Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

Wait, people realize that babies are expensive and hard to support if they or their spouses (or both) lose their jobs?

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

Same goes for Christian conservatives. Condoms are the Devil's foreskin.

Buh but better economic opportunity will cause the birth rate to drop!

That's why I don't have kids. My wife and I both have good jobs and could support a family, but in this economy that could change overnight. Too many people have been screwed to the wall when their careers evaporated, and it's tough to responsibly justify adding another dependent when there's still so much uncertainty.

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

This, my friends is a textbook example of having your cake and eating it too.

Liberals are bad because
A) they go on welfare and have kids.
B) they abort their fetuses.

Or liberals have discovered magic. They can support non-existent children with government handouts.

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

And the things that can be done to prevent it are anathema to Republicans. Just another racist talking point..

So it has nothing to do with getting away from "Abstinence Only" sex ed in schools.

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

Ah, there's the reason I have you marked in troll purple.

Why do you people feed the trolls? It only encourages them to breed.

RodneyToady: I'm actually skeptical, at least as far as the teen pregnancy rate being affected by the economy. Maybe early 20s, definitely late 20s-late 30s. But teens are loaded with hormones and are generally either poor or dependents... I don't think their kids are typically "planned," so anything that would affect intentional pregnancy would be mostly irrelevant to them, including the economy.

Many teens don't have a lot of spending cash right now because their parents just aren't handing out as much. This can often be traced back to economic concerns. Teens use their cash to impress potential mates through clothes, trinkets, cars, drugs, and lifestyles. True, some will mate anyway, but I'd expect a decrease there as well. It's tougher to impress a girl while wearing old clothes, using dated technology, and buying the cheaper food options.

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

Just to set the record straight, it is aWelfare myth that recipients have more children, there is actually no correlation between receiving welfare and your number of offspring. Plus, more liberals tend to reside in urban areas, which have low reproductive rates. So really, you should replace welfare liberal with conservative redneck and you might be right.

i do however wish there was some ethical to bribe people to not have children. The planet is horrifically overpopulated.

Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

That's some mighty fine trolling, Lou.

dethmagnetic: That's why I don't have kids. My wife and I both have good jobs and could support a family, but in this economy that could change overnight. Too many people have been screwed to the wall when their careers evaporated, and it's tough to responsibly justify adding another dependent when there's still so much uncertainty.

You sound like the yuppie couple from the beginning of Idiocracy. Meanwhile, Clevon is impregnating half the trailer park.

Gold Diggers have no one to get knocked up by when everyone is broke.

smimmy: dethmagnetic: That's why I don't have kids. My wife and I both have good jobs and could support a family, but in this economy that could change overnight. Too many people have been screwed to the wall when their careers evaporated, and it's tough to responsibly justify adding another dependent when there's still so much uncertainty.

You sound like the yuppie couple from the beginning of Idiocracy. Meanwhile, Clevon is impregnating half the trailer park.

I'm in a similar situation, I love not having kids because they're a pain in the ass. I get to go do awesome shiat and my wife's body maintains its awesome shape.

Ya mean evil empires are not a good place to raise kids.

I'm shocked

12349876: Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

And the things that can be done to prevent it are anathema to Republicans. Just another racist talking point..

You mean like not farking? If you can't afford your own abortions, you can't afford to fark.

Some of us republicans took a big hit so that you could have legalized abortion. Given your unwillingness to take advantage of it so you can hit us with the bill with the kid makes us think that might not have been a wise idea.

/republican who is very pro birth control and pro death
//kill the babies, kill the criminals

beta_plus: You mean like not farking? If you can't afford your own abortions, you can't afford to fark.

Some of us republicans took a big hit so that you could have legalized abortion. Given your unwillingness to take advantage of it so you can hit us with the bill with the kid makes us think that might not have been a wise idea.

There is no such thing as too poor to fark, it is part of our basic drives that makes us human. And I don't know who you are referring to, the whole point of the article is that people are taking advantage of birth control and abortion, (not stated in the article, but this is especially true of liberals and urbanites). The whole welfare recipients have more children nonsense is a myth.

If some people aren't taking advantage of the birth control options out there, it is because they are likely christian conservatives who vote Republican and thus have children because of their religious/moral beliefs, so you are seeing a problem you are going to have to talk to your own about that.

Good. We need far less people in the world.

I can only leave you with this.... India and China before high tech and factories.

People will breed until the food runs out. Actually a little longer.

You mean people are resistant to adding a huge expense to their monthly budget when their wages are stagnant, falling, or non-existent?

USAans Y U no into economy?

Dracolich: RodneyToady: I'm actually skeptical, at least as far as the teen pregnancy rate being affected by the economy. Maybe early 20s, definitely late 20s-late 30s. But teens are loaded with hormones and are generally either poor or dependents... I don't think their kids are typically "planned," so anything that would affect intentional pregnancy would be mostly irrelevant to them, including the economy.

Many teens don't have a lot of spending cash right now because their parents just aren't handing out as much. This can often be traced back to economic concerns. Teens use their cash to impress potential mates through clothes, trinkets, cars, drugs, and lifestyles. True, some will mate anyway, but I'd expect a decrease there as well. It's tougher to impress a girl while wearing old clothes, using dated technology, and buying the cheaper food options.

I'll add more to that hypothesis

It's much harder to fark when your parent is home and not at work. Teens may find ways to sneak off and fark, but it's much easier when your parent is employed, and especially in a good economy when very low unemployment rates lead to a lot of demands for overtime.

Ed Willy: Dracolich: RodneyToady: I'm actually skeptical, at least as far as the teen pregnancy rate being affected by the economy. Maybe early 20s, definitely late 20s-late 30s. But teens are loaded with hormones and are generally either poor or dependents... I don't think their kids are typically "planned," so anything that would affect intentional pregnancy would be mostly irrelevant to them, including the economy.

Many teens don't have a lot of spending cash right now because their parents just aren't handing out as much. This can often be traced back to economic concerns. Teens use their cash to impress potential mates through clothes, trinkets, cars, drugs, and lifestyles. True, some will mate anyway, but I'd expect a decrease there as well. It's tougher to impress a girl while wearing old clothes, using dated technology, and buying the cheaper food options.

I'll add more to that hypothesis

It's much harder to fark when your parent is home and not at work. Teens may find ways to sneak off and fark, but it's much easier when your parent is employed, and especially in a good economy when very low unemployment rates lead to a lot of demands for overtime.

and on the flip side, when your parent is home and not working, they are farking.

Sounds good to me.

apeiron242: i do however wish there was some ethical to bribe people to not have children. The planet is horrifically overpopulated.

Well, you know, there are other ways to bring down the population...

..ha..

..hahaha...

...MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAA! BUUUURRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

The current economic recession is being caused by the gap after the boomers and the fact that boomers didn't breed at the same population swelling rate as their parents.

There have been various reasons why fertility went down and average age at first pregnancy went up. Now that the leading edge of boomers are trying to cash in their retirements in large numbers has devalued everyone's assets.

There was supposed to be another rank of people right after the boomers in enough size and collective wealth to buy up the assets. But that gen-x was smaller.

Gen-y just doesn't care anymore.

You boomers built up a generation of assets where all average people could afford were stocks that never paid dividends. Then you wanted incomes, you sold off the inflated stocks to buy bonds. Then the bonds got inflated and overvalued and many crashed so you bought gold.

Somewhere in the middle you got some of gen-x to buy your houses, and then you expected gen-y to join in the same. But guess what... we can't buy your houses because you screwed up the stocks that would have built up the companies to hire us, then you screwed up the bonds that could have financed our houses.

What makes you think we'll ever buy your gold?

Guidette Frankentits: Liberals are bad because
A) they go on welfare and have kids.
B) they abort their fetuses.
Or liberals have discovered magic. They can support non-existent children with government handouts.

I have lots of kids, then claim them on my taxes after I put them up for adoption. Then I take in foster kids and get paid for them too.
That's my story--not one of my kids was sold. Because that's illegal.

Anal.

Can't believe it took this long to mention it.

wildcardjack: The current economic recession is being caused by the gap after the boomers and the fact that boomers didn't breed at the same population swelling rate as their parents.

There have been various reasons why fertility went down and average age at first pregnancy went up. Now that the leading edge of boomers are trying to cash in their retirements in large numbers has devalued everyone's assets.

There was supposed to be another rank of people right after the boomers in enough size and collective wealth to buy up the assets. But that gen-x was smaller.

Gen-y just doesn't care anymore.

You boomers built up a generation of assets where all average people could afford were stocks that never paid dividends. Then you wanted incomes, you sold off the inflated stocks to buy bonds. Then the bonds got inflated and overvalued and many crashed so you bought gold.

Somewhere in the middle you got some of gen-x to buy your houses, and then you expected gen-y to join in the same. But guess what... we can't buy your houses because you screwed up the stocks that would have built up the companies to hire us, then you screwed up the bonds that could have financed our houses.

What makes you think we'll ever buy your gold?

What makes you think we care?

/Dayyyym...Generation X, Next, or whatever the hell you call it, have sooooo much to learn.

//But you never will.

verbaltoxin: Nemo's Brother: <stupidity deleted>

Ah, there's the reason I have you marked in troll purple.

I prefer the button.

D) Granny Panties with a skid mark.

I just wish everyone would use ages instead of generations. Because everyone has a different opinion of what 'generation x' means or what generation y means. Unless there is a definitive guide someone can link me?

gadian: You know, there is never a "right" time to have kids. If you're waiting for the perfect opportunity, it will never come. There will always be uncertainty and problems. If you want them and have a reasonable idea of what you're getting into, you just have to take the plunge. It will work out.

But! You forget the first rule of having a babies. When you are have with the lady, and she has NOT gone on with carnations, it is more possibl to if she has with any other man or. But! If you have gone with a for a week or more, the emocony can imfluence you to with maybe some BEEJ or in other areas. So! Think if a baby will want to within 9 months, and nobody can look that far into their future of finances and see if the things will be prosperous. Certsainly we can't all just be rich in 9 month and I have no way of knowing if the Presidenmt will even keep jobs on our priority lists so if you have a lot of wealths then you should have more kids because with the prices of stuff so low you can raise your kids cheaper than when the prices are real high. less kids means diaper supply goes up and that means prices goes down - it is simply economics 101

Remember to spay and neuter your teenagers!

Gwyrddu: beta_plus: You mean like not farking? If you can't afford your own abortions, you can't afford to fark.

Some of us republicans took a big hit so that you could have legalized abortion. Given your unwillingness to take advantage of it so you can hit us with the bill with the kid makes us think that might not have been a wise idea.

There is no such thing as too poor to fark, it is part of our basic drives that makes us human. And I don't know who you are referring to, the whole point of the article is that people are taking advantage of birth control and abortion, (not stated in the article, but this is especially true of liberals and urbanites). The whole welfare recipients have more children nonsense is a myth.

If some people aren't taking advantage of the birth control options out there, it is because they are likely christian conservatives who vote Republican and thus have children because of their religious/moral beliefs, so you are seeing a problem you are going to have to talk to your own about that.

Go to average trailer park or inner city slum such as South Boston and then say that to me w/a straight face.

One involved a statistic called the total fertility rate. In essence, it tells how many children a woman can be expected to have if current birth rates continue. That figure was 1.9 children last year. In most years, it's more like 2.1.

I hope Maury Povich is aware of these trends.

beta_plus: Go to average trailer park or inner city slum such as South Boston and then say that to me w/a straight face.

I grew up a stone's throw away from projects and slums. I don't need to visit those places because I lived next to them most of my life. My experience backs up what the statistics say, poor urban dwellers aren't having more children than average.

We could afford kids but I'm happier without them. I can fly without fear, we can live downtown without worrying about schools and I can afford to drive a 6spd and never worry about kid seats. Life is pretty awesome and if we decide later in life we can always adopt some asian kid & mrs. detroitdoesntsuckthatbad will keep her figure.

/DINK

AirForceVet: Nemo's Brother: Unless you're a welfare liberal. Then you breed despite your ability to care for them.

You've never been to Utah, have you?

big fan of the vasectomy