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2011-11-16 10:01:43 AM
FTFA: Neisworth was later charged with multiple counts of child sexual abuse in Cecil County, Md., in 2005. However, McLaughlin claimed that at the time, Penn State officials said an indictment wasn't enough to investigate one of their faculty members.

/ pattern ?
// oh, and Penn State thinks its somehow exempt from freedom-of-information laws
 
2011-11-16 10:02:46 AM
We're going off of the rails of the Pedo Train!


/All Aboard!
 
2011-11-16 10:09:05 AM
Jeebus, can one day go by without something new coming out from that cesspool?
 
2011-11-16 10:14:07 AM
"happy valley"
 
2011-11-16 10:16:59 AM
This story is starting to reach epic levels of sad.
 
2011-11-16 10:39:22 AM
they will be finding hundreds, if not a couple thousand, victims as the investigation continues.
 
2011-11-16 10:48:48 AM
'[Neisworth] has an impeccable record. He has never been accused of anything,'

Apart from the guy accusing him of something, of course.
 
2011-11-16 10:51:25 AM
Look at that ugly guy, there's no chance he was in any way molestable as a child.

LIAR!
 
2011-11-16 11:16:09 AM
 
2011-11-16 11:24:35 AM
Ugh.
 
2011-11-16 11:50:09 AM
WE ARE!
 
2011-11-16 11:50:28 AM
Prof Lasaga? (new window)

*clicks article*
*blinks with genuine surprise*

No? If I worked for Penn State, I'd be calling former employees of Arthur Andersen right now for job hunting tips.

/they'll probably be bankrupt before any charges are pressed
 
2011-11-16 11:50:37 AM
Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.
 
2011-11-16 11:51:12 AM
Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Now get in the farking shower!
 
2011-11-16 11:51:12 AM

mikaloyd: WE ARE!


STILL farkING ASHAMED, DUDE.
 
2011-11-16 11:52:28 AM
Isn't this the definition of a complete and total cluster frak?
 
2011-11-16 11:53:33 AM

veedeevadeevoodee: FTFA: Neisworth was later charged with multiple counts of child sexual abuse in Cecil County, Md., in 2005. However, McLaughlin claimed that at the time, Penn State officials said an indictment wasn't enough to investigate one of their faculty members.

/ pattern ?
// oh, and Penn State thinks its somehow exempt from freedom-of-information laws


Pretty sure they're not going to be exempt from FBI obtained subpoenas and warrants.
 
2011-11-16 11:53:41 AM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


I think that most people can understand that. What gets me is that there might be a lot of false claims as well. To me, those people are scum. But, the other silver lining is that it might empower other victims in other places to come forward. This is really reminiscent of the Catholic Church scandal to me.
 
2011-11-16 11:54:21 AM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.
 
2011-11-16 11:54:32 AM
I will bet that there is a whole pedo ring. And I live just 30 minutes away. It has been a madhouse here.
 
2011-11-16 11:54:38 AM
It's as if there was some sort of conspiracy to cover up allegations of child abuse...

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


Maybe... but the logos of other schools aren't nearly as easy to pedoshop.
 
2011-11-16 11:54:54 AM

Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!


Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!
 
2011-11-16 11:55:10 AM
Professor works with autistic children. How convenient.
 
2011-11-16 11:56:19 AM

keepitcherry: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.

They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.


2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations. "1 OWS protestor was violent - burn that Hooverville to the ground!"
 
2011-11-16 11:59:12 AM

usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!


It's actually UNDER SIEGE!
 
2011-11-16 11:59:13 AM
24.media.tumblr.com
 
2011-11-16 12:00:16 PM
Rush Limbaugh is applying for professor Emeritus. He goes wherever the fresh boy ass is.
 
2011-11-16 12:00:17 PM
We haven't had a good old-fashioned "male teacher consensually bangs hot female jailbait" story in awhile. Those seem pretty tame compared to this shiat.
 
Ehh
2011-11-16 12:00:23 PM
keepitcherry: They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

coeyagi: 2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations



hotbed? hovel? house? home?
 
2011-11-16 12:00:41 PM
It's been a really bad day. My girlfriend broke up with me. She called me a pedophile. I told her that was an awfully big word for a eight year old to be using.
 
2011-11-16 12:00:45 PM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


Sadly, this. The only crazy thing would be to assume that there's only one potential sexual predator ever (even temporarily) employed at any given major state university over a 30 year period.
 
2011-11-16 12:02:13 PM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


I'm not singling out Penn State. I'm hoping every university in the country goes down for this. Penn State is just where the crack in the dyke holding back this filth started.

Tenured professors, college coaches, and administration have been getting away with criminal behavior for decades because of the "education is so important!" and "how dare you question my research ethics. you must hate science you toothless redneck!" crowd. This is long overdue. It is pretty horrifying that the only thing that finally got the law to say "enough is enough" is anally raping 10 year old boys.

/went to a Canadian university
//where they only rape boys in professional hockey
 
2011-11-16 12:02:23 PM

tricycleracer: We haven't had a good old-fashioned "male teacher consensually bangs hot female jailbait" story in awhile. Those seem pretty tame compared to this shiat.


We need someone to make a Penn State Coach-Player Sex Matrix
 
2011-11-16 12:03:05 PM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.


I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)
 
2011-11-16 12:04:12 PM

Ehh: keepitcherry: They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

coeyagi: 2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations


hotbed? hovel? house? home?


temporary habitat
 
2011-11-16 12:04:24 PM

LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!


Because it's THE GLIMMER MAN

/with Keenen Ivory Wayans
 
2011-11-16 12:05:00 PM

SmackLT: Just the tip?


WINNAR!
 
2011-11-16 12:05:30 PM

LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!


Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys
 
2011-11-16 12:05:50 PM
"PSU better cancel the semester. By going to classes, you're disrespecting the victim!"

(Sounds a little more dumb than if you substitute in the football analogy, no?)
 
2011-11-16 12:05:58 PM

PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)


Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.
 
2011-11-16 12:05:59 PM
Neisworth has been nationally recognized for his work with autistic children, and even penned the acclaimed book, "The Autism Encyclopedia."

He was just trying to debunk the claims that injections lead to autism.
 
2011-11-16 12:07:04 PM
Why didn't Joe Paterno do more to prevent this?
 
2011-11-16 12:07:09 PM
Duke sucks but PSU swallows.
 
2011-11-16 12:08:26 PM

LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!


Apparently this professor is UNDER SIEGE 2!
 
2011-11-16 12:08:41 PM
coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.


You say that like it is a bad thing.
 
2011-11-16 12:09:35 PM

tricycleracer: We haven't had a good old-fashioned "male teacher consensually bangs hot female jailbait" story in awhile. Those seem pretty tame compared to this shiat.


I went by PSU before. The girls there are way, way hotter than those in UPenn. Why didn't these guys go after those girls? Or maybe the parents of the gals got PSU to hire pedos so that their precious snowflakes don't get hit on by the faculty and staff?
 
2011-11-16 12:10:01 PM

dskot1: [24.media.tumblr.com image 447x271]


Win.
 
2011-11-16 12:10:09 PM

coeyagi: PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)

Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.


Do you think Arthur Andersen should have been allowed to stay in business?
 
2011-11-16 12:10:10 PM
Hopefully all recent "investigations" by Penn State of its staff will be reopened.
 
2011-11-16 12:10:12 PM

usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!


The newest molester and cover-up is in Penn State's childhood development department. Which is ironic.
 
2011-11-16 12:10:55 PM

AdmirableSnackbar: Why didn't Joe Paterno do more to prevent this?


i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-16 12:14:02 PM

coeyagi: keepitcherry: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.

They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations. "1 OWS protestor was violent - burn that Hooverville to the ground!"


Actually, it's 3 now. (new window)

I'd be willing to be $10 we'll hit 10 before next summer.

/but I'm sure they will all be anecdotal and not indicative of a trend
//really doubt you'd feel the same way if this was Monsanto
 
2011-11-16 12:15:53 PM

usernameguy: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Apparently this professor is UNDER SIEGE 2!


I believe the coverup was an EXECUTIVE DECISION!
 
2011-11-16 12:16:01 PM

beta_plus: coeyagi: PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)

Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.

Do you think Arthur Andersen should have been allowed to stay in business?


Do you think with your dubious past of dubious commenting and dubious defending of right-leaning maggots that I wouldn't believe you to be so full of utter crap to believe an entire institution is to blame or to be held to condemnation because of a few people whose activities weren't fraudulent in business / accounting WHICH WAS THE PURPOSE OF A.A. but rather had lapses of judgment in dealing with personnel? Do you think the National Restaurant Association should go down because of Herman Cain?
 
2011-11-16 12:18:13 PM

beta_plus: Actually, it's 3 now. (new window)

I'd be willing to be $10 we'll hit 10 before next summer.

/but I'm sure they will all be anecdotal and not indicative of a trend
//really doubt you'd feel the same way if this was Monsanto


We have unconfirmed reports that a third independent pedophile has hit the campus. Accurate reporting and investigations from Penn State to follow.
 
2011-11-16 12:18:16 PM

FlashHarry: "happy valley"


moar liek "Mr. Happy valley" amirite?
 
2011-11-16 12:21:20 PM

coeyagi: beta_plus: coeyagi: PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)

Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.

Do you think Arthur Andersen should have been allowed to stay in business?

Do you think with your dubious past of dubious commenting and dubious defending of right-leaning maggots that I wouldn't believe you to be so full of utter crap to believe an entire institution is to blame or to be held to condemnation because of a few people whose activities weren't fraudulent in business / accounting WHICH WAS THE PURPOSE OF A.A. but rather had lapses of judgment in dealing with personnel? Do you think the National Restaurant Association should go down because of Herman Cain?


Oh, so education is suddenly not about preparing our children for the future.
So - it's OK when your team covers up little boys getting raped. Got it.

You don't care about justice. You're just worried how this is going to make your agenda look bad.
 
2011-11-16 12:21:50 PM
I am pretty leery of any claims that rely on recovering repressed memories.
 
2011-11-16 12:22:58 PM
You can't read stories like this and think we've come that far from thousands of years ago. Jeez. People are animals.
 
2011-11-16 12:23:12 PM

MisterLoki: I am pretty leery of any claims that rely on recovering repressed memories.


you are an apologist for child rapists, then. that's the way it goes.
 
2011-11-16 12:23:17 PM

beta_plus: coeyagi: keepitcherry: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.

They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations. "1 OWS protestor was violent - burn that Hooverville to the ground!"

Actually, it's 3 now. (new window)

I'd be willing to be $10 we'll hit 10 before next summer.

/but I'm sure they will all be anecdotal and not indicative of a trend
//really doubt you'd feel the same way if this was Monsanto


Yea, 3 now that we know about...just wait. These types stick together...there will be more uncovered.
 
2011-11-16 12:24:09 PM

beta_plus: coeyagi: keepitcherry: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.

They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations. "1 OWS protestor was violent - burn that Hooverville to the ground!"

Actually, it's 3 now. (new window)

I'd be willing to be $10 we'll hit 10 before next summer.

/but I'm sure they will all be anecdotal and not indicative of a trend
//really doubt you'd feel the same way if this was Monsanto


3/42,000 = 0.00007% I am sure there are more than 3 pedos in State College, but your argument is 3 out of 42,000. So, fail much?
 
2011-11-16 12:24:28 PM
it should be open season on penn staters now. not just buck season. nittany lion season.
 
2011-11-16 12:25:52 PM

coeyagi: keepitcherry: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.

They may not be isolated to just PA, but it sure seems like happy valley is a haven for pedos.

2 pedos is a haven? You must be from the Fox News school of generalizations. "1 OWS protestor was violent - burn that Hooverville to the ground!"


it's not just that there were only 2 pedos, but that the whole top echelon of the football department, and key members of school administration who knew they were molesting boys and protected them. I don't care if i was only 1 child molester - but as soon as those in power act to cover up those acts and protect the molester, that's the definition of a haven.
 
2011-11-16 12:26:51 PM

beta_plus: coeyagi: beta_plus: coeyagi: PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)

Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.

Do you think Arthur Andersen should have been allowed to stay in business?

Do you think with your dubious past of dubious commenting and dubious defending of right-leaning maggots that I wouldn't believe you to be so full of utter crap to believe an entire institution is to blame or to be held to condemnation because of a few people whose activities weren't fraudulent in business / accounting WHICH WAS THE PURPOSE OF A.A. but rather had lapses of judgment in dealing with personnel? Do you think the National Restaurant Association should go down because of Herman Cain?

Oh, so education is suddenly not about preparing our children for the future.
So - it's OK when your team covers up little boys getting raped. Got it.

You don't care about justice. You're just worried how this is going to make your agenda look bad.


Crappy conclusions from trolls are crappy. The only thing, if you had a brain, to take away from my statement is that an entire institution shouldn't be wiped out because of the poor choices a few individuals.

You still didn't comment on the NRA. Deflective troll is deflective.
 
2011-11-16 12:27:32 PM

turbotikigod: usernameguy: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Apparently this professor is UNDER SIEGE 2!

I believe the coverup was an EXECUTIVE DECISION!


They're gonna need to call in the NAVY SEALS!
 
2011-11-16 12:29:20 PM

beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys


The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

I see a Seagal meme being born.
 
2011-11-16 12:32:12 PM
Here at Penn State we pride ourselves on our faculty not raping children at any higher rate than faculty at any other major University. We will fudge numbers and hide evidence if need be to ensure that standard is met. Because we care and care deeply about the moral fiber our image represents. Come to Penn State, where you'll never have to face the horror of child rape once you are old enough to be a student.

WE ARE! PENN STATE!
 
2011-11-16 12:33:05 PM
I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?
 
2011-11-16 12:35:07 PM
Penn State University: "Laws without morals are useless." "Viva Caligula!"
 
2011-11-16 12:35:09 PM

vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!


That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!
 
2011-11-16 12:35:56 PM
This is all about protecting the image, reputations and the ultimate flow of donations that pay hefty salaries to university professors and administrators.

This is why sex abuse is covered up by churches and universities, and it always will be.
 
2011-11-16 12:36:01 PM
At what point do we just put a big circus tent over the campus and nuke the whole thing?
 
2011-11-16 12:36:47 PM

vinnybang: I see a Seagal meme being born.


Please, God. No.
 
2011-11-16 12:37:27 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


"I Will Take You Home" by Grateful Dead.
 
2011-11-16 12:38:21 PM

tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


"Thank Heaven for Little Girls" wouldn't work.
 
2011-11-16 12:38:21 PM

coeyagi: beta_plus: coeyagi: beta_plus: coeyagi: PainInTheASP: coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

I hope it does. This is bullshiat and every other college in America better pay close attention to what is happening. Mine included (not insinuating that there are skeletons in the closet, but if so TAKE THE GODDAMN DOOR OFF THE HINGES AND LET THE LIGHT SHINE IN.)

Agreed. Rather than condemn a school for all the cowardly actions of those at the top, let's assume the worst and make sure monsters aren't lurking elsewhere.

Do you think Arthur Andersen should have been allowed to stay in business?

Do you think with your dubious past of dubious commenting and dubious defending of right-leaning maggots that I wouldn't believe you to be so full of utter crap to believe an entire institution is to blame or to be held to condemnation because of a few people whose activities weren't fraudulent in business / accounting WHICH WAS THE PURPOSE OF A.A. but rather had lapses of judgment in dealing with personnel? Do you think the National Restaurant Association should go down because of Herman Cain?

Oh, so education is suddenly not about preparing our children for the future.
So - it's OK when your team covers up little boys getting raped. Got it.

You don't care about justice. You're just worried how this is going to make your agenda look bad.

Crappy conclusions from trolls are crappy. The only thing, if you had a brain, to take away from my statement is that an entire institution shouldn't be wiped out because of the poor choices a few individuals.

You still didn't comment on the NRA. Deflective troll is deflective.


If they are found of genuine wrong doing, yes. I am very happy that Andersen was destroyed.

But you admitted in your own statement that you think Andersen should have gone down for actions of a few but Penn State shouldn't. Penn State seems very special to you.
 
2011-11-16 12:39:20 PM

mikaloyd: Here at Penn State we pride ourselves on our faculty not raping children at any higher rate than faculty at any other major University. We will fudge numbers and hide evidence if need be to ensure that standard is met. Because we care and care deeply about the moral fiber our image represents. Come to Penn State, where you'll never have to face the horror of child rape once you are old enough to be a student.

WE ARE! PENN STATE!


Don't you mean PEEN STATE?
 
2011-11-16 12:40:05 PM

veedeevadeevoodee: // oh, and Penn State thinks its somehow exempt from freedom-of-information laws


You have no idea. They still refuse to open their books to the state legislature (who controls the funding to them). Ever wonder why the tuition rate at PSU has skyrocketed compared to other state universities in PA (and elsewhere)? It's because they keep holding back the funds because Spanier refused to let them take a look at the books.

Watching him go on trial for his nonsense would be very nice to see, but with how things work here, I doubt it'll ever happen.
 
2011-11-16 12:40:17 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Thank heaven for little girls?
 
2011-11-16 12:41:08 PM

jizzler: This is all about protecting the image, reputations and the ultimate flow of donations that pay hefty salaries to university professors and administrators.

This is why sex abuse is covered up by churches and universities, and it always will be.


THIS.
 
2011-11-16 12:41:20 PM
coeyagi it could happen at any school, and very well may, but it's public knowledge now that it happened at this one, so fark em, I'll continue making blanket generalizations. Penn State is a bathhouse for rapers. fark em in the ear. But only because they're older than 18.
 
2011-11-16 12:41:29 PM

Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!


And it's all because Sandusky couldn't contain his FIRE DOWN BELOW.
 
2011-11-16 12:42:16 PM

Matthew Keene: mikaloyd: Here at Penn State we pride ourselves on our faculty not raping children at any higher rate than faculty at any other major University. We will fudge numbers and hide evidence if need be to ensure that standard is met. Because we care and care deeply about the moral fiber our image represents. Come to Penn State, where you'll never have to face the horror of child rape once you are old enough to be a student.

WE ARE! PENN STATE!

Don't you mean PEEN STATE?


PENNIS STATE has a better ring to it.
 
2011-11-16 12:44:16 PM

tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


www.technodisco.net
 
2011-11-16 12:44:21 PM

SmackLT: Just the tip?


Came for this
 
2011-11-16 12:45:25 PM
The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.
 
2011-11-16 12:46:01 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: vinnybang: I see a Seagal meme being born.

Please, God. No.


I could get used to it:

4.bp.blogspot.com

/woman looks amazing for any age
 
2011-11-16 12:48:56 PM

tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2011-11-16 12:51:45 PM

einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.


If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.
 
2011-11-16 12:53:06 PM
Has anyone asked the fundamental question at play here?

Why do people find children so damn sexy?

Most of the time I just want to elbow them in the face for being so annoying.

What's wrong with me?
 
2011-11-16 12:55:04 PM
When did Penn State become a catholic school?
 
2011-11-16 12:55:07 PM
Obviously academia is to blame. Shut the universities down!
 
2011-11-16 12:56:06 PM

tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Rock and Roll, Part 2

/ they probably already play that
 
2011-11-16 12:56:21 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?



Smokin' Showerin' in the Boys' Room
 
2011-11-16 12:59:06 PM

beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.


How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"
 
2011-11-16 01:00:55 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Yakety Sax
 
2011-11-16 01:01:04 PM

Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!


Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!
 
2011-11-16 01:03:53 PM

Pvt Joker: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Smokin' Showerin' in the Boys' Room


Sadly, "Smokin'" probably works too.
 
2011-11-16 01:04:14 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


"Teddy Bear's Picnic"?

Erm,... Scratch that.

"Pedobear's Picnic"!
 
2011-11-16 01:05:41 PM

elev8meL8r: tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Keeping in line for the love given to Gary Glitter's Rock and Roll part II in the US:

www.chartstats.com
 
2011-11-16 01:05:50 PM

CheatCommando: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

Yakety Sax


I'd like to see an 80's tribute medley.

Link (new window)

Link (new window)
 
2011-11-16 01:06:48 PM

some.old.lady.: Erm,... Scratch that.

"Pedobear's Picnic"!


Aw, man.... I just thought of the worst one yet:

bowiesongs.files.wordpress.com

They could play *both* sides.
 
2011-11-16 01:08:10 PM

I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"


Good point. I guess that we'll have to wait and see.
 
2011-11-16 01:10:24 PM

GungFu: elev8meL8r: tuckeg: Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Keeping in line for the love given to Gary Glitter's Rock and Roll part II in the US:



GLEE - "Do You Wanna Touch Me" Full Performance feat. Gwyneth Paltrow! (new window)

Guys, you really ought to stop giving this pedo more royalties.
 
2011-11-16 01:10:29 PM

I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"


The NCAA has the power to shut them down!

Please review the chapter on SMU!

And it IS called the *Death Penalty*

They have the power, and they should wield it!
 
2011-11-16 01:12:02 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.
 
2011-11-16 01:14:26 PM
It's scarey to think what the percentage of child molesters who get away with their crimes is.

I'm guessing it's somewhere between 90 and 95 percent.
 
2011-11-16 01:18:07 PM

farkityfarker: It's scarey to think what the percentage of child molesters who get away with their crimes is.

I'm guessing it's somewhere between 90 and 95 percent.


The secret is to not give them cheap candy to be quiet.
 
2011-11-16 01:18:26 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?



What What in the Butt
 
2011-11-16 01:19:50 PM
s1.tvlia.com
 
2011-11-16 01:21:18 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford.

Damn you. Now I'm going to be rooting for PSU and against Stanford.

/pretty sure they won't play Yale
//but they might be so persona-non-grata they might have to settle for UVA
 
2011-11-16 01:23:03 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Voices Carry
 
2011-11-16 01:23:54 PM

there their theyre: Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!

Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!


What this situation needs is a LAWMAN to make an EXECUTIVE DECISION!
 
Ehh
2011-11-16 01:24:49 PM
"Rough Boys" Pete Townshend
"The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys," Traffic
"Fiddle About," The Who
 
2011-11-16 01:24:50 PM

velvet_fog: Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!

And it's all because Sandusky couldn't contain his FIRE DOWN BELOW.

Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!


There doesn't seem to be a GLIMMER of hope, MAN


and wasnt sudden death jean claude van damm?
 
2011-11-16 01:26:54 PM

beta_plus: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford.

Damn you. Now I'm going to be rooting for PSU and against Stanford.

/pretty sure they won't play Yale
//but they might be so persona-non-grata they might have to settle for UVA


Too bad Rice won't play PSU in a bowl game. I'm sure the MOB would come up with something good:

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2011-11-16 01:26:56 PM

MisterLoki: I am pretty leery of any claims that rely on recovering repressed memories.


I agree, except the guy had audio tape of the proff admitting to what he did!
 
2011-11-16 01:27:00 PM
lelio:

Rock and Roll, Part 2

/ they probably already play that


Oh, yes .... there is YouTube
 
2011-11-16 01:27:33 PM

TrixieDelite: tuckeg: Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.


I was about to go with "Only A Lad" but yours is better.
 
2011-11-16 01:30:05 PM
They really are just going to have to nuke the place from orbit.

/It's the only way to be sure.
 
2011-11-16 01:30:48 PM

mtx1234: TrixieDelite: tuckeg: Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.

I was about to go with "Only A Lad" but yours is better.


There's always "Aqualung".
 
2011-11-16 01:31:50 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Rock n Roll part 2.

/Gary Glitter FTW
 
2011-11-16 01:32:32 PM

Vexed Thespian: velvet_fog: Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!

And it's all because Sandusky couldn't contain his FIRE DOWN BELOW.

Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!


There doesn't seem to be a GLIMMER of hope, MAN


and wasnt sudden death jean claude van damm?


Yeah, my bad. I thought it was just the basic genre of stupid low budget action film.

Only bringing back JoePa now can save Penn State Football. He is THE ONE.

/damn, there I go again
 
2011-11-16 01:33:29 PM
Nice

job

pennlive.

This article reads like it was written by an autistic 10 year old
 
2011-11-16 01:33:37 PM

mtx1234: TrixieDelite: tuckeg: Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.

I was about to go with "Only A Lad" but yours is better.


Toucha Toucha Toucha Touch Me (new window)
 
2011-11-16 01:34:09 PM
i1234.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-16 01:37:26 PM

I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"


As far as sanctions go, the Dept of Ed can nuke 'em under the Clery Act, which mandates reporting of all crimes committed on campus and that notification to the community be provided whenever a violent act is committed. I rather suspect that the rape of a child would fall under the heading of 'violent act'. A school that fails to report and make public such crimes can lose its eligibility for Title IV funding (all federal financial aid). No loans. No grants. I have no idea how much money Penn State receives annually through Federal Financial Aid programs, but I'd wager it's a substantial part of their revenue. Cutting off a major financial pipeline will have a major impact.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?
 
2011-11-16 01:41:43 PM

k4mi: MisterLoki: I am pretty leery of any claims that rely on recovering repressed memories.

I agree, except the guy had audio tape of the proff admitting to what he did!


Ah. I read recovered memories, at which point the video player was trying to launch and I shut the tab.

That is a bit different.
 
2011-11-16 01:42:00 PM

aninconvenienterection: Nice

job

pennlive.

This article reads like it was written by an autistic 10 year old


There's a prostate cure for that.
 
2011-11-16 01:42:06 PM

coeyagi: Preemptive: for those of you who are going to take good care to make sure this thread is about generalizing about PSU or Pennsylvania, just remember, it only takes a few accusations at your favorite school and then ALL the victims are going to be coming out too.

Child abuse / molestation is an endemic problem in society, but if it makes you feel better to think that these incidents are isolated to PA or PSU, I can take great care to snicker at your ignorance all day long.


Nice try, Sandusky.
 
2011-11-16 01:43:25 PM

wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"

As far as sanctions go, the Dept of Ed can nuke 'em under the Clery Act, which mandates reporting of all crimes committed on campus and that notification to the community be provided whenever a violent act is committed. I rather suspect that the rape of a child would fall under the heading of 'violent act'. A school that fails to report and make public such crimes can lose its eligibility for Title IV funding (all federal financial aid). No loans. No grants. I have no idea how much money Penn State receives annually through Federal Financial Aid programs, but I'd wager it's a substantial part of their revenue. Cutting off a major financial pipeline will have a major impact.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?


Not if a national championship or a federal research grant is on the line. The level of tolerated criminality by college sports and tenured academics is simply jaw dropping. Keep in mind this scandal is what it took for people to finally say "enough is enough".
 
2011-11-16 01:45:36 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


Change the lyrics a little bit and Sublime's - Wrong Way would work it like a whore. FYI The song spent 26 weeks on Billboard's Alternative Songs chart, peaking at number 3. (new window) But that's ok because it's about a girl right?

Andy's 12 years old
And tomorrow he'll be a whore,
Nobody ever told him
It's the wrong way.

Don't be afraid with the quickness you'll get laid
For your family get paid
It's the wrong way.

I gave him all that I had to give,
I'm gonna make it hard to live.
Big Salty tears running down his chin
And it ruins up his make up

A cigarette,
rests between his lips
but I'm staring at his ass,
It's the wrong way.

Strong if I can,
But I am only a man,
So I take him to the can,

The only family that he's ever had
Is his 7 horny sisters
And his drunk-ass mom.
She needed money
So she put him on the street,
Everything was going fine until the day he met me.

happy are you sad?
Wanna shoot your mom
I'll do anything I can
If it's the wrong way.

We talked all night and
Tried to make it right,
Believe me shiat was tight,
It was the wrong way.

Don't run away if you wanna stay,
Cause I ain't here to make ya', oh no
It's up to you what you really wanna do
Spend some time in America, dub-style!

He'll give you all that he's got to give,
But I'm gonna make it hard to live.
Big salty tears rolling down to his chin
And it smears up his makeup

So we ran away
And I'm sorry when I say
That straight to this very day
It was the wrong way.

He took a hike,
Don't matter if I like it or not
Because he only wants
The wrong way.

I gave him all that I had to give,
But he still wouldn't take it, oh no.
His three brown eyes are leaking like a sieve,
And it still ruins his makeup.
 
2011-11-16 01:48:44 PM

Pvt Joker: beta_plus: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford. Please play Stanford.

Damn you. Now I'm going to be rooting for PSU and against Stanford.

/pretty sure they won't play Yale
//but they might be so persona-non-grata they might have to settle for UVA

Too bad Rice won't play PSU in a bowl game. I'm sure the MOB would come up with something good:

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 469x253]


Yes between MOB and rally club, good times would be had.
 
2011-11-16 01:49:11 PM

TrixieDelite: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.


Jet Boy Jet Girl (new window)
 
2011-11-16 01:56:16 PM

beta_plus: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?

Not if a national championship or a federal research grant is on the line. The level of tolerated criminality by college sports and tenured academics is simply jaw dropping. Keep in mind this scandal is what it took for people to finally say "enough is enough".


And that right there is the most disgusting part of all--and why I hope the DOE shows that the Clery Act has teeth.
 
2011-11-16 02:00:35 PM

gunther_bumpass: TrixieDelite: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.

Jet Boy Jet Girl (new window)


Thanks for that! I'd only heard the version by Thee Headcoatees.
 
2011-11-16 02:02:23 PM

wont_eat_bugs: beta_plus: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?

Not if a national championship or a federal research grant is on the line. The level of tolerated criminality by college sports and tenured academics is simply jaw dropping. Keep in mind this scandal is what it took for people to finally say "enough is enough".

And that right there is the most disgusting part of all--and why I hope the DOE shows that the Clery Act has teeth.


The DOE will open a Title IX investigation because Penn State was not providing equal opportunity for underage girls to be raped by members of the athletic staff.
 
2011-11-16 02:06:07 PM
I still don't see pleasure in being a pedo. Maybe I will when I get old!!
 
2011-11-16 02:07:32 PM

Cybernetic: wont_eat_bugs: beta_plus: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?

Not if a national championship or a federal research grant is on the line. The level of tolerated criminality by college sports and tenured academics is simply jaw dropping. Keep in mind this scandal is what it took for people to finally say "enough is enough".

And that right there is the most disgusting part of all--and why I hope the DOE shows that the Clery Act has teeth.

The DOE will open a Title IX investigation because Penn State was not providing equal opportunity for underage girls to be raped by members of the athletic staff.


You are an evil, evil, person.

/I LOL'D!
//aisle seat
 
2011-11-16 02:08:00 PM
I really have to finish my book so I can get a job at a different university. What a farking nightmare.
 
2011-11-16 02:08:04 PM
Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.
 
2011-11-16 02:11:13 PM

Cybernetic: wont_eat_bugs: beta_plus: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister:

And that right there is the most disgusting part of all--and why I hope the DOE shows that the Clery Act has teeth.

The DOE will open a Title IX investigation because Penn State was not providing equal opportunity for underage girls to be raped by members of the athletic staff.


Penn State will claim that they recruited heavily and advertised nationally, but they just couldn't find enough 8-12 year old girls willing to go into the football locker rooms to participate in the program.

A crying shame, really. Such a life-changing opportunity, too.
 
2011-11-16 02:14:04 PM

Matthew Keene: aninconvenienterection: Nice

job

pennlive.

This article reads like it was written by an autistic 10 year old

There's a prostate cure for that.


cdn0.hark.com

kinky
 
2011-11-16 02:14:44 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.


It's true that most faculty have almost no interaction with the football program (we only acknowledge it exists when the traffic is clogging up our streets on home game weekends), but this story does suggest that there was a disturbing pattern of denial and suppression under Spanier's administration. This story might be bogus, but if it isn't, it's bad.
 
2011-11-16 02:18:32 PM

atomic-age: gunther_bumpass: TrixieDelite: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

"Nasty Habits"--Oingo Boingo.

Jet Boy Jet Girl (new window)

Thanks for that! I'd only heard the version by Thee Headcoatees.


ha ha.. I was playing them at work one day and a guy stopped and asked me

"who's this?"

"headcoatees"

"They're probably pretty hot, with a voice like that"

"not.. not particularly, no"

"then what the hell are you listening to them for?"

People are funny.

lyrics nsfw (new window)
 
2011-11-16 02:21:07 PM

farkingnotworking: Spanier


Fark him and the little boyhorse he rode in on. Hated him when I was attending PSU, hated him ever since. He always seemed skeevy to me... never trusted him. As disgusting as this whole mess is, it doesn't surprise me he'd be involved in it somehow.
 
2011-11-16 02:24:33 PM

farkingnotworking: I really have to finish my book so I can get a job at a different university. What a farking nightmare.


"And where was your last employment, Mr. Farkingnotworking?"
"I was a professor at Penis State--I mean Penn State! Penn State! I'm so sorry!"
 
2011-11-16 02:27:41 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.


Well, there is the small matter of the $50 million a year football made for Penn State. Pretty sure some of the profs saw a cut of the action.
 
2011-11-16 02:28:21 PM

Meatschool: farkingnotworking: Spanier

Fark him and the little boyhorse he rode in on. Hated him when I was attending PSU,




ha .. meatschool.. PSU.. I'm sure there's a connection there, but I'm not seeing it.

/nah, i'm just kidding. you're alright.
 
2011-11-16 02:30:13 PM

mikaloyd: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

The newest molester and cover-up is in Penn State's childhood development department. Which is ironic.


That's not really ironic.
 
2011-11-16 02:30:38 PM
gunther bumpass They're one of my favorite bands. I introduced my 20something coworkers to "Come In To My Mouth," and now they're fans, too. YouTube likes to remove videos of Headcoatees songs, I've found.
 
2011-11-16 02:33:00 PM

some.old.lady.: Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"

The NCAA has the power to shut them down!

Please review the chapter on SMU!

And it IS called the *Death Penalty*

They have the power, and they should wield it!


The NCAA has no actual power in and of itself. It relies upon the member institutions for enforcement. The NCAA is also under attack itself for the 70 years of relying upon unpaid and unprotected labor. Basically, this is not the time to cast stones from their glass house.
 
2011-11-16 02:34:44 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.


The only reason you can get from Blacksburg to Roanoke in less than hour these days is because of the money Vick and that team brought in. VT was just a cowtown with a school no one had ever heard of before Beamer got there. Radford was a more important institution.
 
2011-11-16 02:38:05 PM
Hell is for Children. Pat Benatar.
 
2011-11-16 02:39:37 PM
All I know is this has really taken some heat off my years at PSU in the late 90s where I spent my time molesting willing girls over the age of 18.
 
2011-11-16 02:43:55 PM
Giving the football program the death penalty for this, just based on present facts, is almost as stupid as giving USC's program the death penalty because OJ killed his wife. Assuming Sandusky's guilt, he is a vile tool that took advantage of innocent children, his family, his friends, his employers, his donors, and the respected name of Penn State.

State College is a small town. The fact that Sandusky lasted unnoticed for so long is a testimony to the evil silence that pedophiles rely on for their crimes. The notion of a pedo ring there is preposterous, though, I think. It is a small, close-knit community.

I'm not defending anyone's actions here. Firing Paterno makes sense. But doing it without any due process or even having him tell his side to the BoT before canning him smacks of an even bigger cover-up. The person who wanted most to protect the reputation of the university was Spanier, who was president too long for his own good (nealry 20 years) and taken on the air of invincibilty. Why did he cancel Joe's press conference? Would Joe have said, "I told President Spanier and he said that he'd look into it. I trusted him."?

This is a university administration problem, not a football problem, not a faculty problem, not a student problem, and not a town problem. It's frickin' Mayberry up there. But I guess we never knew what was going on in the back of Floyd's barbershop, either, did we?
 
2011-11-16 02:50:34 PM

beta_plus: Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.

Well, there is the small matter of the $50 million a year football made for Penn State. Pretty sure some of the profs saw a cut of the action.


Very, very doubtful. Academics and sports often maintain totally separate budgets, and that "profit" is almost certainly totally illusory. There are a ton of expenses in D1 football that simply don't appear on most team's budgets, and even if one team is profitable all that happens is the money goes to others.

I can't speak to PSU (even though I live in PA these days) but in VA Tech's case, they have to funnel millions of dollars in student activity fees to the athletic teams to merely keep them running. For VA Tech, it's $6.5M a year, which is more than 10% of the total budget. (new window)

Now, football itself is "profitable" there (new window) but none of that profit goes back to the college- it all goes to the other teams, and they still need ~$200/year from every student in activity fees to keep running.

D1 sports are a huge scam.
 
2011-11-16 02:52:36 PM

Nanny Ogg: I will bet that there is a whole pedo ring. And I live just 30 minutes away. It has been a madhouse here.

I doubt there is a pedo ring. This new claim is completely unrelated to Sandusky and took place decades earlier. Despite what the media may lead you to believe, there isn't much fact-based evidence of pedophiles working in rings, except for child porn, and most of that takes place over the internet, not in real life.
 
2011-11-16 02:55:09 PM

cryinoutloud: farkingnotworking: I really have to finish my book so I can get a job at a different university. What a farking nightmare.

"And where was your last employment, Mr. Farkingnotworking?"
"I was a professor at Penis State--I mean Penn State! Penn State! I'm so sorry!"


"Why yes, Mr. Department Chairman, I would love to tell you more about my approach to pedogogy, I mean pedagogy. Ugh. That's okay...I'll just let myself out."
 
2011-11-16 02:55:31 PM

usernameguy: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Apparently this professor is UNDER SIEGE 2!


Because the little boy had a FIRE DOWN BELOW!

/someone probably beat me to it but I'm not reading the whole thread.
 
2011-11-16 03:10:53 PM

wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"

As far as sanctions go, the Dept of Ed can nuke 'em under the Clery Act, which mandates reporting of all crimes committed on campus and that notification to the community be provided whenever a violent act is committed. I rather suspect that the rape of a child would fall under the heading of 'violent act'. A school that fails to report and make public such crimes can lose its eligibility for Title IV funding (all federal financial aid). No loans. No grants. I have no idea how much money Penn State receives annually through Federal Financial Aid programs, but I'd wager it's a substantial part of their revenue. Cutting off a major financial pipeline will have a major impact.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?

but that would be devastating to the entire school, not just the football program. i don't understand why the entire university should be punished for the actions of a few. there are tens of thousands of good people who either work or study at PSU. i don't think they should all suffer.
 
2011-11-16 03:16:56 PM

Meatschool: farkingnotworking: Spanier

Fark him and the little boyhorse he rode in on. Hated him when I was attending PSU, hated him ever since. He always seemed skeevy to me... never trusted him. As disgusting as this whole mess is, it doesn't surprise me he'd be involved in it somehow.


i never liked that creep either. i think it's the eyebrows.
 
2011-11-16 03:19:29 PM

evaned: "PSU better cancel the semester. By going to classes, you're disrespecting the victim!"

(Sounds a little more dumb than if you substitute in the football analogy, no?)


Football provides degrees or useful knowledge for further job training for thousands of students?
 
2011-11-16 03:20:56 PM

I_C_Weener: How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"


Would you say that offering a child a walk on position on the Penn State football team (when he is old enough) in exchange for sex was an NCAA violation? Because that is in the Grand Jury findings.
 
2011-11-16 03:24:24 PM

mikaloyd: Would you say that offering a child a walk on position on the Penn State football team (when he is old enough) in exchange for sex was an NCAA violation? Because that is in the Grand Jury findings.


Um...I must not have gotten that far. Ugh.
 
2011-11-16 03:31:44 PM
If Penn State ends up in the Outback Bowl again, I am so going and wearing a Pedostate Pedobear mask.
 
2011-11-16 03:32:45 PM

I_C_Weener: mikaloyd: Would you say that offering a child a walk on position on the Penn State football team (when he is old enough) in exchange for sex was an NCAA violation? Because that is in the Grand Jury findings.

Um...I must not have gotten that far. Ugh.


Happened in San Antonio Texas at the Alamo Bowl. To a kid Sandusky flew in with the team. San Antone wants a stab at convicting Sandusky too.

Anyway that sure seems like it would be against any number of NCAA rules to me.
 
2011-11-16 03:34:09 PM

rynthetyn: If Penn State ends up in the Outback Bowl again, I am so going and wearing a Pedostate Pedobear mask.


Dont let them poke you in the Outback!
 
2011-11-16 03:34:48 PM

housedogpartyfavor: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"

As far as sanctions go, the Dept of Ed can nuke 'em under the Clery Act, which mandates reporting of all crimes committed on campus and that notification to the community be provided whenever a violent act is committed. I rather suspect that the rape of a child would fall under the heading of 'violent act'. A school that fails to report and make public such crimes can lose its eligibility for Title IV funding (all federal financial aid). No loans. No grants. I have no idea how much money Penn State receives annually through Federal Financial Aid programs, but I'd wager it's a substantial part of their revenue. Cutting off a major financial pipeline will have a major impact.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?
but that would be devastating to the entire school, not just the football program. i don't understand why the entire university should be punished for the actions of a few. there are tens of thousands of good people who either work or study at PSU. i don't think they should all suffer.


Yes, they should suffer. If Arthur Andersen had to fall for Enron and WorldCom, so does Penn State. It's clear that the culture of the institution is corrupt and beyond redemption. It has shown no repentance except for a few meaningless platitudes while thinking that's it above the law. They simply cannot be trusted.

Now, should they be shut down by court order? Of course not, that's illegal. But having the PA legislature terminate all funding and the US government sick the Clery act on it while ensuring that it is open to full liability for civil suits should do the trick. While we don't have the right to throw the employees of Penn State in jail (yet), I and millions of other PA and American citizens are well within our rights as of right now to no longer trust them with our tax dollars.

Thousands of people who had nothing to do w/Enron and WorldCom has their lives ruined by being employees of Andersen. No one felt sorry for them.
 
2011-11-16 03:39:31 PM

mikaloyd: rynthetyn: If Penn State ends up in the Outback Bowl again, I am so going and wearing a Pedostate Pedobear mask.

Dont let them poke you in the Outback!


I'm an adult female, not a little boy, I don't think I have anything to worry about.
 
2011-11-16 03:40:07 PM

Meatschool: farkingnotworking: Spanier

Fark him and the little boyhorse he rode in on. Hated him when I was attending PSU, hated him ever since. He always seemed skeevy to me... never trusted him. As disgusting as this whole mess is, it doesn't surprise me he'd be involved in it somehow.


Spanier is a douche, I hated him too. Him and his stupid washboard.

/will I have to change the school's name on my degree soon?
//never thought I'd see the day
 
2011-11-16 03:41:54 PM

housedogpartyfavor: Meatschool: farkingnotworking: Spanier

Fark him and the little boyhorse he rode in on. Hated him when I was attending PSU, hated him ever since. He always seemed skeevy to me... never trusted him. As disgusting as this whole mess is, it doesn't surprise me he'd be involved in it somehow.

i never liked that creep either. i think it's the eyebrows.


You know, as far as presidents go, he wasn't that bad, if you ignore the egregious mishandling of abuse reports, that is. But the Trump-like comb over was never a good idea. And having to sit through his magic shows at faculty meeting--good lord, was that annoying.
 
2011-11-16 03:45:12 PM

mikaloyd: I_C_Weener: mikaloyd: Would you say that offering a child a walk on position on the Penn State football team (when he is old enough) in exchange for sex was an NCAA violation? Because that is in the Grand Jury findings.

Um...I must not have gotten that far. Ugh.

Happened in San Antonio Texas at the Alamo Bowl. To a kid Sandusky flew in with the team. San Antone wants a stab at convicting Sandusky too.

Anyway that sure seems like it would be against any number of NCAA rules to me.


Everytime you think that you've hit rock bottom in this case... making myself a stiff drink when I get home tonight.
 
2011-11-16 03:49:04 PM

This text is now purple: Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.

The only reason you can get from Blacksburg to Roanoke in less than hour these days is because of the money Vick and that team brought in. VT was just a cowtown with a school no one had ever heard of before Beamer got there. Radford was a more important institution.


Hunh? It was a university of ~30K students that had been around for over a century. Their Nobel prize winner did her work long before Vick arrived. They built the 3rd fastest supercomputer in the world while I was there. The chemistry department was ranked #3 for polymer chemistry in the world- other departments have similar rankings. The Corps of Cadets was as well known as VMI's or the Citadel's back when that mattered.

And the road you mentioned? It was being built while Vick was there- it was being planned for years before that. He had nothing to do with it at all.

My in-laws went to Tech and Radford. If you honestly think Radford was *ever* more important you're smoking something.
 
2011-11-16 03:58:07 PM

rynthetyn: mikaloyd: rynthetyn: If Penn State ends up in the Outback Bowl again, I am so going and wearing a Pedostate Pedobear mask.

Dont let them poke you in the Outback!

I'm an adult female, not a little boy, I don't think I have anything to worry about.


You'll be safe then.
 
2011-11-16 03:58:07 PM

Glockenspiel Hero: This text is now purple: Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.

The only reason you can get from Blacksburg to Roanoke in less than hour these days is because of the money Vick and that team brought in. VT was just a cowtown with a school no one had ever heard of before Beamer got there. Radford was a more important institution.

Hunh? It was a university of ~30K students that had been around for over a century. Their Nobel prize winner did her work long before Vick arrived. They built the 3rd fastest supercomputer in the world while I was there. The chemistry department was ranked #3 for polymer chemistry in the world- other departments have similar rankings. The Corps of Cadets was as well known as VMI's or the Citadel's back when that mattered.

And the road you mentioned? It was being built while Vick was there- it was being planned for years before that. He had nothing to do with it at all.

My in-laws went to Tech and Radford. If you honestly think Radford was *ever* more important you're smoking something.


Oh snap!

1.bp.blogspot.com

am i doing it right?
 
2011-11-16 03:58:38 PM

AngryPanda: /will I have to change the school's name on my degree soon?


Based on the attitudes of some folks in here, job hunting with a PSU degree on your resume is about to get a LOT more difficult.
 
2011-11-16 04:00:42 PM
i212.photobucket.com
 
2011-11-16 04:13:17 PM

housedogpartyfavor: wont_eat_bugs: I_C_Weener: beta_plus: einsteinsbabysister: The football program needs to be eliminated from Penn State, hit them where it hurts.

If the NCAA doesn't give them the death penalty (and not 1 year - better be a decade if not permanent), I can't wait to hear the contrived nonsense they use to justify their decision.

How about the authority of the NCAA to impose any penalty derives from their rules. This is not a violation of those rules. As far as I've been able to see there is no rule against kiddy diddling in the showers.

However, if there was pimping kids out for donations to the school or football program, that is almost as vile as buying a kid a hamburger on a recruiting trip.

Sad as it is, unless there is a violation of the NCAA rules, they can't do anything. Maybe there is some morals clause.

What they can do is, "So, Penn State, we can't penalize you legally by our rules. But do you really want to fight that battle in the media and court for the next 10 years because we are going to farking ban your ass anyway?"

As far as sanctions go, the Dept of Ed can nuke 'em under the Clery Act, which mandates reporting of all crimes committed on campus and that notification to the community be provided whenever a violent act is committed. I rather suspect that the rape of a child would fall under the heading of 'violent act'. A school that fails to report and make public such crimes can lose its eligibility for Title IV funding (all federal financial aid). No loans. No grants. I have no idea how much money Penn State receives annually through Federal Financial Aid programs, but I'd wager it's a substantial part of their revenue. Cutting off a major financial pipeline will have a major impact.

Off the subject of institutional death penalties, one thing I can't help but wonder: when are people going to start listening to the children? When did we as a community break faith with them? Are we not supposed to defend those who cannot defend themselves?
but that would be devastating to the entire school, not just the football program. i don't understand why the entire university should be punished for the actions of a few. there are tens of thousands of good people who either work or study at PSU. i don't think they should all suffer.


It's not fair and it's not right and I don't wish it on them as punishment. However, if metaphorically nuking from orbit stops this at victim one rather than victim whatever ungodly number of kids were abused I'm okay with Penn State being metaphorically nuked from orbit. Life isn't fair. The innocent victims have already had an unfair shake if some innocent adults suffer to protect some more kids down the line well I would rather it happen differently but if this is what it takes to shake up our society and stop protecting child predators well that's something I for one am not going to lose sleep over. I see this as being larger than Penn State. I'm hoping after this whole train wreck playin out in living color the next person who is unfortunate enough to be in McCleary's position will do better.
 
2011-11-16 04:19:35 PM

tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?


If it turns out to be Stanford, they'll certainly come up with something appropriate. Bring extra popcorn.
 
2011-11-16 04:25:14 PM

Meatschool: AngryPanda: /will I have to change the school's name on my degree soon?

Based on the attitudes of some folks in here, job hunting with a PSU degree on your resume is about to get a LOT more difficult.


I hate every minute of this. There are thousands of people who had nothing to do with the football program or who would've had the balls to say something if they encountered it, and since it's America, we're all lumped in with these people.
 
2011-11-16 04:42:12 PM
Is it sick that I have a shiny pair of Penn State soccer shorts to wank in?

I need to know.
 
2011-11-16 04:45:55 PM

mikaloyd: rynthetyn: mikaloyd: rynthetyn: If Penn State ends up in the Outback Bowl again, I am so going and wearing a Pedostate Pedobear mask.

Dont let them poke you in the Outback!

I'm an adult female, not a little boy, I don't think I have anything to worry about.

You'll be safe then.



not on Fark, though.

hey baby, wanna... kill all humans?
 
2011-11-16 05:00:24 PM

Peppermint Rose: The innocent victims have already had an unfair shake if some innocent adults suffer to protect some more kids down the line well I would rather it happen differently but if this is what it takes to shake up our society and stop protecting child predators well that's something I for one am not going to lose sleep over. I see this as being larger than Penn State.


I sort of understand where you're coming from -- but at the same time, realize that if the fallout from this significantly harms PSU, you're talking about making it significantly more difficult for people across an entire state to go to college. We're not just talking about "some innocent adults", you're talking about affecting tens of thousands of them, and that's even ignoring the "Based on the attitudes of some folks in here, job hunting with a PSU degree on your resume is about to get a LOT more difficult" effect on the hundreds of thousands of alumni. The problems are already spilling over more than they deserve to.

These are really bad charges, and we really do need to look at what led to all of this. (Which, BTW, is why I really dislike the focus on the football program -- I think the problems are some combination of deeper and different enough that it makes the football program a scapegoat while masking the societal problems.) But killing the university wouldn't do any good either. (Even I think killing the football program alone is -- at least based on current evidence -- a knee-jerk, overkill reaction. And I'm probably among the least enthusiastic person you'll find at a Big 10 school when it comes to football!)

(In the interest of full disclosure I do have a stake in this -- I grew up in State College and did my undergrad at PSU. I will have a grad degree from another school though, so PSU won't be my terminal degree institution.)
 
2011-11-16 05:04:18 PM

AngryPanda: Meatschool: AngryPanda: /will I have to change the school's name on my degree soon?

Based on the attitudes of some folks in here, job hunting with a PSU degree on your resume is about to get a LOT more difficult.

I hate every minute of this. There are thousands of people who had nothing to do with the football program or who would've had the balls to say something if they encountered it, and since it's America, we're all lumped in with these people.


not that i agree with meatschool, but those riots are NOT helping the penn state student image.
then again, most of my good friends went to and work at penn state and i know they wouldn't have gone to those riots. or any future riots.

/or a psu football game, for that matter.
//that said, when i visit, i don't think i'll be going to the penn state creamery.
///i know what you're thinking, but it's the name of an ice cream shop. really.
 
2011-11-16 05:10:03 PM
i1.peperonity.info
 
2011-11-16 05:52:13 PM

coeyagi: Do you think the National Restaurant Association should go down because of Herman Cain?


No, I think they should go down because they're just another corrupt special interest lobby that's farking the country over in the name of greed.

But if they go down because of Herman Cain, I'm OK with that.
 
2011-11-16 06:42:00 PM

evaned: Peppermint Rose: The innocent victims have already had an unfair shake if some innocent adults suffer to protect some more kids down the line well I would rather it happen differently but if this is what it takes to shake up our society and stop protecting child predators well that's something I for one am not going to lose sleep over. I see this as being larger than Penn State.

I sort of understand where you're coming from -- but at the same time, realize that if the fallout from this significantly harms PSU, you're talking about making it significantly more difficult for people across an entire state to go to college. We're not just talking about "some innocent adults", you're talking about affecting tens of thousands of them, and that's even ignoring the "Based on the attitudes of some folks in here, job hunting with a PSU degree on your resume is about to get a LOT more difficult" effect on the hundreds of thousands of alumni. The problems are already spilling over more than they deserve to.

These are really bad charges, and we really do need to look at what led to all of this. (Which, BTW, is why I really dislike the focus on the football program -- I think the problems are some combination of deeper and different enough that it makes the football program a scapegoat while masking the societal problems.) But killing the university wouldn't do any good either. (Even I think killing the football program alone is -- at least based on current evidence -- a knee-jerk, overkill reaction. And I'm probably among the least enthusiastic person you'll find at a Big 10 school when it comes to football!)

(In the interest of full disclosure I do have a stake in this -- I grew up in State College and did my undergrad at PSU. I will have a grad degree from another school though, so PSU won't be my terminal degree institution.)


I think we actually agree on this. I don't like it and think it's exceedingly unfair that Penn State students and faculty are going to suffer because of Sandusky and that's where the majority of the blame goes.

However, my thoughts on this are about how our larger society will deal with this. I am quite familiar with how child abuse plays out. JoPa and company's responses are actually very, very typical of how these things work. Although I am saddened by how this was apparently handled I am not at all surprised. People convince themselves that it wasn't really that bad, it didn't really happen, to use the sicko's own words it was just horseplay in the shower that someone misinterpreted, the child is fantasizing etc, etc. We as a society want to believe that child abuse is rare and the people who do it are obvious monsters. Stranger danger and all that jazz. When in actuality the people most likely to abuse children are like Sandusky fine upstanding churchgoing members of the community. Pedophiles target their victims, awkward shy kids and in Sandusky's case poor and underpriviledged kids. When the sexual abuse isn't within the family (in which case the dysfunction of the family unit as a whole runs so very deep that the pedophile is integral to the functioning and so it's dismissed) a lot of these kids won't have a lot of adult involvement and/or are abused or neglected by their parents, pedophiles also will target kids with developmental or other problems so any affectionate attention from an adult is good in these kid's minds. Also a lot of kids will be abused by multiple perpetrators it's almost like pedophiles have a sixth sense to find the most vulnerable and least likely to tell and least likely to be believed if they do tell kids.

If Penn State dies in order to correct our cultural myths about child abuse and the next time the person in Sandusky's position is hung out to dry the first time well although that's a really steep price and lots of people who don't deserve it are going to be the ones paying it if we as a culture can grow to the point that child abuse being covered up is the aberation rather than the norm I personally am okay with it. The way I think of it in the case of Penn State getting a bad rap and the hardships that will impose it will be primarily adults paying that cost, if the people who would have covered for abuse understand that their lives will be ruined if they cover for abuse then that's kids who won't have to pay the price. If an innocent has to pay a price I personally would rather see an innocent adult rather than a kid pay it. And make no mistake victims of childhood sexual abuse pay a price that lasts their entire lives no matter how well adjusted they are.
 
2011-11-16 06:59:49 PM
Stop saying "they" at Penn State weren't interested.
Give us NAMES.
Who specifically swept all this under the rug, and didn't care about kids getting raped?
Give us a list of names.
 
2011-11-16 07:03:53 PM
And, still, the douchebags in the media and on the internet still attack JoePa and Mike McQueary....like what...they were going to report it to the PSU President?

The real douchebags and Pedo-Enablers are Graham Spanier (ex PSU president) and ESPN. Spanier...because he loves his Pedophiles.....ESPN, because they never go after Spanier because he is head of the BCS...which ESPN has nearly a billion $$$ tied into

Oh, and all those media pervs and internet trolls who claim they "would have beat up Sandusky while raping that boy in the shower".....you are the biggest wussies and tampon-eaters out there...and would have choked up (and choked off) worse than McQueary or Paterno ever could.

For all this boy rape...there sure is a lot of shiat being thrown around
 
2011-11-16 07:23:29 PM
JoePa sold his house to his wife for $1 four months ago. (new window)

How's that legacy working for you?
 
2011-11-16 07:30:48 PM

common sense is an oxymoron: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

If it turns out to be Stanford, they'll certainly come up with something appropriate. Bring extra popcorn.


I look forward to this with all my heart. Especially if say, CalTech and MIT, put aside their differences to assist.
 
2011-11-16 07:33:07 PM

beta_plus: JoePa sold his house to his wife for $1 four months ago. (new window)

How's that legacy working for you?


Depends where he put the dollar.
 
2011-11-16 07:46:02 PM

beta_plus: JoePa sold his house to his wife for $1 four months ago. (new window)

How's that legacy working for you?


This just to hide his assets from civil lawsuits. After testifying in front of the Grand Jury, JoePA realized that this situation was going to cause huge liability problems and started transferring his wealth and house to his wife.

This has nothing to do with estate planning (which would involve a trust with joint assets to avoid inheritance taxes); it is straight-up about hiding his assets from civil suits.
 
2011-11-16 08:11:27 PM
Ah, yes. Purge mode. Get a few more actual peos exposed and, sadly, allow score settling and prurient broad brushing.

Read the Grand Jury filing. Sandusky was about as crude in conducting his abuse as one would expect from a jock. Twenty years down the road the victims would be more likely to expose the idiot because they could clearly interpret that being pinned down under the slavering arsehole on a wrestling mat while rubbing weenies against one's will was an obvious violation.

The RC Jesuitic approach (as related to me by a victim) included `grooming' the (older target than SanSkin-it's boys) victim to the point where the victim felt compelled to initiate the activity on the perp. Years down the road the guilt experienced by the victim far outweighed his chops for justice. However, it doesn't always work: Google: Carmine Sita.

/had an HS coach who, when asked by some wise guy what we should do if the fire alarm rang while we were showering answered, without skipping a beat, "Wrap your towels around your heads and get outside". Anything beyond such sage advice ...
 
2011-11-16 08:55:44 PM

Braindeath: common sense is an oxymoron: tuckeg: I said this towards the end of another PSU thread but it's even a better idea now.

Whoever is scheduled to play PSU in a bowl game should have their marching band practice forming a giant pedobear for the half-time show. Now that I think about it, some of the band could also form children and the pedobear could chase them across the field. Any suggestion for what the band could play?

If it turns out to be Stanford, they'll certainly come up with something appropriate. Bring extra popcorn.

I look forward to this with all my heart. Especially if say, CalTech and MIT, put aside their differences to assist.


That might be so much LULZ the universe would be destroyed.
 
2011-11-17 12:30:26 PM

Vexed Thespian: velvet_fog: Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!

And it's all because Sandusky couldn't contain his FIRE DOWN BELOW.

Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!


There doesn't seem to be a GLIMMER of hope, MAN


and wasnt sudden death jean claude van damm?


It seems that they're all ON DANGEROUS GROUND!

/i feel dirty
 
2011-11-17 01:29:31 PM

tracer03: Vexed Thespian: velvet_fog: Karma Curmudgeon: vinnybang: beta_plus: LegacyDL: usernameguy: Jake Havechek: Penn State is ABOVE THE LAW!

Penn State's football program is MARKED FOR DEATH!

It's actually UNDER SIEGE!

Penn State's football program is facing SUDDEN DEATH!

/for DOUBLE IMPACTing small boys

The rumors of a conspiracy will be HARD TO KILL!!

That's what happens when people act like they're ABOVE THE LAW!

And it's all because Sandusky couldn't contain his FIRE DOWN BELOW.

Everyone will be OUT FOR JUSTICE!


There doesn't seem to be a GLIMMER of hope, MAN


and wasnt sudden death jean claude van damm?

It seems that they're all ON DANGEROUS GROUND!

/i feel dirty


you shouldnt feel dirty, im the one who referenced a movie featuring a wayans brother.... THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED

(note that "that i actually watched" is not a steven segal movie, just something i capitalized for emphasis)
 
2011-11-17 02:31:20 PM

Vexed Thespian:
you shouldnt feel dirty, im the one who referenced a movie featuring a wayans brother.... THAT I ACTUALLY WATCHED

(note that "that i actually watched" is not a steven segal movie, just something i capitalized for emphasis)


No, I feel dirty because I didn't have to look that up. As atrocious as his movies have been (and as few as I've seen) I seem to know an awful lot about his curriculum vitae...
 
2011-11-18 04:57:48 AM

Glockenspiel Hero: beta_plus: Glockenspiel Hero: Honestly subby, you expect us to believe that the football program and the academic program at Penn State had anything to do with each other?

I worked at Va Tech back in the Michael Vick days. The only connection is that the name is printed on their jerseys.

/It was a trip seeing all the corporate jets flying in to wine and dine him.

Well, there is the small matter of the $50 million a year football made for Penn State. Pretty sure some of the profs saw a cut of the action.

Very, very doubtful. Academics and sports often maintain totally separate budgets, and that "profit" is almost certainly totally illusory. There are a ton of expenses in D1 football that simply don't appear on most team's budgets, and even if one team is profitable all that happens is the money goes to others.

I can't speak to PSU (even though I live in PA these days) but in VA Tech's case, they have to funnel millions of dollars in student activity fees to the athletic teams to merely keep them running. For VA Tech, it's $6.5M a year, which is more than 10% of the total budget. (new window)

Now, football itself is "profitable" there (new window) but none of that profit goes back to the college- it all goes to the other teams, and they still need ~$200/year from every student in activity fees to keep running.

D1 sports are a huge scam.


A quick Google search pulls up outdated information that is probably a representative although not exact description of the true economics:

"For the 2004-2005 fiscal year, the athletic department contributed roughly $10.7 million to UNL, according to a 2005 economic impact report from UNL's Bureau of Business Research. That contribution represented 19 percent of the $56.8 million in total expenditures for the athletic department." 1

A 2009 Forbes report puts PSU at the #3 most valuable football program and Nebraska at #4. 2
 
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