nice.

//some of them are.

Thanks to the first commercial being JLO, I think they have become the new VW Beatle. It will be a car for teenage girls, gay men, and 40 year old woman who want to appear hip.

tobcc: Thanks to the first commercial being JLO,

I have no idea what you're saying here. Is it related to the ad in the link?

They don't sell the cool models in the U.S.

GAT_00: No, the ads Fiat runs in this country are JLo driving a car

Ah. I guess I've never seen one of those. Thanks.

jehovahs witness protection: They don't sell the cool models in the U.S.



It's coming.

GAT_00: No, the ads Fiat runs in this country are JLo driving a car, which I'm sure she never does, back to her "home" in the ghetto.

This. She drives the newish Fiat into the Bronx while explaining that you may think the Bronx is scary and bad, but she likes it.

It's not a good ad for the Fiat, her, or the Bronx. They sucked all the cool out of that car in a 20-second spot. Only Droid ads are worse current ads.

The car itself is OK, a bit overpriced here, and technically superior to the original while losing most of the coolness. But, then, that describes the old New Beetle, too. Judging by the New New Beetle, it takes like 15 years for one of these reintroduced iconic cars to actually capitalize intelligently on the design strengths of the original.

But that's OK, because it means eventually BMW will produce a cool version of their lame retro roadster.

loonatic112358: UNC_Samurai: / or the Dacia Sandero

I read that in Richard Mays voice

Great News the Dacia Sandero......

Living in Omaha, I don't believe I'll see very many Fiats on the road. Hatches are the minority here. This area likes their trucks, crossovers and sedans. I think it'll be a product that sells better in larger cities.

There aren't many hatches offered in the US, and most of the ones that are offered are de-emphasized, or adamantly called something else. Manufacturers and dealers in the US are convinced that hatchbacks don't sell, even though referenced against their advertising index they outsell almost all other motor vehicle formats.

Mazda took a chance and advertised the 3 halfway aggressively, and they sold more than expected. Nevertheless, the logic has failed to penetrate.

If you watch a show like Top Gear, you'll see lots of hatchbacks that make most of the small cars sold in the US look like crap by comparison. And most of those hatches won't be sold here, chiefly because of the notion that Americans won't buy hatches.

Still, it's not like the car industry is overflowing with management genius, so . . . no surprises.

So are we going to get Lancia and Alfa Romeo or not, goddamn it?

RandomAxe: There aren't many hatches offered in the US, and most of the ones that are offered are de-emphasized, or adamantly called something else. Manufacturers and dealers in the US are convinced that hatchbacks don't sell, even though referenced against their advertising index they outsell almost all other motor vehicle formats.

Mazda took a chance and advertised the 3 halfway aggressively, and they sold more than expected. Nevertheless, the logic has failed to penetrate.

If you watch a show like Top Gear, you'll see lots of hatchbacks that make most of the small cars sold in the US look like crap by comparison. And most of those hatches won't be sold here, chiefly because of the notion that Americans won't buy hatches.

Still, it's not like the car industry is overflowing with management genius, so . . . no surprises.

I see this same logic when it comes to wagons also. Hatches and wagons are by far more practical in terms of utility when it comes to hauling around kids, groceries, tools, suitcases, etc. Yet the US auto industry is insistent on crossovers and sedans. I like a good sedan as much as the next guy, but most car buyers want something as a utility, not luxury or performance. A hatchback or wagon can capture all three of those characteristics though when designed properly.

my rock is shining bright...

FiendishFellow05: Alfa's are coming, supposedly, as a luxury tier above Chrysler.

Kick ass.

I don't believe there's any plan for Lancia's to show up in the US, though.

AHHH, horseshiat.

RandomAxe: GAT_00: No, the ads Fiat runs in this country are JLo driving a car, which I'm sure she never does, back to her "home" in the ghetto.

This. She drives the newish Fiat into the Bronx while explaining that you may think the Bronx is scary and bad, but she likes it.

It's not a good ad for the Fiat, her, or the Bronx. They sucked all the cool out of that car in a 20-second spot. Only Droid ads are worse current ads.

The car itself is OK, a bit overpriced here, and technically superior to the original while losing most of the coolness. But, then, that describes the old New Beetle, too. Judging by the New New Beetle, it takes like 15 years for one of these reintroduced iconic cars to actually capitalize intelligently on the design strengths of the original.

But that's OK, because it means eventually BMW will produce a cool version of their lame retro roadster.


The 328 Hommage is pretty cool. I can see how the Z4 might morph into something like it.

verbaltoxin: RandomAxe: There aren't many hatches offered in the US, and most of the ones that are offered are de-emphasized, or adamantly called something else. Manufacturers and dealers in the US are convinced that hatchbacks don't sell, even though referenced against their advertising index they outsell almost all other motor vehicle formats.

Mazda took a chance and advertised the 3 halfway aggressively, and they sold more than expected. Nevertheless, the logic has failed to penetrate.

If you watch a show like Top Gear, you'll see lots of hatchbacks that make most of the small cars sold in the US look like crap by comparison. And most of those hatches won't be sold here, chiefly because of the notion that Americans won't buy hatches.

Still, it's not like the car industry is overflowing with management genius, so . . . no surprises.

I see this same logic when it comes to wagons also. Hatches and wagons are by far more practical in terms of utility when it comes to hauling around kids, groceries, tools, suitcases, etc. Yet the US auto industry is insistent on crossovers and sedans. I like a good sedan as much as the next guy, but most car buyers want something as a utility, not luxury or performance. A hatchback or wagon can capture all three of those characteristics though when designed properly.

Hence why I bought a GTI...nice car, performs great, can haul tons of shiat, very comfortable and quiet, very well equipped, not too expensive either. Sweet car, and its a hatch.....and nobody understand why I bought it. They all think its a stupid little car. I don't get it.

I wonder if subby is confused and thinks this:



is a Fiat