The guy is addicted. He needs help, not to be locked away with violent criminals. Our war on drugs is farked up and our prison system is farked up. Get this guy into a rehab program, he could turn it around. Instead his life is ruined. Meanwhile, Lindsey Lohan keeps getting caught doing drugs and never got more than 30 days. Pathetic.

AlHarris31: The guy is addicted. He needs help, not to be locked away with violent criminals. Our war on drugs is farked up and our prison system is farked up. Get this guy into a rehab program, he could turn it around. Instead his life is ruined. Meanwhile, Lindsey Lohan keeps getting caught doing drugs and never got more than 30 days. Pathetic.

THIS

he wasn't even dealing. how the fark do we give someone six years for that? give him 90+ days of in-patient treatment and hope he can turn his life around. oh wait, i forgot that america has abandoned public health. what a stupid decision.

and it's not like his profession exposed him any sort of physical pain that might lead to addiction...

MBK: He's black and in Texas.

What do you expect?

them to respect him as a football player? football is sort of a big deal down there...

IT WAS farkING CODEINE

/sorry for yelling

MBK: A Fark Handle: he wasn't even dealing. how the fark do we give someone six years for that? give him 90+ days of in-patient treatment and hope he can turn his life around. oh wait, i forgot that america has abandoned public health. what a stupid decision.

and it's not like his profession exposed him any sort of physical pain that might lead to addiction...

He's black and in Texas.

What do you expect?

The doctors that originally treated him with these drugs are the culprits. They started the addiction, and obviously they decided to cut him off.

I think the NFL commissioner was a douche in this case. After Jolly first got caught, he was forbidden from hanging around the Packers, which could have been a support base to help him along through his addiction. Instead, (according to the video in the article), he seemed to spiral into depression and couldn't get out of his habit. He says he spent the Super Bowl in a hotel by himself (drinking syrup, probably) crying. This story makes me sad, and the same thing happens every day to less famous people. No treatment, just throw them away to the prison industrial complex. More money for the private prisons that in turn give kickbacks to politicians and judges.

There was an issue with the state law, so his purple drank was counted as 100% codeine and he got charged with possession of 600 grams or some crazy thing like that. Then he got caught two more times, the last time while on very strict (secret double) probation.

Also, he was interviewed on outside the lines very recently. Pretty sad story really. (hope this link works) Link (new window)

AbbeySomeone: MBK: A Fark Handle: he wasn't even dealing. how the fark do we give someone six years for that? give him 90+ days of in-patient treatment and hope he can turn his life around. oh wait, i forgot that america has abandoned public health. what a stupid decision.

and it's not like his profession exposed him any sort of physical pain that might lead to addiction...

He's black and in Texas.

What do you expect?

The doctors that originally treated him with these drugs are the culprits. They started the addiction, and obviously they decided to cut him off.

I don't think he was started on it as a prescription. He was abusing Purple Drank, which is apparently huge in the Houston area and is a mix of codeine and promethazine (usually). My guess is some of his old high school buddies use the stuff, or he used it himself before his NFL days, and just went back to it in the off season.
In his original 2008 arrest (which he got probation for) he faced a max of 20 years. He could have gotten himself into rehab after that but chose not to - it's not like he didn't have the money to pay for it.

I feel bad for him, but it's not like he wasn't already given second and third chances, and didn't have money to get himself treatment.

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: AbbeySomeone: MBK: A Fark Handle: he wasn't even dealing. how the fark do we give someone six years for that? give him 90+ days of in-patient treatment and hope he can turn his life around. oh wait, i forgot that america has abandoned public health. what a stupid decision.

and it's not like his profession exposed him any sort of physical pain that might lead to addiction...

He's black and in Texas.

What do you expect?

The doctors that originally treated him with these drugs are the culprits. They started the addiction, and obviously they decided to cut him off.

I don't think he was started on it as a prescription. He was abusing Purple Drank, which is apparently huge in the Houston area and is a mix of codeine and promethazine (usually). My guess is some of his old high school buddies use the stuff, or he used it himself before his NFL days, and just went back to it in the off season.
In his original 2008 arrest (which he got probation for) he faced a max of 20 years. He could have gotten himself into rehab after that but chose not to - it's not like he didn't have the money to pay for it.

I feel bad for him, but it's not like he wasn't already given second and third chances, and didn't have money to get himself treatment.

He may not have much money, according to the OTL video that John Nash linked above, he was using every day and buying bottles for like $600 each off the street. Drug addicts have a tendency to spend their money, and its not like the guy had a huge Vick sized contract.

AlHarris31: I think the NFL commissioner was a douche in this case. After Jolly first got caught, he was forbidden from hanging around the Packers, which could have been a support base to help him along through his addiction.

that's how the nfl always rolls. they treat all drug test failures or arrests as crimes not addiction. it's terrible. basically, when someone gets caught they can have no contact with their teammates or coaches. it's the bad side of an intervention without the option for treatment before cutting them out. it's a stupid policy

John Nash: There was an issue with the state law, so his purple drank was counted as 100% codeine and he got charged with possession of 600 grams or some crazy thing like that.

that's just texas-size stupid if the law is written like that.

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: I don't think he was started on it as a prescription. He was abusing Purple Drank, which is apparently huge in the Houston area and is a mix of codeine and promethazine (usually).

perhaps he turned to the street version of painkillers since his prescription was done. he wouldn't be the first addict to reach for the next best thing...

This sentence is ridiculous.

Rush Limbaugh strangely silent, I'll bet.

REALLY farking stupid and incredibly excessive. He's an addict, he should not be treated as a criminal. I mean, c'mon - six years...FOR CODEINE. Time to end the war on drugs so this bullshiat shell of a justice system can start making some farking sense. He belongs in rehab, not a jail cell.

Also UAB is beating 20th ranked Southern Miss 34-31 right now with 4 min left. I think I'm switching to that game.

OOPS wrong thread sorry

John Nash: Also, he was interviewed on outside the lines very recently. Pretty sad story really. (hope this link works) Link (new window)

granted he was promoting his own cause, but after watching that this sentence rather than treatment is even worse...fark the war on drugs.

Yup, that sentence is totally excessive. My dear wife, who happens to be a pharmacist (from the US even) is appalled ... "It's only codeine.... You can get that with Tylenol OTC here in Canada" She's right too.

What a load of total carp. This guy has a problem, he farked up numerous times, but 6 years for possession, you've got to be kidding me.

/...Re-Hab maybe.

As Subby said, he forgot to be a white QB, or else he would be hailed as a "hero who has a little problem."

Race is all this is about. Plain and simple. Well, the farked up American drug policy is part of it, too, but this has race written all over it.

As someone up further in the thread mentioned, Lindsay Lohan is an habitual drug ABUSER and only gets 30 days (if that) in jail.

Jolly does 6 YEARS FOR CODEINE addiction. Farking disgusting.

But this is Texas who has a judge violently beating his child (white judge) and faces no issues. go figure.

A Fark Handle: that's just texas-size stupid if the law is written like that.

It really was all kinds of stupid. They delayed the first case a year or so while the county bought equipment to analyze the evidence to figure the real amount of codeine though I think he eventually plea-bargained out of it.

Gee, there's absolutely no way whatsoever that his addictions had something to do with his line of work...

I hope this judge, and those who think like him, get what they deserve in the depths of Hell. This guy needs help. He's not a "threat," he's a farking addict.

Nice headline, negromitter.

While I am a firm believer in "do the crime do the time", and this is his 2nd chance, a 6 year football career ending sentence is farking stupid.

I hope the judge gets curable ball cancer. Curable by removal.

/dnrtfa, if it is a woman judge then cut her tits off or something

Evil Canadian: Yup, that sentence is totally excessive. My dear wife, who happens to be a pharmacist (from the US even) is appalled ... "It's only codeine.... You can get that with Tylenol OTC here in Canada" She's right too.

What a load of total carp. This guy has a problem, he farked up numerous times, but 6 years for possession, you've got to be kidding me.

/...Re-Hab maybe.

I'm a pharmacist too and shocked he's getting 6 years. Little kids in the inner city drink this shiat all the time...

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: AbbeySomeone: MBK: A Fark Handle: he wasn't even dealing. how the fark do we give someone six years for that? give him 90+ days of in-patient treatment and hope he can turn his life around. oh wait, i forgot that america has abandoned public health. what a stupid decision.

and it's not like his profession exposed him any sort of physical pain that might lead to addiction...

He's black and in Texas.

What do you expect?

The doctors that originally treated him with these drugs are the culprits. They started the addiction, and obviously they decided to cut him off.

I don't think he was started on it as a prescription. He was abusing Purple Drank, which is apparently huge in the Houston area and is a mix of codeine and promethazine (usually). My guess is some of his old high school buddies use the stuff, or he used it himself before his NFL days, and just went back to it in the off season.
In his original 2008 arrest (which he got probation for) he faced a max of 20 years. He could have gotten himself into rehab after that but chose not to - it's not like he didn't have the money to pay for it.

I feel bad for him, but it's not like he wasn't already given second and third chances, and didn't have money to get himself treatment.

Don't care. The sentence is still ridiculous. The fact that 20 years was even in play for the first instance is utterly reprehensible. Maybe we should start cutting off the hands of shoplifters while we're at it

Since when is there such a thing as too much Painkiller?

This is ridiculous:

He also was charged with tampering with evidence for attempting to conceal the substance from the investigating officers.

C'mon. If it would have been sitting in a bag already, would that be concealing?

AlHarris31: The guy is addicted. He needs help, not to be locked away with violent criminals. Our war on drugs is farked up and our prison system is farked up. Get this guy into a rehab program, he could turn it around. Instead his life is ruined. Meanwhile, Lindsey Lohan keeps getting caught doing drugs and never got more than 30 days. Pathetic.

nail on the head

I am heartened that this thread is full of people who understand how sad and unjust this guy's story is.

Dude's got a problem. Prison and persecution aren't going to fix it. He needs compassion and professional help. :/

Seriously, fark the broken system that treats black men (and other non-rich or non-white people) like this.

Inchoate: I am heartened that this thread is full of people who understand how sad and unjust this guy's story is.

Dude's got a problem. Prison and persecution aren't going to fix it. He needs compassion and professional help. :/

Seriously, fark the broken system that treats black men (and other non-rich or non-white people) like this.

I completely agree. Meanwhile a girl that was driving while texting, blew through a red light and killed a 2 year old and nearly killed the mother got 5 days. Yup, that's totally worse than trying to sooth your inner pains with codeine.

6 years.....for a drug...Who did he hurt, besides maybe himself?

You can kill people and get less than that.
We're so screwed up as a country that is defies belief.