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(Gizmodo) Fail At long last, Google Music is... a complete letdown   (gizmodo.com) divider line 66
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Msol [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 01:06:16 AM
Does Google do anything well other than Search?
 
Doctor Jan Itor
2011-11-17 06:41:09 AM
Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

Operating systems, email, documents, OAuth2 accounts, social networking, chat, voice mailboxes, calendar, RSS feed readers, video (YouTube), browsers, ...

/Oh wait, you were kidding, right?
 
moralpanic
2011-11-17 06:46:45 AM
Wow, what a big whiny article. I think the market is big enough for more than 2 players. Do we really want the industry to be dominated by just iTunes and Amazon? And it's pretty obvious that music will become more social, something that iTunes and Amazon hasn't really done yet.
 
AnkhX10.0
2011-11-17 06:57:09 AM
moralpanic: Wow, what a big whiny article. I think the market is big enough for more than 2 players. Do we really want the industry to be dominated by just iTunes and Amazon? And it's pretty obvious that music will become more social, something that iTunes and Amazon hasn't really done yet.

To be fair, Google isn't a gold standard when it comes to social networking. Although the Brazilians do love Orkut for whatever reason.
 
LewDux
2011-11-17 06:58:05 AM
it's unoriginal, overproduced and auto-tuned. I liked them before they starting all this searching
 
The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 07:25:41 AM
GoogleMusic is all I use now. In fact, it's pushing me closer to dumping Apple altogether and moving onto Android.
 
Cincinnati Kid
2011-11-17 07:33:51 AM
I really like Google Music. Did the article mention that it's free to store your music on their cloud? The ability to play any song that I own on my phone without having to use my phone's storage is what I want in a music service. I was under the impression that Apple and others charges for this, and Google doesn't.
 
enry
2011-11-17 07:36:16 AM
Coming from Gizmodo, that's praise if it didn't come from Apple.
 
Flying Code Monkey
2011-11-17 07:47:31 AM
Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

They make the occasional brilliant acquisition (Android). And Gmail is nice. That's about it.
 
The_Time_Master
2011-11-17 07:59:55 AM
Doctor Jan Itor: Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

Operating systems, email, documents, OAuth2 accounts, social networking, chat, voice mailboxes, calendar, RSS feed readers, video (YouTube), browsers, ...

/Oh wait, you were kidding, right?

You mean Linux?
 
meyerkev
2011-11-17 08:02:23 AM
The only thing I don't like is that if I upload a song, delete it from my library, and then attempt to reup it, it won't upload it even if I send it to another computer, and try it from there. Plus some niggling issues with albums with multiple artists.

/Ok, and cell service here sucks, so it takes ~10 minutes to get a 2 minute song, but that's not Google. That's the fault of the University of Michigan for not having cell service on their engineering campus or in the dorms.
 
covarde_anonimo
2011-11-17 08:02:27 AM
AnkhX10.0: moralpanic: Wow, what a big whiny article. I think the market is big enough for more than 2 players. Do we really want the industry to be dominated by just iTunes and Amazon? And it's pretty obvious that music will become more social, something that iTunes and Amazon hasn't really done yet.

To be fair, Google isn't a gold standard when it comes to social networking. Although the Brazilians do love Orkut for whatever reason.

not anymore. we all switched to facebook already.

well, "we" as in "most brasilians but me". i couldn't be bothered with this social networking shiat. i have real friends in the real world.

hey, that's a revolutianry idea !!! making friends in the real world. maybe i should patent that.
 
alywa [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 08:03:05 AM
Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

Shhhh.... This is Fark. Google is like a Mia Kunis / Anne Hathaway Sex bot to most around here. Apple, on the other hand, is some sort of Sarah Jessica Parker / bloated dead flesh penis filleting device.

I agree with you. I really like Gmail, and they are obviously very good at search, but I find most of their products to be half-baked. Tons of talent and potential, but they never seem to really finish the job.
 
bkosh84
2011-11-17 08:03:49 AM
enry: Coming from Gizmodo, that's praise if it didn't come from Apple.

This is because Gizmodo screwed the pooch a few years ago when they bought stolen Apple property. I don't even read Gizmodo anymore after all the fellating they do to Apple to try and win them back.

/Also, their new website sucks..
 
kieran57
2011-11-17 08:24:49 AM
That was the most Hipster thing I have ever read.
 
moistD
2011-11-17 08:25:50 AM
might be a let down for Gizmodo or subby, but its perfect for me. Was already using their cloud storage for my music, now I can buy music from them, amazon and iTunes (although I won't from iTunes) and play it on my one device. Once I root my Kindle Fire (waiting for the techniques to become a bit more simple) then I can put the android market on my fire and watch movies from amazon or google as well. They offered exactly what they needed to offer, which was a standard reliable service. I'm sure in time it will be upgraded with new features.
 
sasbazooka
2011-11-17 08:32:44 AM
moistD: might be a let down for Gizmodo or subby, but its perfect for me

Came here to say this. The auto-sync tool is nice, and the android apps are good too. I have this and Amazon Cloud Player, and I prefer this over the Amazon service. Not to mention that I can store all my music here without having to pay for additional hosted space or the ability to download more than one file at a time.
 
Jake Havechek
2011-11-17 08:35:43 AM
After they were so successful in making youtube suck, Google just keeps on truckin'!
 
Barakku
2011-11-17 08:41:53 AM
Oh, speaking of that storage locker: It's nothing more than the application of current technologies to yesterday's ideas. The concept behind it is as old as a shelf full of records: stuff you already have, sitting in one centralized place. Which a) is available elsewhere and b) does not advance the experience of listening to music one iota.

I can access my music from anywhere? How lame is that! I WANT to have to copy my 50GB of music to every device I ever own or I lose them forever! That's the experience of listening to music bro! Now hands off my 8-track
/Whiniest article ever
 
nutkick_42
2011-11-17 08:42:45 AM
Is the Obvious tag broken?
 
I lurked for two years before I signed up!
2011-11-17 08:48:51 AM
Barakku: Oh, speaking of that storage locker: It's nothing more than the application of current technologies to yesterday's ideas. The concept behind it is as old as a shelf full of records: stuff you already have, sitting in one centralized place. Which a) is available elsewhere and b) does not advance the experience of listening to music one iota.

I can access my music from anywhere? How lame is that! I WANT to have to copy my 50GB of music to every device I ever own or I lose them forever! That's the experience of listening to music bro! Now hands off my 8-track
/Whiniest article ever

I know, eh? "Enhance the experience of listening to music?" WTF, listening to music is the experience of listening to music.

Everything else is just adding more cupholders to a PT cruiser.
 
itsa_revolution
2011-11-17 09:05:48 AM
Gizmodo? Where is Fark's The Verge tag?
 
Jake Havechek
2011-11-17 09:07:59 AM
I think Google engineers sit around all day and think "gee, how can we make our services more cumbersome than they were yesterday"?
 
rmcooper4
2011-11-17 09:15:01 AM
Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

GoogleEarth and GoogleMaps have actually been pretty revolutionary in terms of democratizing (to an extent) cartography and GIS. Scholar and Books is also pretty great. If they would integrate their citation manager from scholar with Docs, the latter would be infinitely more useful. Nonetheless, Docs is solid.
 
AcneVulgaris
2011-11-17 09:26:04 AM
Doctor Jan Itor: Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

Operating systems, email, documents, OAuth2 accounts, social networking, chat, voice mailboxes, calendar, RSS feed readers, video (YouTube), browsers, ...

/Oh wait, you were kidding, right?

He sais WELL.
 
Nemo's Brother
2011-11-17 09:50:29 AM
Google has hit that point where all they can really do now is buy smaller companies, gut their ideas and profit.

Still love gmail. but even their search engine is getting annoying lately.
 
poot_rootbeer
2011-11-17 09:53:19 AM
TFA misses the point. The desktop experience for Google Music is an afterthought; Android integration is where it's going to shine.
 
kliq
2011-11-17 10:08:14 AM
Been using Google Music since it started. There's no point in owning a separate mp3 device now. My music collection goes with me, no matter where I am.

FTFA:

Most of us have been buying tracks from iTunes and Amazon for years. Why would we switch?

scottrmoreno.files.wordpress.com
 
Talondel [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 10:11:09 AM
Article Summary: "Google music is a let down because it's just a rehash of things that have already been done. Instead they should have rehashed other things that have already been done, because I personally like those things better."
 
StRalphTheLiar
2011-11-17 10:11:40 AM
Cincinnati Kid: I really like Google Music. Did the article mention that it's free to store your music on their cloud? The ability to play any song that I own on my phone without having to use my phone's storage is what I want in a music service. I was under the impression that Apple and others charges for this, and Google doesn't.

Amazon MP3 doesn't charge. I think they're free storage is smaller though.
 
hachijuhachi
2011-11-17 10:12:01 AM
Spotify is taking over the world.
 
Telos
2011-11-17 10:12:48 AM
If I can get pretty much any song I want to play through Spotify for free, why do I care about purchasing music at all?

Can anyone answer that question?
 
redpanda2
2011-11-17 10:23:08 AM
Msol: Does Google do anything well other than Search?

Apart from search, maps, online document editing, email, streaming video, speech recognition, translation, flight search, operating systems, rss, browsers, calendars, voicemail, free cloud music storage and streaming, and web fonts, what has google ever done for us?

/doesn't buy mp3s and won't start now
//uses Mog
 
The Spoony Bard
2011-11-17 10:27:36 AM
Author sounds like a whiny douche bag.

Dear dumbass author of the article,
Google lets you store 20,000 songs for free and you're biatching because the ideas are tired? Amazon didn't even offer anywhere near that much storage until Google did it. When Amazon saw what G music offered they had an "oh shiat" moment and changed their entire price structure for storage overnight. Amazon was charging $50+ for what Google was offering for FREE. In other words, Google did it first and Amazon followed.
 
hawtsautz
2011-11-17 10:28:58 AM
I got a free Pearl Jam live album off Google Music last night and it would only let me download individual songs to my computer (I'm allowed to download something twice according to the warning) since I was going to throw it on my mp3 player.
Anyone know how to download the entire album at once? I clicked the bottom right arrow on it like I did the individual songs, but no results.
 
HeartBurnKid
2011-11-17 10:29:09 AM
moralpanic: Wow, what a big whiny article. I think the market is big enough for more than 2 players. Do we really want the industry to be dominated by just iTunes and Amazon? And it's pretty obvious that music will become more social, something that iTunes and Amazon hasn't really done yet.

It's Gizmodo. If it's not Apple, it's crap. And if it is Apple, it's amazing until it comes out and everybody has it, then it's crap.

I swear, I've never seen a whinier tech site.
 
adenosine
2011-11-17 10:37:18 AM
Hrm.. it transcodes flac, ogg, and aac to mp3 if you upload it from your computer. That's a big fail. I can see transcoding the FLAC files as streaming them may be too bandwidth intensive, but what's the point of transcoding an ogg file? It's not like you have to worry about licensing with them. Transcoding from a lossy format to another is going to make it sound like crap.
 
kingflower
2011-11-17 10:39:49 AM
Gizmodo sucks...

Google Music is great if you have an Android phone. 20,000 songs in the cloud for FREE is a great deal. Is GMusic perfect or revolutionary?.....No. Does it work?.....Yes. Is the interface half-baked.....Yes.
 
AmazinTim [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 11:03:14 AM
I like to listen to music at work, and if i want my own music an don't feel like sitting on Turntable.fm all day, Google Music is a great product that does something that nobody else does.

Spotify's streaming is embarrassingly shiatty. I can't even believe they went to market with a streaming music product that can't get through a song without skipping. The ads are even worse.

Grooveshark is great but not entirely legal, not sure how long it'll be around.

Turntable.fm is awesome, pure awesome. But if I want to hear something specific or listen to an album then it's not what I need.

Sitting at work and wanting to listen to my music, with my playlists, on my computer, means Google Music is exactly the right product for me.

/stopped reading tfa when I got to the sentence "Like really?" Dreck.
 
the.squid
2011-11-17 11:03:57 AM
Gizmodo not liking something that competes with an Apple product... shocking!

Meanwhile on Ars Technica this morning they had an article about why Google Music is in fact doing something different than iTunes and Amazon:

Google is finally getting on the music-selling bandwagon instead of referring its customers to content partners, and the company will even begin allowing musicians to upload and sell their music directly to customers through the store. (new window)
 
Tax Boy
2011-11-17 11:45:10 AM
My crappy android phone has very little storage and I'm too cheap to buy a larger sd card for it. So for me, google music has been a winner. Been using it since back when it required an invite.

Google music streams most of my 15 gig collection, except for the very few old protected itunes files and the classical cds I ripped to lossless. If I could get a reliable data signal on the subway, I'd be set. Works great at the gym.

For extended trips w/o data availability (eg on an airplane), I have my old ipod.
 
Lolthien
2011-11-17 12:22:30 PM
The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GoogleMusic is all I use now. In fact, it's pushing me closer to dumping Apple altogether and moving onto Android.

And this, my friend, is why Gizmodo hates it. They are one Apple emblem away from being a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc.
 
HeartBurnKid
2011-11-17 12:31:03 PM
Lolthien: The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GoogleMusic is all I use now. In fact, it's pushing me closer to dumping Apple altogether and moving onto Android.

And this, my friend, is why Gizmodo hates it. They are one Apple emblem away from being a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc.

They have a real "Fatal Attraction" relationship with Apple, IME. They alternate between worshipping them and hating their guts, all the while sniping at anybody who dares to approach them.

And let's not get into the stalker-esque qualities; I still remember the time they had a featured story about pallets of boxes being spotted outside of an Apple distributor. That's pretty damn close to underwear-sniffing nuts.
 
fluffy2097
2011-11-17 12:39:45 PM
HeartBurnKid: Lolthien: The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GoogleMusic is all I use now. In fact, it's pushing me closer to dumping Apple altogether and moving onto Android.

And this, my friend, is why Gizmodo hates it. They are one Apple emblem away from being a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc.

They have a real "Fatal Attraction" relationship with Apple, IME. They alternate between worshipping them and hating their guts, all the while sniping at anybody who dares to approach them.

And let's not get into the stalker-esque qualities; I still remember the time they had a featured story about pallets of boxes being spotted outside of an Apple distributor. That's pretty damn close to underwear-sniffing nuts.

They are just enormous assholes. It comes through pretty clearly in this author's writing that he's a massive douche bag. Gizmodo and the whole Gawkwer family threw away it's journalistic integrity years ago along with a perfectly decent website design.
 
drjekel_mrhyde
2011-11-17 12:53:07 PM
Microsoft should release a Zune app for Android just to give the finger to Google
 
fluffy2097
2011-11-17 12:56:53 PM
drjekel_mrhyde: Microsoft should release a Zune app for Android just to give the finger to Google

I'd rather see Gizmodo release an app that does anything to give the finger to Google. They seriously sound like they think they can do anything better, and it would be a great laugh to watch them fail.
 
VTGremlin
2011-11-17 12:57:21 PM
Cincinnati Kid: I really like Google Music. Did the article mention that it's free to store your music on their cloud? The ability to play any song that I own on my phone without having to use my phone's storage is what I want in a music service. I was under the impression that Apple and others charges for this, and Google doesn't.

Yea, I like it too. I stream my stuff off of my HTPC in the living room when I'm cooking in the kitchen. Sure, there are other ways I could do it through home networking or what have you, but Google Music was free.
 
brantgoose [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 01:03:58 PM
Remind me what PepsiCola brought to the table that Coca Cola didn't. What does RC Cola offer in the way of novelty?

Sometimes a company just has to compete, not innovate. Some people are price-sensitive, others just want to grab something good enough without all the bells and whistles, and so forth. Progress can be incremental to the point of being nearly invisible. Progress can be simply knocking the brand leader off their perch or forcing them to innovate to keep ahead of the competition.

The Japanese did a world of good with cheap knock-offs and a business cycle that moves so fast the knock-offs are retro-engineered and on the market before the originals. They are now victims of this success in that China and other countries are doing the same.

Early adopters are novelty seekers (and sometimes snobs) and care about tiny innovations. Most of us are not willing to spend the time, money and effort to keep abreast of the cutting edge. The cutting edge can cut you, any way. Who needs the aggravation of being the guy who pays for all?

There are too many Beta products with release numbers way out of sync with the actual progress that has been made towards making them cheap, easy, and functional. A lot of software and hardware should be re-set to 1.0.0.0.
 
HeartBurnKid
2011-11-17 01:05:34 PM
fluffy2097: HeartBurnKid: Lolthien: The Headless Horseman's Headless Horse: GoogleMusic is all I use now. In fact, it's pushing me closer to dumping Apple altogether and moving onto Android.

And this, my friend, is why Gizmodo hates it. They are one Apple emblem away from being a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple Inc.

They have a real "Fatal Attraction" relationship with Apple, IME. They alternate between worshipping them and hating their guts, all the while sniping at anybody who dares to approach them.

And let's not get into the stalker-esque qualities; I still remember the time they had a featured story about pallets of boxes being spotted outside of an Apple distributor. That's pretty damn close to underwear-sniffing nuts.

They are just enormous assholes. It comes through pretty clearly in this author's writing that he's a massive douche bag. Gizmodo and the whole Gawkwer family threw away it's journalistic integrity years ago along with a perfectly decent website design.

Hey, I still like Lifehacker and io9.
 
Kuroshin [TotalFark]
2011-11-17 01:09:03 PM
Hipster article is Hipster...

iTunes is a bloated mess that doesn't work across all platforms, and Amazon never really got their hooks into me. Google Music is the same thing, just tied more directly to your already-existing Google account.

Nobody was asking for a revolution. Google never promised one. It's just a competing service very early in its life. So far it works rather well, although some of the features need to be fleshed out a bit more. Some of the crap that comes up in my playlist reminds me that I need to kick my pack-rat habit and just farking delete crap songs that are crap. Digital space is "free", so I have hundreds of songs that I never listen to and don't even like - all because they came with an album. Google Music is giving me the intervention I need.

/need to play more with the playlist system
 
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