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(Pro Football Talk) Followup Peyton Manning denies rumors that he'll be the next coach at University of Mississippi. "Just tell them that I'm 0-10 as an assistant for Indianapolis"   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 89
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2011-11-16 02:56:21 PM
You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!
 
2011-11-16 02:59:18 PM
I keep forgetting that Manning has a sense of humor.
 
2011-11-16 02:59:57 PM
EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!


Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.
 
2011-11-16 03:00:38 PM
I know some Tennessee fans who will have to be on suicide watch if he coaches for anyone else.
 
2011-11-16 03:04:28 PM
mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.


That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.
 
2011-11-16 03:08:05 PM
netweavr: I keep forgetting that Manning has a sense of humor.

I want to hate Manning but just can't, partly because of the funny work he's done on SNL. Much like Justin Timberlake.
 
2011-11-16 03:08:39 PM
He can coach Andrew Luck next year.
 
2011-11-16 03:10:27 PM
EnviroDude: That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.

I thought their nickname was still the Rebels, but they have that goofy bear as their mascot. Right?
 
2011-11-16 03:11:38 PM
Super Chronic: netweavr: I keep forgetting that Manning has a sense of humor.

I want to hate Manning but just can't, partly because of the funny work he's done on SNL. Much like Justin Timberlake.


He's my favorite media whore. The DirecTV commrecials would've sucked without him, and his United Way bit is one of the best SNLs in a loooooong time
 
2011-11-16 03:15:48 PM
EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.

That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.


They're still the Rebels homeboy, the bear is a mascot, like Lil' Red for Nebraska.
 
2011-11-16 03:17:06 PM
Super Chronic: netweavr: I keep forgetting that Manning has a sense of humor.

I want to hate Manning but just can't, partly because of the funny work he's done on SNL. Much like Justin Timberlake.


THIS. His skit with the "Boys and Girls Club" where he's talking shiat and puts the kid in the portapotty is pure hilarity.
 
2011-11-16 03:17:26 PM
madden101: EnviroDude: That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.

I thought their nickname was still the Rebels, but they have that goofy bear as their mascot. Right?


For the time being. There was a picture of him wearing a box over his head during the recent UM loss to La Tech. (new window) It has a few of the fans upset.
 
2011-11-16 03:18:12 PM
Manning's going to coach officially some day soon, but it won't be college. I think he's going to be a damn good coach.
 
2011-11-16 03:21:58 PM
mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.

That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.

They're still the Rebels homeboy, the bear is a mascot, like Lil' Red for Nebraska.


The rebels are dead. Haven't you kept up with current events? And Houston Nutt ran the program into the dirt. Those of us not UM fans are having a big laugh over their foibles.
 
2011-11-16 03:26:38 PM
mdbuff12: THIS. His skit with the "Boys and Girls Club" where he's talking shiat and puts the kid in the portapotty is pure hilarity.

Nit-Picking: United Way, not Boys and Girls club.

Mommy! Mommy!
That's not your mommy, your mommy is dead. Hi, I'm Peyton.

Who wants to go live in my mansion with me? Hahhaha, I'm just farking with you!
 
2011-11-16 03:26:46 PM
EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.

That would be the Ole Miss Black Bears. The abandoned their beloved Colonel Rebel and adopted the Louisiana Black Bear as their mascot because Teddy Roosevelt didn't shoot one decades ago.

They're still the Rebels homeboy, the bear is a mascot, like Lil' Red for Nebraska.

The rebels are dead. Haven't you kept up with current events? And Houston Nutt ran the program into the dirt. Those of us not UM fans are having a big laugh over their foibles.


Says Rebels on their basketball jerseys.
 
2011-11-16 03:27:50 PM
I'm guessing Manning might have just enough left in him to be a mentor to whoever his replacement is in Indy.

He's done.
 
2011-11-16 03:29:39 PM
EnviroDude: There was a picture of him wearing a box over his head during the recent UM loss to La Tech. It has a few of the fans upset.

Perhaps some Admiral Ackbar Cereal would cheer them up.

Or, they could realize their team sucks right now and get over it. That's probably asking too much of the average Ole Miss fan, though.
 
2011-11-16 03:30:15 PM
InferiousX: I'm guessing Manning might have just enough left in him to be a mentor to whoever his replacement is in Indy.

He's done.


He's got some experience mentoring:
sportsillustrated.cnn.com
 
2011-11-16 03:32:45 PM
EnviroDude: The rebels are dead. Haven't you kept up with current events? And Houston Nutt ran the program into the dirt. Those of us not UM fans are having a big laugh over their foibles.

"Rebels" isn't going anywhere. They just changed the on-field mascot to a bear. It's 2011, it was time to get rid of the Plantation Owner as their mascot. Everyone lived, and it's not the first time an on-field mascot has been different from the team name. Stanford's mascot is a tree, for fark's sake.
 
2011-11-16 03:39:59 PM
He can't coach yet, he still has to play QB for the Chiefs next year
 
2011-11-16 03:40:31 PM
The Homer Tax: EnviroDude: The rebels are dead. Haven't you kept up with current events? And Houston Nutt ran the program into the dirt. Those of us not UM fans are having a big laugh over their foibles.

"Rebels" isn't going anywhere. They just changed the on-field mascot to a bear. It's 2011, it was time to get rid of the Plantation Owner as their mascot. Everyone lived, and it's not the first time an on-field mascot has been different from the team name. Stanford's mascot is a tree, for fark's sake.


www.kfc.com
/Wants his on-field gig back
 
2011-11-16 03:44:13 PM
mitchcumstein1: Says Rebels on their basketball jerseys.

whaaaattt? Ole Miss is on front and last name on back. Not a rebel to be seen, except for the name of the Louisiana Black Bear Mascot.

/sure, there are some old white racists that still want to adhere to some 1950's tradition when the school was "white only" and keep referring to their team as the rebels, but they are not the rebels anymore. It is the 21st century.
 
2011-11-16 03:47:32 PM
Had no idea Houston Nutt had been fired. My wife will be sad. That's one of her favorite names to giggle at on game days.
 
2011-11-16 03:49:37 PM
netweavr: I keep forgetting that Manning has a sense of humor.

And $100 million (with another $75 or so on the way)...and countless endorsements that pay more and require less work than "college football coach".

If he does decide to coach football, I bet it'll be at the high school level. It's a much easier, low-stress version, and you don't have to deal with all the recruiting, high-profile players, university administration, the NCAA etc.
 
2011-11-16 03:49:53 PM
0-10 sounds like the usual for ole miss.
 
2011-11-16 03:51:37 PM
GAT_00: Manning's going to coach officially some day soon, but it won't be college. I think he's going to be a damn good coach.

I have to disagree with you there. Like most great players, what makes Peyton special is the way he understands and processes what he is seeing on the field and making split second decisions. That's an innate ability and can't be transferred from coach to player.

What I think happens is that great players become frustrated as coaches when what seems obvious to them is never quite so obvious to the player being coached.

My opinion, I could be wrong.
 
2011-11-16 03:52:58 PM
Le Bomb Suprize: GAT_00: Manning's going to coach officially some day soon, but it won't be college. I think he's going to be a damn good coach.

I have to disagree with you there. Like most great players, what makes Peyton special is the way he understands and processes what he is seeing on the field and making split second decisions. That's an innate ability and can't be transferred from coach to player.

What I think happens is that great players become frustrated as coaches when what seems obvious to them is never quite so obvious to the player being coached.

My opinion, I could be wrong.


Hence why you don't want Brett Favre coaching new QBs, because he'll teach them to just "fling it down over by your guy".
 
2011-11-16 03:53:23 PM
EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: Says Rebels on their basketball jerseys.

whaaaattt? Ole Miss is on front and last name on back. Not a rebel to be seen, except for the name of the Louisiana Black Bear Mascot.

/sure, there are some old white racists that still want to adhere to some 1950's tradition when the school was "white only" and keep referring to their team as the rebels, but they are not the rebels anymore. It is the 21st century.


You're stupid.
 
2011-11-16 04:03:28 PM
Le Bomb Suprize: I have to disagree with you there. Like most great players, what makes Peyton special is the way he understands and processes what he is seeing on the field and making split second decisions. That's an innate ability and can't be transferred from coach to player.

What I think happens is that great players become frustrated as coaches when what seems obvious to them is never quite so obvious to the player being coached.

My opinion, I could be wrong.


I don't think you are wrong but I have seen this work both ways. Magic Johnson was terrible as a coach for the Lakers for the very reasons you mentioned. Mike Ditka on the other hand was excellent in his days as both player and coach. There are other examples then these just two but you get the idea. I would give Manning a good chance at making it work as he has been the de facto offensive coordinator for at least the last 5 years and it's obvious now that he was making mediocre players around him play better than their talent. I give him 70/30 at making it as a coach if he starts off as a QB coach or O-coord first and then works up to HC.
 
2011-11-16 04:03:41 PM
Treygreen13: Hence why you don't want Brett Favre coaching new QBs, because he'll teach them to just "fling it down over by your guy".

Seems to have worked for Rodgers
 
2011-11-16 04:04:38 PM
Lost Thought 00: He can't coach yet, he still has to play QB for the Chiefs Redskins next year

FTFY

/Dan Snyder's desperate and has the money
 
2011-11-16 04:05:36 PM
penguin31: Treygreen13: Hence why you don't want Brett Favre coaching new QBs, because he'll teach them to just "fling it down over by your guy".

Seems to have worked for Rodgers


Due to Mike McCarthy, not to Favre. Favre even said he wasn't going to try to help Rodgers.
 
2011-11-16 04:07:04 PM
mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: mitchcumstein1: Says Rebels on their basketball jerseys.

whaaaattt? Ole Miss is on front and last name on back. Not a rebel to be seen, except for the name of the Louisiana Black Bear Mascot.

/sure, there are some old white racists that still want to adhere to some 1950's tradition when the school was "white only" and keep referring to their team as the rebels, but they are not the rebels anymore. It is the 21st century.

You're stupid.


I am not, however, a 19th century racist trying to adhere to race based traditions.
 
2011-11-16 04:07:53 PM
mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.


See, I kind of wonder if this isn't one of those situations where he wouldn't be a good coach, because he really doesn't understand what it's like to not be Peyton Manning.

"OK, Rex Grossman Jr?"
"Yeah Coach?"
"This is a double-wide slot left formation, and the defense will be running a Tampa 2 zone with a blitz. What I need you to do in the 15 seconds after the huddle breaks is go up to the line, identify which of the 19 different blitzes you'll be facing based solely on the position of the strong safety, and audible the blocking assignments to your lineman and RB. After the snap you need to find which defensive back is a half-step slower than your WR and thread the needle to him in a space exactly 6 inches x 5 inches at a 30 degree angle from the receivers torso."
"Got it, Coach."
*Epic Fail sack*
"Ohh, tough break Dagron Jr. See, they actually went with the 42 inside slant blitz, and not the 33 double edge blitz. You could tell by how the outside linebackers hips were turned."

Anyway, Peyton has to come to to KC next year so we can get back to the AFC Championship game and get beat by the Bills.
 
2011-11-16 04:09:09 PM
jayhawk88: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.

See, I kind of wonder if this isn't one of those situations where he wouldn't be a good coach, because he really doesn't understand what it's like to not be Peyton Manning.

"OK, Rex Grossman Jr?"
"Yeah Coach?"
"This is a double-wide slot left formation, and the defense will be running a Tampa 2 zone with a blitz. What I need you to do in the 15 seconds after the huddle breaks is go up to the line, identify which of the 19 different blitzes you'll be facing based solely on the position of the strong safety, and audible the blocking assignments to your lineman and RB. After the snap you need to find which defensive back is a half-step slower than your WR and thread the needle to him in a space exactly 6 inches x 5 inches at a 30 degree angle from the receivers torso."
"Got it, Coach."
*Epic Fail sack*
"Ohh, tough break Dagron Jr. See, they actually went with the 42 inside slant blitz, and not the 33 double edge blitz. You could tell by how the outside linebackers hips were turned."

Anyway, Peyton has to come to to KC next year so we can get back to the AFC Championship game and get beat by the Bills.


You had me, up until that last part.
 
2011-11-16 04:11:48 PM
 
2011-11-16 04:13:27 PM
GAT_00: Manning's going to coach officially some day soon, but it won't be college. I think he's going to be a damn good coach.

Based on what, the fact that he's a good QB? He calls a lot of audibles, but the playbook is still written by the OC. It's one thing to pick apart a coverage scheme; it's another to coach. At the high school level, you're half babysitter. At the college level, you're a teacher. Someone like Peyton, who's been in the NFL for so long, is likely to be frustrated with college students who don't do everything right the first time. At the NFL level, you have to build a team on a budget and out-scheme the other guys. It's one thing to look at the defense from behind center and check down; it's another to draw up playbook based on team strengths and weaknesses that consistently gets you first downs against NFL defenses. On the field I can't think of a more mentally challenging job than QB, but off-the-field it's the OC that stays up 'til 4AM so the QB can get 8 hours of sleep.

It's actually very difficult to predict which players make great coaches. I've seen very little correlation between on-field ability and coaching ability. It's like saying an accurate sniper would make a great field commander. Might be, but they're so completely different skill sets.

If Peyton turns out to be a great coach, doesn't mean I'm wrong. I'm not saying there's no way. I'm just saying what he does on the field won't have a whole lot to do with it. Pretty much anyone who plays so much as a single down in the NFL knows enough about football to coach; the question is whether they have the things like communication skills, patience, creativity and organizational acumen.
 
2011-11-16 04:14:17 PM
jayhawk88: mitchcumstein1: EnviroDude: You can't spell scum without UM. Go to Hell Ole Miss.

/go Bears!

Baylor? Cal? Maine?

I think Peyton would make a hell of a coach, he's essentially been the OC.

See, I kind of wonder if this isn't one of those situations where he wouldn't be a good coach, because he really doesn't understand what it's like to not be Peyton Manning.

"OK, Rex Grossman Jr?"
"Yeah Coach?"
"This is a double-wide slot left formation, and the defense will be running a Tampa 2 zone with a blitz. What I need you to do in the 15 seconds after the huddle breaks is go up to the line, identify which of the 19 different blitzes you'll be facing based solely on the position of the strong safety, and audible the blocking assignments to your lineman and RB. After the snap you need to find which defensive back is a half-step slower than your WR and thread the needle to him in a space exactly 6 inches x 5 inches at a 30 degree angle from the receivers torso."
"Got it, Coach."
*Epic Fail sack*
"Ohh, tough break Dagron Jr. See, they actually went with the 42 inside slant blitz, and not the 33 double edge blitz. You could tell by how the outside linebackers hips were turned."

Anyway, Peyton has to come to to KC next year so we can get back to the AFC Championship game and get beat by the Bills.


I imagine when Curtis Painter walks up to the line, Peyton just screams "RED POTATO OMAHA OLIVE SLANT 99 GARFUNKEL DOUBLE STAMP CURL 12 SPLASH TROPHY PURPLE THREE GAUZE TESTICLE KLEENEX RAMROD CATAPULT DUSTBIN WREATH KITTEN FIRE RAMP NINER CLIFF 51 51 51 BLUE HANGTAG ON 3" into the headset, and Curtis Painter sheds a single tear.
 
2011-11-16 04:20:37 PM
CUT THAT MEAT!!!

t0.gstatic.com
 
2011-11-16 04:22:09 PM
Manning is smart, funny, has a SB ring, first ballot Hall of Famer, and probably more money than all of us. I really hope, after 3 neck surgeries, he retires. Why risk some lard butt lineman falling on him the wrong way and really getting screwed up? The Colts stink-would have stank even if he played this year (although not to their current epic proportions). No RB, bad D, etc. Hang it up now. And don't even think about coaching Mississippi. Their only reason for optimism is the fact that Missouri is joining the SEC, so maybe the Rebels might be able to pick up another win from time to time.
 
2011-11-16 04:22:39 PM
the1hatman: Le Bomb Suprize: I have to disagree with you there. Like most great players, what makes Peyton special is the way he understands and processes what he is seeing on the field and making split second decisions. That's an innate ability and can't be transferred from coach to player.

What I think happens is that great players become frustrated as coaches when what seems obvious to them is never quite so obvious to the player being coached.

My opinion, I could be wrong.

I don't think you are wrong but I have seen this work both ways. Magic Johnson was terrible as a coach for the Lakers for the very reasons you mentioned. Mike Ditka on the other hand was excellent in his days as both player and coach.


Yeah he really turned the Saints around. I have dealt with the Manning family regularly -- the daddy is a perfect gentleman, the servants are very friendly, and the sons are are arrogant jerks.
 
2011-11-16 04:26:28 PM
Why would Peyton coach? He can be a TV analyst, make more money and do far less work. And that assumes he'd be a good coach, which I doubt he would be. Superstars tend to make terrible coaches. Bill Russell is the only exception I can think of.
 
2011-11-16 04:28:08 PM
mitchcumstein1: You had me, up until that last part.

You're telling me you couldn't see that happening? The bulk of that Cassel contract has already been paid, so they could pretty easily cut him. If the Colts do draft Luck, they're at least going to entertain offers for Peyton.

Hell it might end up being a fight between us and Washington.
 
2011-11-16 04:51:51 PM
GimpyNip: He can also make more money on TV if he's even interested in money. He seems like a highly competitive guy though, so I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually does go into coaching.

Thank you for bringing this up. A few people have been bringing up that it would be less work to be a broadcaster...I don't think "lazy" when I think of Manning. Maybe I'm way off base, after all, I haven't met him or anything...but he always seemed competitive and like a guy who was going to do everything it took in order to be better than the next guy. (well, aside from turn into a spiteful and hateful dick like Jordan)

GimpyNip: Anyway, on topic, I have no reason to believe Manning would be a great NFL coach. Yes, he can coach himself. That doesn't mean he can coach anyone else. It isn't like he can call the offense from the line of scrimmage and audible based on coverage as a coach.

I think he'd be a hell of a coach because 95 percent of the work is throughout the week, on the practice field, and in the film room.

If you draft someone who's lazy and/or stupid, well, yeah, he'll get frustrated. So don't do that. Have him in on your hiring process, like any intelligent GM would have their coaching staff talk to prospective players.
 
2011-11-16 04:53:05 PM
The year is 2016.

Coach Peton Manning leads Tom Brady and the rest of the Redskins to the NFC Championship before both are killed on the sidelines in a freak special teams play gone horribly wrong.
 
2011-11-16 04:53:22 PM
jayhawk88: mitchcumstein1: You had me, up until that last part.

You're telling me you couldn't see that happening? The bulk of that Cassel contract has already been paid, so they could pretty easily cut him. If the Colts do draft Luck, they're at least going to entertain offers for Peyton.

Hell it might end up being a fight between us and Washington.


It won't be. Cassel won 10 games, went to the Pro Bowl, and went to the playoffs last year, he has no running game, lost his best tight end, has a shiatty offensive line, is running for his life back there, and he doesn't play defense. I'd say he gets one more year before they shiat can him.

GimpyNip: [2.bp.blogspot.com image 580x680]

Yeah, no, I got it.
 
2011-11-16 04:53:52 PM
The Homer Tax: EnviroDude: The rebels are dead. Haven't you kept up with current events? And Houston Nutt ran the program into the dirt. Those of us not UM fans are having a big laugh over their foibles.

"Rebels" isn't going anywhere. They just changed the on-field mascot to a bear. It's 2011, it was time to get rid of the Plantation Owner as their mascot. Everyone lived, and it's not the first time an on-field mascot has been different from the team name. Stanford's mascot is a tree, for fark's sake.


Actually from what I understand Stanford doesn't have a school mascot. That tree that you see running around is the mascot for the band, not the school.
 
2011-11-16 05:11:07 PM
ongbok: Actually from what I understand Stanford doesn't have a school mascot. That tree that you see running around is the mascot for the band, not the school.

This is correct.

The school is named for a color. Hard to make a mascot of that. I suppose they could get Cardinal versions of greenman suits.
 
2011-11-16 05:14:22 PM
CoonAce: Yeah he really turned the Saints around.

"Wanna see my ring finger?"

cdn.faniq.com
 
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