meanmutton: sweetmelissa31: CitizenTed: The way I see it, if I can quietly accept the bland, nasty gluten-free cous-cous and tempeh crap that vegans serve when I visit them,

Gluten free is for celiacs. Maybe you've never visited a vegan or a celiac?

A large number (probably a majority at this point) of the people who eat gluten-free diets think that gluten is some sort of evil inflicted upon the world.

I have a friend with celiac that complains about the gluten hangers-on, mostly because of a woman that told him while she isn't gluten sensitive, she doesn't eat it, and she got in his face about how he (the man with celiac) is causing the prices of her gluten free foods to rise.

darkhorse23: God forbid indeed. My daughter in law and her partner - 'strict raw vegans' tried to farking take over my entire meal last year when I 'tried to be incluse of my family who don't eat meat'. "Granted, you've been on this earth forty years longer than we have but we think you're ignorant and don't know how to eat and here, have some raw nuts and carrots instead of the roast duck you worked so hard on because we're better than you" was the entire theme.

I made them bring their own shiat. Seriously, I live in Asheville, with a higher concentration of vegans and gays/lesbians than anywhere else in the entire farking country. The ones I have met, and the ones I know, all have that attitude and I'm sick to death of it. "Oh, we just discovered a way to eat on the internets, so you are stupid if you don't do like us" is the word of the day. fark them. If we aren't supposed to eat animals, then they shouldn't be made out of meat. I am proud of my position on the food chain.

Tell these precious vegan snowflakes to go to Marshall and drive half-way up Roberts Hill Road to the old Farmer place. Tell them to ask for Pop Shelton and explain their dietary preferences to him; I'm sure he would be delighted to enlighten them to the wonders of not giving a fark.

tofurkey....what the fark is this shiat, if someone brought this crap in my house i would ask them to leave.

Mr Rusty Shackleford: The whole point of Thanksgiving is to eat turkey, you farking dummy. Save your exotic bullshiat for Christmas eve dinner.

When our relatives were all still all alive, healthy, and living in the area we would have more or less the same big dinner for 20+ people on both occasions. So...

sweetmelissa31: I've been a vegetarian since I was 12 and have never had a problem on Thanksgiving. Usually the turkey is the only meat there, and I've been making a baked ziti for the past 5 or so years as a main course. Of course, my family doesn't have an obnoxious attitude

Mrs. robertus has been a vegetarian for about as long, and she doesn't generally have problems at family Thanksgiving dinners. I mean, apart from the Vegetarian Stuffing That Shall Not Be Named, nobody ate that crap.

Ah the intolerance of vegans and the ignorance of some. Fark: "You don't eat meat? HOW DARE YOU!! Screw you and your self righteous hippie pompous ass, give me some Bacon and Steak and shove your tofu and leafy greens up your ass!" Sorry I don't share the same eating habits as you, I didn't know it was such a big deal and obviously offends you. Not all vegans or vegetarians are crazy Peta pricks, some of us choose a meatless diet due to health issues.

My wife and I are Vegan and we don't make a big deal out of it. We don't usually have a problem when we go out to eat or eat at a friends house. It is annoying that both of our mothers feel the need to tell the waiter "They're vegan" like it's a disease or something. Who cares, the waiter doesn't need to know why we ordered only a salad without cheese and or steamed veggies. He probably figured it out anyway.

Katie98_KT: my vegan cousin refuses to eat margarine too.

Everything you've told us about her confirms that she is an ass. Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil is fine for a vegan, and that's all margarine is. You have my sympathies.

Mrs. Nuisance is a vegetarian, btw.

Mavent: I'd bet that something like 110% of you who are getting your panties in a bunch over the suggestion that you use margarine instead of butter already use margarine instead of butter, and have done so all your lives.

Well, if you were raised dirt-poor, and you'd never even tasted butter til you moved from the country to the suburbs and butter tasted like the Food of the Gods, you would do as I and most of siblings have done as adults, and banned margarine from the house.

Sybarite: God forbid people try to be inclusive of their friends and family who don't eat meat.

If I go to India, do you think I'm going to complain that there's no cow to eat at the table? You conform to the host, not the other way around.

RexTalionis: Fail in Human Form: /Never had tofurky, but I'm slightly curious about how it tastes

My people invented tofu. I consider Tofurkey to be an insult.

Take off your shoe, pull out the insole and take a bite. Hold it in your mouth for a few minutes. It taste worse than that.

haywatchthis: tofurkey....what the fark is this shiat, if someone brought this crap in my house i would ask them to leave.

Ask? They would leave.

sweetmelissa31: I really love that cranberry sauce that retains the shape of the can.

That stuff is the reason the phrase "awesome sauce" was invented.

darkhorse23: My daughter in law and her partner

I keep trying to parse this statement, but I keep failing. A daughter-in-law is the woman that your son (or daughter, I suppose) marries, correct? Maybe I'm misinterpreting your use of the word "partner"? How do you have a lesbian daughter-in-law whose partner is not your daughter? Alternatively, why does your son's wife have a partner that she brings to Thanksgiving with her? I'm just not getting this.

Dear vegetarians: I am willing to accept that you exist and I will not try to sway you from your preferred course in life as long as you afford me the same courtesy.

apoptotic: RexTalionis: These tips aren't for vegetarians. These tips are for vegans. I don't think many vegetarians really care about marshmellows or butter usage.

That's what I was thinking too. I actually did have a vegetarian friend come over for Thanksgiving one year, and the only thing I did differently than usual was to not cook the stuffing inside the turkey, so that she could eat the stuffing. She was thrilled that I remembered and cheerfully ate some of everything but the turkey.

That.

Canadian thanksgiving was last month. Had a vegetarian guest. Potatoes, stuffing, yams, beans, cranberry sauce, roasted root vegetables, pie and booze were all meat free. He didn't eat the turkey or the fig/prosciutto appies.

Really was not any kind of imposition or hardship on me, the host.

big pig peaches: RexTalionis: Fail in Human Form: /Never had tofurky, but I'm slightly curious about how it tastes

My people invented tofu. I consider Tofurkey to be an insult.

Take off your shoe, pull out the insole and take a bite. Hold it in your mouth for a few minutes. It taste worse than that.

*scratches tofurkey off his must try list*

The writer of the article hasn't eaten meat since she was 8? I wouldn't trust somebody who admits to that. My housemates try to impose their ridiculous food fetishisms on me. I tell them their food choices are personal and just because they don't eat meat doesn't make their choices better than mine.

I stink up the kitchen with bacon, steak, chops, butter and laugh when they come into the kitchen drooling. Then I won't share.

Don't criticize what I eat. Harumph!

Fail in Human Form: apoptotic: RexTalionis: These tips aren't for vegetarians. These tips are for vegans. I don't think many vegetarians really care about marshmellows or butter usage.

That's what I was thinking too. I actually did have a vegetarian friend come over for Thanksgiving one year, and the only thing I did differently than usual was to not cook the stuffing inside the turkey, so that she could eat the stuffing. She was thrilled that I remembered and cheerfully ate some of everything but the turkey.

Do you make your own stuffing? We always do and I just make a batch with vegetable broth instead of chicken broth and everybody eats both without complaint. They all like it and it really doesn't taste different from the other dressing, it only tastes different from the stuffing cooked in the bird.

My ex made it (he's a much better cook than I am), I just reminded him not to put it in the bird. Whenever I tried to make homemade stuffing you could have used it as spackle, so he did the turkey and stuffing and I did everything else.

BKITU
Oh FFS....


Marshmallows.


There is no "e" in the word anywhere. Not one.


does marshmellows harsh mellows?

/nothing

rustypouch: Bacon.

The answer is more bacon.

Amen

//girlfriend is a vegetarian

Sybarite: God forbid people try to be inclusive of their friends and family who don't eat meat.

Well, several members of my family are allergic to Soy, so a Tofurkey would be right out. Frankly though, I really only care about accomodating my couple of friends who are eating vegetarian as part of a healthier life-style. These people are reasonable enough that they'll eat a bit of protein twice a year for Thanksgiving and Christmas, so I make sure to have plenty of caserroles and side-dishes, and I keep the ham out of the green beans.

Vegans and Peta-inspired vegetarians can go fark themselves.

sweetmelissa31: I really love that cranberry sauce that retains the shape of the can.

We've always had that stuff on the table as well. I can't say I remember seeing anyone actually *eat* it very often, but Thanksgiving wouldn't be quite right without it.

It's not friggin hard.

My girlfriend is vegetarian. We have a mutual non-conversion pact (I don't try to convince her to eat meat, she doesn't try to convince me not to) and I cook vegetarian at home. I get plenty of meat at restaurants.

This year I'm hosting Thanksgiving for my family for the first time and we're having turkey and gravy. I've planned a vegetarian entree for her and the side dishes will be vegetarian (including the stuffing, which I won't be putting in the turkey). No fuss, no dramaz, no passive aggression.

I'm more worried about what to feed the super-picky eater that might be coming -- as far as I know she only likes mac 'n' cheese and bread.

Mostly vegetarian here, it really isn't THAT big a deal. Any vegetarian who gives others a hard time is, frankly, an idiot. The amount of social validation that omnivorous eaters have makes for an insurmountable obstacle. Of course, it goes the other way too. Some jackass who hears that someone is a vegetarian and promptly goes over and starts waving a raw steak in their face while making nomnom noises deserves a beating.

Keeping your own personal ethical decisions to yourself is quite hard, apparently.

My brother is vegan but is very easy going about it. He believes it the best way for him to eat, but is never condescending towards the way anyone else chooses to eat. He prepares his own food at supper, and lets the rest of us eat whatever we want without any sort of comment. Usually makes a bunch and it's available to try if we want. Usually it's really quite good. We live in a smallish city so there are not many (if any) true vegan restaurants so he will bring his own meal if we eat out.

darkhorse23: My daughter in law and her partner

Your daughter-in-law and...your daughter?

While the gluten free craze will eventually go away, I have to say it's nice for the people who really have celiac disease. And for the guys who've been shot/blown up over in Bumfarkistan. I've got a soldier friend who lost several feet of his intestine and has to follow what's basically a gluten free diet.

\He's still happy-meat and potatos are gluten free.

sweetmelissa31: I do eat gelatin, although it is a little gross to think about.

Isnt that made from ground up horses or something??

James10952001: sweetmelissa31: I really love that cranberry sauce that retains the shape of the can.

We've always had that stuff on the table as well. I can't say I remember seeing anyone actually *eat* it very often, but Thanksgiving wouldn't be quite right without it.

When you're eating leftover turkey and dinner rolls, make a turkey sandwich and then put the cranberries on the sandwich instead of Mayo or your favorite condiment. Thank me later.

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Until you have the newly-vegan-and-lesbian college student make a tearful prayer for the soul of the murdered turkey, you haven't really had an awkward Thanksgiving.



/ Hotter than buttered rolls

James10952001: sweetmelissa31: I really love that cranberry sauce that retains the shape of the can.

We've always had that stuff on the table as well. I can't say I remember seeing anyone actually *eat* it very often, but Thanksgiving wouldn't be quite right without it.

I thought it was a table decoration.

I read it...

It wasn't cooking for vegetarians.

It was for cooking vegetarians.

Mr. Coffee Nerves: Until you have the newly-vegan-and-lesbian college student make a tearful prayer for the soul of the murdered turkey, you haven't really had an awkward Thanksgiving.



/Wonder what Opus might have thought

apoptotic: Fail in Human Form: apoptotic: RexTalionis: These tips aren't for vegetarians. These tips are for vegans. I don't think many vegetarians really care about marshmellows or butter usage.

That's what I was thinking too. I actually did have a vegetarian friend come over for Thanksgiving one year, and the only thing I did differently than usual was to not cook the stuffing inside the turkey, so that she could eat the stuffing. She was thrilled that I remembered and cheerfully ate some of everything but the turkey.

Do you make your own stuffing? We always do and I just make a batch with vegetable broth instead of chicken broth and everybody eats both without complaint. They all like it and it really doesn't taste different from the other dressing, it only tastes different from the stuffing cooked in the bird.

My ex made it (he's a much better cook than I am), I just reminded him not to put it in the bird. Whenever I tried to make homemade stuffing you could have used it as spackle, so he did the turkey and stuffing and I did everything else.

*chuckle*

Get a 10 Qt kettle
-about 6-8 loaves of bread depending on taste (tear them into small chunks)
-onions (about half a bag diced)
-celery (same as above)
-about a dozen eggs (whipped)
-half a normal shaker of salt/pepper
-sage ( a full normal "can")
-I like garlic in my but you can pass on it if you don't
- at least 3-4 30 Oz broth container per kettle (it's going to cook off and you'll have to add water anyway)
Mix them all in the kettle by hand until you get a consistent paste. Cook either in the bird until done or in a slow cooker until the top is brown and it's almost boiling all the way through