act or maybe for the creation of other public banks like the Bank of North Dakota.

So you still don't understand the different powers between the States and the Federal government. Some day... some day...

The Occupy Wall Street movements can't advocate for changes at both the State and Federal level?

OWS needs leaders, not readers.

_/cain

globalwarmingpraiser: file all of the necessary paperwork

Yeah, see, I don't think this is going to be much of a thing anymore. I doubt the Occupiers are even going to care about permits from here on in. In their minds, they did the permits, they dotted I's, crossed T's, and all it got them was pepper spray in the face and dented skulls from flash grenades. From here on in, expect it to be 'we're going to occupy what we want, when we want; we're going to get arrested and get the crap kicked out of us either way so the hell with it, let's play hardball.'

Gosling: Say what you want about the Occupiers, but seriously, you can't deny that they're hanging tough.

They got hammered by some really bad weather especially that storm at the end of October which was like a winter storm and they camped out in the middle of all that.

I've done winter camping in NY. It's not easy but the one thing that made it tolerable was having a campfire that kept at least one side of you warm.

Doing it without a fire is pretty tough.

globalwarmingpraiser: Occupiers have made more attempts at a "2nd Amendment solution" than the Tea Party has

Stop trolling.

Seriously, if the Occupiers and the Tea Party got together and stated fighting Corruption of all types, like what is going on in Memphis, I would back that one hundred percent.

Stop admiring the Tea Party. They are selfish, morally bankrupt people who have more in common with the people they're protesting against.

This is not about "both sides."

This is you trashing a peaceful movement and parroting Fox News type talking points.

globalwarmingpraiser: Like I said, the OWS people have had more problems that the Tea Party has.

Again, who cares?

F*ck the Tea Party.

globalwarmingpraiser: This type of thing needs to be done in a way that makes a statement without being a horses ass.

Being a, as you put it, "horses ass" is kinda the point of protesting something.

globalwarmingpraiser: You know whidbey has stated Fox News cool aid, but these things have actually happened and no one denies it. If your actions look like this then you play into the Fox News crowd

Screw Fox News. If they don't get the footage they want, they'll just start misattributing quotes, splicing clips and Photoshopping stuff until they do. They're going to make their propaganda no matter what you do, so just do your thing and don't even factor them in.

cameroncrazy1984: People that vote don't give a sh*t about the Tea Party. Look at their "popularity"

You mean all the of hard right teabaggers that were voted in a few months ago?

The problem is that they have been legitimized thanks to the efforts of Fox / Koch et. al. - it's best to take them as a serious threat, as vile and stupid as their platform and message is.

"Your average person will find it very difficult to understand and comment on the issues here," Krawiec told HuffPost, noting that a thorough parsing of the Volcker rule "requires an understanding that quite frankly only industry insiders have."

Isn't that convenient.

cameroncrazy1984: In an off election? That's hardly news.

No, it's Fark.

What I'm getting at here is that your comment "people that vote don't care about the tea party" is demonstratively wrong. They do care. That's a huge problem.

globalwarmingpraiser: whidbey: globalwarmingpraiser: Occupiers have made more attempts at a "2nd Amendment solution" than the Tea Party has

Stop trolling.

Seriously, if the Occupiers and the Tea Party got together and stated fighting Corruption of all types, like what is going on in Memphis, I would back that one hundred percent.

Stop admiring the Tea Party. They are selfish, morally bankrupt people who have more in common with the people they're protesting against.

This is not about "both sides."

This is you trashing a peaceful movement and parroting Fox News type talking points.

So in other words we should ignore facts. These things have all happened. It isn't trolling if it is true. That is like pointing out there are a lot of fat old people at the Tea Party. It's not trolling, It's true. You like the OWS ideas. I like some of them as well. It was the left who started comparing them to the Tea Party. So these comparisons are valid.

No, they're the kind of cherrypicked bullsh*t you'd expect to hear rolling off some Fox News Anchor's lips. You're the one who can't handle the "facts."

Again, who cares?

F*ck the Tea Party.

People who vote. That's who.

Nobody save a fringe group of right-wingers give a sh*t about them. Just pointing that out.

I see you've chosen your side. Poorly.

globalwarmingpraiser: The problem is that they have been legitimized thanks to the efforts of Fox / Koch et. al. - it's best to take them as a serious threat, as vile and stupid as their platform and message is.

Both groups are have good ideas, and them working together could bring about a lot of good. Fighting corruption helps us all. I will gladly join with OWS Memphis and Memphis Tea Party members. There was even a FARK thread on this. (new window)

Heh. The one time Huffington Post is considered "news:"

When they kiss Teabagger ass.

/Yeah, this disingenuous attitude of yours pisses me off. Can't you tell?

whidbey: Nobody save a fringe group of right-wingers give a sh*t about them. Just pointing that out.

Again, a lot of moderates lost their seats to teabaggers not too long ago.

You really do ignore them at your own peril. Unless you LIKE having wingnuts in office..

TsukasaK: whidbey: Nobody save a fringe group of right-wingers give a sh*t about them. Just pointing that out.

Again, a lot of moderates lost their seats to teabaggers not too long ago.

You really do ignore them at your own peril. Unless you LIKE having wingnuts in office..

I didn't mean to say "ignore" them.

I mean, Christ, gwp has a goddam HARD-ON for them.

globalwarmingpraiser: I see you've chosen your side. Poorly.

whidbey are you saying those things didn't happen.

I'm seriously not going to entertain your cherrypicked summation of the movement, no.

I am a Libertarian, and I support the original ideas of the Tea Party. I never denied that. I profoundly reject the people who have made it about social conservatism. I have never, and I mean never denied this

Well I hate to tell you this, but you picked the wrong side.

OWS is much more diverse, and if you actually cared to look into it, you'd find that it's not just hippies, and that you might even find some common ground.

But no, tell us once again how somebody got raped and somebody's gramma got trampled or whatever as if these incidents make up or sum up the entire movement.

It's just disingenuous bullsh*t. Are you really that bent on NOT having an honest discussion? I'm guessing "YES."