watched 4 minutes of it, couldn't handle the derp. i'll just get the filtered derp here instead.

Sounds like Romney made Vander Plaats plotz.

I really really wish they'd let a more liberal person formulate and ask the questions.
Then these debates would be less like a political grandstanding showcase.

I hope they don't talk about torture again, I think I have permanent hearing damage from the deafening silence of the establishment left that ensued last time.

/oh wait, I forgot that Obama said "you're wrong" to them
//strong, progressive leadership!

Not on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or the C-SPANS. Is there finally burnout?

I seriously don't know why I watch these things. Every time I just end up slightly depressed and very afraid.

margarito bandito: Not on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or the C-SPANS. Is there finally burnout?

Nah, This is being hosted by a group who has these values (quoted from their site) If you'd like to help protect preborn babies, marriage as the union of a man and a woman and our most precious freedom, religious liberty.

So its more or less a fringe debate. Kinda why Romney didn't show up.

Sanic123: I seriously don't know why I watch these things. Every time I just end up slightly depressed and very afraid.

Don't worry, Romney will be the candidate. He might even win the election. That wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. After all, he's a liberal republican. There are worse things in the world than having a president who's a liberal republican. I can liver with a liberal republican. Things might even be better under a liberal republican.

Sanic123: margarito bandito: Not on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or the C-SPANS. Is there finally burnout?

Nah, This is being hosted by a group who has these values (quoted from their site) If you'd like to help protect preborn babies, marriage as the union of a man and a woman and our most precious freedom, religious liberty.

So its more or less a fringe debate. Kinda why Romney didn't show up.

I almost wonder if Romney and Huntsman didn't show up because they didn't feel the need to have their religion looked down upon for a few hours at a debate run by and for theocrats.

Jesus H. Christmas, how many Republican debates do there need to be?!? We're not even into primary season yet.

Do Republican voters really not have enough information to make up their minds yet? Do they even vote based on information?

Do the candidates even realize that all the debates accomplish at this point is to give Obama more material (out of their own mouths!) to use against them in the general campaign?

What is there even to "debate," let alone 5 or 6 times.

These 19th-century throwbacks have already got their (tiny) minds made up.

Karac: Sanic123: margarito bandito: Not on CNN, FOX, MSNBC, or the C-SPANS. Is there finally burnout?

Nah, This is being hosted by a group who has these values (quoted from their site) If you'd like to help protect preborn babies, marriage as the union of a man and a woman and our most precious freedom, religious liberty.

So its more or less a fringe debate. Kinda why Romney didn't show up.

I almost wonder if Romney and Huntsman didn't show up because they didn't feel the need to have their religion looked down upon for a few hours at a debate run by and for theocrats.

Also a fair point but I'd still say it is because they don't want to be viewed as fringe as it would full on wreck them in a general election and while Huntsman has like 1% in the polls I've been saying for months that he is playing the long game of the 2016 elections and does not want this mark on his record.

jake_lex: themindiswatching: Doc Daneeka: Do the candidates even realize that all the debates accomplish at this point is to give Obama more material (out of their own mouths!) to use against them in the general campaign?

Obama and the DNC aren't even going to use any of it so they can "take the high ground". Problem for them is, the GOP has no interest in following them.

Obama's already said he may just show verbatim clips of the GOP debate in his ads. He might have been joking, but I think they're done trying to be nice.

I'm honestly not even sure if he was joking about showing the clips as they are. It would be a massive blow against them for the undecided vote. However this election will be a full on fight. I'd expect it to be a bit more mean version of Obama and Clinton during the primary.

GOP Debate schedule

November 22, 2011 8pm ET on CNN
Location: DAR Constitution Hall in Washington, DC
Sponsor: CNN, The Heritage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute
Participants: Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Huntsman, Paul, Perry, Romney, Santorum

December 10, 2011 9pm ET on ABC
Location: Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa
Sponsor: ABC News, ABC5/WOI-DT, The Des Moines Register and Republican Party of Iowa
Participants: TBD

December 15, 2011 9pm ET on Fox News
Location: Sioux City Convention Center in Sioux City, Iowa
Sponsor: Fox News and Republican Party of Iowa
Participants: TBD

December 19, 2011 Cancelled - Joined with Dec 10 ABC debate
Location: Iowa Public Television in Johnston, IA
Sponsor: The Des Moines Register, Iowa Public Television, PBS NEWSHOUR, Google and YouTube
Participants: TBD

January 7, 2012 9pm ET on ABC
Location: NH
Sponsor: ABC News and WMUR
Participants: TBD

January 8, 2012 9am ET on NBC (Yes, 9am)
Location: Chubb Theatre at the Capitol Center for the Arts in Concord, NH
Sponsor: NBC News, Facebook and the Union Leader
Participants: TBD

January 16, 2012 9pm ET on Fox News
Location: Myrtle Beach Convention Center in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina
Sponsor: Fox News and Republican Party of South Carolina
Participants: TBD

January 19, 2012 Air time TBD on CNN
Location: Charleston, SC
Sponsor: CNN and the Southern Republican Leadership Conference
Participants: TBD

January 23, 2012 Air time TBD on NBC
Location:University of South Florida in Tampa, Florida
Sponsor: The St. Petersburg Times, NBC News, the National Journal and the Florida Council of 100
Participants: TBD

January 26, 2012 Air time TBD on CNN
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Sponsor: CNN and Republican Party of Florida
Participants: TBD

February 22, 2012 8pm ET on CNN
Location: Mesa Arts Center in Mesa, Arizona
Sponsor: CNN and the Republican Party of Arizona
Participants: TBD

March 1, 2012 8pm ET on CNN
Location: Georgia
Sponsor: CNN and the Georgia Republican Party
Participants: TBD

March 5, 2012 Air time TBD on NBC
Location: Reagan Library in Simi Valley, CA
Sponsor: Reagan Library, NBC News and Politico
Participants: TBD

March 19, 2012 Air time TBD on PBS
Location: Portland, OR
Sponsor: Oregon Public Broadcasting, NPR, PBS, and The Washington Times
Participants: TBD

14 more to go

Wow, I start the stream and head right into the Santourm, yuck. They also have a weird Thanksgiving table setting.

I just tuned into the debate and watched Perry lie about adoption to same sex couples in the State of Texas. Gay couples can adopt in his state. You would think he would know his own laws.

coco ebert: Is it me or were there nowhere near this many debates in previous primary races? WTF is going on?

It's a numbers game. Somewhere in the many hours of derp there will be a usable soundbite or two they can fling at the Dems all next year.

coco ebert: Is it me or were there nowhere near this many debates in previous primary races? WTF is going on?

The new thing is to repeat derp as publicly as possible.

Woh, Bachhman on judicial issues is scary.

Sanic123: Woh, Bachhman on judicial issues is scary.

I need to revise this statement. They are all farking nuts and saying things that would cause total riots if they did it.

Santorum: I can one-up Newt, watch!

Nice, Newt and Santorum want to eliminate entire Court Districts just because they disagree with some judges' rulings.

I also hate the MegaChurch setting. This has a very weird feeling to it.

Wait, did he just say for everyone to stay seated and they'll take a five minute break, only for everyone in the room to immediately get up?