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2011-11-15 03:54:32 PM
Or perhaps they're drinking them so they can die early and not look at the fat assed men who think "I'm hawt".
 
m3h
2011-11-15 04:02:20 PM
Perhaps the problem is the massive pile of cocaine in front of the soft drinks?
 
2011-11-15 05:15:22 PM
On the other hand, two sugary hard drinks will get them naked faster.
 
2011-11-15 05:18:12 PM
Newsflash: Life kills
 
2011-11-15 05:18:48 PM
Interestingly, it doesn't seem to affect men. Only women. So women, lay off the soda. Guys, drink it up.
 
2011-11-15 05:23:38 PM
what's a fizzy drink?
 
2011-11-15 05:34:35 PM
tenton: Interestingly, it doesn't seem to affect men. Only women. So women, lay off the soda. Guys, drink it up.

also interestingly, beer leads to bigger breasts in both men and women. So guys, drink soda. Womens, drink beer.
 
2011-11-15 05:35:46 PM
You can pry my Coke Zero from my cold, lifeless hands.
 
2011-11-15 05:38:02 PM
mralphabet: what's a fizzy drink?

mmmm, beer
 
2011-11-15 05:42:39 PM
It's rare that I'm not already on my third Mountain Dew before lunch...
 
2011-11-15 05:53:18 PM
this is why i drink TaB. no sugar. only thing it causes is colon cancer.
 
2011-11-15 05:55:39 PM
Ponzholio: It's rare that I'm not already on my third Mountain Dew before lunch...

You sound fat
 
2011-11-15 05:59:20 PM
Ned Stark: this is why i drink TaB. no sugar. only thing it causes is colon cancer.

You sound cancerous.
 
2011-11-15 05:59:44 PM
Chubby thread?

/aw shucks
 
2011-11-15 06:02:39 PM
baronvonzipper: Ponzholio: It's rare that I'm not already on my third Mountain Dew before lunch...

You sound fat


I think it's just a race now to see if I get a heart attack or diabetes first...
 
2011-11-15 06:03:13 PM
"Sugary drinks"? LOL!

There is no "sugar" in (most) soda pop. It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

Wondering why Americans are getting SO FAT and can't lose the weight no matter how much they exercise? Check out this video produced by the University of California San Francisco: Sugar: the Bitter Truth (new window)

/Long but worth it
 
2011-11-15 06:11:00 PM
I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.
 
2011-11-15 06:14:01 PM
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/Where a fatty might sit
 
2011-11-15 06:14:29 PM
ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.


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When you pry it from her cold, dead, chubby fingers.

/Wash it down with a "fizzy"
 
2011-11-15 06:21:09 PM
ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.


(my gf is much more overweight than I am, but that's ok)
 
2011-11-15 06:21:58 PM
Amos Quito:

oh dear god, make it stop. MAKE IT STOP.
 
2011-11-15 06:34:39 PM
ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.


Only 30 lbs of extra fat while in your early 30s? Good job!
 
2011-11-15 06:36:50 PM
reillan: tenton: Interestingly, it doesn't seem to affect men. Only women. So women, lay off the soda. Guys, drink it up.

also interestingly, beer leads to bigger breasts in both men and women. So guys, drink soda. Womens, drink beer.


LIAR!!

/I should have much larger boobs by now
//Cries into another beer
 
2011-11-15 06:52:28 PM
Are we sure it's not the tubs of margarine that they're eating?
 
2011-11-15 06:58:09 PM
tenton: Interestingly, it doesn't seem to affect men. Only women. So women, lay off the soda. Guys, drink it up.

Still makes them fat. I see so many fat people at work with stacks of cola bottles/cans at their desk.
 
2011-11-15 07:00:38 PM
Amos Quito: It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

So stop eating fruits. They're poison.
 
2011-11-15 07:04:21 PM
Loadmaster: Amos Quito: It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

So stop eating fruits. They're poison.



Watch the video.

HFCS has all the health benefits of alcohol - minus the buzz.
 
2011-11-15 07:06:59 PM
Loadmaster: Amos Quito: It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

So stop eating fruits. They're poison.


STOP CHALLENGING MY PSEUDOSCIENCE!
 
2011-11-15 07:10:03 PM
Amos Quito: Loadmaster: Amos Quito: It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

So stop eating fruits. They're poison.

Watch the video.

HFCS Fructose has all the health benefits of alcohol - minus the buzz.


FTFY. Did you watch the video?
 
2011-11-15 07:10:12 PM
Amos Quito: "Sugary drinks"? LOL!

There is no "sugar" in (most) soda pop. It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

Wondering why Americans are getting SO FAT and can't lose the weight no matter how much they exercise? Check out this video produced by the University of California San Francisco: Sugar: the Bitter Truth (new window)

/Long but worth it


My CSB.....

For virtually my entire life; I drank soda exclusively. I really mean that. From the age of, five, until just recently, it was just Pepsi. Rarely, I had 'Kool-Aid'. I hated milk and juice and anything that wasn't Pepsi. When I out of college, working full-time, I would go through 5-6 cans of Pepsi each day. That's like...750 calories.

About six months ago, I learned I'd be relocating to Ireland. I only had a vague idea of what life would be like in other countries and someone told me that Ireland only had 'Coke' products and that they were 'like 4-5 times more expensive!!!' As it turns out, that's an exaggeration, but there is a lot of truth to it. Still, it prompted me to quit cold turkey as soon as I left the plane.

I went through hellish withdrawal symptoms (plus jetlag - it was pretty horrible). After about two full, long, horrible weeks, I found I could function with Pepsi. Now I drink water.

I lost *no weight*. Kind of a bummer :(
 
2011-11-15 07:15:05 PM
Amos Quito: There is no "sugar" in (most) soda pop. It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

The HFCS used in carbonated drinks is typically 55% fructose and 42% glucose. The refined cane sugar used in carbonated drinks is almost pure sucrose, which during digestion breaks down into 50% fructose and 50% glucose.

The problem with HFCS is that it is cheap, so food producers put it into everything. Eventually we adapt to liking things that are sweeter, so a hidden source of calories and simple sugars enter our diet.

I haven't seen anything that suggests that the hydrolysis of sucrose in our dietary tracts slows the spike in blood sugar. Once it breaks down, it should be just as bad as HFCS.
 
2011-11-15 07:18:44 PM
Dinjiin: I haven't seen anything that suggests that the hydrolysis of sucrose in our dietary tracts slows the spike in blood sugar. Once it breaks down, it should be just as bad as HFCS.

Now you've done it. I give it five minutes before someone links the single study that found HFCS causes obesity in mice compared to sucrose while ignoring the multiple studies that show no such difference.
 
2011-11-15 07:30:38 PM
Loadmaster: Amos Quito: It's friggin' high fructose corn syrup, and it's farking poison.

So stop eating fruits. They're poison.


That'd be a clever comeback if one were to assume fruits were nothing but sugar. They're actually a complex collection of water, vitamins, chemicals, sugar, and plant fiber in various proportions.

The deal with modern civilization is that we refine the shiate out of everything till we have foods that are mostly concentrated sugar that are rapidly absorbed by the body. An apple or a plum at the very least has fiber which steadies the absorption of sugar into your bloodstream so that your pancreas doesn't go into overdrive. Drinking a glass of apple juice is not the same thing as eating an apple.

Add to that, if you're some sedentary lardass who can't be bothered to burn some of that extra energy off, then the hit on your blood sugar is even higher.
 
2011-11-15 07:33:32 PM
jingks: Now you've done it.

I know. And right on the carpet again. I really should be ashamed.


jingks: I give it five minutes before someone links the single study that found HFCS causes obesity in mice compared to sucrose while ignoring the multiple studies that show no such difference.

Exactly. Unless they have shown that the body spends a measurable amount of extra energy or time converting sucrose into its simple components, I'll call BS and assume that they failed to account for some other variable that their study exhibited but the others did not.

Remove government subsidies for corn and corn processing. Watch the price of HFCS go up and its use go down. If no other caloric sweetener is substituted in equal quantities, you should see a reduction in health problems. It is that farking simple.
 
2011-11-15 07:35:39 PM
Amos Quito: ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 315x346]

When you pry it from her cold, dead, chubby fingers.

/Wash it down with a "fizzy"


I don't know why, but I find the teeny tiny blurry spot over her eyes really funny.
 
2011-11-15 07:48:24 PM
umad: Amos Quito: ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.

[4.bp.blogspot.com image 315x346]

When you pry it from her cold, dead, chubby fingers.

/Wash it down with a "fizzy"

I don't know why, but I find the teeny tiny blurry spot over her eyes really funny.


It's like putting a band-aid on the Titanic. You just want to roll your eyes and go 'Oh, you.'
 
2011-11-15 09:52:56 PM
yeah, as if anyone who knew that person wouldn't automatically know who it was?

well, i suppose it's possible.. maybe some guy who goes for really fat chicks..
 
2011-11-15 11:23:54 PM
Dinjiin: I haven't seen anything that suggests that the hydrolysis of sucrose in our dietary tracts slows the spike in blood sugar. Once it breaks down, it should be just as bad as HFCS.

The difference is sugar tends to be something people add to drinks themselves, like coffee or tea. Coffee or tea with as much sugar in it as a soft drink would be undrinkable.
 
2011-11-16 04:04:19 AM
gibbon1: Coffee or tea with as much sugar in it as a soft drink would be undrinkable.

You've never been to Denny's or IHOP at 1AM with my friends. We're bouncing off of walls by 3AM from all of the sugar we add to the burnt tar they pass off as coffee.
 
2011-11-16 07:02:22 AM
WHY do fat biatches wanna be fat btches? I've NEVER understood this phenomenon!
 
2011-11-16 08:55:18 AM
ekdikeo4: I drink 2 to 3 liters of mt dew a day, and I'm only about 30 lbs over weight. I also sit on my ass where my jobs are computer programming, telephone service, and dealing cards.

Put down the cake, fatties.


IM 30 LBS OVERWEIGHT TOO. BUT MY BODY FAT IS 18% NORMAL.

INSTEAD OF DEW U MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER
JIMMY DEAN
ITS GOOD shiat
AND RICH IN SATURATED FAT
SOMETHING U DONT GET FROM SODA
 
2011-11-16 01:31:13 PM
Two cans of Coke (160 Calories each if made with sugar, 140 Calories each if made with corn syrup)
280-320 Calories.

Let's say you eat just enough Calories and pack on weight solely because of two cans of soda pop over this metabolic minimum needed to maintain your weight given your lifestyle and personal particulars. I'll use 360 Calories because it's divisible by 9, the number of kilo calories in a standard gram of fat:

1 day: 10 grams of fat, one third of an ounce roughly
1 week: 70 grams, a largish personal serving of potato chips
One year: 3652.5 grams of fat (3.652 kilograms at 2.2 pounds per kilogram, 8 pounds)
10 years: 36,525 g of fat (36.5 kg, 80 pounds, the weight of a child or anorexic woman)
20 years: 73,000 g or 73 kg, 161 pounds, the weight of a thin man or over-weight woman)
30 years: 109,000 g or 109 kg, 240 pounds, the weight of Homer Simpson
40 years: 146,000 g or 146 kg, 329 pounds, more than the weight of Homer Simpson when he fattened up to claim disability, by not even close to a local record in most US or Canadian towns and villages.

In short, you might well be 30 pounds over weight drinking a bit too much Mountain Dew every day and yes, that's not too bad if you start gaining weight slowly at 10 or so, but you should try to do better if you want a healthy and long old age.

It takes surprisingly little excess to become over-weight or obese. You really have to work at staying your ideal weight, let alone at zero body fat or in athletic condition. This is why obesity is becoming a global problem: normal people are prone to becoming obese with a reduction in exercise or increase in food intake, even at very modest levels of imbalance. You really have to work to fight human nature, aka evolution, because it has designed your body to live fast and die young because that was good enough for your ancestors over the last few billion years.

Over the next few centuries, if the species survives, it may become necessary for successful breeders to live longer--because the educations and resources to reproduce will become more time-intensive and scarce. According to an American sociologist I read about many years ago, the average age of maturity, when a young adult has all of the duties and privileges of adulthood, is about 30, which is longer than the life expectancy mere hundreds of generations ago. We may see it rise to 60 or 90 some day, in which case we'll probably be living to SF ages of 200 or 300 years--potentially immortal if we are not killed by accidents or suicide or something very close to being both.

After all, even if we conquer all of the diseases and make the world much safer than we can imagine today, there will still be opportunities to die accidentally or while taking stupid and remote risks such as sky-diving from the limits of space, making the long trek to orbit Pluto, or falling into a volcano while dancing on the rim.

Personally I am about twenty to thirty pounds over the weight I'd like to be and which would probably be healthiest for me. My weight plateaus for a while and then bounces in a short range for a while. It's been doing this since I was a twig of a freshman of 125 pounds--I was still skinny at 150 pounds, but weighed more than my sister-in-law, which caused her immense glee and satisfaction.
 
2011-11-16 01:41:04 PM
To give you an idea of how fortunate we all are in evolutionary and economic terms, in some of the countries hardest hit by HIV, there are children as young as four who are responsible for looking after their dying grandmother or other sole "care-giver". Many individuals become responsible for making the family living while still children.

Imagine a four year old having to provide all of the health care and make all of the money for themselves and another (or several) nearly helpless individuals. There are dogs that are better equipped to make their way in the world. That kid in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory was Ritchie Rich compared to some children.

Many of us do not have the responsibilities of a true adult and never will. We are not responsible for any life other than our own and we are equipped with social safety nets that will provide for us even if we lapse into a forty year coma.

Our genes prepare us for a world in which you can be a grandmother at 25. We have to fight nature as well as our own preferences and proclivities if we are to avoid the diseases of affluence. Still, we are immensely lucky, and if nothing else, we are evolving to deal with the diseases of affluence--fat people are often remarkably strong, active and healthy. Our descendants will be able to lug around even greater burdens even if we slack off and don't provide them with slim healthy bodies and the mental resources to deal with temptation.

And you know what Oscar Wilde said: "The only way to get rid of temptation is to yield to it... I can resist everything but temptation."

Fortunately, we can human engineer ourselves to even resist some temptations if we stop and think ,and put the temptations far enough out of reach for laziness to become our ally.
 
2011-11-16 01:43:45 PM
Moral: If your worst enemy is a slice of cheesecake, you should consider yourself very lucky and fortunate.
 
2011-11-16 01:49:00 PM
One of the soluble fibers that you are supposed to eat more of is called "pectin". It is the gelling agent in jams and jellies. This is why little old ladies who survive on white bread, cookies, jam, milk and tea live forever. They get plenty of fiber from the small amount of real fruit in jams, jellies, the odd tin of pears, etc.

You're probably better off eating like a little old lady than like a junk food-fed geek. The fruit alone can be your salvation.
 
2011-11-16 08:12:06 PM
brantgoose: Two cans of Coke (160 Calories each if made with sugar, 140 Calories each if made with corn syrup)
280-320 Calories.

Let's say you eat just enough Calories and pack on weight solely because of two cans of soda pop over this metabolic minimum needed to maintain your weight given your lifestyle and personal particulars. I'll use 360 Calories because it's divisible by 9, the number of kilo calories in a standard gram of fat:

1 day: 10 grams of fat, one third of an ounce roughly
1 week: 70 grams, a largish personal serving of potato chips
One year: 3652.5 grams of fat (3.652 kilograms at 2.2 pounds per kilogram, 8 pounds)
10 years: 36,525 g of fat (36.5 kg, 80 pounds, the weight of a child or anorexic woman)
20 years: 73,000 g or 73 kg, 161 pounds, the weight of a thin man or over-weight woman)
30 years: 109,000 g or 109 kg, 240 pounds, the weight of Homer Simpson
40 years: 146,000 g or 146 kg, 329 pounds, more than the weight of Homer Simpson when he fattened up to claim disability, by not even close to a local record in most US or Canadian towns and villages.

In short, you might well be 30 pounds over weight drinking a bit too much Mountain Dew every day and yes, that's not too bad if you start gaining weight slowly at 10 or so, but you should try to do better if you want a healthy and long old age.

It takes surprisingly little excess to become over-weight or obese. You really have to work at staying your ideal weight, let alone at zero body fat or in athletic condition. This is why obesity is becoming a global problem: normal people are prone to becoming obese with a reduction in exercise or increase in food intake, even at very modest levels of imbalance. You really have to work to fight human nature, aka evolution, because it has designed your body to live fast and die young because that was good enough for your ancestors over the last few billion years.


It actually takes calories to maintain calories. So there is a point at which the weight gain will level off. It's probably not a bad idea to cut out the soda though.

Also, success in Darwinian terms have nothing to do with the "Success" of your children. As long as your children get to child bearing age you can consider yourself an evolutionary success. There's no reason for you to live longer than your children's puberty. (Especially since the more well off have fewer children) it would appear that your lamarckian theories are not as well thought out as you would like.
 
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