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(CBS News) Followup McQueary: "I spoke with the Police". Campus and State Police: "Yeah, about that"   (cbsnews.com) divider line 170
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2011-11-16 08:45:56 PM

1) He is full of shiat.

2) The article makes no sense. It says the university police received no report, then next paragraph says they are checking with the university police. Is there something I'm missing?

But a spokesperson for Penn State's campus police told CBS News that they never received a sex abuse report from McQueary. Separately, State College Police Chief Thomas R. King told CBS News that his department has no record of ever being contacted by McQueary regarding allged sex abuse.


The university also has its own police force. Penn State administrators said they were looking into whether McQueary contacted campus police. A university official also told CBS News Tuesday that, to her knowledge, no police report was filed.
 
2011-11-16 09:07:38 PM
McQueary was putting sneakers into his locker late on a Friday night when, the jury said, he saw Sandusky having sex with a young boy.

Doesn't the grand jury say he was getting recruitment tapes?
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2011-11-16 09:13:52 PM
Gwendolyn: Doesn't the grand jury say he was getting recruitment tapes?

No, it says he was putting newly purchased shoes in a locker.
 
2011-11-16 09:14:02 PM
Well that nicely casts doubt on the whole thing. Well, would without that bizarre Sandusky phone call. I'm sure all the people here will immediately fall back from their 'JoePa deserves to burn for not being the police.'
 
2011-11-16 09:19:24 PM
feckingmorons: 1) He is full of shiat.

2) The article makes no sense. It says the university police received no report, then next paragraph says they are checking with the university police. Is there something I'm missing?

But a spokesperson for Penn State's campus police told CBS News that they never received a sex abuse report from McQueary. Separately, State College Police Chief Thomas R. King told CBS News that his department has no record of ever being contacted by McQueary regarding allged sex abuse.


The university also has its own police force. Penn State administrators said they were looking into whether McQueary contacted campus police. A university official also told CBS News Tuesday that, to her knowledge, no police report was filed.


I think McQueary briefly imagined he was a Spartan coach.
 
2011-11-16 09:25:49 PM
I am more apt to believe he is lying now vs. lying to the grand jury. Admitting he did nothing but run and call his dad and coach after seeing a child get raped is ruinous no matter how you slice it. Why not just lie and say you went to the cops from the beginning. Because he could not. Too easy to find the police report.

I think he is trying to save face. He did not realize his "friend" would let others read it.
 
2011-11-16 09:33:13 PM
NFA: Gwendolyn: Doesn't the grand jury say he was getting recruitment tapes?

No, it says he was putting newly purchased shoes in a locker.


I googled it. It says he was putting new shoes in his locker AND getting tapes.
 
2011-11-16 10:30:36 PM
Gwendolyn: getting tapes.

mix tapes
probably
 
2011-11-16 10:56:23 PM
Wow. My first greenlit article! I haz a happy.
 
2011-11-16 11:37:51 PM
Did he mean the band "The Police"?
 
2011-11-16 11:38:44 PM
i44.tinypic.com
 
2011-11-17 12:14:38 AM
I don't think he's necessarily lying in his email, I think he's being rather vague because he's trying to not be the guy that let a 10 year old get butt raped in a shower. He basically says I made sure it stopped. Well, does that mean you made it stop right then or does that mean you made it stop as in it didn't happen again (at least to that kid). I'm inclined to believe that he stopped in the sense that it didn't happen again. Remember the Governor was on MTP Sunday and said that McQueary failed his moral obligation or somesuch. The Governor initially started the investigation so he may have some inside knowledge as to his testimony

Further, remember the VP of Finance is somehow over Campus PD. So if he talked to Paterno and then they talked with the VP, then he can technically get away with saying he talking to the Police about it. Sure, it's a huuuuuuuuuuuuuge stretch on his part but one could argue it's technically correct

And finally, I'm pretty sure that McQueary is gonna take the fall on this for the VP's and Paterno
 
2011-11-17 03:15:42 AM
Either way, JoePa deserves to burn.
 
2011-11-17 03:15:45 AM
Maybe he spoke to this guy?

btvcdn.zonecontent.com
 
2011-11-17 03:22:00 AM
vinnybang: Wow. My first greenlit article! I haz a happy.

Congratulations, just watch how your life is going to change now.
 
2011-11-17 03:31:02 AM
His hair is already on fire, now his pants are.

I'm extremely put off by the fact that he didn't include, and hasn't said, which police department he told. I'm pretty sure I and most anyone else would remember quite a few details of that episode, including which freakin' law-enforcement authority I spoke to.

/wonder if he knows anything about that poor girl who was raped and murdered in 1990.
 
2011-11-17 03:49:11 AM
Something McQeery about this whole thing.
 
2011-11-17 03:54:31 AM
If I were in his shoes and saw what he said he saw, my first and only reaction would be to call the police. If I were JoePa and heard what I heard, my first and only reaction would be to call the police.

I think the Daily Show's photoshopped image of Paterno wearing a pope's hat (forgot what they're really called) was right on.
 
2011-11-17 03:56:04 AM
I dunno that I'd trust the university police to be honest... I've seen plenty of cases where they ignore crime reports to keep campus crime statistics low... I think this might just have bit them in the ass and they'd rather he goes down for it than they do.
 
2011-11-17 03:56:32 AM
Don't dismiss his claim so quickly. I know how in some departments I worked, how someone politically connected could be protected, by some higher-up making sure an official report wasn't filed.

"You know, if I have to report this, it might drag you into something worse." "Tell you what, we will investigate this some more, make sure everyone, including you is protected, and find out what's going on." "We will get back to you, if we need more info,"

"Mmmmmmm, ok?"

And then the higher-ups tell the investigating officer/detective, "Yeah, we are going to pass this on to...the State Police, the other Division, to the Feds, to the Hair Club for Men..."

The investigating officer, who is a few years shy of his penison and knows how the higher-ups will protect someone with, PARDON THE PHRASE, the "JUICE" that Sandusky had, will be thrilled to hand it over.
 
2011-11-17 03:56:32 AM
and paterno sold his house to his wife for a dollar but not cuz of this scandal thing....
 
2011-11-17 03:59:29 AM
If he didn't walk up and beat the ever loving shiat out of a child rapist the second he saw it, he didn't do what he was suppose to. I don't care who he.talked to. He should have been explaining the dead rapist, not this happy horse crap.
 
2011-11-17 04:11:53 AM
feckingmorons: 1) He is full of shiat.

2) The article makes no sense. It says the university police received no report, then next paragraph says they are checking with the university police. Is there something I'm missing?

But a spokesperson for Penn State's campus police told CBS News that they never received a sex abuse report from McQueary. Separately, State College Police Chief Thomas R. King told CBS News that his department has no record of ever being contacted by McQueary regarding allged sex abuse.


The university also has its own police force. Penn State administrators said they were looking into whether McQueary contacted campus police. A university official also told CBS News Tuesday that, to her knowledge, no police report was filed.


The name of the town where the university is located is called State College.

http://www.google.com/search?q=state+college&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&r l s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
 
2011-11-17 04:23:09 AM
earthworm2.0: If he didn't walk up and beat the ever loving shiat out of a child rapist the second he saw it, he didn't do what he was suppose to. I don't care who he.talked to. He should have been explaining the dead rapist, not this happy horse crap.

Thank you. Really, who gives a fark what the guy did. We already know what he didn't do.
 
2011-11-17 04:30:19 AM
McQueary is being set up as the fall guy for everything and everyone, minus the actual rapes/rapist of course.

He's the only guy who wasn't "fired," his statements are being leaked (and focused upon), and in this case statements of his were very swiftly called into question by authorities.

I don't know what he did or didn't do, I don't know who he told or didn't tell, but I am pretty sure he will pay when others who knew (and had more legal authority to do something) won't pay nearly as severe a penalty. I only wonder how deep the rabbit hole goes.
 
2011-11-17 04:31:03 AM
This whole issue is FAIL on everyone's part
McQueary, Paterno, Spanier - the School- anyone who knew about what Sandusky was doing and did nothing
and also knew that nothing was being done about it

the guy worked with kids and had a charity for wayward kids, and he was raping them...
people knew about it -
This whole thing is awful - and it has ruined a good school - and made me ashamed to be associated with it

at some point SOMEONE has to sack up and say, it's either him...or me
it couldn't be easier, all you have to do is whisper child abuse in a crowded room, someone will listen
call the cops - send a letter, an email...

Joe is a disgrace - he ran the show, if he knew that a kid was abused in his locker room...even ONCE
i don't care what the politics are
You tell someone
To protect your ass, and your legacy
To protect the reputation of a fine school
To protect the kids
Joe is scum
They all are...


/absolutely disgusting and abhorrent
 
2011-11-17 04:44:22 AM
I'm giving McQueary the benefit of the doubt here. Think about how farked up you'd be if you walked in the locker room and saw that. He freaked out and told several people and if he says he spoke to someone in the police department I believe him. McQueary isn't the the one that was doing the abusing, and he was probably traumatized himself for having to see that.
 
2011-11-17 04:45:10 AM
Good idea - let's all focus on this guy and take the attention off a child rapist.
 
2011-11-17 04:48:34 AM
firefly212: I dunno that I'd trust the university police to be honest... I've seen plenty of cases where they ignore crime reports... I think this might just have bit them in the ass and they'd rather he goes down for it than they do.

Agreed.

Reported to campus police =/= Police putting anything in writing
 
2011-11-17 05:02:46 AM
earthworm2.0: If he didn't walk up and beat the ever loving shiat out of a child rapist the second he saw it, he didn't do what he was suppose to. I don't care who he.talked to. He should have been explaining the dead rapist, not this happy horse crap.

Absolutely agreed.

That said, being a coward isn't illegal, so why is the media focusing on him rather than the rapist?
 
2011-11-17 05:10:34 AM
Fluorescent Testicle: earthworm2.0: If he didn't walk up and beat the ever loving shiat out of a child rapist the second he saw it, he didn't do what he was suppose to. I don't care who he.talked to. He should have been explaining the dead rapist, not this happy horse crap.

Absolutely agreed.

That said, being a coward isn't illegal, so why is the media focusing on him rather than the rapist?


Maybe they're looking for ways to destroy his credibility as a witness.
 
2011-11-17 05:18:56 AM
This entire ordeal stinks, and now the police trying to distance themselves from such smells of cover-up to protect themselves. I sincerely hope that I am wrong.
 
2011-11-17 05:21:00 AM
McQeary is going to have to testify agajnst Sandusky, and he should STFU. Hes trying to save his job but the more crap he says that makes no sense the harder it will be to prosecute Sandusky. He shouldnt have let Sandusky leave with the child, he should have reported it to the police, etc. The best he can hope for is to be known for doing the right thing now.
 
2011-11-17 05:51:34 AM
Fluorescent Testicle: That said, being a coward isn't illegal, so why is the media focusing on him rather than the rapist?

They are competing for the attention of the public. And the public cares more about the football angle. I'm not happy about it, but there it is.
 
2011-11-17 05:53:28 AM
vinnybang: I am more apt to believe he is lying now vs. lying to the grand jury. Admitting he did nothing but run and call his dad and coach after seeing a child get raped is ruinous no matter how you slice it. Why not just lie and say you went to the cops from the beginning. Because he could not. Too easy to find the police report.

I think he is trying to save face. He did not realize his "friend" would let others read it.


Yep. What he's willing to say under penalty of perjury ≠ what he's willing to say to reporters during a media firestorm. That was my take on it.

He may also be trying to weasel into arguing that he told the cops by talking to the university president, who's also the head of the University Park Police (right?).

He's trying to save his reputation at this point.
 
2011-11-17 05:55:07 AM
GAT_00: Well that nicely casts doubt on the whole thing. Well, would without that bizarre Sandusky phone call. I'm sure all the people here will immediately fall back from their 'JoePa deserves to burn for not being the police.'

Wait, are you saying Joe Paterno shouldnt be held accountable for not doing anything?
 
2011-11-17 06:02:55 AM
It's really a shame what is happening here. McQuery tells everyone that he walked in on a child being raped, walked away shrugging his shoulders, gets ripped a new one for being subhuman (as anyone who turns a blind eye to that *is*), gets embarassed, and changes his story. He's handing Sandusky reasonable-doubt on a plate.
 
2011-11-17 06:09:59 AM
And NOW we are just to believe what the police say?
 
2011-11-17 06:14:20 AM
Sid_6.7: Did he mean the band "The Police"?

Don't stand so close to me.

/cough
 
2011-11-17 06:15:06 AM
Just because the police say they have no record of McQueary making a report, doesn't mean he's lying.....I think he's lying, but I hope he's telling the truth.
 
2011-11-17 06:17:29 AM
His 8 November email to his friend was self-serving and has no credibility. He wrote it after the grand jury findings.

If I were Sandusky's attorney and had McQueary on the stand, I'd ask him the obvious question: Are you lying now or were you lying then?

I'm just trying to figure out if McQueary is at the Gate of Hell or in Circle 8.
 
2011-11-17 06:20:04 AM
One time at football camp...
 
2011-11-17 06:22:49 AM
State College, PA-
To use a cliche-
Should be nuked from orbit,
It's the only way
(to be sure)
And once again,
make the place pure.
 
2011-11-17 06:24:49 AM
GDubDub: It's really a shame what is happening here. McQuery tells everyone that he walked in on a child being raped, walked away shrugging his shoulders, gets ripped a new one for being subhuman (as anyone who turns a blind eye to that *is*), gets embarassed, and changes his story. He's handing Sandusky reasonable-doubt on a plate.

Except the Grand Jury report has like NINE victims. They don't need his testimony.
 
2011-11-17 06:24:55 AM
AbbeySomeone: Good idea - let's all focus on this guy and take the attention off a child rapist.

As was said previously in the thread, maybe this is the point.....this guy who only saw something that happened, and happened over a decade ago, should not be the point of this. Orchestrated?

I can't swallow the decade-long interval here between crime and charges, or the number of people who had to have known.
 
2011-11-17 06:29:01 AM
GAT_00: Well that nicely casts doubt on the whole thing. Well, would without that bizarre Sandusky phone call. I'm sure all the people here will immediately fall back from their 'JoePa deserves to burn for not being the police.'

You're wrong as usual. Allow me to retort:


The reason Paterno got fired is that he admitted he knew about Sanduskys behavior and took no action other than calling higher ups, and then proceeded to act that he notfollow.through, and ultimately made the witness an assistant coach.

No other information was needed to fire him other than what he said himself.
 
2011-11-17 06:37:53 AM
earthworm2.0: If he didn't walk up and beat the ever loving shiat out of a child rapist the second he saw it, he didn't do what he was suppose to. I don't care who he.talked to. He should have been explaining the dead rapist, not this happy horse crap.

So right. I would have taken care of the child, got him out of the way. Then gone back and taken a fire extinguisher and give the farking sob an enema, then beat him in the head with it.

That man-boy is a piece of shiat, as are all the 'men' involved in this cluster fark.
 
2011-11-17 06:39:42 AM
So he can put up all this effort to try to save his ass but couldn't put in a bit more effort to save that little boy?
 
2011-11-17 06:43:07 AM
Jamieboy: Then gone back and taken a fire extinguisher and give the farking sob an enema, then beat him in the head with it.

Cool story, ITG.
 
2011-11-17 06:45:38 AM
CliChe Guevara: firefly212: I dunno that I'd trust the university police to be honest... I've seen plenty of cases where they ignore crime reports... I think this might just have bit them in the ass and they'd rather he goes down for it than they do.

Agreed.

Reported to campus police =/= Police putting anything in writing


This should also be investigated.....and by some agency from outside, probably outside PA. We live nearby a big public university community, located in an urban area of modest size. The Big U. swings what is by far the largest dick in this area, and I believe implicitly that no police agency would follow up this kind of report (and especially one that goes to the highest levels of the athletic program) without conferring with the university higher-ups.

I think there's a possibility that a report in this case may never have been reduced to writing, and may have been killed upon contacting the university administration. What you do in our state to ensure action is to call a state hotline that goes directly to the pertinent agency in the state capital. After decades of observing school administrators and their weasely, exigent ways, I would make such a call first, notify the school administration second, and go to the police station with a witness and make a written report. Then I'd consider calling every media outlet in the phone book.
 
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