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(Yahoo) Obvious Republicans will allow tax increases in exchange for cutting medicare, social security, popular deductions, corporate taxes, and top tax rate. No word on who gets taxes raised   (finance.yahoo.com) divider line 195
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2011-11-18 01:28:22 PM
Are you wealthy? No?

Then it's you.
 
2011-11-18 01:31:19 PM
Republicans can go fark themselves. Well, the handful that will be left after the next election...
 
2011-11-18 01:32:55 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-18 01:38:09 PM
Wow, that sounds like a deal that helps a tiny percentage of Americans. Say, 1%. That sounds like a great deal, to fark over 99% of Americans.
 
2011-11-18 01:40:03 PM
I'll take "Who is the 99%" for $1000, Alex.
 
2011-11-18 01:43:18 PM
FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.


/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget
 
2011-11-18 01:43:32 PM
I wonder if the GOP pays any attention to what's going on outside their echo chamber?
 
2011-11-18 02:03:37 PM
Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget


it blows my mind that extending them is still even part of the conversation, let alone a major sticking point for the republicans.
 
2011-11-18 02:13:43 PM
extending the bush tax cuts adds $3 trillion to the deficit. HOW THE F*CK IS THIS SUPPOSED TO HELP OUR DEFICIT PROBLEM?
 
2011-11-18 02:24:15 PM
Broadening the base. That's what you'll be hearing a lot of. Well, broadening the tax base, anyways. Broadening the income base, which is a de facto broadening of the tax base, would be socialism.
 
2011-11-18 02:32:11 PM
F**ck you Republicans. Seriously, eat a bag of cum covered dicks.
 
2011-11-18 02:37:51 PM
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2011-11-18 02:45:47 PM
If the GOP didn't have gays, abortion, and Jesus as issues, they'd end up with about 1% of the popular vote.

Coincidence?
 
2011-11-18 02:45:52 PM
GWLush: F**ck you Republicans. Seriously, eat a bag of cum covered dicks.

Why would give them something most of them enjoy if you're mad at them?
 
2011-11-18 02:47:39 PM
It should be fun watching the retards defend this latest slice of Republican stupidity.

Bush Tax cuts are killing this country. The majority of Americans would love to see them expire because they still give two shiats about this nation. Republicans, on the other hand, are kneeling before the opened zippers of their corporate masters begging for their sweet, gold-plated cockmeat.
 
2011-11-18 02:51:33 PM
Vodka Zombie: Bush Tax cuts are killing this country.

Its the combination of the Bush tax cuts AND two land wars in Asia at the same time that really did it.

Now we need to end both wars AND hike taxes to their previous levels for at least 10 years.
 
2011-11-18 02:52:52 PM
i42.tinypic.com
 
2011-11-18 02:53:41 PM
I'm starting to solidify my belief that cutting social projects/corporate taxes/Medicare/privatizing SS/repealing regulations is all the Republican party has, because they keep trotting out the same answers to any issue that's out there. There's no wavering from this at all.

I really wonder if, for instance, they got their way. Corporate taxes down to damn near nothing, SS is privatized, EPA/FCC/FDA/FTC are essentially toothless, Medicare age is 67, Bush tax cuts are now written in stone, and yet there still is 9% unemployment, the deficit is just as bad if not worse due to the reduction in tax revenue brought on by reducing the corporate tax, and now the air and water are getting dirtier by the week due to now-legal dumping without fear of reprisal from the EPA.
 
2011-11-18 02:58:09 PM
Comic Book Guy: I really wonder if, for instance, they got their way. Corporate taxes down to damn near nothing, SS is privatized, EPA/FCC/FDA/FTC are essentially toothless, Medicare age is 67, Bush tax cuts are now written in stone, and yet there still is 9% unemployment, the deficit is just as bad if not worse due to the reduction in tax revenue brought on by reducing the corporate tax, and now the air and water are getting dirtier by the week due to now-legal dumping without fear of reprisal from the EPA.

or the unburdened corporations unleash an unprecedented era of prosperity for all and regulate themselves from externalizing costs like pollution. i mean, it's one or the other, none of us can tell the future.
 
2011-11-18 03:08:45 PM
No word on who gets taxes raised

Uh, what are you smoking subby? The GOP has been pretty clear about who it wants to raise taxes on.

The GOP will raise taxes - on the middle class and working poor Link (new window)

"we don't have enough people paying taxes in this country" Link (new window)

Perry launched his presidential campaign expressing dismay at the "injustice that nearly half of all Americans don't even pay any income tax.

Link (new window)

Do I even need a citation for Herman Cain "9-9-9?" Or the "We are the 53% movement?"

The message is consistent and clear, the GOP is focused on the 47% that do not make enough money to pay taxes. That is who they want to raise taxes on. And let's be clear, corporations are people with first amendment rights. But corporations aren't people so the corporations profiting billions a year but don't pay any taxes won't have to worry about the GOP raising their taxes.
 
2011-11-18 03:13:40 PM
Besides the middle class, who the GOP actively hates and is trying to destroy, the people who get their taxes raised will be seniors, in effect. The GOP wants, and will probably get the Medicare eligibility age raised by two years. This will cause seniors who could have taken Medicare at say 65, to have to wait until they are 67, and they will be forced to buy their own insurance for two extra years.

Health insurance policies for people in their 60s are not cheap. Over two years this is probably $50,000, not counting deductibles, co-pays and the cost of prescriptions.
 
2011-11-18 03:22:12 PM
thomps: Comic Book Guy: I really wonder if, for instance, they got their way. Corporate taxes down to damn near nothing, SS is privatized, EPA/FCC/FDA/FTC are essentially toothless, Medicare age is 67, Bush tax cuts are now written in stone, and yet there still is 9% unemployment, the deficit is just as bad if not worse due to the reduction in tax revenue brought on by reducing the corporate tax, and now the air and water are getting dirtier by the week due to now-legal dumping without fear of reprisal from the EPA.

or the unburdened corporations unleash an unprecedented era of prosperity for all and regulate themselves from externalizing costs like pollution. i mean, it's one or the other, none of us can tell the future.


True, none of us can tell the future. However, I just so happen to have a mountain of precedent for both outcomes that backs up my theory. On the other hand though, I can save a bundle on my natural gas expenses by collecting my tap water and burning it when the frackers come to town.
 
2011-11-18 03:47:51 PM
Take a flying leap, Republicans.

Take Grover 'Somalia has too much Government' Norquist with you.
 
2011-11-18 03:49:30 PM
no...really....do the Republicans bother looking out their windows and seeing what's actually going on out there? Because the rest of the country knows that we're letting corporations pay zero taxes.
 
2011-11-18 03:55:27 PM
lennavan: No word on who gets taxes raised

Uh, what are you smoking subby? The GOP has been pretty clear about who it wants to raise taxes on.

The GOP will raise taxes - on the middle class and working poor Link (new window)

"we don't have enough people paying taxes in this country" Link (new window)

Perry launched his presidential campaign expressing dismay at the "injustice that nearly half of all Americans don't even pay any income tax.

Link (new window)

Do I even need a citation for Herman Cain "9-9-9?" Or the "We are the 53% movement?"

The message is consistent and clear, the GOP is focused on the 47% that do not make enough money to pay taxes. That is who they want to raise taxes on. And let's be clear, corporations are people with first amendment rights. But corporations aren't people so the corporations profiting billions a year but don't pay any taxes won't have to worry about the GOP raising their taxes.


Republican code words/terms:

we want our country back = darkie in the White House
broaden the text base = tax the poor
smaller Government = fark the poor
pull yourself by you own bootstraps = fark the poor, but also point at them and laugh
tax reform = fark the poor to death, and convert them to soylent green to sell to the middle class
 
2011-11-18 03:56:04 PM
"tax base" not "text base"
 
2011-11-18 04:00:53 PM
Weaver95: no...really....do the Republicans bother looking out their windows and seeing what's actually going on out there? Because the rest of the country knows that we're letting corporations pay zero taxes.

I'm truly dumbfounded. Did somebody tell them they will get 72 virgins and pile of viagra as long as they do whatever Norquist says? Don't they have family members - let alone constituents - who are suffering from these insane policies? Is it all some plot to make Obama seem liberal?

/very confused
 
2011-11-18 04:06:11 PM
quickdraw: Weaver95: no...really....do the Republicans bother looking out their windows and seeing what's actually going on out there? Because the rest of the country knows that we're letting corporations pay zero taxes.

I'm truly dumbfounded. Did somebody tell them they will get 72 virgins and pile of viagra as long as they do whatever Norquist says? Don't they have family members - let alone constituents - who are suffering from these insane policies? Is it all some plot to make Obama seem liberal?

/very confused


And the really weird part? nobody is saying 'tax corporations into oblivion'. all people are saying is that hey, with $45 billion a year in profits maybe you corporate types can kick back a tiny bit in taxes. But the GOP goes off on a shrieking fit if you mention about raising corporate taxes.

it's madness.
 
2011-11-18 04:09:09 PM
tallguywithglasseson: Are you wealthy? No?

Then it's you.


I was amused when that group of millionaires visited Republican Congressmen, asking them to increase taxes on themselves and other rich. One Republican replied they could donate money to the US government themselves rather than raise taxes on the wealthy overall. What a stupid answer.

When I wrote my Congressman about supporting President Obama's job bill and volunteered to raise my income taxes, my Representative Mo Brooks wrote back, lecturing me on why everything was the Democrats' fault. What a dumbass.

/Too bad way too poor and middle class Alabamians will vote GOP anyway.
//Because they're white and President Obama is African-American.
 
2011-11-18 04:14:10 PM
And I'll just leave this here.

"Republicans have been accused of abandoning the poor. It's the other way around. They never vote for us." ~ Dan Quayle
 
2011-11-18 04:26:13 PM
Vodka Zombie: Bush Tax cuts are killing this country. The majority of Americans would love to see them expire because they still give two shiats about this nation. Republicans, on the other hand, are kneeling before the opened zippers of their corporate masters begging for their sweet, gold-plated cockmeat.

I just wanted to quote this because gold-plated cockmeat made me laugh for the first time today.
 
2011-11-18 04:30:01 PM
gameshowhost: [i42.tinypic.com image 600x549]

WTF, I swear it was the taxes one.

/too much coffee is bad, mmkuayyy
 
2011-11-18 04:45:26 PM
thomps: it blows my mind that extending them is still even part of the conversation, let alone a major sticking point for the republicans.

The best part is that the Dems will cave on it again!!! Exciting!
 
2011-11-18 04:47:55 PM
pwhp_67: Republicans can go fark themselves. Well, the handful that will be left after the next election...

They'll be far too busy playing with their tiny caucus to get anything done...
 
2011-11-18 04:48:33 PM
Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget


They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.
 
2011-11-18 04:50:56 PM
Comic Book Guy: I'm starting to solidify my belief that cutting social projects/corporate taxes/Medicare/privatizing SS/repealing regulations is all the Republican party has, because they keep trotting out the same answers to any issue that's out there. There's no wavering from this at all.
.


When your entire party thinks that government can't do anything good, the so called leaders you attract wouldn't have put any thought into what they can do to make the country better from a governmental standpoint because they don't think the government can do anything right.

Voting for a Republican is like betting on a Muslim to win a beer drinking contest. They won't even try so why bother.
 
2011-11-18 04:50:59 PM
Cat Food Sandwiches: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.


You're right, they should eliminate the procedural filibuster.
 
2011-11-18 04:50:59 PM
Because everyone loves the rich people's POLITBURO!

/We are racing toward becoming the former USSR.
 
2011-11-18 04:52:36 PM
Paul Krugman's editorial today at the NYTimes explained it sufficiently.

"In Democrat-world, up is up and down is down. Raising taxes increases revenue, and cutting spending while the economy is still depressed reduces employment. But in Republican-world, down is up. The way to increase revenue is to cut taxes on corporations and the wealthy, and slashing government spending is a job-creation strategy. Try getting a leading Republican to admit that the Bush tax cuts increased the deficit or that sharp cuts in government spending (except on the military) would hurt the economic recovery."
 
2011-11-18 04:52:45 PM
Obama is going to call the democrats in a sweat demanding that they sign whatever piece of shiat is on the table before the recess. This is merely clock management for the GOP.
 
2011-11-18 04:52:57 PM
Russky: Comic Book Guy: I'm starting to solidify my belief that cutting social projects/corporate taxes/Medicare/privatizing SS/repealing regulations is all the Republican party has, because they keep trotting out the same answers to any issue that's out there. There's no wavering from this at all.
.

When your entire party thinks that government can't do anything good, the so called leaders you attract wouldn't have put any thought into what they can do to make the country better from a governmental standpoint because they don't think the government can do anything right.

Voting for a Republican is like betting on a Muslim to win a beer drinking contest. They won't even try so why bother.


Yeah, so much THAT.
If the government suques so bad, why do they even bother to seek office within it?

/To burn this village in order to save it, no doubt.
 
2011-11-18 04:53:00 PM
FlashHarry: extending the bush tax cuts adds $3 trillion to the deficit. HOW THE F*CK IS THIS SUPPOSED TO HELP OUR DEFICIT PROBLEM?

Are you really advocating raising middle and lower class taxes now? I mean the argument over taxes on therich was one thing, but hiking everybody's taxes in a bad economy could be devistating.
 
2011-11-18 04:54:51 PM
Nadie_AZ: Take a flying leap, Republicans.

Take Grover 'Somalia has too much Government' Norquist with you.


I believe Grover doesn't think Somalia is a good example of the kind of country he wants to live in because it involves a number of different clans all fighting for supreme control of the country. I guess he doesn't really believe in the Almighty Free Market after all.
 
2011-11-18 04:55:04 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Cat Food Sandwiches: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.

You're right, they should eliminate the procedural filibuster.


Because it was impossible for Democrats to make any comprimises to get 3 more votes.

/log rolling, let me show it to you
 
2011-11-18 04:55:04 PM
thomps: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

it blows my mind that extending them is still even part of the conversation, let alone a major sticking point for the republicans.


You speak as though the Dems/Obama won't agree to extend them. They will, and the GOP know it.
 
2011-11-18 04:56:16 PM
Oh, for the love of god......

WTF is wrong with these people?
 
2011-11-18 04:56:18 PM
A Dark Evil Omen: Cat Food Sandwiches: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.

You're right, they should eliminate the procedural filibuster.


You can make the president sign a bill with a filibuster? Who knew? What's that veto thingee?
 
2011-11-18 04:56:47 PM
beta_plus: A Dark Evil Omen: Cat Food Sandwiches: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.

You're right, they should eliminate the procedural filibuster.

Because it was impossible for Democrats to make any comprimises to get 3 more votes.

/log rolling, let me show it to you


They tried and gave groudn and gave ground and gave ground and no one would join them. Obstructionism, let me show it to you.

/Of course, you knew that
 
2011-11-18 04:57:04 PM
"Rep. Charles Bass, R-N.H., recently told NPR that he might renege on his pledge to oppose higher taxes, even if it hurts him politically. Bass said he also pledged to "defend America against enemies, both domestic and foreign. And I consider the debt crisis in this country to be a real threat to the future of America." "

So the GOP keeps their not crazy members in NH. Good to know
 
2011-11-18 04:58:19 PM
Cat Food Sandwiches: A Dark Evil Omen: Cat Food Sandwiches: Somacandra: FTFA: The plan also would extend the Bush-era tax cuts, now set to expire at the end of next year.

NO.

FARK NO.

/that's an awful lot of what's killing the budget

They already expired, and Obama extended them. Remember? And while the Democrats controlled both the Senate and the House, to boot.

You're right, they should eliminate the procedural filibuster.

You can make the president sign a bill with a filibuster? Who knew? What's that veto thingee?


What's it like being that intellectually dishonest? Does it hurt?
 
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