"Bush is a true leader, he doesn't care about the polls!"

"Obama is plummeting in the polls!!"

I remember a Bill O'Reilly Factor segment with Brit Hume when Bush was tanking in the polls. They spent 10 minutes explaining why polls are flawed and don't really matter. Now O'Reilly brings up Obama's poll numbers nearly every night.

Howie Spankowitz: And he will still beat whatever brain dead, fruit loop candidate the Republicans end up belching out of the primaries.

How does that make you feel, Republicans?

Democrat President and a Republican Congress?

I can live with that.

His approval rating is irrelevant. Americans hate everyone these days. It's who you hate the least that matters most.

I don't know why everyone hates Jimmy Carter, I loved him in Ghost and Mr. Chicken.

Meh, Clinton's Gallup rating was at 52% in October 1996 when he absolutely annihilated Bob Dole by 220 EVs for re-election. 46% is hardly some damning number, especially when the GOP candidate field is an open, long running joke.

His approval rating is 46% and he is easily polling ahead of every GOP candidate. Wait until the GOP candidates spend another 6 months going hard right trying to win the GOP primary.

They'll scare every moderate and republican that is two steps to the left of Bill O'Reilly and Obama will have another $750m to remind people that the republicans are nutjobs and he already has 4 years of experience trying to fix the shiat they broke.

The fact that Obama's approval rating has remained relatively constant while congress' approval rating has plummeted is bad news...for Obama.

The important thing is that 30% of South Carolinian Republicans believe Obama was born outside the U.S.

With quality education like that, how could this poll be biased?

Dusk-You-n-Me: Cletus C.: Americans hate everyone these days. It's who you hate the least that matters most.

So Obama is in good shape then.

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That is probably the funniest graph I've seen in a while. I can just state the comparisons in a deadpan voice and it's instant comedy. :)

coeyagi: The important thing is that 30% of South Carolinian Republicans believe Obama was born outside the U.S.

With quality education like that, how could this poll be biased?



Only 30% That's better than I thought it would be. Look at their best and brightest....

Two questions:

What was his approval rating during the 2010 election cycle?
What was President W. Bush's approval rating at the end of his term?

The Homer Tax: The fact that Obama's approval rating has remained relatively constant while congress' approval rating has plummeted is bad news...for Obama.

This.

I think what we've seen over even the past year, primarily manifested in the budget crisis, is that the American public is sick and tired of politicians pandering to their "base" and always trying to win and destroy the other party instead of working together in a timely fashion. What we need are good politicians who don't care about poll numbers and are willing to put their jobs on the line to make bold decisions. Right now, Congress is a bunch of pussies. And it's only going to get worse.

The only stock to go up these days is Jimmy Carter's.

Dusk-You-n-Me: Obama's approval rating is exactly where it was 18 months ago. The better story is that he's dooooooooooooomed.



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But George W. Bush, at 50%, and Richard Nixon, at 49%, also won re-election, and Bush's father George H.W. Bush had a 56% approval rating yet lost to Bill Clinton the following year.

You mean one poll, a year before the election, might not reflect the actual election result?

But how well does he poll with Generic Republican Candidate?

internutthead: /Horse races - the media loves them

Especially when they have to shoot Secretariat in the leg to get it close.

Obama would probably be in trouble if the opposition weren't complete whackjobs.

Well, if I've learned one thing from Freerepublic, it's that CNN polls cannot be trusted... unless they confirm my own political bias.

How does he poll against the ideal presidential candidate as determined by the person answering the questions?

rufus-t-firefly: But George W. Bush, at 50%, and Richard Nixon, at 49%, also won re-election, and Bush's father George H.W. Bush had a 56% approval rating yet lost to Bill Clinton the following year.

You mean one poll, a year before the election, might not reflect the actual election result?

This. Alot can happen in a year....well, except the GOP contenders becoming sane.

If Obama wins all the states Kerry won in 2004 and he wins Ohio then he will win another term. What Kerry State is Gingrich or Romney going to win? Romney might be able to win NH but I don't see Gingrich doing that.

Also, with unemployment still over 9% a 46% approval rating is something to be happy about. It means half the country is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt regarding the horrible economy.

xanadian: Unless they nominate someone relatively sane like Huntsman. Or maybe even *shudder* Romney.

In other words A Snowball's Chance. Or maybe even A Creepy Grin Snowball's Chance.

Emrick: If Obama wins all the states Kerry won in 2004 and he wins Ohio then he will win another term. What Kerry State is Gingrich or Romney going to win? Romney might be able to win NH but I don't see Gingrich doing that.

Also, with unemployment still over 9% a 46% approval rating is something to be happy about. It means half the country is giving Obama the benefit of the doubt regarding the horrible economy.

Virginia is going to be tough. Obama really needs to hang on to Virginia.

cabbyman: Democrat President and a Republican Congress?

I can live with that.

But we don't have a Democrat President. We have a Democratic President. Can you live with that?

Leader O'Cola: coeyagi: The important thing is that 30% of South Carolinian Republicans believe Obama was born outside the U.S.

With quality education like that, how could this poll be biased?



Only 30% That's better than I thought it would be. Look at their best and brightest....
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Who gives a shiat......she's a hot, blonde, dumb Southerner. I wouldn't date her for her knowledge of foreign affairs. I would just make her walk around the house naked.

JLEM: Virginia is going to be tough. Obama really needs to hang on to Virginia.

If Obama wins Virginia its likely then he likely won the election easily and Virginia was just along for the ride. Other states will be the "deciding" state that gets Obama to 270 before Viriginia (Ohio). I don't see Obama losing Ohio but winning Virginia.

2012 is going to be a long, annoying year.

FuturePastNow: 2012 is going to be a long, annoying year.

You said it, man (or lady).

Dusk-You-n-Me: Cletus C.: Americans hate everyone these days. It's who you hate the least that matters most.

So Obama is in good shape then.

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Holy crap. The prospect of America becoming a Communist country is more popular than Congress? How the hell is that possible?

JLEM: Virginia is going to be tough. Obama really needs to hang on to Virginia.

Kerry didn't win VA in 2004. Obama doesn't have to win it in 2012 in order to win the election.

Also, I forgot about the census in 2010. The updated electoral votes by state don't change the fact that Obama wins the election if he wins the Kerry states and Ohio. You can play with the results HERE (new window)

If I recall correctly, Bush dipped into the teens at one point and left office with a 22 percent approval rating...something the Conservadinks refuse to acknowledge when it's pointed out to them.

Emrick: If Obama wins all the states Kerry won in 2004 and he wins Ohio then he will win another term. What Kerry State is Gingrich or Romney going to win? Romney might be able to win NH but I don't see Gingrich doing that

One difference from 2004 New Hampshire is pretty solidly pink at this point, but that's offset by New Mexico being pretty solidly baby blue. I think Republicans feel like they have a chance in Wisconsin, and maybe Michigan since the Romney name is still remembered fondly there (Mitt's diatribes against the auto bailout probably wont help him).

Still, your point still stands. It really all hinges on Ohio, and Republicans have much more turf to defend from the 2004 map than Obama does ... Colorado, Florida, Iowa, North Carolina, Nevada. Heck, polling even shows Arizona trending towards Obama, and Obama's campaign believed they could have competed there in 2008 had he ran against anyone other than McCain. In the latest poll taken a few weeks ago Obama leads Romney by 5% points in Arizona.

InTrade calls it Obama-Romney, 52% to 32%