I like how the GOP blames Kennedy for getting mired in Vietnam then turn around and say the Democrats and the media didn't let them win the war.

Ah, the last sane President the US had.

Does this mean we are going to war with Australia?

And just for fun/fair play, we'd given Ho Chi Minh some military advisers in the 1940s.

fark the Domino Theory and fark the fear the French would go commie if we didn't help them keep their colonies. We were on the wrong side of that war. Ho Chi Minh was only communist in the sense that you act in such a way as not to piss off your suppliers.

gopher321

*insert pic of Kevin Kline from A Fish Called Wanda*

"We did not lose Vietnam! It was a tie!"


"Boy, they whupped yer hide REEAALL GOOOOD!"

netweavr: Ah, the last sane President the US had.

Ah, but you have to be a little insane to be president.

And Kennedy wasn't sane, he was in a drug induced haze half the time, if not more. Altered reality, man. Not sanity.

Hydra: Le Bomb Suprize: Does this mean we are going to war with Australia?

Only if the Germans annex them again.

/wait....

was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor?
/ Don't stop him he's on a roll

Kid Lester

The failure of Vietnamization to win popular support caused an ongoing erosion of confidence in the various American, but illegal, Saigon regimes.


"Is she right?"

mitchcumstein1: Has Obama shown himself to be anything but sane and rational?

Functionally incompetent.

\There I said it.

Kid Lester: The failure of Vietnamization to win popular support caused an ongoing erosion of confidence in the various American, but illegal, Saigon regimes.

Is she right? 'Cause I know that's the *popular* version of what went on there. And a lot of people like to believe that. I wish I could, but I was *there*. I wasn't here in a class room, hoping I was right, thinking about it.
I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him; While pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!

MasterThief: downstairs: netweavr: Ah, the last sane President the US had.

I'm neither a Democrat or Republican... but would you really classify Clinton as "not sane?"

Sane from the neck up.

/that man sure stuck his dick in a lot of crazy...

Kennedy banged Marlyn Monroe. Same thing.

downstairs: netweavr: Ah, the last sane President the US had.

I'm neither a Democrat or Republican... but would you really classify Clinton as "not sane?"

Yes

He was ugly, too.

mitchcumstein1: We'd been there, what 6-7 years by 1961? Diem took power in '55, he was our guy.

What a farking shiat show Vietnam was. I think that's the worst thing to come out of the JKK assassination, we absolutely would not have gotten mired in Vietnam had he not been killed. Which, I guess, is a reason he ended up getting killed, if you're conspiracy theorist.

Back and to the left. Back and to the left. Back and to the left.

netweavr: downstairs: netweavr: Ah, the last sane President the US had.

I'm neither a Democrat or Republican... but would you really classify Clinton as "not sane?"

Yes

the dude could president like a mofo

gibbon1: mitchcumstein1: Has Obama shown himself to be anything but sane and rational?

Functionally incompetent.

\There I said it.

Not really, and I think that's why the GOP hates him so much. nothing seems to stick to the guy scandal wise, that doesn't wind up making them look like children.

good thing we learned never to start useless endless ideology driven wars again...

god damn it so much

A Fark Handle: good thing we learned never to start useless endless ideology driven wars again...

god damn it so much

Son, starting useless endless ideology driven wars is a god-given American pastime.

Another US war police action built on lies

Only took what 40+ years to be told that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never happened. How many fathers / sons had to die for that lie ?

Funny how the same BS keeps happening but people don't want to believe their government is capable of sacrificing its own citizens. 60,000+ Americans untold numbers of Vietnamese.

groppet: I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him; While pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!

That's the baby boomers for you.

Gen Y doesn't treat Iraqi veterans like that.

gibbon1: groppet: I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him; While pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!

That's the baby boomers for you.

Gen Y doesn't treat Iraqi veterans like that.

Yes, the police beating veterans in Oakland are all Baby Boomers.

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Good thing the U.S. military industrial complex learned its lesson, eh? Which is, control the media at home, and you can start and sustain a pointless war indefinitely!

/Paris 1954

netweavr: gibbon1: groppet: I was up to my knees in rice paddies, with guns that didn't work! Going in there, looking for Charlie, slugging it out with him; While pussies like you were back here partying, putting headbands on, doing drugs, and listening to the goddamn Beatle albums! Oh! Oh! Oh!

That's the baby boomers for you.

Gen Y doesn't treat Iraqi veterans like that.

Yes, the police beating veterans in Oakland are all Baby Boomers.

ಠ_ಠ

Veteran hippies are still hippies

mitchcumstein1: gibbon1: mitchcumstein1: Has Obama shown himself to be anything but sane and rational?

Functionally incompetent.

\There I said it.

Actually, he's been quite competent, that's what seems to be driving his opponents insane.

Secret Muslin

downstairs: That's a particularly unflattering photo of Lewinski. I think she was hot.

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mitchcumstein1: downstairs: netweavr: Ah, the last sane President the US had.

I'm neither a Democrat or Republican... but would you really classify Clinton as "not sane?"

Has Obama shown himself to be anything but sane and rational?

Yes, he is anything but sane and rational to push through a health care bill no one had the time to read.