Way ahead of you, esse

Suck it, Trebek.

What is meh?

Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

Cool.

Michael Paul Larson is not amused.

mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

There is some strategy in selecting the clues. He found the right squares and got the answers right. And won five days in a row.

The Tournament Of Champions will be the challenge

chewielouie: Suck it, Trebek.

Gunny Highway: mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

There is some strategy in selecting the clues. He found the right squares and got the answers right. And won five days in a row.

The Tournament Of Champions will be the challenge


Check out the embedded youtube clip in the comments section of TFA. In consecutive clues, he correctly answers both DDs in DJ, raising his score from $9,000 to $36,000, leaving him with a ~$29,000 lead. In the ToC. Final (Day 1).

/Kid's got balls...

Finally someone with some balls. Nothing irritates me more than some pussy not actually daily doubling when they get the chance. It shoud be farking mandatory.

mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

He won 5 games in a row. Not only did he know how to choose the squares to get a higher probability of getting the DD, but he knew how to bet (how many other people actually go all in on those?). How about you give him some credit.

He was annoying to watch, something about his mannerisms,hand gestures and his responses to Trebek made my wife and I cringe.

"You missed the best part of this episode. The money is nothing compared to when he trolls Alex when Alex tells him he can break the one day record by wagering everything in Final Jeopardy. With a smug grin, Roger asks him "Oh? What's the daily record?" Knowing damn well what it was, because he's the guy who set it."

Loomy: Gunny Highway: mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

There is some strategy in selecting the clues. He found the right squares and got the answers right. And won five days in a row.

The Tournament Of Champions will be the challenge


Check out the embedded youtube clip in the comments section of TFA. In consecutive clues, he correctly answers both DDs in DJ, raising his score from $9,000 to $36,000, leaving him with a ~$29,000 lead. In the ToC. Final (Day 1).

/Kid's got balls...

Well that settles that.

/ToC is on the Tivo
//I am sorely behind on my Jeopardy!

moralpanic: mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

He won 5 games in a row. Not only did he know how to choose the squares to get a higher probability of getting the DD, but he knew how to bet (how many other people actually go all in on those?). How about you give him some credit.

OK, credit given. But not much, because it still isn't that exciting (though true DD's back to back was cool to watch).

The short answer is: he studied, both the game and for the game. Lots of people do that. Not exciting. "Web apps" and "smart phones" or whatever doesn't make it any more so.

Gunny Highway: mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

There is some strategy in selecting the clues. He found the right squares and got the answers right. And won five days in a row.

The Tournament Of Champions will be the challenge

Um, that WAS the ToC.

IIRC, did really well, won big the first day and bombed along with everyone else the third day. I think he won the ToC. Is that correct?

Also, I'm a little bit dissapoint that there was no Fark story about the guy who drew a Rageface for his answer when he didn't have a clue on Final Jeopardy.

/I do recall there being a story when the first person wagered $1337

Fireproof: Gunny Highway: mekki: Yes, he did create a program that helped him out, somewhat. But, come on, subby. The real reason he won was because of luck. He kept on finding the daily double questions. If he had not then the other people might have had a fighting chance.

There is some strategy in selecting the clues. He found the right squares and got the answers right. And won five days in a row.

The Tournament Of Champions will be the challenge

Um, that WAS the ToC.

IIRC, did really well, won big the first day and bombed along with everyone else the third day. I think he won the ToC. Is that correct?

Yeah, this dude won the ToC winning 250,000 he curb-stomped the competition with daily doubles. On day 2 of the ToC everyone got the final jeopardy question wrong. As soon as Tom missed it, Roger was going to win.

I think prior to ToC Day 2 starting, Roger was @ 50,000 and Tom, his closest competitor was @ $16k a real farking lead if you ask me. Bobby had ~6k.

Good for him though, he played reallllly well.

What is a hoe?

dryknife: What is a hoe?

Best single Jeopardy moment EVAR

But this is my favorite episode


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The thin that everyone overlpols is the ability to buzz in first.

Jennings, for example, probably wasn't totally incredibly smarter than anyone, but when he knew an answer...he was the first to buzz in.

You could be smart as hell, but a split second fast on the buzzer and lock yourself out every time.

H31N0US: Way ahead of you, esse

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What is Mount Vesuviusssses ?

bulldg4life: The thin that everyone overlpols is the ability to buzz in first.

Jennings, for example, probably wasn't totally incredibly smarter than anyone, but when he knew an answer...he was the first to buzz in.

You could be smart as hell, but a split second fast on the buzzer and lock yourself out every time.

It's the same reason Watson was able to curbstomp Jennings and Ritter. The computer had a reaction time of practically zero to buzz in when it knew the answer, and was programmed to never lock itself out.

bulldg4life: The thin that everyone overlpols is the ability to buzz in first.

You buzzed?

Guelph35: Jennings and Rutter

FTFM, at least the U and I are right next to each other...

bulldg4life: The thin that everyone overlpols is the ability to buzz in first.

Jennings, for example, probably wasn't totally incredibly smarter than anyone, but when he knew an answer...he was the first to buzz in.

You could be smart as hell, but a split second fast on the buzzer and lock yourself out every time.

...which was demonstrated when Watson cleaned his and Brad's clocks. They're fast on the button, but not faster than a computer.

Who is pon?

Ctrl-Alt-Del: dryknife: What is a hoe?

Best single Jeopardy moment EVAR

But this is my favorite episode

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In response to that failure, I give you this story of failure on Jeopardy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBrYty844Y

IlGreven: ..which was demonstrated when Watson cleaned his and Brad's clocks. They're fast on the button, but not faster than a computer.

Actually the reason Watson won is because on the first day, they had incredibly easy questions that he could answer quickly, much more quickly than a human. Subsequent days when the complexity of the questions stepped up, Brad and Ken got much closer. It's just that Watson had the insurmountable lead by then.

Do you know the way to Mordor: Ctrl-Alt-Del: dryknife: What is a hoe?

Best single Jeopardy moment EVAR

But this is my favorite episode

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In response to that failure, I give you this story of failure on Jeopardy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBrYty844Y

Heh. I thought that was going to be a link to Cliff Clavins appearance on Jeopardy. I forgot that song even existed.

IlGreven: bulldg4life: The thin that everyone overlpols is the ability to buzz in first.

Jennings, for example, probably wasn't totally incredibly smarter than anyone, but when he knew an answer...he was the first to buzz in.

You could be smart as hell, but a split second fast on the buzzer and lock yourself out every time.

...which was demonstrated when Watson cleaned his and Brad's clocks. They're fast on the button, but not faster than a computer.

Didn't they make a little video segment on how they programmed a 'response time' into WATSON, such that there was a delay between when he breached the confidence threshold required to even consider buzzing in, and the actual act of buzzing?

(...Googles...)

This MetaFilter thread (^) has some info:

- WATSON could not lock himself out by buzzing early
- They rigged some kind of solenoid actuated buzzer system to replicate the actual depressing of the buzzer button, but I'm not sure about any delay associated with 'reaction time'

I think the problem was that WATSON received the clue in text as soon as is appeared on screen, and was able to have an answer ready by the time Alex finished reading (which is when the 'it's okay to buzz in now' signal is activated). If WATSON was confident in his answer, the only way for humans to ring in first would be to anticipate the actions of the human Jeopardy! employee responsible for flipping the switch to allow buzz-ins (done as Alex finished the clue).

So, anytime WATSON was not confident enough in his answer, it was just a regular game, but when he was, it was a crapshoot on the buzzer.

/still some of my favourite Jeopady! episodes...
//After Ken's run...
///Definitely after the 'hoe' episode....

drewogatory: Finally someone with some balls. Nothing irritates me more than some pussy not actually daily doubling when they get the chance. It shoud be farking mandatory.

What irritates me on Jeopardy is when a contestant wagers all their money in Final Jeopardy on an answer like "?" or "[blank]". If you don't have an answer, don't bid any money! You can still win with a wrong answer by having the most money! Why do they blow it all on an obviously wrong answer?

Didn't Doogie Howser do the same thing?

FuryOfFirestorm: drewogatory: Finally someone with some balls. Nothing irritates me more than some pussy not actually daily doubling when they get the chance. It shoud be farking mandatory.

What irritates me on Jeopardy is when a contestant wagers all their money in Final Jeopardy on an answer like "?" or "[blank]". If you don't have an answer, don't bid any money! You can still win with a wrong answer by having the most money! Why do they blow it all on an obviously wrong answer?

Uhhh, they bet before the question comes up?

FuryOfFirestorm: drewogatory: Finally someone with some balls. Nothing irritates me more than some pussy not actually daily doubling when they get the chance. It shoud be farking mandatory.

What irritates me on Jeopardy is when a contestant wagers all their money in Final Jeopardy on an answer like "?" or "[blank]". If you don't have an answer, don't bid any money! You can still win with a wrong answer by having the most money! Why do they blow it all on an obviously wrong answer?

The wager they make happens before they see the answer.

ActionJoe: The wager they make happens before they see the answer.

Oh, that makes sense. I wasn't aware. The show makes it look like they write in the wager at the same time as the answer.

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Do you know the way to Mordor: Ctrl-Alt-Del: dryknife: What is a hoe?

Best single Jeopardy moment EVAR

But this is my favorite episode

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Clicky for video

In response to that failure, I give you this story of failure on Jeopardy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSBrYty844Y

Heh. I thought that was going to be a link to Cliff Clavins appearance on Jeopardy. I forgot that song even existed.

Glad you enjoyed it!

FuryOfFirestorm: ActionJoe: The wager they make happens before they see the answer.

Oh, that makes sense. I wasn't aware. The show makes it look like they write in the wager at the same time as the answer.


I think I know what the problem was: you were watching w/ the sound turned off.

Seriously though, every episode, just as they reveal the Final Jeopardy category, Alex will ask/tell/prompt the contestants to make their wagers based on that category.

Now that you know, it can be fun* to see how certain contestants play the wager game. Many players have screwed themselves out of contention by wagering an 'everyone gets it right' amount in an 'everyone gets it wrong' situation (or vice versa).

I'm still waiting for the day when someone in a run-away position attempts to maximize their winnings by wagering such that they win by $1 even in the worst case scenario, but gets the math wrong.

/*Nerd fun, not real fun

Sorry, subby, I can't accept that as a correct headline, you didn't post it as a question.

Loomy:

Now that you know, it can be fun* to see how certain contestants play the wager game. Many players have screwed themselves out of contention by wagering an 'everyone gets it right' amount in an 'everyone gets it wrong' situation (or vice versa).

I'm still waiting for the day when someone in a run-away position attempts to maximize their winnings by wagering such that they win by $1 even in the worst case scenario, but gets the math wrong.

/*Nerd fun, not real fun

Not the same thing, but math fail prevented a three-way tie some years ago. I don't remember the exact dollar amounts, so just bear with me....

End of Double Jeopardy
Returning Champion: $16,000
Challenger A: $8,000.
Challenger B: $8,000.

Final Jeopardy is played out. Champion was correct and wagered nothing to lock at least a tie. Challenger A was correct and all-in, to tie at $16,000. Challenger B was also correct... but wagered $7,999 and lost by $1.

unimpressed... (new window)

buckeyebrain: FuryOfFirestorm: drewogatory: Finally someone with some balls. Nothing irritates me more than some pussy not actually daily doubling when they get the chance. It shoud be farking mandatory.

What irritates me on Jeopardy is when a contestant wagers all their money in Final Jeopardy on an answer like "?" or "[blank]". If you don't have an answer, don't bid any money! You can still win with a wrong answer by having the most money! Why do they blow it all on an obviously wrong answer?

Uhhh, they bet before the question comes up?

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buckeyebrain: Loomy:

Now that you know, it can be fun* to see how certain contestants play the wager game. Many players have screwed themselves out of contention by wagering an 'everyone gets it right' amount in an 'everyone gets it wrong' situation (or vice versa).

I'm still waiting for the day when someone in a run-away position attempts to maximize their winnings by wagering such that they win by $1 even in the worst case scenario, but gets the math wrong.

/*Nerd fun, not real fun

Not the same thing, but math fail prevented a three-way tie some years ago. I don't remember the exact dollar amounts, so just bear with me....

End of Double Jeopardy
Returning Champion: $16,000
Challenger A: $8,000.
Challenger B: $8,000.

Final Jeopardy is played out. Champion was correct and wagered nothing to lock at least a tie. Challenger A was correct and all-in, to tie at $16,000. Challenger B was also correct... but wagered $7,999 and lost by $1.

Actually, it did happen. (new window)

IlGreven: Actually, it did happen. (new window)

I know it eventually happened, but it could have happened about a year or so prior to that. Now that I'm home, maybe I can dig a little bit.

buckeyebrain: IlGreven: Actually, it did happen. (new window)

I know it eventually happened, but it could have happened about a year or so prior to that. Now that I'm home, maybe I can dig a little bit.

Okay, I had the situation wrong (though I could have sworn that I saw the scenario I pointed out above). But in this game (new window), all three contestants ended Double Jeopardy in a three-way tie at $5,200. Both challengers bet it all and won. The returning champ only bet $5,000.

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