EatHam: Janeway was the best captain, then Picard, then Adama, then Kirk.

Oh my goodness, that whole series was horrific... almost as bad as Enterprise.

Picard > Sisko > Kirk

...and not a single f*ck was given that day.

bingethinker: If this goes Star Wars, Leia will passionately kiss Kirk, then we'll find out she's his sister. If this goes Star Trek, Kirk will nail Leia, then she'll die or disappear.

+1

Both franchises are good at pissing all over the fan base.
Trek>Wars

I just watched Shatner's "The Captains" this past weekend and all I can say is this:

1. That was a lot of ego fellatio for everyone involved.

2. Avery Brooks has lost his damned mind

When nerds go marching to war:



Given how badly both genres have gone downhill, there isn't much left to fight over.

buntz: I just watched Shatner's "The Captains" this past weekend and all I can say is this:

1. That was a lot of ego fellatio for everyone involved.

2. Avery Brooks has lost his damned mind

The what-now? I missed this, sadly. Also, why has Avery Brooks lost his mind?

Trek>'Old' Wars>MST3K>'New' Wars

Ice Pirates > Star Control 2 > Battle for Endor > Plan 9 From Outer Space > the Clones of Bruce Lee > Inner Space > Star Wars > Star Trek

Only the first two Star Wars films were great, the others ranged from mediocre to terrible.

But that is because Star Wars is all George Lucas, all the time. George hates his fans and acts like a toddler in regards to it. Even when he gave in and released the original Star Wars on DVD he made the disk in non-anamorphic letterbox on 4:3 - that way everyone can enjoy black bars on all four sides of the film. George is just a prick.

Contrast that with Star Trek which has harnessed some of the best writing talents in the past 50 years. Trek can actually carry an emotional load to it, Star Wars..... not so much.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: Brandyelf: EatHam: Janeway was the best captain, then Picard, then Adama, then Kirk.

Oh my goodness, that whole series was horrific... almost as bad as Enterprise.

Picard > Sisko > Kirk

I tend to look at each captain's performance in the context of their character's design and the direction of the show. It's hard to make a true-apples-apples comparison.

It's like trying to compare these variables. Is x greater than y? There is no definitive way to tell.

xyz

Ummmmmm, Slave Leia - HELLLLLLOOOOOO!!!!!

Brandyelf: almost as bad as Enterprise.

Really? I like most of Enterprise. There's some stupid episdoes early on, but even TNG had "Genesis" and that one where the Enterprise gets turned into a temple thing.

Galaxy Quest > Spaceballs

yeah, i went there.

Grand_Moff_Joseph: I predict a logical and well calm debate in this thread.


/Trek > Wars > Tebow

For a second there I thought you were dropping a Tek War reference. Then I just realized I'm a giant goddamn nerd.

bingethinker: If this goes Star Wars, Leia will passionately kiss Kirk, then we'll find out she's his sister. If this goes Star Trek, Kirk will nail Leia, then she'll die or disappear. we will find out she is really some gnarley looking green monster with suckers and shiat, and we'll be all like DDDDUUUUUUUUDDDEEE

madgonad: Only the first two Star Wars films were great, the others ranged from mediocre to terrible.

But that is because Star Wars is all George Lucas, all the time. George hates his fans and acts like a toddler in regards to it. Even when he gave in and released the original Star Wars on DVD he made the disk in non-anamorphic letterbox on 4:3 - that way everyone can enjoy black bars on all four sides of the film. George is just a prick.

Contrast that with Star Trek which has harnessed some of the best writing talents in the past 50 years. Trek can actually carry an emotional load to it, Star Wars..... not so much.


This!

Also.... Kirk is clearly the superior Captain, Picard would be a better ambassador to the UN Federation of Planets.

Shostie: Man, I'm just so tired of all these Star Wars...



See what you did there.

/If you do it, they see it.
//Always.

Shostie: YixilTesiphon: Brandyelf: almost as bad as Enterprise.

Really? I like most of Enterprise. There's some stupid episdoes early on, but even TNG had "Genesis" and that one where the Enterprise gets turned into a temple thing.

Don't forget the one where Crusher gets raped by the ghost from the Scottish planet.

God, that was terrible.

"space buns"

They should keep this going as long as possible.

buntz: I just watched Shatner's "The Captains" this past weekend and all I can say is this:

1. That was a lot of ego fellatio for everyone involved.

2. Avery Brooks has lost his damned mind

Indeed, especially #2.

/captain in a box.

Isn't it cute how two washed-up actors put their ignorance on display for all their fans to see, in a vain attempt to remain relevant to as wide an audience as possible, as they slowly fade into obscurity?

somemoron: The what-now? I missed this, sadly. Also, why has Avery Brooks lost his mind?

Shatner made a documentary where he goes around interviewing each captain about their experiences, etc etc.
They each talk pretty openly and honestly about being on Star trek, their pasts in theater, etc (the talk with Patrick Stewart was the best and most revealing) but then he gets to Avery Brooks.

He sits at a piano playing random jazz riffs the entire time, not answering a damn thing and just spouting off gibberish as answers.

Shatner says "So, how was it being captain?"
Brooks replies "It is what it is and it was what it was baby! I was there and now I'm here and I've seen God and he looks like music, baby!!"

/I'm paraphrasing, but not far off from the crazy
//He didn't honestly and sincerely answer one question like a normal human being

EatHam: Janeway was the best captain, then Picard, then Adama, then Kirk.

While I don't exactly agree with your list, it is good to Adama on the list.

Sisko is as good as Picard. Different but equal.

Then it goes
Kirk
Spock
Sulu
Garrett
Pike
Keogh
Terrell
Some gum under the bar at Quark's
Janeway


And ya I have grown up on both franchises. Trek>Wars. Mostly because Lucas is a bigger putz than Bergman and Brana (SP?)

mongbiohazard: madgonad: Only the first two Star Wars films were great, the others ranged from mediocre to terrible.

But that is because Star Wars is all George Lucas, all the time. George hates his fans and acts like a toddler in regards to it. Even when he gave in and released the original Star Wars on DVD he made the disk in non-anamorphic letterbox on 4:3 - that way everyone can enjoy black bars on all four sides of the film. George is just a prick.

Contrast that with Star Trek which has harnessed some of the best writing talents in the past 50 years. Trek can actually carry an emotional load to it, Star Wars..... not so much.


This!

Also.... Kirk is clearly the superior Captain, Picard would be a better ambassador to the UN Federation of Planets.

Each was a captain best suited for their time. During Kirk's era the, Humans were still new to the scene and there was open war with the Romulans and Klingons. Picard was captain during an era of relative peace (until the borg) so the federation was concentrating on science, exploration, and diplomacy.

Wow... the article was pretty informative... I didn't know that Shatner had a Google+ page.

/add me plz!

Star Wars is we can ignore the 3 prequel, Star Trek if we can't.

It's a TIE if we can throw out Voyager and Enterprise.

EatHam: You're all hating on Janeway because she's a woman. There was nothing wrong with her.

Janeway second-guessed every decision she made. Sometimes in the same sentence.

I'll add that there are more pron parodies based on Star Trek than Star Wars...