I thought Jake Lloyd was slated to play Ender. Has this changed?

2wolves: Rule #1: No gays allowed.

Alvin the Maker would be a better movie.

Seconded. (Even though the Alvin Maker series is just a fantasized retelling of the life of Mormon founder Joseph Smith, I have a soft spot for the series.)

wee: I've read many hundreds of sci-fi novels and Ender's Game is terrible. Orson Scott Card is also a tool.

Make a farking movie based on Steakley's Armor already! Or something from Reynolds, or Ian Banks...

How about the forever war?

Uchiha_Cycliste: How about the forever war?

Good, quick military SF read. I heartily recommend it.

Relatively Obscure: Uchiha_Cycliste: wee: I've read many hundreds of sci-fi novels and Ender's Game is terrible. Orson Scott Card is also a tool.

Make a farking movie based on Steakley's Armor already! Or something from Reynolds, or Ian Banks...

How about the forever war?


I kind of liked the concept of that book, but the pacing of it--though given the theme, it may well have been fully intentional--felt off to me. And I thought the end was weak.

I know what you mean about the ending, but there really was no good way to end it. In light of that I kinda liked the happy-go-lucky Disney ending. Keep the concept and Mandela and expand upon it as necessary to make a great movie. I think everything you need is there, just don't do a page by page re-telling.

Actual Farking: Mugato: So what is that like a gay porno or something?

Well buggers are the enemy and there is an intense shower scene with soapy prepubescent boys, so maybe it should be called Touched.

Now if THAT isn't humorously misleading I don't know what is =P

Harry Potter was pretty well done, all things considered.

Don't leave me in suspense: who has been selected to play Ender's brother and sister? Since that particular subplot goes on interminably, I have a right to know which two actors are going to bore me to tears doing it.

/give me two battle room sequences, a fleet command sequence, the climax, and the epilogue and keep it to a tidy 45 minutes. Goddamn, that book was repetitive and boring.

Does Harry Potter start sucking unbelievably bad during the third installment?

If not, then it's not similar.

(Related. Or related enough, anyway.)

/Also have an inscribed first edition of Ender's Game, even though it didn't blow me away.

Uzzah: Don't leave me in suspense: who has been selected to play Ender's brother and sister? Since that particular subplot goes on interminably, I have a right to know which two actors are going to bore me to tears doing it.

/give me two battle room sequences, a fleet command sequence, the climax, and the epilogue and keep it to a tidy 45 minutes. Goddamn, that book was repetitive and boring.

I wan't Ender's Shadow as the sequel.

\fark Xenophobe.

quickdraw: Harry Potter became what it is because she described a world that people want to be in.

I don't want to live in that world. Unless the world consists of Hermione's panties.

Lord Dimwit: Banks. Banks! Banks!!
/Banks.

I don't see any Culture novels translating into cinema.
A 3-season TV show, hell yeah.

0Icky0: I don't want to live in that world. Unless the world consists of Hermione's panties.

This.

And I also want a John Williams soundtrack to my life.

/and an invisibility cloak

Ender's Game should be animated, the dream would be for Pixar to nut-up and do a PG-13 movie for it, but that could never happen. I worry that battleroom scenes will look cheese if it's not animated.

0Icky0: quickdraw: Harry Potter became what it is because she described a world that people want to be in.

I don't want to live in that world. Unless the world consists of Hermione's panties.

Fine. After I'm done banging Hermione, I'll save you her panties.

BroVinny: I thought Jake Lloyd was slated to play Ender. Has this changed?



No that is definitely still happening.

Uzzah: Don't leave me in suspense: who has been selected to play Ender's brother and sister? Since that particular subplot goes on interminably, I have a right to know which two actors are going to bore me to tears doing it.

/give me two battle room sequences, a fleet command sequence, the climax, and the epilogue and keep it to a tidy 45 minutes. Goddamn, that book was repetitive and boring.

Have you read the original Ender's Game short story, before Card novelized it? It's in one of his short story collections.


BroVinny: 2wolves: Rule #1: No gays allowed.

Alvin the Maker would be a better movie.

Seconded. (Even though the Alvin Maker series is just a fantasized retelling of the life of Mormon founder Joseph Smith, I have a soft spot for the series.)

THIS! A fantasy without a single elf, dwarf, dragon, or hobbit in sight, let alone færies, etc.! No wizards, either, in the usual sense of the word.

It's also a very nifty alternate history of 1800s North America. Main divergence point: "folk" magic works. England, being under the theocratic rule of Lord Protector Oliver Cromwell, with the King exiled to south-east America, did not die young as he did in reality, because unknown to him (anyone with pseudo-magical "knacks" [most "knacks" actually appear to be more psionic than truly magical, e.g. "sparks" are pyrokinetics, "torches" are clairvoyants / precognitives / limited telepaths, etc.] being seen as accursed and either executed or exiled to America), at least one of his physicians actually had a pseudo-magical healing knack, which saved Cromwell's life. Because of this, the history of England and thus North America were drastically changed, and other European nations and colonies also had a different history.

Some key differences, all resulting from this:

• The USA proper was originally only the colonies-turned-States between, but not including, New England (which remains loyal to Cromwell's Lord Protectorship, and likewise persecutes those with knacks or otherwise magic users) and Appalachee (Appalachia). The colonies south of Appalachee formed the Crown Colonies, where the King of England was exiled to, and from where he rules. They've kept African slavery. The USA and Crown Colonies have since expanded westward to, but not past, the Mississippi during the series, for reasons described therein (especially in the second book of the series).

• Span conquered southern Louisiana, renaming it "Nueva Barcelona." Its capital is the former New Orleans, also renamed Nueva Barcelona.

• The Spanish rulers of Mexico were overthrown by the Mexica (Aztec) Indians, who use contemporary weapons but have continued their culture, including mass human sacrifice.

• In general, Indian nations have done somewhat better than they did in reality, partly due to there not being one dominating Anglo/European-culture nation in North America, and partly due to their own magical abilities (instead of "knacks," they have a more nature-based folk magic), and as a result, Indian names for their own tribes and the physical features of the land, and of certain States and territories, weren't Anglicized or otherwise Europized (is that a word?) anywhere near as much as in reality. The Mississippi River is called the "Mizzippy," for instance. The Iroquois tribe (which has adopted European-style culture and lost their nature magic as a result) are called the "Irrakwa." The Ohio River and the State of Ohio are both called "Hio," and so on. Some are practically unrecognizable: the Illinois River is called the "Noisy River," and the State (originally territory as of the start of the series) of Illinois is called "Wobbish."

aren't there way more ender's books than harry potter books?

i want to see ender throw the kid that wa hitting him in the shuttle kill another kid and be the ender i read about in the dam book

also if they make second movie stick to the book enders shadow i want to see them make beans past didnt get to read the book before i graduated the high school.

mr smart the great: i want to see ender throw the kid that wa hitting him in the shuttle kill another kid and be the ender i read about in the dam book

also if they make second movie stick to the book enders shadow i want to see them make beans past didnt get to read the book before i graduated the high school.

You read that book?

ferro_man: aren't there way more ender's books than harry potter books?

I count 8 or 9 off the top of my head. I think the original trilogy went to 6, and there were 2 or 3 shadow books.

Uchiha_Cycliste: ferro_man: aren't there way more ender's books than harry potter books?

I count 8 or 9 off the top of my head. I think the original trilogy went to 6, and there were 2 or 3 shadow books.

8 total, unless you count absurdly dumb or new ones no one has read.
Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind

Ender's Shadow
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant

I love the series. Yes both shadow and speaker. I'm excited, but I don't want to get my hopes up.
I hope it sells well because I want it to be like a bandaid. They'll have to make sequals, and like harry potter, they have to pump them out quick to keep up with the actors aging. That's if they decide to even use the shadow series, but it would be hard to explain

*spoiler*

Bean showing up as a giant with his kids randomly out of nowhere without them.

*end spoiler*

Before some troll decides to call me out for being a card fan. I get the hate and lack of understanding for what he writes. I happened to be raised in a mormon household so I'm very much in sync with his books from a cultural view.

/worthing saga
//m night shamwowalon style

I met Card once while working a craft show in Greensboro, he bought $200 worth of pottery from me and paid by check. Didn't know who he was until I read the name on the check and said, "Are you that..." he interrupted "Yes I am." I responded "Nice to meet you, I haven't read any of you books but they are on my list," he smiled and walked away without saying anything else. I tried to read Ender's but couldn't get past twenty pages before being bored. Then I got internets and found out he was a wackadoo. Then I posted this on Fark.
/csb

Some books just can't be translated properly into film. Ender's Game is one of them. The only way I could see it working would be as an animated film.

I went to a signing by Card at a Borders once. I was the absolute last person in line. He seemed like a decent enough guy. Later, I found out he was Mormon. The homecoming series made all sorts of sense to me then. I was fairly young when I read them, and remember very clearly thinking that there was a damned interesting story buried somewhere in all the preachy filler.

VTGremlin: Uchiha_Cycliste: ferro_man: aren't there way more ender's books than harry potter books?

I count 8 or 9 off the top of my head. I think the original trilogy went to 6, and there were 2 or 3 shadow books.

8 total, unless you count absurdly dumb or new ones no one has read.
Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind

Ender's Shadow
Shadow of the Hegemon
Shadow Puppets
Shadow of the Giant

Thanks. Heh, I had the right number for the wrong reason.... typical.

quickdraw: I love Ender's Game but it's not going to be the next Harry Potter. Harry Potter became what it is because she described a world that people want to be in. Nobody want's to live in Ender's world. Not even Ender.

I do. I'd have killed to go to Battle School instead of public school.

I encourage all farkers to NOT pay in any form to view this movie, as Orson Scott Card is a member of the hate group The National Organization for Marriage.

Scum like that doesn't deserve your money.

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