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(Forbes)   Think the zombie apocalypse is as bad as things can get? Any second now the global coffee supply is going run out. Submitter will be in his bunker brewing hoarded espresso   (forbes.com) divider line 128
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2011-11-19 02:13:34 PM
Hey Gary,

What sort of food is best for that? I was thinking rice, but it needs too much water. With most other things it's not obvious what to go with given that you have to balance cost, shelf life, nutritional value, volume, etc...
 
2011-11-19 02:14:25 PM

cowgirl toffee: jenlen: exvaxman: This may scare you just as badly - same thing with Chocolate with upcoming shortages.

I am much more worried about a chocolate shortage than a coffee shortage!

THIS!


I know. Image a future where everything is chocolate "flavored." Oh wait, we don't have to imagine...

www.candy.org

Hell, Hershey is already doing something to prepare for the chocolate scarce future. Have you seen the Air Delight candy it's making now? Same price! Less chocolate!
 
2011-11-19 02:14:38 PM

GaryPDX: Funny, I don't listen to any of them. I watch the History, Science and Discovery channels quite a bit. Our food system is tenuous at best, it's just good practice to be prepared. Did you know the average city only has 72 hours of food on the store shelves? We have earthquakes and volcanoes around here, if the system breaks down for whatever reason, I won't need to panic.


I probably have enough myself for a good part of a year if the family watches it - however there will be a lot of weird meals. Barrels are set out to capture rain water as well, as we have some decent filters for camping if need be. Several solar units that are always available for the smaller things/batteries/and battery size adapters for most everything.
 
2011-11-19 02:17:05 PM

taxandspend: Meh, Tea drinker here.
If coffee becomes too damn expensive you know some laboratory will come out with synthetic coffee for the masses to enjoy. And eventually it'll come in pill form.
[www.nextnature.net image 530x410]
Coffee...OF THE FUTURE!!!!

pics.drugstore.com
You rang?
 
2011-11-19 02:17:29 PM
After reading subby's headline.. I have to consider, isn't the ever dwindling supply of coffee going to START the Zombie Apoc?
Know when I broke the carafe on my old pot (and why my new one isn't glass), I was a vicious, grumbling zombie all the way to the store to get a new coffee pot.
 
2011-11-19 02:18:42 PM
People talk about the end of coffee as "apocalyptic," yet marijuana remains illegal. This is a mystery to me.
 
2011-11-19 02:21:26 PM
FIne, the pump in my Saeco stalled and blew the fuse anyways. As long as I can get black tea, I'm fine.
 
2011-11-19 02:23:06 PM
I see that Forbes decided their coffee futures weren't earning enough, time to inflame the markets!

/unless coffee plants have very specific day/night requirements for blooming, S. America, Mexico and SW USA have plenty of mountains
 
2011-11-19 02:23:55 PM
From Wiki:
Grain coffee and other substitutes can be made by roasting or decocting various organic substances.

Some ingredients used include: almond, acorn, asparagus, malted barley, beechnut, beetroot, carrot, chicory root, corn, cottonseed, dandelion root (see dandelion coffee), fig, boiled-down molasses, okra seed, pea, persimmon seed, potato peel,[2] rye, sassafras pits, sweet potato, wheat bran.

All I can say is YUK! The only coffee I can drink is cold steeped from this thing:
Link (new window)
I actually went on a year long attempt to find a coffee by roasting my own beans, etc. I do all sorts of tea right now.
 
2011-11-19 02:24:12 PM
Okay, and here's another thing -- that cup of coffee you buy at Dunkins or Starbucks or wherever? about 5 cents of that price you pay is related to the coffee grounds. All the rest of the price of that coffee is overhead and profit. So if the price of coffee triples, even with the gouging that all businesses will do in response, your cup of coffee will cost perhaps 50 cents more. Your wholesale club bag of 2.5 pounds of coffee that was 16 dollars? The actual cost of the coffee grounds (not the marketing, PR, packaging, etc) in that package may triple, but the cost of the package of coffee will go up maybe 4 or 5 bucks.

It's the same thing with wheat. A one-dollar loaf of bread has 5 cents worth of wheat in it. So don't panic, friends. Guzzle that coffee and enjoy every bit of it. Do you think that, should there be a true shortage, the producers would rather send it to buttfark egypt or the U.S.? They know the U.S. will pay three times more for it. That's why it's so great to be in a rich country! Talking about it is just tacky, though.
 
2011-11-19 02:25:42 PM

ecmoRandomNumbers: Buckney Gurre: SwiftFox: Most of those storing a year's worth of food don't do coffee.

What are they? Morons?

Mormons.

t3.gstatic.com
 
2011-11-19 02:25:51 PM
The solution, drink New Orleans Blend. Coffee will last longer.
 
2011-11-19 02:28:18 PM

taxandspend: cowgirl toffee: jenlen: exvaxman: ...


I know. Image a future where everything is chocolate "flavored." Oh wait, we don't have to imagine...


Oh my god. You must live in hell... a chocolate flavored Hersey hell.
 
2011-11-19 02:29:25 PM
This will not end well...
 
2011-11-19 02:34:16 PM
For every person that annoys me and lives to tell about it... thank Juan Valdez and his furry little donkey.
 
2011-11-19 02:43:56 PM
I just recently discovered how awesome a hot carmel latte from Dunkin is (no whip, yes to sugar). I have never drank hot drinks be it coffee, hot chocolate, or whatever.

I think I can still pull out of this latte thing before I'm full-on hooked. Should I?
 
2011-11-19 02:45:32 PM

cowgirl toffee: Oh my god. You must live in hell... a chocolate flavored Hersey hell.


Hershey can make good chocolate - it is just NOT what you normally see. Not really sold in grocery stores.

/has a computer controlled tempering machine
//buys different brands in bulk (25 lb bars)
/// has several women and a few men waiting for me to divorce to propose marriage over my chocolate skills
 
2011-11-19 02:45:49 PM

exvaxman: This may scare you just as badly - same thing with Chocolate with upcoming shortages.


Isn't this how the Union broke the Confederates? A coffee embargo? The chocolate thing just reminds me of the chocolate ration in 1984.
 
2011-11-19 02:48:15 PM

exvaxman: cowgirl toffee: Oh my god. You must live in hell... a chocolate flavored Hersey hell.

Hershey can make good chocolate - it is just NOT what you normally see. Not really sold in grocery stores.

/has a computer controlled tempering machine
//buys different brands in bulk (25 lb bars)
/// has several women and a few men waiting for me to divorce to propose marriage over my chocolate skills


Wasn't the Hershey's thing to do with a strike? Scabs were making the chocolate, and experienced workers were picketing. Hershey's chocolate started to get gritty and taste like shiat as a result. Some people were already refusing to buy the scab-made chocolate, but the drop in quality that was already becoming apparent drove away many customers in itself.
 
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2011-11-19 02:56:17 PM
i just got some west coast turn-arounds. the clerk said only to take 2 but i took the whole bottle.
 
2011-11-19 02:59:54 PM

sheilanagig: Wasn't the Hershey's thing to do with a strike? Scabs were making the chocolate, and experienced workers were picketing. Hershey's chocolate started to get gritty and taste like shiat as a result. Some people were already refusing to buy the scab-made chocolate, but the drop in quality that was already becoming apparent drove away many customers in itself.


This I do not know about - but several years ago they had a premium brand that "Hersheys" was printed very small on the label. It was very decent. Not like the standard soap they put out.

Funny story - years ago before Halloween season shipping the system Hershy's used to coordinate shipping and inventory took a major dump and Hershey's lost millions. An outfit I contracted for was told to come in and replace everything. ASAP after it was apparent their system was not going to be repaired. The lead on the program was explaining travel directions and I asked in a loud voice "You mean we have to take the "Hershey Highway" to get there?". Much loud laughter. I had to explain to the poor guy the joke later.
 
2011-11-19 03:08:43 PM

Rincewind53: GaryPDX: I may only have 1 year worth of food stored but I have 5 years worth of coffee beans vacuum sealed. It'll be like gold in the after times.

One of my favorite sorta-post-apocalyptic books (by Anne McCaffrey) involved human stranded on another planet making a guerrilla run back to Earth just to pick up coffee.

She clearly knows where people's priorities are.


Absolutely. I can't understand people who hoard gold in preparation for when shiat gets real bad. Gold has very little actual intrinsic value. What you should be hoarding: coffee, chocolate, cigarettes, alcohol and guns and bullets to protect your stash.
 
2011-11-19 03:12:37 PM

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: GaryPDX: I may only have 1 year worth of food stored...

Why am I not surprised.

The only three shows I've seen advocate/pitch for Armageddon food are Art Bell, Jim Baker, and Glenn Beck. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what kind of people buy safety seeds.


To be fair, there's nothing wrong or dumb about having emergency food on hand in case the solid organic waste collides with the aperture science rotary air circulation device.
 
2011-11-19 03:15:14 PM

exvaxman: From Wiki:
Grain coffee and other substitutes can be made by roasting or decocting various organic substances.

Some ingredients used include: almond, acorn, asparagus, malted barley, beechnut, beetroot, carrot, chicory root, corn, cottonseed, dandelion root (see dandelion coffee), fig, boiled-down molasses, okra seed, pea, persimmon seed, potato peel,[2] rye, sassafras pits, sweet potato, wheat bran.

All I can say is YUK! The only coffee I can drink is cold steeped from this thing:
Link (new window)
I actually went on a year long attempt to find a coffee by roasting my own beans, etc. I do all sorts of tea right now.


Is that thing basically a french press? That's what it looks like, anyways.
 
2011-11-19 03:24:58 PM
www.giftwrappedandgorgeous.co.uk

/Though I do love my coffee as much as life itself
 
2011-11-19 03:30:36 PM
I do love me a good cup of Lapsang Souchong. It has plenty of caffeine too.
 
2011-11-19 03:31:15 PM

natmar_76: Coffee is disgusting, so this news doesn't bother me.


Then you've only had rubbish coffee. Proper coffee is quite tasty and smooth, and can be drunk black, since you're getting the lovely esters and aromas from the natural oils and all. However, percolators pretty much boil it over and over and over, which destroy those tasty oils and leave behind only the nasty tannins that give it the icky bitterness. Coffee pots don't boil, but you still lose the oils in the filters, and it again gets bitter after sitting for hours in the pot on "warm."

A good french press and water at the right temperature make a wicked-tasty brew. I normally go for tea for sheer convenience (and multitude of flavors and varieties), but a good cup 'o joe is quite invigorating.

/not quite a coffee snob
//just a pleasant twit
 
2011-11-19 03:40:48 PM
Bah, who needs coffee when No-Doze exists. Just take 2 pills every 4 hours. You'll be twitchy, but awake. And about Day 4, the happy fluffy bunnies show up, and you start talking to the walls.

/And then have some Benadryl lying around for when you want to get back to a sane sleep schedule, or you're very likely to find your "sleep time" to be Noon- 8, or something equally inconvenient.
//Also, if your college professor makes all homework and projects due at 9 AM, drop the class immediately. You will NEVER be up at 9:00.
///Though sticking your subwoofer under your bed, and then making your alarm the cannons part of 1812 Overture works wonders for that.
////Even though it will make your roommate hate you.
 
2011-11-19 03:46:55 PM

TsukasaK: Is that thing basically a french press? That's what it looks like, anyways.


No - the one I have you put in the coffee, cold water, and let it drip and filter for 24 hours. No heat/pressing/pressure/etc.
Some people swear by it - I have an old friend/boss who thought he was a coffee gourmet that freaked after he had some from this unit (I bought him one since shipping my unit back & forth would have cost just as much). .
When I know people are coming over I will do coffee in this and they usually comment on how good it is.

I will say that this the only coffee I can drink - the taste of others is just not worth drinking to me.
I usually for a hot drink have tea or miso soup. So - take my advice with a huge grain of salt.
 
2011-11-19 03:48:53 PM
I throw myself on the mercy of the coffee court! I am a single parent! I get insomnia! When I want coffee, I need coffee! Please (sob, sob) I beg you, please spare me my coffee!
 
2011-11-19 03:51:59 PM
This doesn't bother me, I put a little bit of coffee in my cocoa but I can easily do without it. If it's caffeine people need they can get it somewhere else like pop or caffeine pills. And if the supply drops enough the price will skyrocket and lower demand. I foresee a significant reduction in the number of Starbucks worldwide.
 
2011-11-19 03:54:37 PM
With the amount of coffee I drink, a price change won't affect my drinking habits nor my budget much. I weep for my sister though. She practically has that stuff intraveinously.

/tea drinker
//will be really farked if dilmah goes under. Twinnings can go fark itself.
 
2011-11-19 03:59:48 PM
So what you're saying is that we've already passed Peak Coffee?
 
2011-11-19 04:09:53 PM

L33t Squirrel: natmar_76: Coffee is disgusting, so this news doesn't bother me.

Then you've only had rubbish coffee. Proper coffee is quite tasty and smooth, and can be drunk black, since you're getting the lovely esters and aromas from the natural oils and all. However, percolators pretty much boil it over and over and over, which destroy those tasty oils and leave behind only the nasty tannins that give it the icky bitterness. Coffee pots don't boil, but you still lose the oils in the filters, and it again gets bitter after sitting for hours in the pot on "warm."

A good french press and water at the right temperature make a wicked-tasty brew. I normally go for tea for sheer convenience (and multitude of flavors and varieties), but a good cup 'o joe is quite invigorating.

/not quite a coffee snob
//just a pleasant twit


There is nothing like a good quality coffee in a cafetiere. Add a pinch of salt to the brew and it comes out as smooth as honey. Coffee done right is a beauty to behold.
 
2011-11-19 04:17:04 PM

CygnusDarius: The end is... Zzzzzz...


Bahahaha!!!!
 
2011-11-19 04:19:49 PM

Donald_McRonald: So what you're saying is that we've already passed Peak Coffee?


I vote you +1 internet.
 
2011-11-19 04:25:48 PM

WhoIsNotInMyKitchen: GaryPDX: I may only have 1 year worth of food stored...

Why am I not surprised.

The only three shows I've seen advocate/pitch for Armageddon food are Art Bell, Jim Baker, and Glenn Beck. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about what kind of people buy safety seeds.


And I suppose you would rather count on other people to feed you and your family? That tells you everything you know about people who refuse to take care of their own.

At the very least own a rifle and a directory of the local Mormon ward. :-)
 
2011-11-19 04:29:46 PM

GaryPDX: I may only have 1 year worth of food stored but I have 5 years worth of coffee beans vacuum sealed. It'll be like gold in the after times.


I would do this as well but since I've been moving every darn year I've probably given away a years worth of food.
 
2011-11-19 04:34:35 PM

CapnBlues: People talk about the end of coffee as "apocalyptic," yet marijuana remains illegal. This is a mystery to me.


This.

I also don't understand the 1%. If they want to continue raping our pocketbooks, wouldn't it be easier if the masses were all high? They can get profits from selling weed and can get away with more.

/offtopic
//slashies.
 
2011-11-19 04:35:49 PM

leevis: . I foresee a significant reduction in the number of Starbucks worldwide.


Just as well. It's just a status symbol so people can brag about paying $5.00 for a single cup of joe
 
2011-11-19 04:49:24 PM
www.indifferentlyevil.com
 
2011-11-19 04:50:00 PM

sinschild: And I suppose you would rather count on other people to feed you and your family? That tells you everything you know about people who refuse to take care of their own.

At the very least own a rifle and a directory of the local Mormon ward. :-)


Yeah, except that won't solve the coffee or tea problem. As strict as Mormons are, I doubt they are allowed chocolate, or even hot cocoa. Besides, they have guns. If you can get past those, you've got food and ammo for a long time, but you still have to get past them first.
 
2011-11-19 05:30:45 PM
Zombies PFFFFT. I have my house prepared for an inevitable zombie attack. Already got my repeaters, flaming stumps, Gatling pea shooters, cattails, tall nuts, squashes, cherry bombs, melonpults, and enough sunflowers and sunshrooms to last a life time.

Am I cool?
 
2011-11-19 05:32:50 PM
Who cares about mildly flavored bitter water. Blech.
 
2011-11-19 05:35:48 PM

GaryPDX: theoneontheleft: Hey Gary,

What sort of food is best for that? I was thinking rice, but it needs too much water. With most other things it's not obvious what to go with given that you have to balance cost, shelf life, nutritional value, volume, etc...

Beans are good, high protein and carbs. Powdered potatoes and milk is good. Most of my stock is rice and beans. Water isn't that big a deal around here. I already have a rain capture system for watering my garden through the summer. An 1800 square foot roof will collect 500 gallons per inch of rain. A small UV system powered by a small solar panel will keep it potable.

Keeping a seed stock is just as important. The stocks will get me through a growing season. Just like the old days, spring gardens, canning, cisterns etc.


Nice. I'm trying to get together a cob house for myself and the husband as soon as we have the down payment on a lot somewhere. There's a lot to be said for building in some self-sufficiency.
 
2011-11-19 05:37:51 PM

exvaxman: Trading firm buys a billion in cocoa beans:
Link (new window)


Anthony Ward lost about a quarter of that investment, BTW. His net worth prior to the purchase was around $40M. That investment has lost $230M so far:

http://blackswaninsights.blogspot.com/2010/08/anthony-wards-sweet-too t h-has-cost-him.html
 
2011-11-19 05:39:12 PM
linky (new window)
/now with html win.
 
2011-11-19 05:48:45 PM
"Now I love my coffee. It's probably the only thing I cherish on this god-forsaken mudball called earth!"

www.wearysloth.com

/name that movie to win a prize!
//the prize is cursed
///but you get your choice of topping
////you get this idea...
 
2011-11-19 06:02:22 PM
So climate change in Colombia is causing coffee prices to rise yet the price of cocaine, also a product of Colombia, continues to plummet. Maybe the coffee farmers should consult with the coke farmers to find out how they're growing their plants in the rising temperatures of the 21st century.
 
2011-11-19 06:05:21 PM

jiesenPSD: Anthony Ward lost about a quarter of that investment, BTW. His net worth prior to the purchase was around $40M. That investment has lost $230M so far:


Wow - missed that. Thank you.
 
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