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(LA Times)   Colleagues say that casting director really had a great feel for working with children. Police say that's precisely the problem   (latimes.com) divider line 59
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2011-11-18 05:30:20 PM
Is it just me or do people seem more child-gropy recently?
 
2011-11-18 05:49:27 PM
Why is there a picture of Ryan Seacrest in the article?
 
2011-11-18 05:51:14 PM
Well what do you know someone whose sexual proclivities are too weird and objectionable for the Hollyweird crowd. His mistake is in NOT being Roman Polanski!
 
2011-11-18 05:52:43 PM

Delawheredad: His mistake is in NOT being Roman Polanski!


Or a Catholic.
 
2011-11-18 05:52:46 PM

ultraholland: Is it just me or do people seem more child-gropy recently?


Well let's put ti this way:

I think we hit a child molestor trifecta today WITHOUT including a single Sandusky article
 
2011-11-18 05:52:52 PM
Is it pedo week on Fark?

/8 year olds dude.
 
2011-11-18 05:53:09 PM

ultraholland: Is it just me or do people seem more child-gropy recently?


Victims are feeling empowered since the Penn State scandal broke out. My girlfriend called me about the Syracuse coach that was just busted, I told her to probably expect a few more.
 
2011-11-18 05:53:49 PM
Cut the farker's nuts off.

Now.
 
2011-11-18 05:53:54 PM

Delawheredad: Well what do you know someone whose sexual proclivities are too weird and objectionable for the Hollyweird crowd. His mistake is in NOT being Roman Polanski!


The Hollywood community only tolerates young girls being raped by power players, not young boys raped by nobodies. You gotta follow the rules to make it in this town.
 
2011-11-18 05:56:59 PM
To end this child molestation epidemic, all children under 18 will be segregated from all adults at nearby Lord of the Flies facilities.
 
2011-11-18 06:00:12 PM

skinink: To end this child molestation epidemic, all children under 18 will be segregated from all adults at nearby Lord of the Flies facilities.


images.wikia.com

Kick the children out, wall the town in, and that'll keep them separate from the child molesters

/And the goddamn Mongorians
 
2011-11-18 06:02:08 PM

Delawheredad: Well what do you know someone whose sexual proclivities are too weird and objectionable for the Hollyweird crowd. His mistake is in NOT being Roman Polanski!


And we are done!
 
2011-11-18 06:03:44 PM
Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.
 
2011-11-18 06:07:17 PM

scottydoesntknow: skinink: To end this child molestation epidemic, all children under 18 will be segregated from all adults at nearby Lord of the Flies facilities.

[images.wikia.com image 640x411]

Kick the children out, wall the town in, and that'll keep them separate from the child molesters

/And the goddamn Mongorians


But how is that going to help stop the doctor playing 6 year old sexual predators?

http://www.fark.com/comments/6743983/Six-year-old-boy-caught-playing- d octor-charged-with-sexual-assault-served-with-a-malpractice-suit
 
2011-11-18 06:07:36 PM
Aspiring actors often had to prove themselves on his casting loveseat.
 
2011-11-18 06:08:42 PM
You know, I consider myself as jaded as the next farker, but I've reached my limit on these stories for a while.
 
2011-11-18 06:08:52 PM

tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.


That we know of. That's precisely the problem. The dude was not allowed to work with children, and yet he did, in unsupervised settings where he could very easily molest them. And since he was their gateway to getting into the movies, chances are a fair number would let him. There is no way this guy should have been allowed in that position.
 
2011-11-18 06:10:32 PM
FTA:

A small-town boy from Washington state...
Authorities found Murphy, the boy and more than $8,000 cash in a Manhattan hotel room...


Sounds like a damn Journey song.

"Streetlights! Pedos! Whoa-whooa-oh-OOHHHHH-ooh!"
 
2011-11-18 06:10:35 PM

tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.


The guy changed his name to avoid being identified as the child rapist he is. But by all means, go ahead and continue white knighting for child molesters.
 
2011-11-18 06:11:48 PM

tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.


Sorta have to agree. The reaction is way over the farking top considering the guy isn't really accused of doing anything.

I also like how the cop is all like, "now now everyone, lets not jump to conclusions" but isn't that the entire point of the sex offender registry?

And finally, while I don't really have a lot of pity for sex offenders in general, I do dislike the concept that anyone can continue to be punished after they've done their time in prison. It seems to me that they should just make the prison sentances longer if they're that worried rather than setting up a system that effectively bars people from many types of gainful employment and potentially increases recidivism.

Sorry, I guess I'm really logical. Damn me.
 
2011-11-18 06:12:44 PM
www.moviequotesandmore.com
 
2011-11-18 06:14:52 PM
So...was he in the shower with the Penn State guy? Can we tie all of these together in some bizzare way?
 
2011-11-18 06:16:41 PM

elev8meL8r: FTA:

A small-town boy from Washington state...
Authorities found Murphy, the boy and more than $8,000 cash in a Manhattan hotel room...

Sounds like a damn Journey song.

"Streetlights! Pedos! Whoa-whooa-oh-OOHHHHH-ooh!"


Beautiful
 
2011-11-18 06:19:55 PM

metametameta: tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.

That we know of. That's precisely the problem. The dude was not allowed to work with children, and yet he did, in unsupervised settings where he could very easily molest them. And since he was their gateway to getting into the movies, chances are a fair number would let him. There is no way this guy should have been allowed in that position.


Once a molester, always a molester.
 
2011-11-18 06:21:59 PM
metametameta:
Shenanigans!:
But by all means, go ahead and continue white knighting for child molesters.

I'm not white knighting child molesters. This guy is in violation of a statute "Any name that a person uses needs to be the name that they are registered under, otherwise they are in violation." Fair enough.

But Abrams could say something like, "I'm shocked. This guy helped me make a butt-load of money. Has been in the industry 10 years and has a great reputation. Sorry to hear this newz"

Oh no, Abrams just clutches his pearls (and calls his attorney no doubt). Way to through him under the but there Danny.
 
2011-11-18 06:23:05 PM
bus
 
2011-11-18 06:28:28 PM

tinyarena: metametameta:
Shenanigans!: But by all means, go ahead and continue white knighting for child molesters.

I'm not white knighting child molesters. This guy is in violation of a statute "Any name that a person uses needs to be the name that they are registered under, otherwise they are in violation." Fair enough.

But Abrams could say something like, "I'm shocked. This guy helped me make a butt-load of money. Has been in the industry 10 years and has a great reputation. Sorry to hear this newz"

Oh no, Abrams just clutches his pearls (and calls his attorney no doubt). Way to through him under the but there Danny.


Weird. His response was almost dramatic or well rehearsed.
 
2011-11-18 06:31:32 PM
Wow so far so good. When I seen this had made it to Fark I said to myself please don't let the comments be like the LA Times.

The pedophiles took over the LA Times comment section defending this guy.
I guess when you have the ACLU Defending your right to start a club teaching other pedophiles how to openly select children to molest you start to feel like you have a right to rape babies.
 
2011-11-18 06:32:59 PM
Hey, what's wrong with this?
Hell, everyone in Hollywood knows your first roles are going to involve the casting couch... er, crib?
 
2011-11-18 06:36:16 PM

tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.


I guess I didn't read down far enough, you sick little worm!!
He Kidnapped and Raped an 8 Year Old!!!
You never get to wipe that off your record!
 
2011-11-18 06:39:08 PM

TwistedFark: tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.

Sorta have to agree. The reaction is way over the farking top considering the guy isn't really accused of doing anything.

I also like how the cop is all like, "now now everyone, lets not jump to conclusions" but isn't that the entire point of the sex offender registry?

And finally, while I don't really have a lot of pity for sex offenders in general, I do dislike the concept that anyone can continue to be punished after they've done their time in prison. It seems to me that they should just make the prison sentances longer if they're that worried rather than setting up a system that effectively bars people from many types of gainful employment and potentially increases recidivism.

Sorry, I guess I'm really logical. Damn me.


This is not about a 20 year old farking his 16 year old girlfriend and her parents pressing charges putting him on the list.
This guy raped and 8 year old!
 
2011-11-18 06:42:47 PM

AbbeySomeone: Weird. His response was almost dramatic or well rehearsed.


Indeed

AbbeySomeone: He Kidnapped and Raped an 8 Year Old!!!


Actually the article never mentions rape. Anyway I'm not defending the perp.
 
2011-11-18 06:43:55 PM

Indubitably: Once a molester, always a molester.


So then lock him away for the rest of his life!

This scarlet letter "PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!one!" bullshiat & internet access/plastering their name all over is so ridiculous. You want to let a guy out and give him a second chance? How about letting him get on with his farking life?

If you cannot do that, keep him locked up!

/Don't even get me started on the double standard that women get...
 
2011-11-18 06:43:58 PM
Sorry, that should be KimNorth
 
2011-11-18 06:48:07 PM

AbbeySomeone: tinyarena: metametameta:
Shenanigans!: But by all means, go ahead and continue white knighting for child molesters.

I'm not white knighting child molesters. This guy is in violation of a statute "Any name that a person uses needs to be the name that they are registered under, otherwise they are in violation." Fair enough.

But Abrams could say something like, "I'm shocked. This guy helped me make a butt-load of money. Has been in the industry 10 years and has a great reputation. Sorry to hear this newz"

Oh no, Abrams just clutches his pearls (and calls his attorney no doubt). Way to through him under the but there Danny.

Weird. His response was almost dramatic or well rehearsed.


I noticed that too.
 
2011-11-18 06:51:26 PM

Snow Monkey: Indubitably: Once a molester, always a molester.

So then lock him away for the rest of his life!

This scarlet letter "PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!one!" bullshiat & internet access/plastering their name all over is so ridiculous. You want to let a guy out and give him a second chance? How about letting him get on with his farking life?

If you cannot do that, keep him locked up!

/Don't even get me started on the double standard that women get...


LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)
 
2011-11-18 06:58:42 PM

Snow Monkey: Indubitably: Once a molester, always a molester.

So then lock him away for the rest of his life!

This scarlet letter "PROTECT THE CHILDREN!!!one!" bullshiat & internet access/plastering their name all over is so ridiculous. You want to let a guy out and give him a second chance? How about letting him get on with his farking life?

If you cannot do that, keep him locked up!

/Don't even get me started on the double standard that women get...


Dude, please.

Do not minimize.

Do not maximize.

Just deal, dude.

I say cut their nuts off. This will remove the physical compunction to molest. However, the mental addiction is another beast entirely...

Hmmm.

I say castration is cheaper than incarceration still.

Incarceration is a racket in America that must be slowed. It is policifying our state before our eyes, among other influences...

Frick.

Don't get me started.

*back under bridge*
 
2011-11-18 07:00:54 PM
Just in case you don't have a big enough case of the willies yet, every now and then I remember that Steven Spielberg, who loves to work with child actors, called Michael Jackson "the most normal person I know".

/brrr
 
2011-11-18 07:01:48 PM
There are lots of allegations, believable to me, that there is a lot of sexual misconduct in casting, including among child stars. It's not a new phenomenon either, despite the current news trifecta.
 
2011-11-18 07:16:55 PM
I see we're once again pretending that once you're rehabilitated for your crime that you are still treated as guilty as the day you committed it.
 
2011-11-18 07:24:11 PM

Shenanigans!:
LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)


Yep! Oh wait, I don't have kids so I'm not up nights imagining some stranger is molesting them. Plus you know, random strangers rarely molest people, it's usually people the child knows very well.

Plus, you actually put your kids into the entertainment industry of America? You should have them taken away from you, really.

To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.
 
2011-11-18 07:51:05 PM

TwistedFark: tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.

Sorta have to agree. The reaction is way over the farking top considering the guy isn't really accused of doing anything.

I also like how the cop is all like, "now now everyone, lets not jump to conclusions" but isn't that the entire point of the sex offender registry?

And finally, while I don't really have a lot of pity for sex offenders in general, I do dislike the concept that anyone can continue to be punished after they've done their time in prison. It seems to me that they should just make the prison sentances longer if they're that worried rather than setting up a system that effectively bars people from many types of gainful employment and potentially increases recidivism.

Sorry, I guess I'm really logical. Damn me.



here's the problem: I know someone who has dealt with a lot of Pedos in a therapeutic setting. She is of the opinion that true pedophilia (not ephebophilia ) is an Organic disorder of the brain that may be related to OCD. Pedos seem compelled to offend in a way that goes way beyond libido. The number of victims they tend to have and the number of times they tend to offend with their victims is WAY out of proportion to any other sex crime. She's not at all sure they can be "cured" in any conventional sense of the word.
 
2011-11-18 07:59:12 PM
The real problem (well, one problem) here is that the casting company (or whatever) put him in a position with kids without ever doing a background check with his real name. Any organization that fails to do that in this day and age is just idiotic. It's easy/cheap to do; they should also have reasonable safe guards in place for ANY adult with a child (not their own). It's a simple method to prevent problems.
 
2011-11-18 08:01:56 PM

Magorn: TwistedFark: tinyarena: Abrams said, "It's shocking and it's devastating, not just as a filmmaker but as a father and someone who is entrusted to make sure that everyone I work with, especially children, are safe, To think that someone like this was among us is unthinkable."

He didn't do anything
He didn't touch anyone
He isn't accused of anything
He spent 5 years in prison already
Abrams, once again, earns my contempt.

Sorta have to agree. The reaction is way over the farking top considering the guy isn't really accused of doing anything.

I also like how the cop is all like, "now now everyone, lets not jump to conclusions" but isn't that the entire point of the sex offender registry?

And finally, while I don't really have a lot of pity for sex offenders in general, I do dislike the concept that anyone can continue to be punished after they've done their time in prison. It seems to me that they should just make the prison sentances longer if they're that worried rather than setting up a system that effectively bars people from many types of gainful employment and potentially increases recidivism.

Sorry, I guess I'm really logical. Damn me.


here's the problem: I know someone who has dealt with a lot of Pedos in a therapeutic setting. She is of the opinion that true pedophilia (not ephebophilia ) is an Organic disorder of the brain that may be related to OCD. Pedos seem compelled to offend in a way that goes way beyond libido. The number of victims they tend to have and the number of times they tend to offend with their victims is WAY out of proportion to any other sex crime. She's not at all sure they can be "cured" in any conventional sense of the word.


See?

This is EXACTLY what I've been talking about.

Thanks, yo.

Word.
 
2011-11-18 08:10:02 PM
Normally, I'm anti-death-penalty. Normally, I favour rehab over punishment. Normally, I'm inclined to see crooks as dumb people who made the dumbest possible choice out of what were probably limited options, not as cackling supervillains.

Then there are pedophiles.

I genuinely believe pedophilia is an inborn orientation, biologically on par with hetero-, homo-, and bisexuality. (Not morally: biologically.) Having spent my adolescence hating the lesbian half of my sexuality, I can assure you that your orientation is not changeable. It doesn't matter how much you disgust yourself (and I doubt this guy is that self-conscious): your body and lower brain functions will insist on reacting to stimuli. There were girls at school who I refused to hang out with, despite them being a good match for friendship, because avoiding the stimulus was the only way to avoid the response.

Let's repeat that: avoiding the stimulus is the only way to avoid the response.

The fact TFA's POS used an alias to secure a job with power over children suggests he has zero interest in avoiding the response.
 
2011-11-18 08:16:32 PM
Also:

Snow Monkey: To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.


How do you know the folk you're arguing with agree with letting the dude out in the first place? I sure as fark don't. I agree with you, actually: either keep 'em locked or let 'em go, don't half-ass it. But I question your willingness to let pedos go. I assume you think they're curable; I've said already that I think they're not; let's leave it at that.
 
2011-11-18 08:34:14 PM

Snow Monkey: Shenanigans!:
LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)

Yep! Oh wait, I don't have kids so I'm not up nights imagining some stranger is molesting them. Plus you know, random strangers rarely molest people, it's usually people the child knows very well.

Plus, you actually put your kids into the entertainment industry of America? You should have them taken away from you, really.

To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.


But first you need t think of the children! Why do you hates kids?
 
2011-11-18 08:44:46 PM

Snow Monkey: Shenanigans!:
LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)

Yep! Oh wait, I don't have kids so I'm not up nights imagining some stranger is molesting them. Plus you know, random strangers rarely molest people, it's usually people the child knows very well.

Plus, you actually put your kids into the entertainment industry of America? You should have them taken away from you, really.

To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.


You seem to not understand how the law works in these matters. You might want to check that out after you're done drying all the tears you've been crying for the world's poor, mistreated child rapists.
 
2011-11-18 08:57:29 PM

Shenanigans!: Snow Monkey: Shenanigans!:
LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)

Yep! Oh wait, I don't have kids so I'm not up nights imagining some stranger is molesting them. Plus you know, random strangers rarely molest people, it's usually people the child knows very well.

Plus, you actually put your kids into the entertainment industry of America? You should have them taken away from you, really.

To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.

You seem to not understand how the law works in these matters. You might want to check that out after you're done drying all the tears you've been crying for the world's poor, mistreated child rapists.


You seem not to understand my point, dumbass. Maybe you should stop forcing stupid, costly, ineffective laws on this country in the name of protecting your crotch spawn.
 
2011-11-18 09:33:39 PM

Snow Monkey: Shenanigans!: Snow Monkey: Shenanigans!:
LOL you gonna let this guy get on with his life in a career that puts him alone in a room with YOUR kids? I'll keep mine away from convicted child molesters, thanks. :)

Yep! Oh wait, I don't have kids so I'm not up nights imagining some stranger is molesting them. Plus you know, random strangers rarely molest people, it's usually people the child knows very well.

Plus, you actually put your kids into the entertainment industry of America? You should have them taken away from you, really.

To anyone else trying to turn my comment into something else(like you just did): I'm NOT ADVOCATING that these guys get into child-sitting. I'm advocating that if they serve the time & get out, then FARK YES they should be allowed to start over.

If you are unwilling to allow that, then DON'T LET THEM OUT, ASSHOLES.

You seem to not understand how the law works in these matters. You might want to check that out after you're done drying all the tears you've been crying for the world's poor, mistreated child rapists.

You seem not to understand my point, dumbass. Maybe you should stop forcing stupid, costly, ineffective laws on this country in the name of protecting your crotch spawn.


Ultimately the parents are responsible for protecting their children, but when that is too much by all means demand laws and more protection.
 
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