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2011-11-15 03:15:22 PM

Sentry1407:
Oh and one other thing. OWS is owned lock, stock, and barrel by Obama, Pelosi, et al. It will be their down fall

[sic]. Main stream[sic] America doesn't take kindly to anarchist wannabe cry babies[sic] demanding cradle to grave everything while the rest of America works or tries to find a job.

i141.photobucket.com

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism."
--George Washington
 
2011-11-15 03:18:39 PM

Boxingoutsider: One of my favorite things about OWS guys, especially the most militant, is that they are so quick to quote the constitution and state how it's the unmitigated law of the land. The second some second amendment guys try the same thing, they get shouted down.

ALL rights have limits. I'd bet 100 bucks that in 6 months there's no camping going on in Zucotti park. They're just being nice to the protestors now so they don't have to deal with them wailing and acting like they are being wronged when they are rightfully arrested.

And I want someone involved with OWS to tell me what set of circumstances means the end of your protesting. What are your goals? And how are you achieving them?


This is not a partisan movement. There are vets and republicans down there. This movement has nothing to do with your precious guns.
 
2011-11-15 03:18:55 PM

CPennypacker: It's amazing how many toolboxes will come in here and derp at the top of their lungs. Notice how every detraction of this movement is a non-starter and completely unrelated to the core message

They smell and are unhygenic (false)
They are in a private park illegally (false)
They don't know what they want (false)
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false)
They are protesting the wrong people (false)


I wonder if you have even the first clue how ironic your post is. Anyhow, lets take a stab at logic, Pennypacker style!

They smell and are unhygenic (true)
They are in a private park illegally (true)
They don't know what they want (true)
They don't understand what they are protesting (relevant and true)
They are protesting the wrong people (totes true!)

lulz. I win, I said "totes" and added a "!".

Winnar!
 
2011-11-15 03:21:19 PM

halfof33: CPennypacker: It's amazing how many toolboxes will come in here and derp at the top of their lungs. Notice how every detraction of this movement is a non-starter and completely unrelated to the core message

They smell and are unhygenic (false)
They are in a private park illegally (false)
They don't know what they want (false)
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false)
They are protesting the wrong people (false)

I wonder if you have even the first clue how ironic your post is. Anyhow, lets take a stab at logic, Pennypacker style!

They smell and are unhygenic (true)
They are in a private park illegally (true)
They don't know what they want (true)
They don't understand what they are protesting (relevant and true)
They are protesting the wrong people (totes true!)

lulz. I win, I said "totes" and added a "!".

Winnar!


Somewhere under a bridge, it is getting cold. Go home.
 
2011-11-15 03:21:32 PM

CPennypacker: Boxingoutsider: One of my favorite things about OWS guys, especially the most militant, is that they are so quick to quote the constitution and state how it's the unmitigated law of the land. The second some second amendment guys try the same thing, they get shouted down.

ALL rights have limits. I'd bet 100 bucks that in 6 months there's no camping going on in Zucotti park. They're just being nice to the protestors now so they don't have to deal with them wailing and acting like they are being wronged when they are rightfully arrested.

And I want someone involved with OWS to tell me what set of circumstances means the end of your protesting. What are your goals? And how are you achieving them?

This is not a partisan movement. There are vets and republicans down there. This movement has nothing to do with your precious guns.


You say that, but every thread I've seen on Fark regarding OWS has its champions badmouthing Republicans and the right wing every chance they get.
 
2011-11-15 03:23:33 PM

BroVinny: CPennypacker: Boxingoutsider: One of my favorite things about OWS guys, especially the most militant, is that they are so quick to quote the constitution and state how it's the unmitigated law of the land. The second some second amendment guys try the same thing, they get shouted down.

ALL rights have limits. I'd bet 100 bucks that in 6 months there's no camping going on in Zucotti park. They're just being nice to the protestors now so they don't have to deal with them wailing and acting like they are being wronged when they are rightfully arrested.

And I want someone involved with OWS to tell me what set of circumstances means the end of your protesting. What are your goals? And how are you achieving them?

This is not a partisan movement. There are vets and republicans down there. This movement has nothing to do with your precious guns.

You say that, but every thread I've seen on Fark regarding OWS has its champions badmouthing Republicans and the right wing every chance they get.


The Republicans get the brunt of it here. Both parties are to blame but the Republicans are trying really hard, and in a really public way, to please their corporate masters.
 
2011-11-15 03:25:03 PM

CPennypacker: Somewhere under a bridge, it is getting cold. Go home.


I knew it, knew it KNEW IT!

You can't see how hypocritical your post was.

Merely gainsaying a comment is not a logical argument, sport.
 
2011-11-15 03:25:49 PM

halfof33: CPennypacker: Somewhere under a bridge, it is getting cold. Go home.

I knew it, knew it KNEW IT!

You can't see how hypocritical your post was.

Merely gainsaying a comment is not a logical argument, sport.


I really hoped you were a troll, but I guess you're just dumb
 
2011-11-15 03:27:56 PM
bhcompy:

Gandhi, and the Civil Rights protestors, practiced non-violence against an oppressive government by directly violating the oppressing laws(burning your papers, making salt, sitting at a white counter, riding at the front of a bus, etc). This is not such a case. There is no oppressive government in this case. The entities being protested against are publicly owned private businesses(as in they are not owned by the governmental public).

I believe one of the main points of the protest is the idea that the larger of these private businesses have in fact bought and paid for, and thus own the government, or at least a good number of its representatives. And that their funding of said representatives (from all parties, btw), is what continues the cycle of laws benefiting the corporations as "people", instead of serving the interests of the general public.

So they're protesting the oppressive companies and the government they are the puppeteers of.
 
2011-11-15 03:28:06 PM

ringersol: HoboCop: "Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. "

If a city chooses to spend its taxes on paramilitary suppression of the freedom to speak and assemble, that's hardly the fault of the citizenship.
The only implicit costs associated with these occupations are a side effect of many people gathering -- something that's reasonable to believe is covered by the taxes they pay. If cleaning up after concerts, festivals and parades is covered, this doesn't seem like a stretch. (Why, if sanitation is the primary concern, have they not approached one of these occupations and asked them to rotate out of sections of the space so that it can be cleaned?)

The rest of the costs reflect a *choice* made by those in power to confront and illegally combat their own citizens.


Since we're exaggerating the situation: How else would you combat guerrilla insurgency other than paramilitary suppression? You seem to forget that OWS was originally planned with military terminology, specifically citing tactical situations, etc.
 
2011-11-15 03:29:08 PM

CPennypacker:
I really hoped you were a troll, but I guess you're just dumb


No, I'm not.

/lulz. Lecture us on derping from the top of your lungs moar.
 
2011-11-15 03:30:03 PM

bhcompy: safetycap: Gdalescrboz: One of these days you hippies are gonna need weapons to defend those rights. I cant wait to see the pics of thousands of hippies heads exploding when that ironic apifony strikes them

TrollScore™: 1/10

Look and learn, Junior:

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[i651.photobucket.com image 640x430]

Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.
-Mohandas Gandhi

Gandhi, and the Civil Rights protestors, practiced non-violence against an oppressive government by directly violating the oppressing laws(burning your papers, making salt, sitting at a white counter, riding at the front of a bus, etc). This is not such a case. There is no oppressive government in this case. The entities being protested against are publicly owned private businesses(as in they are not owned by the governmental public).


Hahah. You really never took History, did you? Segregation was THE LAW, enacted at State and City level that REQUIRED segregation in "private businesses."
 
2011-11-15 03:34:48 PM

bhcompy: safetycap: Gdalescrboz: One of these days you hippies are gonna need weapons to defend those rights. I cant wait to see the pics of thousands of hippies heads exploding when that ironic apifony strikes them

TrollScore™: 1/10

Look and learn, Junior:

[i651.photobucket.com image 500x382]

[i651.photobucket.com image 640x430]

Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.
-Mohandas Gandhi

Gandhi, and the Civil Rights protestors, practiced non-violence against an oppressive government by directly violating the oppressing laws(burning your papers, making salt, sitting at a white counter, riding at the front of a bus, etc). This is not such a case. There is no oppressive government in this case. The entities being protested against are publicly owned private businesses(as in they are not owned by the governmental public).


They are also protesting the laws and rules that were set in place that give those private corporations more power and influence over the government and public policy than citizens have. You need to stop purposely ignoring what you don't want to hear.
 
2011-11-15 03:34:59 PM

DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Sorry, but I'm with the Mayor on this one - the right to free speech IS NOT absolute, and there is NOTHING unconstitutional with saying "you're free to protest here, but you can't LIVE here, and you have to go somewhere else at night so we can clean up after your dumb asses, and then you are welcome to come back in the morning." Nothing.

You can't come into my house to practice your right to free speech.
You can't say "somebody needs to kill the president"
etc., etc. There are limits to free speech, always have been.


According to the First Amendment, you're wrong. Living there IS the protest. You might not agree with it, but since at least one judge already has, your only responsibility is to step in if there is a clear and present danger.

At the moment, there is a clear and present sanitation and security danger. You do not solve this with riot police and kicking everyone out, because that is a completely inappropriate response. You solve it by going up to the meetings, standing up, and telling them to clean up after themselves, oh, and this is how you do it. Then you have uniformed police officers, who are not in riot gear, patrol within the OWS movement itself, and remind the officers that they are, in fact, allowed to stop and say hi to people, get to know them, establish the kind of presence that keeps people feeling calm and safe.

/If the solution is 'go up and tell them to clean up and maybe put a few extra officers in the crowd', you have NO excuse for wasting taxpayer money and time not just being assholes but making OWS heroes.
 
2011-11-15 03:35:29 PM
If anyone wants to see (and laugh) what these clowns really look like and what they are really saying then its once click away. Once again the media can't be trusted to get the real story in the ball park of accuracy.

http://urbaninfidel.blogspot.com/
 
2011-11-15 03:36:08 PM

BroVinny: safetycap: Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.
-Mohandas Gandhi

Says a man who was gunned down.


Yeah, that whole "force the Brits out non-violently" is meaningless, considering what Nathuram Godse did.

TrollScore: 0/10
 
2011-11-15 03:38:02 PM

safetycap: BroVinny: safetycap: Non-violence is the greatest force at the disposal of mankind. It is mightier than the mightiest weapon of destruction devised by the ingenuity of man.
-Mohandas Gandhi

Says a man who was gunned down.

Yeah, that whole "force the Brits out non-violently" is meaningless, considering what Nathuram Godse did.

TrollScore™: 0/10


Never said he didn't accomplish anything; only implied that violence, in the end, was able to overcome his non-violence.
 
2011-11-15 03:39:56 PM
FTFA: "We could not wait for someone in the park to get killed or injure another person before acting."

So, you send a bunch of police in to kill or injure the peaceful protesters? That makes a lot of sense.

People say that the police are just donig their job. How does that make sense? Attacking people who are not breaking the law. Attacking people who are trying to stand up for their rights. Arresting and attacking any journalists who try to cover it. This is not their job.
 
2011-11-15 03:43:12 PM

C-Dilly: bhcompy:

Gandhi, and the Civil Rights protestors, practiced non-violence against an oppressive government by directly violating the oppressing laws(burning your papers, making salt, sitting at a white counter, riding at the front of a bus, etc). This is not such a case. There is no oppressive government in this case. The entities being protested against are publicly owned private businesses(as in they are not owned by the governmental public).

I believe one of the main points of the protest is the idea that the larger of these private businesses have in fact bought and paid for, and thus own the government, or at least a good number of its representatives. And that their funding of said representatives (from all parties, btw), is what continues the cycle of laws benefiting the corporations as "people", instead of serving the interests of the general public.

So they're protesting the oppressive companies and the government they are the puppeteers of.


So instead of voting the crooks out they decide to have a useless protest and set up tent cities no where near the politicians. Got it. I mean, is they truly represent the 99% they should be able to vote in who ever they decide to.
 
2011-11-15 03:43:27 PM

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: FTFA: "We could not wait for someone in the park to get killed or injure another person before acting."

So, you send a bunch of police in to kill or injure the peaceful protesters? That makes a lot of sense.

People say that the police are just donig their job. How does that make sense? Attacking people who are not breaking the law. Attacking people who are trying to stand up for their rights. Arresting and attacking any journalists who try to cover it. This is not their job.


I fail to see how camping out on private property is not breaking the law.
 
2011-11-15 03:43:53 PM

C-Dilly: I believe one of the main points of the protest is the idea that the larger of these private businesses have in fact bought and paid for, and thus own the government, or at least a good number of its representatives. And that their funding of said representatives (from all parties, btw), is what continues the cycle of laws benefiting the corporations as "people", instead of serving the interests of the general public.

So they're protesting the oppressive companies and the government they are the puppeteers of.


ongbok: They are also protesting the laws and rules that were set in place that give those private corporations more power and influence over the government and public policy than citizens have. You need to stop purposely ignoring what you don't want to hear.


The idea that a group of people can pool their money to do something that is a protected constitutional right(petitioning the government, which the courts have identified lobbying as such) should not be a problem. If one person has this right, there is no reason a group of people can't have this right. This is the court's reasoning, and it is perfectly sound from a constitutional perspective. Ultimately, correctly patrol what is lobbying and what is bribery, instead, to fix problems with vote fixing, favoritism, etc. Otherwise, what you are doing is trampling all over the constitutional rights of the citizens of this country.
 
2011-11-15 03:46:36 PM
How long before the Zuccotti Park protesters start demanding that their mail be forwarded there?
 
2011-11-15 03:55:08 PM

CPennypacker: It's amazing how many toolboxes will come in here and derp at the top of their lungs. Notice how every detraction of this movement is a non-starter and completely unrelated to the core message

They smell and are unhygenic (false)
They are in a private park illegally (false)
They don't know what they want (false)
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false)
They are protesting the wrong people (false)


You have some pretty stiff competition, but you actually might have won the dumbest post of the thread. Congrats! Not everything is T/F sunshine, so lets take another stab at this.
They smell and are unhygenic (False) Personal opinion
They are in a private park illegally (false) This is the only one with an absolute answer. Camping overnight in the park is illegal. Dawn to dusk, their protest is legal. Dusk to Dawn, they are in the park illegally.
They don't know what they want (false) Opinion
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false) opinion
They are protesting the wrong people (false) Opinion
 
2011-11-15 03:56:19 PM

HoboCop: Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. Thanks, Fox news!


I wonder if they compared it to what BoA's bailout cost Philly:

BoA Bailout: $142.2 Billion
divided by US pop'n: ~300,000,000
equals: $474 per person
Philly pop'n: ~1,500,000
Cost to Philly: $711,000,000

Or AIG's bailout: $180 bil
Or Citigroup's bailout: $280 bil
Or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac: $400 bil
etc...

Somehow, I doubt it.
 
2011-11-15 03:57:14 PM

halfof33: bhcompy: So where does it say in the Constitution all of things you've been claiming outside of the fact that they can assemble publicly? And you realize that the Constitution is interpreted, right? Freedom to assemble peacefully has limits, as defined by the courts. All of that has been hashed out a dozen times in this thread and you ignore it and state "CONSTITUTION!!!"

I assume he has everyone on ignore.

Somebody cut and paste this for me:

The State may also enforce regulations of the time, place, and manner of expression which are content-neutral, are narrowly tailored to serve a significant government interest, and leave open ample alternative channels of communication. United States Postal Service v. Council of Greenburgh Civic Assns., 453 U. S. 114, 132 (1981); Consolidated Edison Co. v. Public Service Comm'n, 447 U. S. 530, 535-536 (1980); Grayned v. City of Rockford, supra, at 115; Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U. S. 296 (1940); Schneider v. State, 308 U. S. 147 (1939).

Maybe he'll stop posting


Okay then, demonstrate that the action against the OWS are :

a) Content neutral
b) Identify the compelling governmental interest they serve
c) prove that taking this action was the least restrictive means to accomplish that interest
and finally:
D) identify the alternative channels of communication available to to the protestors to express the same message

can't do that? Then You fail the strict scrutiny standard and the protestor's 1st amendment rights prevail. Which might be why the JUDGE who considered the
 
2011-11-15 03:58:56 PM
I'm kind of surprised at all the anger and hatred pointed at Americans peacefully enjoying themselves.
What is the problem?
Are you haters jealous maybe that people are enjoying a social engagement during work hours?
Are you so desperate to hate on your own countrymen that you'd try to make it illegal?
I think you haters have some psychological issues you need to come to grips with.
There is historical precident for what these protesters are engaging in, and you make yourselves look like ignorant foreigners by hating on them.

/butthurt
 
2011-11-15 04:00:23 PM

creepy freak: /butthurt


You don't say.
 
2011-11-15 04:00:58 PM

Magorn: Which might be why the JUDGE who considered the


considered the what?

Just kidding, I doubt she considered anything, it was the most blatant case of judge shopping since ever.
 
2011-11-15 04:02:59 PM

halfof33: Magorn: Which might be why the JUDGE who considered the

considered the what?

Just kidding, I doubt she considered anything, it was the most blatant case of judge shopping since ever.


Which is why NYC is going to fight it. I'm eager to see what OWS mutates into once they're told to get off Zuccotti's lawn, once and for all.
 
2011-11-15 04:03:38 PM
There are not enough pictures or video available of the actual raid. I've been looking for hours and have seen some video and pics of police brutality and arrests, but not nearly enough. Obviously they did an effective job of confiscating cameras and keeping the press far away. And most of today's news reports from major news sources don't even show the available video/pics of police violence. I guess because the news companies are in bed with the system, and their directors don't want to make the heroic NYPD look brutal.

I stayed overnight at Zucotti for over 2 weeks, but left yesterday afternoon, apparently just in time to avoid the madness. I hope my protest camp-mates and friends are okay.
 
2011-11-15 04:09:50 PM

TreeHugger: I guess because the news companies are in bed with the system, and their directors don't want to make the heroic NYPD look brutal.


Well, if you guess it, it must be true.
 
2011-11-15 04:09:52 PM

tyrajam: CPennypacker: It's amazing how many toolboxes will come in here and derp at the top of their lungs. Notice how every detraction of this movement is a non-starter and completely unrelated to the core message

They smell and are unhygenic (false)
They are in a private park illegally (false)
They don't know what they want (false)
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false)
They are protesting the wrong people (false)

You have some pretty stiff competition, but you actually might have won the dumbest post of the thread. Congrats! Not everything is T/F sunshine, so lets take another stab at this.
They smell and are unhygenic (False) Personal opinion
They are in a private park illegally (false) This is the only one with an absolute answer. Camping overnight in the park is illegal. Dawn to dusk, their protest is legal. Dusk to Dawn, they are in the park illegally.
They don't know what they want (false) Opinion
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false) opinion
They are protesting the wrong people (false) Opinion

Fact

They smell and are unhygenic (False) Personal opinion Fact, I was there. Were you?
They are in a private park illegally (false) This is the only one with an absolute answer. Camping overnight in the park is illegal. Dawn to dusk, their protest is legal. Dusk to Dawn, they are in the park illegally. That park is open 24 hours. You're wrong
They don't know what they want (false) Opinion It's a douchebag talking point that they don't know what they want.
They don't understand what they are protesting (irrelevant and false) opinion No, they know exactly what they are protesting
They are protesting the wrong people (false) Opinion
 
2011-11-15 04:11:55 PM

mgshamster: HoboCop: Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. Thanks, Fox news!

I wonder if they compared it to what BoA's bailout cost Philly:

BoA Bailout: $142.2 Billion
divided by US pop'n: ~300,000,000
equals: $474 per person
Philly pop'n: ~1,500,000
Cost to Philly: $711,000,000

Or AIG's bailout: $180 bil
Or Citigroup's bailout: $280 bil
Or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac: $400 bil
etc...

Somehow, I doubt it.


Excellent point. When do we tear gas and bulldoze BOA?
 
2011-11-15 04:12:17 PM

poot_rootbeer: TreeHugger: I guess because the news companies are in bed with the system, and their directors don't want to make the heroic NYPD look brutal.

Well, if you guess it, it must be true.


I watched live as the police ejected the press and wouldn't let people retrieve their cameras.
 
2011-11-15 04:13:43 PM

halfof33: CeroX: And since the law limits the gov't from being able to deny reasonable accommodations for a peaceful (non-violent) assembly (for example a protest) and that assembly needs to span long term, those necessities of food, water, shelter, and medicine cannot be denied, even for a split second by the gov't.

I've said it ten times you have it backwards.

the government does not have to accomodate them at all.

Further, you have to wake up and realize that these people's occupation of the park is depriving other people the right to use the park as well.


Use the park? You know it's just a shiatty open space that at best functions as an extended lobby in between buildings, right?
 
2011-11-15 04:15:08 PM

karatekitten13: poot_rootbeer: TreeHugger: I guess because the news companies are in bed with the system, and their directors don't want to make the heroic NYPD look brutal.

Well, if you guess it, it must be true.

I watched live as the police ejected the press and wouldn't let people retrieve their cameras.


lol wut

Sounds like a media blackout!
 
2011-11-15 04:15:12 PM

TreeHugger: There are not enough pictures or video available of the actual raid. I've been looking for hours and have seen some video and pics of police brutality and arrests, but not nearly enough. Obviously they did an effective job of confiscating cameras and keeping the press far away. And most of today's news reports from major news sources don't even show the available video/pics of police violence. I guess because the news companies are in bed with the system, and their directors don't want to make the heroic NYPD look brutal.

I stayed overnight at Zucotti for over 2 weeks, but left yesterday afternoon, apparently just in time to avoid the madness. I hope my protest camp-mates and friends are okay.


all 100 of them? Seriously though, how many were down there with you? Looks so small, can it hold 200 people?
 
2011-11-15 04:16:33 PM
THIS IS WHY ron paul HAS BANNING FEDERAL COURT REVIEW OF ALL ANTI-ABORTION LAWS AS A PLATFORM FOR HIS CAMPAIGN.

All it takes is one judge who thinks an individual or group of individuals should be protected from the state to screw up everything a dictatorial power has in store for that party.

It's why the idea of the courts being a barrier between the individual and the state is so cherished.

/ron paul!
 
2011-11-15 04:17:13 PM
thepeoplescube.com
 
2011-11-15 04:21:02 PM

halfof33: Sounds like a media blackout!


LOL LIVESTREAM. Idiot.
 
2011-11-15 04:24:47 PM

karatekitten13: halfof33: Sounds like a media blackout!

LOL LIVESTREAM. Idiot.


So there is evidece of the police thuggery then, where do you think it will get posted? Will the MSM run the footage?
 
2011-11-15 04:25:51 PM

karatekitten13: LOL LIVESTREAM. Idiot.


Uh huh!

ZOMG! They are taking all the cameras, this is the worst injustice in history!

ZOMG! How do you know?

ZOMG I am watching it streaming... live on the... errr... internet.

/And you called me an idiot? lulz
 
2011-11-15 04:27:03 PM
dcist.com
 
2011-11-15 04:27:23 PM

Joe Blowme: karatekitten13: halfof33: Sounds like a media blackout!

LOL LIVESTREAM. Idiot.

So there is evidece of the police thuggery then, where do you think it will get posted? Will the MSM run the footage?


FOUND IT!! http://tv.breitbart.com/caught-on-video-occupy-protester-defecates-in- public-street/ (new window)
 
2011-11-15 04:27:37 PM

Pollexabator: I sure hope you posted that because of the giant farking Citi ad raining money down on the cop and protester. My laughter is available now at 0% APR (for the first 6 months, 21% APR after that).


So you picked up on that little bit of unintentional irony did you? Pretty goddamn funny.
 
2011-11-15 04:27:53 PM

mgshamster: HoboCop: Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. Thanks, Fox news!

I wonder if they compared it to what BoA's bailout cost Philly:

BoA Bailout: $142.2 Billion
divided by US pop'n: ~300,000,000
equals: $474 per person
Philly pop'n: ~1,500,000
Cost to Philly: $711,000,000

Or AIG's bailout: $180 bil
Or Citigroup's bailout: $280 bil
Or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac: $400 bil
etc...

Somehow, I doubt it.


Great point. The government takes OUR money and gives142.2 billion of OUR tax dollars to BoA. They give 180billion to AIG, 280billion to Citigroup, and 400 billion to Fannie/Freddie. Why are you not protesting the government who steals this money from the citizens and gives it to their allies? Ah, Obama has a (D) in front of his name. Nevermind.
 
2011-11-15 04:29:12 PM

CPennypacker: [dcist.com image 640x424]


FYI, that is not a valid permit as determined by the official interpreter of the Constitution
 
2011-11-15 04:30:24 PM

tyrajam: mgshamster: HoboCop: Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. Thanks, Fox news!

I wonder if they compared it to what BoA's bailout cost Philly:

BoA Bailout: $142.2 Billion
divided by US pop'n: ~300,000,000
equals: $474 per person
Philly pop'n: ~1,500,000
Cost to Philly: $711,000,000

Or AIG's bailout: $180 bil
Or Citigroup's bailout: $280 bil
Or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac: $400 bil
etc...

Somehow, I doubt it.

Great point. The government takes OUR money and gives142.2 billion of OUR tax dollars to BoA. They give 180billion to AIG, 280billion to Citigroup, and 400 billion to Fannie/Freddie. Why are you not protesting the government who steals this money from the citizens and gives it to their allies? Ah, Obama has a (D) in front of his name. Nevermind.


Maybe cuz Obama didn't bail out the banks?
 
2011-11-15 04:32:49 PM

CPennypacker: tyrajam: mgshamster: HoboCop: Last night on Fox news they showed a number representing how much in taxes the OWS protest in Philly has cost the city. Thanks, Fox news!

I wonder if they compared it to what BoA's bailout cost Philly:

BoA Bailout: $142.2 Billion
divided by US pop'n: ~300,000,000
equals: $474 per person
Philly pop'n: ~1,500,000
Cost to Philly: $711,000,000

Or AIG's bailout: $180 bil
Or Citigroup's bailout: $280 bil
Or Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac: $400 bil
etc...

Somehow, I doubt it.

Great point. The government takes OUR money and gives142.2 billion of OUR tax dollars to BoA. They give 180billion to AIG, 280billion to Citigroup, and 400 billion to Fannie/Freddie. Why are you not protesting the government who steals this money from the citizens and gives it to their allies? Ah, Obama has a (D) in front of his name. Nevermind.

Maybe cuz Obama didn't bail out the banks?


You have to share what ever you are smoking.
 
2011-11-15 04:32:49 PM

Joe Blowme: So there is evidece of the police thuggery then, where do you think it will get posted? Will the MSM run the footage?


They have been. You haven't been paying attention.

Then again, it's pretty hard to get good reception from under a bridge.
 
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