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2011-11-18 01:24:47 PM
I don't care if it's been debunked, this picture freaks me the fark out every time I see it.

i218.photobucket.com

/Pleasant dreams...
 
2011-11-18 01:26:29 PM
I am no scientist, but a twenty inch child would not have the bones fused in its head. The main soft spot fuses after two years of age. Also, My daughter was twenty inches long when she was born.

Perhaps a defect? Those bones look pretty fused in the skull though. Could a profoundly small child with these defects live long enough for the bones to fuse back in the day?

Questions...
 
2011-11-18 02:08:31 PM
1) The skull is the result of cranial binding. This was a common practice in Peru a couple thousand years ago. People of high-ranking families bound their infants' heads tightly, and kept them that way, so that the bones of the skull fused into elongated shapes, similar in some ways to "foot binding" in China. It was an indication of the family's status that could never be taken away. Even if he lost all his wealth, people would still know he was a high-status person because of his head shape.
There is no doubt that it is a human skull, because all of the elements of a human skull (frontal, parietals, nasals, occipital, zygomatics, maxillae, mandible, etc.) are present. While it would not surprise me if "aliens" had bony skulls protecting their brains, it defies the odds that those skulls would be divided into exactly the same component parts, in the same arrangement, as ours. Not even all of the animals on earth have the same skull bones.


2) "Bundle" burials were also common in Peru, and were sometimes transported to new burial sites and re-interred in secondary burials, at which time, the bones (now mostly devoid of flesh) would be gathered up into a smaller bundle. The skull retains the shape of the head, but the bulk of the trunk and limbs is soft tissue. When bones are all that remains after decomposition, they take up very little space. It would not be difficult to cram the skeleton of a 6 foot tall man into a 20 inch long package, as long as the bones are not articulated in anatomical position.

3) That's not a complete body. In those awful, overly watermarked photos, I can identify along with the skull, only six partial ribs (out of a normal complement of 24- 12 left and 12 right), a bone that looks like a human metatarsal and one that, from the image, appears to be the metacarpal of a llama.
 
2011-11-18 02:18:25 PM
i386.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-18 02:22:58 PM
We better hope the aliens don't have hostile intent. Anything that can survive the distances of intergalactic travel can probably squash us like bugs.
 
2011-11-18 02:26:10 PM
i105.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-18 02:49:41 PM
OMG we are being invaded!

t2.gstatic.com

/wankers
//it's called skull shaping
 
2011-11-18 02:51:08 PM
Jake Havechek: We better hope the aliens don't have hostile intent. Anything that can survive the distances of intergalactic travel can probably squash us like bugs.

Maybe. Then again, they may only come with a tiny compliment, and maybe they'd have completely overlooked some basic countermeasure against one of our weapons or tricks because it's so wildly obsolete no one bothers. Hey, geese can bring down jets. We could get lucky.

Then we could bury them in Peru for the lulz.


Oh, and yeah not even TFA believes that's an alien.
 
2011-11-18 03:13:08 PM
Jake Havechek: We better hope the aliens don't have hostile intent. Anything that can survive the distances of intergalactic travel can probably squash us like bugs.

Which is sort of why I don't think that we'll live to see our nearest neighbors. I don't doubt that there is other life out there. I just doubt that even in life span of our entire species that we'll ever meet them--and if we do, that we'll even be able to communicate with them. We will have more frames of reference with dolphins and dogs than our nearest cosmic neighbors.

Doesn't rule it out. Could be possible. Just don't think it likely...
 
2011-11-18 03:24:13 PM
Descended from these 'aliens'?

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-18 03:26:55 PM
 
2011-11-18 03:27:02 PM
Jake Havechek: We better hope the aliens don't have hostile intent. Anything that can survive the distances of intergalactic travel can probably squash us like bugs.

I was trying to explain why energy density is such an issue for space travel to my boss, and ended up saying basically the following:

1. Given the number of exoplanets we have discovered, and how common both water and energy are in our little bubble of space-time, odds of life existing elsewhere are very high.

2. Given our current knowledge of physics and energy density, odds against any of that life traveling here are equally high.

3. If a race just shows up, it's technology will be farking magic, and we better hope it doesn't actually NEED anything we are attached to.
 
2011-11-18 03:30:05 PM
i09, as accurate and relevant as ever. *facepalm*.
 
2011-11-18 03:30:12 PM
So....
This explains everyone else?
 
2011-11-18 03:32:54 PM
Lt. Cheese Weasel: i09, as accurate and relevant as ever. *facepalm*.

So, you couldn't detect any hint of sarcasm?

BOOM. There ya go. Four out of five faceless scientists agree that what you're looking at are mummified alien remains. Case closed.

None?
 
2011-11-18 03:32:55 PM
While clearly that's not alien, it may be different in one part but it's too similar in others to be alien, it should be the common stance of people that there is more intelligent life in the universe until dis-proven. It's crazy to think we're the only ones.

As far as I'm concerned it's: Other life? Definitely, other intelligence? good chance, visited earth? Almost no chance.

I won't rule anything out, and frankly I'd love to believe aliens visited, because it makes such an interesting story, but I just don't see it ever having happened.

Since that head looks like the crystal skull in Indiana Jones I'm going to take this chance to you all that an alien crystal skull is more realistic than an ark containing gods words, or a cup that caught the blood of Christ, since those things can not possibly exist as there is no god. So people saying "aliens in my Indiana Jones?!? No thanks!" are just wrong. It wasn't a great film, but not because of aliens, but because you're older and nothing can live up to previous experiences.
 
2011-11-18 03:33:11 PM
images.wikia.com

Put it back and run like hell!
 
2011-11-18 03:34:49 PM
i1136.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-18 03:34:56 PM
I look forward to the History chanel miniseries that must be right around the corner on this one.
 
2011-11-18 03:37:49 PM
FloydA: The skull is the result of cranial binding.

Thankyou
. Why the hell are people still debating this one?

Did certain people in this thread take stupid pills this morning, or what?
 
2011-11-18 03:40:02 PM
Fluorescent Testicle: Thankyou. Why the hell are people still debating this one?

Did certain people in this thread take stupid pills this morning, or what?


We're debating this?
 
2011-11-18 03:40:27 PM
So we can safely assume it's not an ancestor of this guy, right?

images3.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2011-11-18 03:41:23 PM
Wow!

With all the grammatical errors, I could hardly get past the first paragraph.

I *THINK* she was trying to say:

Behold a giant-headed alien mummy that turned up in Peru.
Stare into the all-knowing eye sockets of an alien that somehow
wound up on Earth many years ago, and was mummified by the
locals. But what was is it doing here?
 
2011-11-18 03:45:35 PM
futuramaoutlet.com
 
2011-11-18 03:47:07 PM
www.schrf.org
 
2011-11-18 03:47:43 PM
Dad?
 
2011-11-18 03:48:41 PM
I will never grow weary of the Giorgio Tsoukalos meme.

When you watch Ancient Aliens, the guy is so animated & you can tell he believes 100% of the shiat he says.
 
2011-11-18 03:49:21 PM
It's the remains of a slestak!
 
2011-11-18 03:49:41 PM
images.wikia.com
 
2011-11-18 03:50:56 PM
What an alien human/hybrid might look like:

www.thefilmyap.com
 
2011-11-18 03:52:21 PM
From the article's Comments: he could be alien. your saying he isn't alien isn't exactly 'proof'.

Yup. And the Tooth Fairy could be giving me a blowjob right now. You saying she isn't, isn't exactly "proof".
 
2011-11-18 03:53:01 PM
just goes to show that Russian and Spanish doctors are completely incompetent
 
2011-11-18 03:53:27 PM
PainInTheASP: /Pleasant dreams...

img64.imageshack.us

You shoulda gone before we left Andromeda...
 
2011-11-18 03:56:04 PM
FloydA: 3) That's not a complete body. In those awful, overly watermarked photos, I can identify along with the skull, only six partial ribs (out of a normal complement of 24- 12 left and 12 right), a bone that looks like a human metatarsal and one that, from the image, appears to be the metacarpal of a llama.

See, that's just you looking for explanations to fit your preconception that the remains are human.

It's well-known among UFOologists that the triangle-headed aliens from Tau Ceti have on 6 ribs, as well as llama-like metacarpals.

\why can't you science-types keep an open mind?
 
2011-11-18 03:58:03 PM
images.wikia.com

He never made it home.....
 
2011-11-18 03:59:28 PM
fastcache.gawkerassets.com

That's no alien skull.

www.propsport.com

Now THAT'S an alien skull!
 
2011-11-18 03:59:30 PM
www.igp-scifi.com
 
2011-11-18 04:01:31 PM
img.thesun.co.uk
 
2011-11-18 04:02:12 PM
1.bp.blogspot.com


The butt heads!
 
2011-11-18 04:02:17 PM
FTFC: "Plus, keep in mind that the vast majority of aliens which are capable of space travel differ in appearance from humans only in the shape of their ears, or nose/forehead ridges. Those differences, while obvious enough in living specimens, are due primarily to cartilaginous structures, which would have deteriorated with the soft tissue, and no longer be present with the skeletal remains.

The simplest explanation, I believe, is that this is an alien child which suffered from hydrocephaly."


OK...which one of you Farkers wrote this???
 
2011-11-18 04:02:58 PM
I believe I have a picture of the fifth scientist:

img507.imageshack.us

/hot, unlike the tears of aloneness
 
2011-11-18 04:05:14 PM
There are 100 billion stars in the Milky Way Galaxy, which is 100,000 light years in diameter and about 1000 light-years thick, average.

We can dispense with 90% of these stars becase they are too hot, too cold, locked up in binaries, etc. That leaves 10 billion;

Figure 1 chance in 10 a star has a planet in the temperate zone, 1 chance in 10 there is oxygen and one chance in 10 there is water. That brings us down to 10 mllion.

Figure 1 chance in 10 that life did develop, 1 chance in 10 it attained intelligence, and 1 chance in 10 it is as intelligent as we are. That is 10 thousand;

Divide that by the volume of the Galaxy and take the cube root of the result, and I think it works out to 1 sentient race every 922 light years, average.

Not likely they would travel so far, but if so, it would not happen often.
 
2011-11-18 04:08:07 PM
They polled 5 scientists, 4 of them were ufologists (yes, that's an actual term).
 
2011-11-18 04:08:17 PM
Slaxl: "As far as I'm concerned it's: Other life? Definitely, other intelligence? good chance, visited earth? Almost no chance."

This.
The same math that says other intelligent life is probable says that interstellar distances are so incredibly vast that the odds of even intelligent life surviving long enough to have solved the problem of and adapted to spacefaring-life sufficiently to cross such distances is far, far less likely. And such a culture would almost surely have lost all interest in physically visiting any planet; as they could see and record and analyze all they wanted with far less energy expenditure and personal risk via satellites and drones. And what are the odds such a culture, if it did visit Earth, happened upon us while we were even here or our forebears worth talking to? Probabilistically speaking, it's just highly unlikely that a visit could have occurred while any human being was in any condition to record or archive artifacts from such a visit.

And, lastly, even if a spacefaring culture had sent or left a drone in our neighborhood to keep an eye out for developments that justified a future visit and direct contact... do you really think we've reached a point they would consider worth talking to? Eons of Earth-time would pass in the blink of an eye to their frame of reference. What would be their rush?
 
2011-11-18 04:09:04 PM
compesconsisus: 3. If a race just shows up, it's technology will be farking magic, and we better hope it doesn't actually NEED anything we are attached to.

THIS.

If you can accelerate mass across interstellar distances, pushing a couple asteroids into new orbits (that intersect Earth's) is going to be about as difficult to them as sinking the 8 ball in the side pocket.
 
2011-11-18 04:10:12 PM
Not impressed:

www.comedy.co.uk
 
2011-11-18 04:11:41 PM
FloydA: wall of text

Jesus was an extraterrestrial
 
2011-11-18 04:12:55 PM
static.guim.co.uk


These guys always looked alien to me.
 
2011-11-18 04:14:14 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com
4/5 scienticians agree that it's an alien.
 
2011-11-18 04:16:05 PM
img293.imageshack.us
 
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