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(Daily Mail) Followup Here is what the hell China was up to in the desert   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 74
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2011-11-17 10:05:32 AM
If society collapses and all written history is forgotten, then I bet this is going to freak out some future archaeologist.

/Not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.
 
2011-11-17 11:49:52 AM
RexTalionis: If society collapses and all written history is forgotten, then I bet this is going to freak out some future archaeologist.

/Not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.


You can say it was for "Men in Space".
 
2011-11-17 11:50:33 AM
So the Nazca markings were calibration marks for alien satellites? Makes sense now.
 
2011-11-17 11:51:49 AM
Some member of the central people's committee is either working on a) a nonsensical vanity project, b) busy work for his constituents, or c) dropping some serious acid
 
2011-11-17 11:53:57 AM
RexTalionis: If society collapses and all written history is forgotten, then I bet this is going to freak out some future archaeologist.

/Not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.


Oh boy, you are gonna get some 'Chariots of the Gods' bites from that.

/it must be aliens
 
2011-11-17 11:54:19 AM
Did that article just keep saying the same thing over and over, or do I need another cup of coffee?
 
2011-11-17 11:56:13 AM
pikapartykid: Did that article just keep saying the same thing over and over, or do I need another cup of coffee?

No, I got that impression, too.
 
2011-11-17 11:56:15 AM
www.toptenz.net

#obligatory, #hot
 
2011-11-17 11:56:52 AM
Seems a bit silly to try overlaying them on US cities. Makes much more sense to try overlaying them on japanese/vietanemese/taiwainese/korean cities, while measuring the distance between the symbols and the nearest chinese air force base. That would make much more sense, if the symbols had an authentic training purpose.
 
2011-11-17 11:58:11 AM
pikapartykid: Did that article just keep saying the same thing over and over, or do I need another cup of coffee?

You need another cup of coffee.

You should get another cup of coffee.

Coffee in a cup will help you sort things out.

Why don't you go get your cup, and fill it with coffee? That's what you need.
 
2011-11-17 11:58:37 AM
asmodeus224: RexTalionis: If society collapses and all written history is forgotten, then I bet this is going to freak out some future archaeologist.

/Not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.

Oh boy, you are gonna get some 'Chariots of the Gods' bites from that.

/it must be aliens


I've always thought that, if it was monetarily feasible, we should start building mysterious and weird structures around the world for no apparent reason and then destroy all records of them after they're built. Just so we can screw with future archaeologists who would have to formulate some sort of weirdass theory about us.

/Actually, come to think of it, imagine how weirded out an alien civilization would be if they find the celebrity foot and handprints in Hollywood? They'll have no idea what would possess people to do that.
 
2011-11-17 11:59:09 AM
On a list of all the countries to fear having to go to war with, I'd put China very near the bottom.
 
2011-11-17 12:01:42 PM
I hear that China is trying to develop spy satellite capability
 
2011-11-17 12:02:39 PM
I hear China already has spy satellite capabilities
 
2011-11-17 12:06:39 PM
Also, anyone reminded of the Cowboy Bebop episode where a bored satellite system AI decided it would carve recreations of the Nazca lines onto the planet?
 
2011-11-17 12:07:00 PM
Guidette Frankentits: I hear China already has spy satellite capabilities

harbor frieght sells spy tools
 
2011-11-17 12:10:25 PM
NWO
 
2011-11-17 12:14:45 PM
I here that China is developing some sort of "fried" rice technology.
 
2011-11-17 12:17:30 PM
bikerbob: NWO

D-Generation X
 
2011-11-17 12:18:56 PM
RexTalionis: I've always thought that, if it was monetarily feasible, we should start building mysterious and weird structures around the world for no apparent reason and then destroy all records of them after they're built. Just so we can screw with future archaeologists who would have to formulate some sort of weirdass theory about us.

Wow, trolling future civilizations. Kinky. I like it.
 
2011-11-17 12:22:19 PM
haywatchthis: Guidette Frankentits: I hear China already has spy satellite capabilities

harbor frieght sells spy tools


you've confused spy with crappy.
 
2011-11-17 12:22:41 PM
VictoryCabal: RexTalionis: I've always thought that, if it was monetarily feasible, we should start building mysterious and weird structures around the world for no apparent reason and then destroy all records of them after they're built. Just so we can screw with future archaeologists who would have to formulate some sort of weirdass theory about us.

Wow, trolling future civilizations. Kinky. I like it.


I think we have enough weird stuff naturally to confuse the heck out of them. Particularly if plastic septic tanks really do last forever.
 
2011-11-17 12:24:28 PM
Scan it with your smart phone and you get a free serving of lead when you visit China
 
2011-11-17 12:25:53 PM
RexTalionis: If Whensociety collapses and all written history is forgotten, then I bet this is going to freak out some future archaeologist.

/Not saying it was aliens, but it was aliens.



FTFY

/wouldn't be the first time society has collapsed. Won't be the last.
 
2011-11-17 12:29:39 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

Just this guy inflicting more of his "art" on the world.
 
2011-11-17 12:29:47 PM
We should figure out when the satellite will pass so we can all moon it
 
2011-11-17 12:29:54 PM
img408.imageshack.us

/aliens
 
2011-11-17 12:30:30 PM
lenfromak: So the Nazca markings were calibration marks for alien satellites? Makes sense now.


www.atlantisbolivia.org

Yes, as do these ancient grid patterns in the Bolivian Altiplano.

See? It wasn't "aliens"! It was satellites!
 
2011-11-17 12:31:20 PM
I would have thought it would be easy enough to use street grid of your cities to calibrate any space cameras. Can't be hard to get the exact distance between visible markings, even if you had to paint a white line down the middle of a road.
 
2011-11-17 12:31:23 PM
RexTalionis:
I've always thought that, if it was monetarily feasible, we should start building mysterious and weird structures around the world for no apparent reason and then destroy all records of them after they're built. Just so we can screw with future archaeologists who would have to formulate some sort of weirdass theory about us.


I would so help you. When do we start?
 
2011-11-17 12:35:44 PM
Gee, I thought they were building a 1:1 scale model of Google Maps.

Where are the American spy satellite test patterns? I've seen some odd things in deserts but it seems to me that there are cheaper ways to calibrate satellites, such as doing it before you put them up. The mystery isn't so much what they did, but why. Is slave labor so cheap they can build these things on a grand scale without thought to the cost?
 
2011-11-17 12:39:10 PM
brantgoose: Gee, I thought they were building a 1:1 scale model of Google Maps.

Where are the American spy satellite test patterns? I've seen some odd things in deserts but it seems to me that there are cheaper ways to calibrate satellites, such as doing it before you put them up. The mystery isn't so much what they did, but why. Is slave labor so cheap they can build these things on a grand scale without thought to the cost?



The truth is that the Chinese are also trying to figure out what the hell these things are.

i.dailymail.co.uk

Crap circles?
 
2011-11-17 12:40:14 PM
So, if I read the article correctly, we tested our Corona spy satellites over Casa Grande?
 
2011-11-17 12:42:02 PM
Unobtanium: So, if I read the article correctly, we tested our Corona spy satellites over Casa Grande?

We never got over Casa Grande.
 
2011-11-17 12:42:26 PM
from TFA:

'The grids of zigzagging white lines seen in two of the images - the strangest of the various desert structures - are spy satellite calibration targets. Satellite cameras focus on the grids, which measure approximately 0.65 miles wide by 1.15 miles long, and use them to orient themselves in space,'

/not for targeting
/not meant to represent cities
/spacial orienting bar-codes
 
2011-11-17 12:46:05 PM
Modguy: Seems a bit silly to try overlaying them on US cities. Makes much more sense to try overlaying them on japanese/vietanemese/taiwainese/korean cities, while measuring the distance between the symbols and the nearest chinese air force base. That would make much more sense, if the symbols had an authentic training purpose.

Yeah, I'd try to match them to possible military/political targets in Taiwan. The PRC has no military designs on the US: It couldn't possibly fly any aircraft to bomb the continental US, nor get a carrier close enough to launch such an attack, even if they manage to get that single flattop up and running in the next decade. Even targets like Guam would be stretching it. No, Taiwan is a prickly thorn to them politically, and if they ever get serious, that's where they are going to go. Try to match them to that.
 
2011-11-17 12:54:31 PM
brantgoose: Gee, I thought they were building a 1:1 scale model of Google Maps.

Where are the American spy satellite test patterns? I've seen some odd things in deserts but it seems to me that there are cheaper ways to calibrate satellites, such as doing it before you put them up. The mystery isn't so much what they did, but why. Is slave labor so cheap they can build these things on a grand scale without thought to the cost?


Do you understand what "calibrate" means? Launching something into space and then releasing it into orbit might be enough to void any calibration that was done before you load it onto a rocket.
 
2011-11-17 12:56:11 PM
This is just another example of Obama's weakness. Just sitting by allowing the Chinese to calibrate their spy satellites so they can further infiltrate the US economy and wield their unrestricted influence on our freedom.
 
M-G
2011-11-17 12:59:47 PM
pikapartykid: Did that article just keep saying the same thing over and over, or do I need another cup of coffee?

Like most Daily Fail articles, yes. They also seem to state that Google now has their own satellite fleet.....
 
2011-11-17 01:07:20 PM
The Chinese have their own Black Rock Desert?
 
2011-11-17 01:07:21 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-17 01:14:02 PM
theknuckler_33: This is just another example of Obama's weakness. Just sitting by allowing the Chinese to calibrate their spy satellites so they can further infiltrate the US economy and wield their unrestricted influence on our freedom.

China is the model for the world. In the USA, the right to assembly is being crushed; the Internet is on the verge of censorship; the legislative body of the most powerful nation in human history is about to declare pizza a vegetable. We are no longer citizens, we're the sane inmates in an asylum run by psycopaths and sociopaths. Go figure.
 
2011-11-17 01:14:14 PM
TigerStar: [i.imgur.com image 400x748]

Whyarethereblackpeople.jpg


Cain and Abel. Cain was made black to show the world the guilt of his crime.
 
2011-11-17 01:22:59 PM
i still don't get it. How do you calibrate a spy satellite using these crazy big patterns in the desert? You point the satellite at it and say well, the left most border is at xx degrees longitude, xx degrees latitude and the top border is at xx degrees longitude, xx degrees latitude and they are xx miles from the bottom and right borders. I guess you identify where it is pointing exactly. Also, then, you can check distance measurements. But what is up with all the random lines zig zagging in side the damn thing? What are they there for?
 
2011-11-17 01:28:34 PM
Mixolydian Master:
Cain and Abel. Cain was made black to show the world the guilt of his crime.


Then who did he marry, since the Bible says that Cain married and had a son.

/I just love that question.
 
2011-11-17 01:32:23 PM
SlothB77: i still don't get it. How do you calibrate a spy satellite using these crazy big patterns in the desert? You point the satellite at it and say well, the left most border is at xx degrees longitude, xx degrees latitude and the top border is at xx degrees longitude, xx degrees latitude and they are xx miles from the bottom and right borders. I guess you identify where it is pointing exactly. Also, then, you can check distance measurements. But what is up with all the random lines zig zagging in side the damn thing? What are they there for?

Distance + knowing what the image *should* look like at that distance and angle + what the spy satellite optics actually see = data to adjust the focus and aperture.

It's a standards based test for optics. Location is easy to do. So are distance and movement. Making sure the camera sees what it is supposed to be seeing is different.

Imagine going to an eye doctor without a standard character chart and testing range based criteria. Same thing. They need to know what they are *supposed* to be seeing vs what they actually *are* seeing. Then optics can be adjusted once in orbit.

/had to put contact lenses on Hubble
 
2011-11-17 01:34:18 PM
Mixolydian Master: TigerStar: [i.imgur.com image 400x748]

Whyarethereblackpeople.jpg


Cain and Abel. Cain was made black to show the world the guilt of his crime.


Still, if Cain was the only black man, he would, presumably, only be able to mate with a white female. This would make their children only half-black. I'm sure over the course of a few generations, the black would be diluted to nothing.

/Bible and genetics; the original retcon.
 
2011-11-17 01:36:53 PM
cryinoutloud: Mixolydian Master:
Cain and Abel. Cain was made black to show the world the guilt of his crime.

Then who did he marry, since the Bible says that Cain married and had a son.

/I just love that question.


If I recall correctly, there's rejected manuscripts that explain that Adam and Eve had more than two children.

/Not religious, just like Jewish Mythology.
 
2011-11-17 01:41:06 PM
TigerStar: [i.imgur.com image 400x748]

Not religious, but stop confusing evolution with natural selection. It just weakens your argument.By the way who says Adam and Eve were white? Artists have simply depicted them as the same race as they were.
 
2011-11-17 01:46:28 PM
cryinoutloud: Mixolydian Master:
Cain and Abel. Cain was made black to show the world the guilt of his crime.

Then who did he marry, since the Bible says that Cain married and had a son.

/I just love that question.


A woman from the land of Nod.
 
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