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(Talking Points Memo) Amusing In one of the ballsiest political maneuvers ever, Herman Cain says that the President simply shouldn't be expected to know things, especially things like foreign policy, because knowing things leads to poor decision making   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 203
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2011-11-16 02:52:57 PM
 
2011-11-16 02:56:20 PM
knowing things leads to poor decision making


At last: The GOP philosophy simplified for their base...
 
2011-11-16 02:59:31 PM
I would have simply never imagined that - even in our current political climate - a popular candidate could ever effectively turn ignorance into their official political platform, but... I just... I don't know what to believe anymore.

Somebody hold me.
 
2011-11-16 02:59:59 PM
Well, if we were having a farking idiot contest, Herman would be a shoe-in.
 
2011-11-16 03:01:08 PM
Well, sure, I wouldn't expect anyone to know absolutely everything about every situation. That's a little different, though, than knowing virtually nothing about a major situation.
 
2011-11-16 03:01:35 PM
For the last time, the guy's not seriously running for office. H'e using his time in the spotlight to sell his book, spread his "brand", and in doing so raise his speaking and engagement fees for after the primaries.

He's a guy who's simply trolling the system for short-term personal gain, following the Palin playbook.
 
2011-11-16 03:03:38 PM
Facts: Confusing stuff.
 
2011-11-16 03:08:16 PM
Jake Havechek: Well, if we were having a farking idiot contest, Herman would be a shoe-in.

Though the idiot apparently doesn't do as much farking as he would like, despite his many attempts to the contrary.
 
2011-11-16 03:08:40 PM
Codenamechaz: Apparently Herman Cain just walked into a Daily Show punchline from Monday (new window)

My thoughts exactly. Doesn't anyone from his staff watch TDS?

"I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy," Cain said. "I want to talk to commanders on the ground. Because you run for president (people say) you need to have the answer. No, you don't! No, you don't! That's not good decision-making."

Talk about doubling down on the crazy.
 
2011-11-16 03:39:19 PM
Once again he brings the lulz. I love this guy.
 
2011-11-16 04:30:47 PM
And remember, kids, not knowing is half the battle.
 
2011-11-16 05:32:53 PM
Wow. Just when you think things can't get stupider, they do.
 
2011-11-16 05:36:12 PM
Hell, you might even have to find out who the president of Dirkadirkastan is.

www.tallarmeniantale.com
 
2011-11-16 05:36:48 PM
He's got the pipes so next time he's asked about Obama, he should just burst into song.

lukestorms.files.wordpress.com

/marxist
 
2011-11-16 05:41:16 PM
I would have loved it if the journalist asking him the Libya question corrected him and said, "No, actually, Obama was against the Rebels. He was trying to help Khaddafi stay in power. Many on the right praised Obama for taking such a bold stance to help our allies. Do you agree with Obama and his conservative backers?" and just sat back and let Cain do his thing.
 
2011-11-16 05:47:15 PM
Cain is old and busted. He's not even trying anymore. When started this thing you didn't quite know if he was serious or not. He was like Andy Kaufman. Now that everyone is in on the joke he's Tyler Perry.

Newt is the new hotness.
 
2011-11-16 06:10:05 PM
You can't make this stuff up. Every day I'm getting more convinced he's just a troll trying to see how far he can take it.
 
2011-11-16 06:12:52 PM
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.

I feel like Cain read 1984 once a very long time ago and decided it was a good lesson plan on how to conduct socioeconomic policies.
 
2011-11-16 06:28:50 PM
How do you say "dumbass" in Cuban?
 
2011-11-16 06:50:18 PM
Herman Cain/Gut Feeling 2012
 
2011-11-16 06:53:54 PM
I should do that at college. "I shouldn't have to 'know' anything about chemistry. If I did, that might affect the observation of my experiment. I should just throw random amounts of random substances in a beaker and see what happens.
 
2011-11-16 07:05:32 PM
Being bound up in preconceptions IS a way of making horrible decision making. That doesn't mean that you remain ignorant, that means that you remain flexible.

McCain lost my vote last Presidential election because of his knee jerk response to the Georgian crisis with the Ossetians. He was bound up with the idea of the ebbil Russians knocking around the Brave Georgian People--who were working their way up to the ethnic cleansing that they'd started back before the Bolsheviks got called in the first time to assist the Ossetians. McCain's hidebound adherence to "Russians BAD!" was a trap of preconception. It showed that he didn't understand the global situation, and was not the right guy for the Big Chair.

There is a difference in being flexible and open, and just plain ignorant. McCain's campaign showed that same ignorance in the lack of vetting with Palin--and letting her speak without prepping her on issues that she was woefully out of her depth on. The President should be appraised of all options, and then make decisions, and be prepared to listen to folks who are on the ground. That doesn't mean that the President shouldn't be reading and keeping up on things.

Cain is now just showing how out of his depth he really is. Beset by his past, beset by his own inability to keep up, he is trying to defend his lack of preparedness, and I guess the question is: does this poor bastiche pass the 3AM test? By his own admission?
 
2011-11-16 07:20:35 PM
I want to see the "Cain/Palin in 2012" ticket so badly. Maybe their motto could be "Cain/Palin in 2012: Because Ignorance is Bliss!"
 
2011-11-16 07:24:45 PM
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I'm tryin to think, but nothing's happening!
 
2011-11-16 07:30:39 PM
And you know what? He'll get millions of votes from people happy to have a Commander in Chief who is proudly ignorant, every single one of them a proud Republican.
 
2011-11-16 08:16:38 PM
Ned Flanders : Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.

www.uplolit.com
 
2011-11-16 08:20:33 PM
BackAssward: Ned Flanders : Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.

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Science cat want to have a word with Flanders...

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2011-11-16 08:24:00 PM
That was so stupid... I think it gave me cancer.
 
2011-11-16 08:25:58 PM
I figured out his plan:

1. When I read that, I think my IQ dropped by 20 points.
2. For some reason, I now consider him a good choice as President.
 
2011-11-16 08:52:00 PM
GAT_00: And you know what? He'll get millions of votes from people happy to have a Commander in Chief who is proudly ignorant, every single one of them a proud Republican.

Been there before. Reagan.
 
2011-11-16 08:53:26 PM
Did I just dream it, or didn't the Republicans argue just a few years ago that a lack of foreign policy experience was a reason to vote against Obama?

/I have a headache now
 
2011-11-16 09:09:19 PM
In one of the ballsiest political maneuvers ever, Herman Cain says that the President simply shouldn't be expected to know things, especially things like foreign policy, because knowing things leads to poor decision making

Well... one thing's for certain... he's got that CEO thing down to a tee...
 
2011-11-16 09:10:33 PM
knowing things leads to poor decision making

Was he an IT manager at some point?
 
2011-11-16 09:17:17 PM
Turn off the computer, Herman. Use the force.
 
2011-11-16 09:17:35 PM
Is he trying to steal Pa[e]rry's base?
 
2011-11-16 09:18:20 PM
Is that a page from the Bush playbook?
 
2011-11-16 09:18:41 PM
At what point in our history did we determine that we don't want our President to be an intelligent elitist to best represent our country?
 
2011-11-16 09:20:16 PM
At this point Obama can name Bo as his campaign manager and he'd still win.
 
2011-11-16 09:21:00 PM
Cain is right.

Foreign policy is not something a politician or a farker or any civilian can know a thing about. Foreign policy should be decided by Generals, not empty suits in Washington. A good president should be able to admit that he is simply a MASCOT when it comes to foreign policy and should have no real opinions of his own on the subject.
 
2011-11-16 09:22:37 PM
4.bp.blogspot.com

He wants to be elected to lead, not to read.
 
2011-11-16 09:23:08 PM
Jake Havechek: Well, if we were having a farking idiot contest, Herman would be a shoe-in shoo-in.

I don't know, looks like you may be in the running for the top spot.
 
2011-11-16 09:23:50 PM
Runs_With_Scissors_:
"I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy," Cain said. "I want to talk to commanders on the ground. Because you run for president (people say) you need to have the answer. No, you don't! No, you don't! That's not good decision-making."

Talk about doubling down on the crazy.


The most revealing part of that is the underlying assumption: [foreign policy = war].
 
2011-11-16 09:24:49 PM
Anything - it is not a synonym for Everything, Herman™
 
2011-11-16 09:25:15 PM
Cain is able!

Unless he doesn't know the answer.
 
2011-11-16 09:25:33 PM
Well, then you shouldn't expect to win shiat, Mr. Cain.
 
2011-11-16 09:25:47 PM
This is what Republicans believe and and how they govern when elected.

Republicans: idiots until the end.
 
2011-11-16 09:26:08 PM
He put it very poorly but he's actually got a really good point. He would listen to the experts and let them help guide a plan rather than force them to follow something he wants.

Cain thinks like an executive. He doesn't go into the kitchen of a godfathers pizza and start telling the cooks how to make pizza.
 
2011-11-16 09:26:13 PM
What we really need is a Cain, Gingrich, Paul ticket. Have to work that out somehow.
 
2011-11-16 09:27:38 PM
NObama - Ten reasons why Obama should not be President for the United States of America

2. Zero foreign policy experience ... shows how he does not understand international conflict
 
2011-11-16 09:28:03 PM
Monkeyfark Ridiculous: Runs_With_Scissors_:
"I'm not supposed to know anything about foreign policy," Cain said. "I want to talk to commanders on the ground. Because you run for president (people say) you need to have the answer. No, you don't! No, you don't! That's not good decision-making."

Talk about doubling down on the crazy.

The most revealing part of that is the underlying assumption: [foreign policy = war].


I believe our current narrative on Iran furthers that conclusion.
 
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