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2011-11-16 03:59:31 AM  

autopsybeverage: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Sure thing. Right after a Christian group tries to promote their beliefs via billboard in the area, followed by an encore with Fred Phelps and his band of morons spending a month picketing for their brand of crazy with anti-Islamic signs.


Uh huh. So you're going after a splinter group of Christians that even 99.9999% of all Christians think suck donkey balls. Seriously?

I find it amusing that atheists think they should be listened to. Women and gays around the world had to fight for rights. They have been legit oppressed, and are earning hard fought freedoms.

And then atheists come swooping in, all butthurt because no one takes your one stupid idea seriously.

The Bible, the Koran, and plenty other religious texts have a moral code embedded within to help people treat fellow man with love and respect. What have atheists written that does the same?

What will allow atheists to write any kind of moral code when their one idea, the assertion of a lack of God, relegates religious texts with moral codes to the fiction section?
 
2011-11-16 04:00:45 AM  

Britney Spear's Speculum: These stupid articles always center around reactions and rebuttals from christian groups. How come whenever a priest molests a child, news outlets don't immediately ask atheist's their opinions?


Oh brother. Here, let me try explaining the painfully obvious to you: The billboards are intended to make people question Christianity, so naturally the article includes the reactions of a few Christians. They're directly related to the story. (And if any Satanists, Poseidon-worshippers, or Santa-loving children publicly express their feelings about these ads, there's likely to be a followup.) OTOH, while a priest molesting a child is a terrible, terrible thing, it has f*ck all to do with atheism. You might as well ask why articles about the Sandusky scandal don't feature the opinions of people who don't like college football. The article makes perfect sense, it's your question that's stupid.
 
2011-11-16 04:02:20 AM  

mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?


Yes.
 
2011-11-16 04:02:57 AM  

autopsybeverage:
It's like Supply Side Jesus always says, "If an investor attempts a hostile takeover of your corporation with one hand, try to unload a bunch of worthless bundled derivatives into his other," Or something like that. I'm sure He has a parable or teaching that is related to that lesson.


Parable of the Talents. It's where Jesus endorses hedge fund performance fees.
 
2011-11-16 04:04:12 AM  

moothemagiccow: If there's anyone I hate more than christian activists, it's atheist activists. The dipshiats deserve each other.

Last atheist dick I met complained christians treated him like he "was against god." I had to inform him about what the A in atheist meant.


How can you be against something you don't believe in?
 
2011-11-16 04:04:58 AM  

Smelly McUgly: You can be an agnostic atheist (or an agnostic theist), correct?


That's correct.

Smelly McUgly: I forget my little four-square belief chart.


Let it stay forgotten.

If you don't believe in gods, you're an atheist...and it doesn't matter whether you lack belief because you think the existence of gods is an impossibility or whether you lack belief merely because you've seen no positive evidence to support the hypothesis.
 
2011-11-16 04:09:56 AM  
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_solstice


/nice headline, it made me :-)
 
2011-11-16 04:10:50 AM  

mainstreet62: autopsybeverage: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Sure thing. Right after a Christian group tries to promote their beliefs via billboard in the area, followed by an encore with Fred Phelps and his band of morons spending a month picketing for their brand of crazy with anti-Islamic signs.

Uh huh. So you're going after a splinter group of Christians that even 99.9999% of all Christians think suck donkey balls. Seriously?

I find it amusing that atheists think they should be listened to. Women and gays around the world had to fight for rights. They have been legit oppressed, and are earning hard fought freedoms.

And then atheists come swooping in, all butthurt because no one takes your one stupid idea seriously.

The Bible, the Koran, and plenty other religious texts have a moral code embedded within to help people treat fellow man with love and respect. What have atheists written that does the same?

What will allow atheists to write any kind of moral code when their one idea, the assertion of a lack of God, relegates religious texts with moral codes to the fiction section?


[maximumtrolling.jpeg]
 
2011-11-16 04:12:02 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Yes.


Act on your belief, then. Put up a billboard in Turkey, let us see the hilarity that ensues.
 
2011-11-16 04:13:29 AM  
Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical ''aethiests'':

lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2011-11-16 04:15:47 AM  
www.wilsonsalmanac.com
 
2011-11-16 04:16:45 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: tinfoil-hat maggie: Ryan2065: Despite the negative attention the billboards receive, American Atheists Communications Director Blair Scott said the signs aren't meant to offend people, but that he understands why it happens.

"When you question someone's long-held beliefs and doctrine they are going to be immediately offended and be on the defensive: it's a known psychological phenomenon," he told Opposing Views.

You're not helping... This makes it sound like your goal is converting people to your faith.

One sign will feature the phrase "2 Million Floridians don't believe in gods,"

Keep signs like this and quit with the attention whoring "Christianity is a myth!" signs.

Drive trough Pulaski, Tennessee on I-65. Next time I go trough there I'm going too take some picks but the billboards are all about the rapture and you could be saved if only you act now.
/I mean really the atheists are obnoxious?
/Oh and my fave a big black billboard with white writing purporting to be a message from God sign by God
/but yea atheist be crazy

That billboard has NOTHING on what you'll read further down in Mississippi and into Oklahoma.


One of the white letter on black background said something like 'I'm so proud of how you treated one another after the storms" That was after the April 27th tornado outbreak and it was signed God.
/I f y'all have worse I feel sorry for you
 
2011-11-16 04:18:25 AM  
KelbelThanks for driving your opinion on me. I don't buy billboards to push my beliefs.

justoneznot: As an atheist, I don't really support things like this. Let people believe what they want to believe, quit being a douche. Yeah I get it, God is a fairy tale and there's a bunch of pedophile priests. There's also millions of every day people like you and me that have religious believes which help give their lives meaning. Let them be.

Smelly McUgly I think that if atheists really want to convince other people that religion is just fairy tale bullshiat, they should step back and let the Dominionist types do their work for them.

-So the best atheist is a silent atheist, that's what I'm getting here...
 
2011-11-16 04:22:17 AM  

Amigajoe: KelbelThanks for driving your opinion on me. I don't buy billboards to push my beliefs.

justoneznot: As an atheist, I don't really support things like this. Let people believe what they want to believe, quit being a douche. Yeah I get it, God is a fairy tale and there's a bunch of pedophile priests. There's also millions of every day people like you and me that have religious believes which help give their lives meaning. Let them be.

Smelly McUgly I think that if atheists really want to convince other people that religion is just fairy tale bullshiat, they should step back and let the Dominionist types do their work for them.

-So the best atheist is a silent atheist, that's what I'm getting here...


Yes, Joe, that is EXACTLY it.
 
2011-11-16 04:22:18 AM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: What's the farking point of existing?


If by "point" you mean some grand plan or design, I don't think there is one.

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for?


Two main reasons:

1) life is interesting. Just because we don't expect any afterlife doesn't mean we don't experience great pleasure from the things we experience while we're living.

2) our genes command us to survive and reproduce.
 
2011-11-16 04:23:13 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: mainstreet62: autopsybeverage: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Sure thing. Right after a Christian group tries to promote their beliefs via billboard in the area, followed by an encore with Fred Phelps and his band of morons spending a month picketing for their brand of crazy with anti-Islamic signs.

Uh huh. So you're going after a splinter group of Christians that even 99.9999% of all Christians think suck donkey balls. Seriously?

I find it amusing that atheists think they should be listened to. Women and gays around the world had to fight for rights. They have been legit oppressed, and are earning hard fought freedoms.

And then atheists come swooping in, all butthurt because no one takes your one stupid idea seriously.

The Bible, the Koran, and plenty other religious texts have a moral code embedded within to help people treat fellow man with love and respect. What have atheists written that does the same?

What will allow atheists to write any kind of moral code when their one idea, the assertion of a lack of God, relegates religious texts with moral codes to the fiction section?

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I'M TROLLING?! Because I asked atheists to describe what alternative written moral code they would have us live by?

By destroying the idea that deities exist, they destroy the Bible which is based on the fact the God exists.

Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

I want to know why I should take an atheist seriously if they aren't selling ideas that promote inner peace and goodwill towards others. Enlighten me!
 
2011-11-16 04:24:32 AM  
The Southern Dandy: Atheist does mean one is against God. It only means one doesn't believe in God. I firmly believe there are no leprechauns. Doesn't mean I'm against leprechauns.

I don't believe in unicorns, or androids.

But if there were unicorns and androids, I would be for them, because that's awesome.

s3.amazonaws.com
 
2011-11-16 04:25:41 AM  

Cucullen: The essence of Christianity transcends the story and the religion. Be nice to poor people, be humble and forgiving. You may not see a lot of Christians like this, but there are hundreds of millions of them out there. Just like there hundreds of millions of Muslims out there who try to act the same. People aren't perfect and the most visible in these religions are inevitably the most proud and hypocritical. If you write them all off because of a few you'll miss knowing a lot of decent people. You can scoff at the stories if you like, but they help a lot of people try to live decent lives and give them hope in difficult situations.


See here's my problem, the most visible tend to be the "leaders" and it appears that most of these "leaders" definitely have a stake in keeping their flocks in perpetual ignorance and fear so as to keep the racket going.

Couple of "not so cool stories, bro"

I grew up having to go to the church that doesn't believe in doctors. Now my family did go to doctors, but Mom took us to this church to keep her family happy. Can you imagine a 6 year old kid every Sunday watching an old man's nose rot off his face because his "faith" was going to do a better job removing that cancer than a doctor? The man was revered in the church until the day he died by the "elders" because he had such strong faith. My dad, years later, had the same cancer this old man had on his nose and in less than an hour doctors had it removed with nothing to show for it but a slight notch in his nose. Many kids were scarred for life by the image of that old man and his rotting face and it didn't have to happen if the "leaders" of the church instead of praising him maybe said "hey, god works in mysterious ways, go get that shiat cut out". That's just one horror story. Let's not talk about the dead young mothers to the hands of midwives, the "crippled to the point of not being able to support their families" men who thought god would heal their broken arms or legs, or the dead kids whose parents thought god would heal their concussions or virii that antibiotics would have taken care of in a day.

Second story, my brother-in-law had a problem with drugs. He went to a christian rehab clinic, which I'll admit did wonders for him. When my sister and he moved back home from out-of-state the first thing he wanted to do was find a nice church to go to. He found one in our hometown, and my parents (who hadn't been to church for years) out of support joined the church with him and my sister. In less than a month, let me repeat, less than a month, my fairly liberal family turned into a recruitment poster for the most hard-core fundamentalist neocon assholes you've ever met in your life. One sunday dinner, my former "pro-gay rights" sister informed everyone that the problem with this country was "those damn queers". She was well on her way to believing the "autism was caused by vaccinations" bullshiat, also. My brother-in-law informed me that he used to love nature and science shows, but he doesn't watch them anymore since he now "knows" that the world is only six thousand years old. Oh did you also know that we don't have a president in the white house, we have a n**ger, mexicans are stealing our jobs, and that every muslim in the world is a crazy terrorist.

Now what in the world could've caused this rapid change in my family? Well, I guess you could say they were gullible and ignorant people, but they didn't used to be. I met the pompous prick they call their "pastor", and all I can say is that he had this smug look on his face that can only come from having so much control over other people. But hey, guess what, they're adding on to their already huge ass church every day so I guess I'd have a smug look on my face too. Pretty soon, it'll be all bmw's and banging chicks (or dudes) in the youth group at the expense of other people's families. Aint religion grand?

//Of course these stories will be downplayed because of their "anecdotal" qualities. Which, as a critical thinker, I'm just fine with.
//Wouldn't have a problem with religion in America if it wasn't so much "fox news on a bun" that it appears to be nowadays.
 
2011-11-16 04:28:39 AM  

Amigajoe: KelbelThanks for driving your opinion on me. I don't buy billboards to push my beliefs.

justoneznot: As an atheist, I don't really support things like this. Let people believe what they want to believe, quit being a douche. Yeah I get it, God is a fairy tale and there's a bunch of pedophile priests. There's also millions of every day people like you and me that have religious believes which help give their lives meaning. Let them be.

Smelly McUgly I think that if atheists really want to convince other people that religion is just fairy tale bullshiat, they should step back and let the Dominionist types do their work for them.

-So the best atheist is a silent atheist, that's what I'm getting here...


I think that if anyone wants to get others interested in his or her beliefs, the trick is to be nice and treat others with the utmost kindness. When someone invariably asks you why you are so kind or wants to know what the philosophy is that you espouse which makes you such a nice person, then you might let that person know what you believe without being all "CONVERT BEFORE YOU BURN IN HELL" or "JOIN US BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE IN SKY WIZARDS."

That's probably more effective than being aggressive about not only what you believe, but what idiots others are who don't think like you.

Now, I say this here, but I'm sure I'll be shiat-talking a conservative in some political thread. It's true, though.
 
2011-11-16 04:29:54 AM  
eraser8: If by "point" you mean some grand plan or design, I don't think there is one.

Perhaps not.

Two main reasons:

1) life is interesting. Just because we don't expect any afterlife doesn't mean we don't experience great pleasure from the things we experience while we're living.

2) our genes command us to survive and reproduce.


Perhaps you do. Most of the world does not.
 
2011-11-16 04:30:46 AM  

mainstreet62: Because I asked atheists to describe what alternative written moral code they would have us live by?


Why would you need a written code?

Human morals don't come from the Bible or from the Koran or from any written book. Morals are not dictated by authority, they're reasoned by human beings.

If you follow the code written out in the Bible, you're not being moral. You're being obedient. By coincidence, some of the code of behaviors set out in the Bible IS moral. But, sometimes, it is manifestly immoral.
 
2011-11-16 04:33:13 AM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical 'aethiests':

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 640x445]


Oh yes, I like that logic. Atheists don't believe in God therefore they don't believe in anything and lead meaningless lives.
 
2011-11-16 04:35:50 AM  
mainstreet62: I'M TROLLING?! Because I asked atheists to describe what alternative written moral code they would have us live by?

By destroying the idea that deities exist, they destroy the Bible which is based on the fact the God exists.

Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

I want to know why I should take an atheist seriously if they aren't selling ideas that promote inner peace and goodwill towards others. Enlighten me!


Not an Atheist, but the general feeling I get from them is that we should all be allowed to do whatever the fark we want, whenever the fark we want, and anyone who questions why they did what they did, or tries to tell them what they did was 'wrong' is simply trying to 'keep them down' by imposing 'made up fairy tales' on them.

Not saying this is how they ALL think, but I KNOW I have meet some who have told me just as much.
 
2011-11-16 04:43:33 AM  

Peacedog: Well, I guess you could say they were gullible and ignorant people, but they didn't used to be.


Yes, they did. They just used to agree with you, so you didn't notice, and now they don't agree with you, so you notice.
 
2011-11-16 04:44:14 AM  

Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical 'aethiests':

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 640x445]

Oh yes, I like that logic. Atheists don't believe in God therefore they don't believe in anything and lead meaningless lives.


You clearly missed the point, but that's ok. Could you please tell me what Aethiests do believe in? Not trolling, I'm very curious to know. Would they happen to be the same virtues that the deities and doctrines of most of the world's theological beliefs represent? I guess to restructure my point, I could say that I would hope that aethiests still believe that being morally benevolent is beneficial for all. I'd like to think that we are all connected; we are all one spirit, all one consciousness.

/Did a lot of LSD, what can I say?
 
2011-11-16 04:44:57 AM  

mainstreet62: Sarah Palin's Conscience: mainstreet62: autopsybeverage: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Sure thing. Right after a Christian group tries to promote their beliefs via billboard in the area, followed by an encore with Fred Phelps and his band of morons spending a month picketing for their brand of crazy with anti-Islamic signs.

Uh huh. So you're going after a splinter group of Christians that even 99.9999% of all Christians think suck donkey balls. Seriously?

I find it amusing that atheists think they should be listened to. Women and gays around the world had to fight for rights. They have been legit oppressed, and are earning hard fought freedoms.

And then atheists come swooping in, all butthurt because no one takes your one stupid idea seriously.

The Bible, the Koran, and plenty other religious texts have a moral code embedded within to help people treat fellow man with love and respect. What have atheists written that does the same?

What will allow atheists to write any kind of moral code when their one idea, the assertion of a lack of God, relegates religious texts with moral codes to the fiction section?

[maximumtrolling.jpeg]

I'M TROLLING?! Because I asked atheists to describe what alternative written moral code they would have us live by?

By destroying the idea that deities exist, they destroy the Bible which is based on the fact the God exists.

Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

I want to know why I should take an atheist seriously if they aren't selling ideas that promote inner peace and goodwill towards others. Enlighten me!


Fine, I'll bite.

Religion is a piss poor place to try and establish a moral code for humanity.

The Bible promotes bigotry, hatred, murder, slavery, and fear, just to name a few. I cannot, in good faith, raise my daughter on this book, because it promotes all of the above. It will tell her that she is only as good as a man she marries, and can never speak against a male or rise above him.

She will learn from this book that she is unclean and cannot be touched if she has her period, or bears a child.

She will learn that a supposed loving God is a vengeful, spiteful, hateful thing that will completely fark up your shiat just to prove a point to Satan.

This forgiving God killed his people because he disapproved of their actions, when he had the power to change them to good people.

He practices favoritism, choosing one people over another simply because they kissed more ass.

The Good Book also promotes that parents treat their children badly. Remember how Noah banished his son for laughing at his stupid, drunk, naked ass? Remember how God cursed his seed?

Or how about Lot's daughters, who got Lot drunk and then raped him and bore his children? I certainly don't want my daughter to preserve my SO's seed should something happen to me.

Or the big J himself, who beat the shiat out of money changers? I don't promote violence in my house. How can I ban her fighting others when Jesus did so himself?

Let's not even crack into other religions, who all have their shortcomings, which all preach bigotry and hatred.

I will NOT teach my daughter to act good ONLY because an invisible being is watching her every move, judging her every action, and that she will receive eternal damnation if she goes against this loving god's hypocritical commandments.

Instead, I will teach her the basics of human kindness, respect, and dignity. I will teach her to not be a dick to others. I will teach her that her actions are her worth and a direct reflection of her character.

I will raise her the way she was born: as an atheist and as a good human being.
 
2011-11-16 04:47:04 AM  

Divinegrace: Not an Atheist, but the general feeling I get from them is that we should all be allowed to do whatever the fark we want, whenever the fark we want, and anyone who questions why they did what they did, or tries to tell them what they did was 'wrong' is simply trying to 'keep them down' by imposing 'made up fairy tales' on them.


Well, telling someone he shouldn't be able to work on the Sabbath because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep him down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on him.

Telling someone she shouldn't be allowed to marry the woman she loves because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep her down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on her.

Telling someone that he can't have bacon on his burger because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep him down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on him.
 
2011-11-16 04:47:06 AM  

eraser8: Morals are not dictated by authority, they're reasoned by human beings.


What makes you think those things are mutually exclusive? Did you sit around helping to reason out your local, state, or Federal laws? Laws are codified morality enforced through the police power of the State. They are absolutely dictated by authority, as well as reasoned by human beings. Your position appears to be ill-thought.
 
2011-11-16 04:48:29 AM  
The only billboards related to religion that I have ever seen were pro religion. I even saw one pushing for the teaching of creationism in schools on the Mass Pike (hopefully a hostile audience). So I would find atheist billboards a refreshing change.
 
2011-11-16 04:50:20 AM  

eraser8: Divinegrace: Not an Atheist, but the general feeling I get from them is that we should all be allowed to do whatever the fark we want, whenever the fark we want, and anyone who questions why they did what they did, or tries to tell them what they did was 'wrong' is simply trying to 'keep them down' by imposing 'made up fairy tales' on them.

Well, telling someone he shouldn't be able to work on the Sabbath because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep him down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on him.

Telling someone she shouldn't be allowed to marry the woman she loves because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep her down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on her.

Telling someone that he can't have bacon on his burger because it is forbidden by a book IS simply trying to "keep him down" by imposing "made up fairy tales" on him.


Sarah Palin's Conscience: mainstreet62: Sarah Palin's Conscience: mainstreet62: autopsybeverage: mainstreet62: I will issue a challenge to atheists right here, right now.

Go to a Muslim country, and put up you billboards full of atheist bullshiat. Let's see what happens.

Just remember that you farksticks would be burned at the stake in basically any other country than the US.

You idiots feel emboldened to shout down religion everywhere? Uh, HELLO McFLY, huge conflicts have started over religion, do you REALLY think telling the warring sides that their gods don't exist is the right path?

Sure thing. Right after a Christian group tries to promote their beliefs via billboard in the area, followed by an encore with Fred Phelps and his band of morons spending a month picketing for their brand of crazy with anti-Islamic signs.

Uh huh. So you're going after a splinter group of Christians that even 99.9999% of all Christians think suck donkey balls. Seriously?

I find it amusing that atheists think they should be listened to. Women and gays around the world had to fight for rights. They have been legit oppressed, and are earning hard fought freedoms.

And then atheists come swooping in, all butthurt because no one takes your one stupid idea seriously.

The Bible, the Koran, and plenty other religious texts have a moral code embedded within to help people treat fellow man with love and respect. What have atheists written that does the same?

What will allow atheists to write any kind of moral code when their one idea, the assertion of a lack of God, relegates religious texts with moral codes to the fiction section?

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I'M TROLLING?! Because I asked atheists to describe what alternative written moral code they would have us live by?

By destroying the idea that deities exist, they destroy the Bible which is based on the fact the God exists.

Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

I want to know why I should take an atheist seriously if they aren't selling ideas that promote inner peace and goodwill towards others. Enlighten me!

Fine, I'll bite.

Religion is a piss poor place to try and establish a moral code for humanity.

The Bible promotes bigotry, hatred, murder, slavery, and fear, just to name a few. I cannot, in good faith, raise my daughter on this book, because it promotes all of the above. It will tell her that she is only as good as a man she marries, and can never speak against a male or rise above him.

She will learn from this book that she is unclean and cannot be touched if she has her period, or bears a child.

She will learn that a supposed loving God is a vengeful, spiteful, hateful thing that will completely fark up your shiat just to prove a point to Satan.

This forgiving God killed his people because he disapproved of their actions, when he had the power to change them to good people.

He practices favoritism, choosing one people over another simply because they kissed more ass.

The Good Book also promotes that parents treat their children badly. Remember how Noah banished his son for laughing at his stupid, drunk, naked ass? Remember how God cursed his seed?

Or how about Lot's daughters, who got Lot drunk and then raped him and bore his children? I certainly don't want my daughter to preserve my SO's seed should something happen to me.

Or the big J himself, who beat the shiat out of money changers? I don't promote violence in my house. How can I ban her fighting others when Jesus did so himself?

Let's not even crack into other religions, who all have their shortcomings, which all preach bigotry and hatred.

I will NOT teach my daughter to act good ONLY because an invisible being is watching her every move, judging her every action, and that she will receive eternal damnation if she goes against this loving god's hypocritical commandments.

Instead, I will teach her the basics of human kindness, respect, and dignity. I will teach her to not be a dick to others. I will teach ...


This is as simplified as the guy who thinks that atheists cannot possibly have moral codes.
 
2011-11-16 04:53:59 AM  
I still think "Mythmas" may have been better.
 
2011-11-16 04:54:33 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: This forgiving God killed his people because he disapproved of their actions, when he had the power to change them to good people.


It's worse than that. The Christian god, on more than one occasion, used his power to encourage people to do things specifically so he could disapprove of them and punish them.
 
2011-11-16 04:55:22 AM  
Smelly McUgly"This is as simplified as the guy who thinks that atheists cannot possibly have moral codes."

Out of all that I pointed out, you single out my summarization and then call my reasoning simple?
 
2011-11-16 04:55:40 AM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical 'aethiests':

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Oh yes, I like that logic. Atheists don't believe in God therefore they don't believe in anything and lead meaningless lives.

You clearly missed the point, but that's ok. Could you please tell me what Aethiests do believe in? Not trolling, I'm very curious to know. Would they happen to be the same virtues that the deities and doctrines of most of the world's theological beliefs represent? I guess to restructure my point, I could say that I would hope that aethiests still believe that being morally benevolent is beneficial for all. I'd like to think that we are all connected; we are all one spirit, all one consciousness.

/Did a lot of LSD, what can I say?


No, you missed the point. Atheism says only one thing about the atheist. Any other beliefs, ethics or philosophies are completely independent of not believing in God. And believing in God isn't necessary for a person to have meaning, morals or something to live for. Therefore your question is meaningless, atheism doesn't work that way.
 
2011-11-16 04:55:43 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: good human being.


Sorry, by what metric? Don't play the same game the religious try to play. There's no such thing as a "good human being", just as there's no such thing as a "bad human being". There are only human beings, and things they do which are subjectively "good" or "bad" depending upon whose point of view you're looking at things from. I.E. slavery is pretty bad from the point of view of the slave, and pretty good from the point of view of the master. But there is no objective measure of what is absolutely "good" or "bad", and trying to pretend that there is reveals your unconscious religious bias.
 
2011-11-16 04:56:35 AM  
Does American Atheists put up similar billboards during Ramadan? Do they put up billboards claiming the prophet Muhammad is a myth? Do they ever put up billboards during Rosh Hashana? The target of American Atheists seems to be curiously selective.
 
2011-11-16 04:58:01 AM  

untaken_name: Sarah Palin's Conscience: good human being.

Sorry, by what metric? Don't play the same game the religious try to play. There's no such thing as a "good human being", just as there's no such thing as a "bad human being". There are only human beings, and things they do which are subjectively "good" or "bad" depending upon whose point of view you're looking at things from. I.E. slavery is pretty bad from the point of view of the slave, and pretty good from the point of view of the master. But there is no objective measure of what is absolutely "good" or "bad", and trying to pretend that there is reveals your unconscious religious bias.


I cannot put it better than George Carlin did. "Don't be a dick."

I find this to be a pretty good measure of a "good" human being.
 
2011-11-16 04:59:18 AM  

untaken_name: What makes you think those things are mutually exclusive?


The nature of morality.

untaken_name: Laws are codified morality enforced through the police power of the State.


So, the laws that permitted slavery were moral? The laws that permitted segregation were moral? The laws that permit abortion or moral?

You are confusing authority and obedience with morality. As I wrote earlier, sometimes, coincidentally, commands from authority will also be moral. But, in other instances, they will be manifestly immoral.
 
2011-11-16 05:02:29 AM  

david_gaithersburg: Does American Atheists put up similar billboards during Ramadan? Do they put up billboards claiming the prophet Muhammad is a myth? Do they ever put up billboards during Rosh Hashana? The target of American Atheists seems to be curiously selective.


I wasn't aware that these were government holidays, with huge marketed celebrations.

I wasn't aware that these religions push their moral code into every day life in order to pleas their god/s.

I was completely unaware that they were able to put their god/s into laws and legislation. That they had a lot of sway in American politics, that they were a protected class.

No, I'm equal opportunity disbelieved, but I generally target the diety whose followers restrict my booze buying until after Sunday service.
 
2011-11-16 05:03:15 AM  

Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical 'aethiests':

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 640x445]

Oh yes, I like that logic. Atheists don't believe in God therefore they don't believe in anything and lead meaningless lives.

You clearly missed the point, but that's ok. Could you please tell me what Aethiests do believe in? Not trolling, I'm very curious to know. Would they happen to be the same virtues that the deities and doctrines of most of the world's theological beliefs represent? I guess to restructure my point, I could say that I would hope that aethiests still believe that being morally benevolent is beneficial for all. I'd like to think that we are all connected; we are all one spirit, all one consciousness.

/Did a lot of LSD, what can I say?

No, you missed the point. Atheism says only one thing about the atheist. Any other beliefs, ethics or philosophies are completely independent of not believing in God. And believing in God isn't necessary for a person to have meaning, morals or something to live for. Therefore your question is meaningless, atheism doesn't work that way.


Preach on, hypocrates. Preach on. Convert us!
 
2011-11-16 05:03:25 AM  
mainstreet62: Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

Divinegrace: Not an Atheist, but the general feeling I get from them is that we should all be allowed to do whatever the fark we want, whenever the fark we want, and anyone who questions why they did what they did, or tries to tell them what they did was 'wrong' is simply trying to 'keep them down' by imposing 'made up fairy tales' on them.

I'm an atheist, and I'm flabbergasted.

files.sharenator.com

Seriously guys? Seriously?

Morality doesn't have to be dipped in religion, and when you get right down to it, morality is basically a personal thing anyway. Everyone chooses what they consider moral or not and what they're going to do or not do.

Sometimes a person's own moral compass runs afoul of what society as a whole considers moral (Jeffrey Dahmer for example). Just because I'm not religious doesn't mean I'm going to run out and eat people.

For me, there's only one big moral rule, and that's to not cause unnecessary harm (physical or emotional) to other people. (Unnecessary in that if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, I will have no qualms about shooting them).
 
2011-11-16 05:03:40 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: Smelly McUgly"This is as simplified as the guy who thinks that atheists cannot possibly have moral codes."

Out of all that I pointed out, you single out my summarization and then call my reasoning simple?


Everything you pointed out was simplified and petty. "All religions are bad and say evil stuff" is silly.

If we want to have a discussion about something like "the Ancient Hebrews and Paul say teh gheys iz bad," we have to talk about a) the ancient Hebrews trying to establish a society and thus encouraging the type of sex that makes babies and b) Paul probably being gay. We don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. In fact, there are more practicing Christians than you know that understand that the ancient Hebrews were trying to establish a culture and society and that numerous churches have inserted their own junk into the NT.

Your assertion that because the Hebrews were trying to utilize their religion in part to establish a code of law and a set of societal rules that everyone could play by so that they could stop being nomads, this makes any religion that utilizes the Torah EEEEVUL is so simplified that it defies belief.

I hope that you are able to have a frank talk with your daughter about the history behind the Bible (or any other holy book) if she asks questions about it. Let her know that we are lucky to have advanced as a society and we don't have to look at Leviticus so that you can determine her bride price. Telling her "HURR DURR EVIL BOOK SKY WIZARD" is pretty short-sighted. At the very least, she will have an interesting lesson in history, literature, and human culture.
 
2011-11-16 05:03:41 AM  
Seems like a lot of effort/money to be a jerk.

/ don't like religious billboards of any kind
// god doesn't need advertising
 
2011-11-16 05:04:52 AM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do?


So they'll stop bothering us about it and stop using it as a criteria to judge others as unworthy or less human.

It's really that simple. It's the verbal and emotional abuse they use to bring others into their fold. The less of them there are, the less acceptable it becomes in our society.
 
2011-11-16 05:06:30 AM  

lordargent: mainstreet62: Isn't it morally reprehensible to kill a moral code that allows goodwill towards men and not replace it? Does it exist? What are a large majority of US laws based on?

Divinegrace: Not an Atheist, but the general feeling I get from them is that we should all be allowed to do whatever the fark we want, whenever the fark we want, and anyone who questions why they did what they did, or tries to tell them what they did was 'wrong' is simply trying to 'keep them down' by imposing 'made up fairy tales' on them.

I'm an atheist, and I'm flabbergasted.

[files.sharenator.com image 400x297]

Seriously guys? Seriously?

Morality doesn't have to be dipped in religion, and when you get right down to it, morality is basically a personal thing anyway. Everyone chooses what they consider moral or not and what they're going to do or not do.

Sometimes a person's own moral compass runs afoul of what society as a whole considers moral (Jeffrey Dahmer for example). Just because I'm not religious doesn't mean I'm going to run out and eat people.

For me, there's only one big moral rule, and that's to not cause unnecessary harm (physical or emotional) to other people. (Unnecessary in that if someone breaks into my house in the middle of the night, I will have no qualms about shooting them).


Amen. Err, uh...Yes!
 
2011-11-16 05:08:26 AM  

Sarah Palin's Conscience: I cannot put it better than George Carlin did. "Don't be a dick."

I find this to be a pretty good measure of a "good" human being.


Yes, but it's subjective. I'm not saying there is no good or bad, I am saying that good and bad are subjective. Like pretty or art. There will be things most people agree on, and things they disagree heavily on. But there is no objective good or evil or right or wrong. It doesn't exist. It's fantasy.
 
2011-11-16 05:09:08 AM  

david_gaithersburg: The target of American Atheists seems to be curiously selective.


If my flat is regularly infested with cockroaches, but once or twice a year I see an ant or a spider, I'm still going to invest in roach spray and not worry so much about the ants and spiders.
 
2011-11-16 05:10:37 AM  

Smelly McUgly: Sarah Palin's Conscience: Smelly McUgly"This is as simplified as the guy who thinks that atheists cannot possibly have moral codes."

Out of all that I pointed out, you single out my summarization and then call my reasoning simple?

Everything you pointed out was simplified and petty. "All religions are bad and say evil stuff" is silly.

If we want to have a discussion about something like "the Ancient Hebrews and Paul say teh gheys iz bad," we have to talk about a) the ancient Hebrews trying to establish a society and thus encouraging the type of sex that makes babies and b) Paul probably being gay. We don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. In fact, there are more practicing Christians than you know that understand that the ancient Hebrews were trying to establish a culture and society and that numerous churches have inserted their own junk into the NT.

Your assertion that because the Hebrews were trying to utilize their religion in part to establish a code of law and a set of societal rules that everyone could play by so that they could stop being nomads, this makes any religion that utilizes the Torah EEEEVUL is so simplified that it defies belief.

I hope that you are able to have a frank talk with your daughter about the history behind the Bible (or any other holy book) if she asks questions about it. Let her know that we are lucky to have advanced as a society and we don't have to look at Leviticus so that you can determine her bride price. Telling her "HURR DURR EVIL BOOK SKY WIZARD" is pretty short-sighted. At the very least, she will have an interesting lesson in history, literature, and human culture.


All of that is fine for ancient civilization. Please, tell me how we can use these in our modern society. The way I see it, we have very little to no use for these silly stories. They are nothing more than a tool use by the ignorant to stop progress.

Now, about the over-simplification you've pegged me for...
 
2011-11-16 05:12:22 AM  

The Ghost of Tom Ace: Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Baryogenesis: The Ghost of Tom Ace: Good. I'm so glad to see that the majority of people believe in nothing. I mean, according to revelations, armageddon, etc., it is during the times when nobody believes in God that God will destroy everything and I, for one, welcome that.

I can't stand to live in a world where nobody believes in anything. What's the farking point of existing? Seriously, can one of you so-called aethiests answer that for me? Why continue to survive if there's nothing to survive for? Religion aside, I happen to believe in life beyond this one and reaching a higher existence. And that is considering everything from the basic principles of physics and energy principles all the way to string theory and multidimensional mathematics.

/Yes, I agree religion as an organization destroys the spirituality behind one's personal theology.
//But if you don't believe in anything, why the fark must you want everyone else to believe the way you do? It's a huge contradiction. True aethiests don't bother imposing their beliefs on others. Here's one image that always sums up these hypocritical 'aethiests':

[lh3.googleusercontent.com image 640x445]

Oh yes, I like that logic. Atheists don't believe in God therefore they don't believe in anything and lead meaningless lives.

You clearly missed the point, but that's ok. Could you please tell me what Aethiests do believe in? Not trolling, I'm very curious to know. Would they happen to be the same virtues that the deities and doctrines of most of the world's theological beliefs represent? I guess to restructure my point, I could say that I would hope that aethiests still believe that being morally benevolent is beneficial for all. I'd like to think that we are all connected; we are all one spirit, all one consciousness.

/Did a lot of LSD, what can I say?

No, you missed the point. Atheism says only one thing about the atheist. Any other beliefs, ethics or philosophies are completely independent of not believing in God. And believing in God isn't necessary for a person to have meaning, morals or something to live for. Therefore your question is meaningless, atheism doesn't work that way.

Preach on, hypocrates. Preach on. Convert us!


What in the blue fark are you talking about?

There is no atheist doctrine or shared philosophy other than not believing in God. Asking what atheists believe in is a non starter. I can tell you my views on ethics, but I can't speak for atheists overall.
 
2011-11-16 05:12:58 AM  
Perhaps a visit from Sanity Claus might help christians. It would definitely help the ones in georgia.
 
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