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(ESPN) Silly "Stafford was fined $7,500 for 'grabbing an opponent by the helmet opening.' Also, Bears receiver Earl Bennett was fined $10,000 for a uniform violation; he wore dominantly orange shoes"   (espn.go.com) divider line 80
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2011-11-19 08:35:32 AM
Player $afety
 
2011-11-19 08:44:27 AM
csb
My father used to do frequency coordination for a NFL team. There was a Rep from the NFL that sat next to us and his job was to make sure everything was kosher during the game. One thing he did was write down the names of players that had short sleeves on. He said that they could have sleeves that went to the wrists or couldn't be seen at all. $1k a pop (this was a decade ago).
/csb

The NFL is ridiculous with their fines.
 
2011-11-19 08:47:19 AM
No. Fun. League.
 
2011-11-19 08:55:49 AM
Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.
 
2011-11-19 09:03:42 AM
Dear NFL,
If you want money so badly, there are better ways to go about it than fining your own players every time they wear inappropriate shoes. Have you thought of toning it down? You want to really get money, how about fining that team in Washington fans every week until they get a nickname that is not a racial slur? No one will blame you for that. Much.
 
2011-11-19 09:04:05 AM
Ho do you grab an opening?
 
2011-11-19 09:05:13 AM
Stafford should of been ejected from the game for that.
Or no fines to the bear as Matt kinda of had it coming to him after that.
 
2011-11-19 09:07:54 AM
Also given the Bears were wearing their orange alternate jerseys, why not let him wear orange shoes?
 
182 [TotalFark]
2011-11-19 09:14:32 AM
WhyteRaven74: Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.

not really. stafford isn't a repeat offender....a small fine was in order. the guy with the shoes is a repeat offender and was warned by the league before the game the previous fine would be doubled. eventually, the league will start punishing the bears by in game penalties.
 
2011-11-19 09:22:00 AM
182: eventually, the league will start punishing the bears by in game penalties.

The shoe thing is just dumb, let players wear whatever color shoes they want. Grabbing someone by the helmet and twisting their head around is damn dangerous. That he's not a repeat offender is irrelevant, you do something that dangerous you should be getting a very hefty fine, and if you didn't get tossed from the game, then you sit a game or two.
 
2011-11-19 09:25:22 AM
Should have said he was wearing orange shoes for Testicle Cancer Awareness Month.
 
2011-11-19 09:26:03 AM
BiffDangler: Ho do you grab an opening?

That's what I was thinking. It's empty space.
 
2011-11-19 09:27:31 AM
As a Bears fan, I'm not overly worried about this. The shoe thing is completely retarded, but that's the NFL and has been for a long time. Stafford should have been run from the game, but at some point soon, someone will probably kill him and then we'll call it even. And though it appears he did not get fined, Lance Briggs' hit on Calvin Johnson would have been worth every penny, regardless of the amount.
 
2011-11-19 09:30:20 AM
Have I mentioned how much I hate Roger Goodell today?
 
2011-11-19 09:31:02 AM
skinink: Should have said he was wearing orange shoes for Testicle Cancer Awareness Month.

He should tell the league he's wearing to raise cranial rectal impaction awareness, because the people in the NFL offices are clearly suffering from it.
 
2011-11-19 09:39:02 AM
rjakobi: Dear NFL,
If you want money so badly, there are better ways to go about it than fining your own players every time they wear inappropriate shoes. Have you thought of toning it down? You want to really get money, how about fining that team in Washington fans every week until they get a nickname that is not a racial slur? No one will blame you for that. Much.


While I'm not defending the NFL on their means of handing out fines (although, if you want a certain product you do have to maintain some level of discipline), all NFL fines go to charity so it's not like they're doing this to pad Der Fuhrer Goodell's pockets.
 
2011-11-19 10:01:26 AM
psychomjm: all NFL fines go to charity

To be fair, if they send a lot of their money to the United Way, part of it isn't really going to a charitable cause. Same with Susan Komen.
 
182 [TotalFark]
2011-11-19 10:15:06 AM
WhyteRaven74: 182: eventually, the league will start punishing the bears by in game penalties.

The shoe thing is just dumb, let players wear whatever color shoes they want. Grabbing someone by the helmet and twisting their head around is damn dangerous. That he's not a repeat offender is irrelevant, you do something that dangerous you should be getting a very hefty fine, and if you didn't get tossed from the game, then you sit a game or two.


football intrinsically a dangerous sport....what he did was more unsportsmanlike that dangerous. any kid who has played pop warner could tell you that.

as for the dude with the shoes, he's just plain belligerent and doesn't want to follow the rules. ever work some place with a uniform policy?
 
2011-11-19 10:29:46 AM
l.yimg.com

If you're wearing an orange uniform it looks good. Give them to everybody. Problem solved.
 
2011-11-19 10:30:08 AM
The NFL is very careful about their image, they don't want their fans thinking they employ a bunch of thugs and hoods. They can't control stabbings, shootings and assaults, but they can control their on-field image. It must be working, because most teams sell tickets as quick as they can print them.
 
2011-11-19 10:32:17 AM
The Stafford fine should definately have been higher. The League shouldn't be sending the message that how you look on the field > how you play the game. If they want to fine the guy for a uniform violation, I'm fine with it, but no way in hell should it be more than an unsportsmanlike fine. Repeat offender or not.
 
2011-11-19 10:33:35 AM
The moral of the story...trying to hurt someone is bad, but upsetting the fashion police will cost you dearly.
 
2011-11-19 10:51:33 AM
rjakobi: Dear NFL,
If you want money so badly, there are better ways to go about it than fining your own players every time they wear inappropriate shoes. Have you thought of toning it down? You want to really get money, how about fining that team in Washington fans every week until they get a nickname that is not a racial slur? No one will blame you for that. Much.


They donate the fines to charity.

But the uniform fines being the same scale as safety fines IS about money. The revenue from official NFL apparel.
 
2011-11-19 11:19:39 AM
I think I read somewhere these fines are also tax deductible as either donations to charity or a business expense.
 
2011-11-19 11:20:17 AM
182: WhyteRaven74: 182: eventually, the league will start punishing the bears by in game penalties.

The shoe thing is just dumb, let players wear whatever color shoes they want. Grabbing someone by the helmet and twisting their head around is damn dangerous. That he's not a repeat offender is irrelevant, you do something that dangerous you should be getting a very hefty fine, and if you didn't get tossed from the game, then you sit a game or two.

football intrinsically a dangerous sport....what he did was more unsportsmanlike that dangerous. any kid who has played pop warner could tell you that.

as for the dude with the shoes, he's just plain belligerent and doesn't want to follow the rules. ever work some place with a uniform policy?


I don't think to many people are arguing the uniform policy, what they do find stupid is that he is being fined more for a uniform violation than somebody who violated a player safety rule. And yes using the facemask or an opening to tackle somebody is dangerous because you tend to twist their head to bring them down.
 
2011-11-19 11:21:06 AM
I can understand uniformity for the product, but when they wouldn't let Peyton Manning wear black high-tops to honor Unitas after he died, well, you gotta be sh*ttin' me.
 
2011-11-19 11:25:56 AM
How much does the league Make in fines a year?
 
2011-11-19 11:27:01 AM
iron_city_ap: The Stafford fine should definately have been higher. The League shouldn't be sending the message that how you look on the field > how you play the game. If they want to fine the guy for a uniform violation, I'm fine with it, but no way in hell should it be more than an unsportsmanlike fine. Repeat offender or not.

Basically, the league has told Bennett that the fine will go up $5k per week if he continues to wear the orange shoes. Link (new window) So it could be argued that while Stafford's play was dangerous it was a heat of the moment thing, Bennett's transgression was premeditated and therefore worthy of a larger fine.

That said, since Stafford is making about 16 times as much money as Bennett, it could also be argued that fines should be based on a player's salary rather than a fixed amount.
 
2011-11-19 11:32:58 AM
Dear god!

Orange Shoes?

After Labor Day?!?

/thisisoutrage.jpg
 
2011-11-19 11:36:17 AM
Wadded Beef: I can understand uniformity for the product, but when they wouldn't let Peyton Manning wear black high-tops to honor Unitas after he died, well, you gotta be sh*ttin' me.

This is the one that continues to piss me off:

Link (new window)

/Baltimoron.
//Big fan of Unitas.
///Unitas was no Pat Tillman.
 
2011-11-19 11:40:22 AM
What Stafford did was dirty. I'm sure he just wants to fit in with the rest of the Lions, but a quarterback should be above that.
 
2011-11-19 11:55:00 AM
What a joke. No penalty on either the Suh dirty head tackle, or on Staffords dirty face mask. After reviewing the play you would think they would be able to see how dangerous of a play that was. What a poor sport, you would think they would want to discourage that kind of poor-sport play. The orange shoes is laughable but how do they fine the guy who almost got his head ripped off more than the guy who could have ended his season? Was he supposed to just let that happen? This why I prefer hockey.
 
2011-11-19 11:55:47 AM
laststarfighter: I think I read somewhere these fines are also tax deductible as either donations to charity or a business expense.

So the same as when anybody else donates to charity then?
 
2011-11-19 11:55:55 AM
puffy999

By part, you mean "most", right?

HOW many chapters of the United Way were under investigation?

I refuse to support the United Way or the Susan G. Komen Foundation for those very reasons.
 
2011-11-19 11:59:38 AM
iron_city_ap: The Stafford fine should definately have been higher. The League shouldn't be sending the message that how you look on the field > how you play the game. If they want to fine the guy for a uniform violation, I'm fine with it, but no way in hell should it be more than an unsportsmanlike fine. Repeat offender or not.

The fine is at the right level; $7,500 is a nothing fine for most NFL players, akin to tossing your pocket change into a jar for swearing, but it's a good minimum. The repeat offenses is where the money starts to be felt - a single $7,500 isn't going to cause many NFL players to wince, but you toss on another $10,000 for a second, then a $15,000 for a third... suddenly you're looking at $32,000 in fines. That's when it starts to affect their bottom line. (I wonder if these fines are tax-deductible, if they go to charity?)

What should have happened is that Stafford should have been flagged on the play - the fact that it wasn't flagged is more of the problem than the amount of the fine. The League should sit down with the Ref's and explain that they have to call those, no matter who the player is. As a Lion's fan, I was annoyed that Stafford wasn't flagged - was also a bit miffed at some of the flags on Chicago that seemed to be aimed at telling Chicago to calm the fark down, rather than for any actual infractions.

/Go Lions!
//Might be time to bench Stafford to send him a message - stupid Pick-6's like the first two in the 3rd Quarter deserve a benching.
 
2011-11-19 12:03:32 PM
Stafford had a terrible game, but after that he's totally won me over.

I hope the guy plays for the next 10-15 years for the Lions.
 
2011-11-19 12:06:43 PM
Stafford shouldn't have been playing anyways with his finger broken.
 
2011-11-19 12:17:25 PM
Techhell: The fine is at the right level; $7,500 is a nothing fine for most NFL players, akin to tossing your pocket change into a jar for swearing, but it's a good minimum

You obviously never heard any players talk about fines. The average NFL player gets nauseous when they get hit with fines.
 
2011-11-19 12:25:18 PM
WhyteRaven74: Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.

At the very least the guy who hit him back shouldn't get DOUBLE the fine (and ejected) this "star protection system" BS has got to go. You Lace up your pads, you take the same farking risks as everyone else out there
 
2011-11-19 12:25:39 PM
Wearing orange shoes is much worse than causing spinal injury, by grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head off?

/second occurrences or not, shoes matched fine and they didn't say Fark you on them or any other such thing.
 
2011-11-19 12:58:31 PM
rjakobi: Dear NFL,
If you want money so badly, there are better ways to go about it than fining your own players every time they wear inappropriate shoes. Have you thought of toning it down? You want to really get money, how about fining that team in Washington fans every week until they get a nickname that is not a racial slur? No one will blame you for that. Much.


Why should we fans be fined? Aren't we punished enough by having Daniel Snyder as an owner?

/Actually really surprised Danny Boy hasn't changed the name
//Not because he is sympathetic, people would have to buy new jerseys, hats, etc
 
2011-11-19 01:19:30 PM
Magorn: WhyteRaven74: Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.

At the very least the guy who hit him back shouldn't get DOUBLE the fine (and ejected) this "star protection system" BS has got to go. You Lace up your pads, you take the same farking risks as everyone else out there


Stafford made a stupid, dangerous play during the game. He should have gotten penalized and he did get fined. Moore hit a player after the whistle when not making a play on the ball. The NFL has never allowed that sort of thing, and I don't think it has much to do with the fact that the player he hit was Stafford.
 
2011-11-19 01:25:26 PM
All I care about is that the Bears win the wildcard spot over the Lions when the regular season ends.
 
2011-11-19 01:52:29 PM
What Stafford did was purely a douchebag move born out of frustration. Take your ass whooping like a man.

As for the shoes, I'm guessing he's getting plenty of money to wear them.
 
2011-11-19 02:03:51 PM
WhyteRaven74: Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.

The NFL can't say they didn't have a clear view. I saw the reply just fine at home. The Lions might grow up, but looking at their Coach and seeing his antics. I doubt
 
2011-11-19 02:14:32 PM
It's brand-control. If every player got their own gear then fans would only buy that players gear, from an outlet that wasn't the NFL, which would cost the NFL billions in lost revenue over time. Basic business principles here, move along.
 
2011-11-19 02:16:46 PM
There should be a weekly $10,000 dollar fine for receiving the Jake.
 
2011-11-19 03:19:21 PM
WhyteRaven74: Stafford should have a lot bigger fine than that, grabbing someone's helmet and twisting their head around has to carry a very stiff fine and a suspension wouldn't be bad either.

Yeah, but he's a QB, so...he could get away with murder and be fined no more than 30k, tops.
 
2011-11-19 03:24:26 PM
With the orange shoes, it's all about control. You wouldn't want players becoming recognizable - in the NFL it's not supposed to be all about the players like, say, the NBA. They're covered up as much as possible, as indistinguishable as possible, and any type of individuality is frowned upon.

Maintaining control is far more important than player safety to the NFL (and all leagues).

I know in the AFL they fine $50/game for uniform violations...that may not seem like much until you realize they're getting paid $400/game.
 
2011-11-19 04:50:53 PM
I wonder if Tebow would have been fined at all.
 
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