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(Townhall) Interesting Before we go to the polls in 2012, let's find out if the GOP is becoming again the same old War Party that bankrupted the nation   (townhall.com) divider line 213
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2011-11-15 08:42:11 AM
That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.
 
2011-11-15 09:22:02 AM
Becoming again implies they ever changed.
 
2011-11-15 09:24:08 AM
Aarontology: Becoming again implies they ever changed.

Touche, sir.
 
2011-11-15 09:48:09 AM
But if we don't invade their countries and kill their leaders how will we convert them to Christianity?
 
2011-11-15 09:54:29 AM
So the candidates leading the GOP nomination process advocate starting a war against a country that hasn't threatened us in order to eliminate the weapons of mass destruction our intelligence agencies claim they posses? Do I have that right? Am I to assume as well that such a war would be funded by promissory notes to China?
 
2011-11-15 09:56:06 AM
St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

sometimes he pops out of his senility to say something that actually makes sense.
 
2011-11-15 10:45:52 AM
ignatiusst: So the candidates leading the GOP nomination process advocate starting a war against a country that hasn't threatened us in order to eliminate the weapons of mass destruction our intelligence agencies claim they posses? Do I have that right? Am I to assume as well that such a war would be funded by promissory notes to China?

Well yeah, what do you expect them to do, raise taxes on the wealthy? Everyone knows that's impossible.
 
2011-11-15 10:53:41 AM
St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

wait! WHAT ?
that article was written by a democrat!!
 
2011-11-15 10:57:27 AM
namatad: St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

wait! WHAT ?
that article was written by a democrat!!


After his fellow Republicans see this, that might be the case.
 
2011-11-15 11:03:42 AM
CruiserTwelve: But if we don't invade their countries and kill their leaders how will we convert them to Christianity?

With bombs. Jesus bombs.
 
2011-11-15 11:05:15 AM
This feels like a trick question. They only think war isn't called for when a Democrat calls for it. And even then their opinion becomes "your war shouldn't happen, and it's way too small!"
 
2011-11-15 11:05:40 AM
St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

Whatever you say, Pat Buchanan is not an idiot. He may be a racist, a troll, and an idiot, but definitely not a Communist.
 
2011-11-15 11:06:54 AM
We need to stay out of the middle east so that we can stop the most endless war of the all that's bankrupting us:

The War on Poverty:
46 years and counting
250,000 dead Americans
$10 trillion spent
4 major American Cities Destroyed
 
2011-11-15 11:09:07 AM
We should just nuke the rest of the planet to be completely sure that that only people left are freedom-loving Americans.
 
2011-11-15 11:10:24 AM
Good stuff. Glad to see a little actual sense from a right-wing pundit. Keep it up.
 
2011-11-15 11:10:56 AM
Buchanan goes RINO?
 
2011-11-15 11:11:07 AM
St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

It's gotta be a trap.
 
2011-11-15 11:11:10 AM
Serious Black: We should just nuke the rest of the planet to be completely sure that that only people left are freedom-loving Americans.

You know who else wanted to exterminate all other life...
 
2011-11-15 11:11:46 AM
Satanic_Hamster: You know who else wanted to exterminate all other life...

The Daleks?
 
2011-11-15 11:11:53 AM
'Becoming?'
 
2011-11-15 11:12:07 AM
make me some tea: Good stuff. Glad to see a little actual sense from a right-wing pundit. Keep it up.

www.ackbar.org
 
2011-11-15 11:13:33 AM
cameroncrazy1984: ignatiusst: So the candidates leading the GOP nomination process advocate starting a war against a country that hasn't threatened us in order to eliminate the weapons of mass destruction our intelligence agencies claim they posses? Do I have that right? Am I to assume as well that such a war would be funded by promissory notes to China?

Well yeah, what do you expect them to do, raise taxes on the wealthy? Everyone knows that's impossibleunpossible.


FIFM
 
2011-11-15 11:15:20 AM
IrateShadow: Satanic_Hamster: You know who else wanted to exterminate all other life...

The Daleks?


Exactly. And like the Daleks, Americans are getting so fat and lazy that we'll be defeated by a simple but effective technology; stairs.
 
2011-11-15 11:18:17 AM
I'm sorry, the only way we can funnel large amounts of defense spending to large corporate interests and not actually spend any of it on the infrastructure of this country is to gin up a convenient war so we're building bridges over there instead of building them here. Plus, we get to blow up those bridges later on, so it's a win-win situation.
 
2011-11-15 11:18:48 AM
I have noticed the right wing turds having been mentioning Iran more, Even the ironic peace prize recipient was saying no military options were off the table.
 
2011-11-15 11:18:54 AM
IrateShadow: Satanic_Hamster: You know who else wanted to exterminate all other life...

The Daleks?


Berserkers.

/Though to be fair, goodlife wouldn't be killed immediately.
 
2011-11-15 11:19:10 AM
I find myself agreeing with Pat Buchanan. Now I feel dirty.
 
2011-11-15 11:19:10 AM
Satanic_Hamster: Exactly. And like the Daleks, Americans are getting so fat and lazy that we'll be defeated by a simple but effective technology; stairs.

Guy on Hoverround: "You don't expect me to actually climb those? Whar's the elevator?"
 
2011-11-15 11:20:21 AM
B-b-but I thought it was 0bamao handing 0bamao money to "those people" that bankrupted the country after the glorious free-market paradise that GWB left after his revolutionary, freedom-spreading two terms in office! DAMN YOU TAXBAMA!
 
2011-11-15 11:20:40 AM
Seems there have been a surprising number of articles the last few days of GOP'ers bashing the GOP and their overreaching.

Almost like a coordinated effort to make the message more center based and less far right. A push to get independents and moderates back.

Don't be fooled by the fools.

Tom Coburn, Pat Buchanan, etc.

These few pushing a new narrative are not to be believed that those they support for higher offices would follow through on such ideas if elected.
 
2011-11-15 11:22:09 AM
DarwiOdrade: make me some tea: Good stuff. Glad to see a little actual sense from a right-wing pundit. Keep it up.

[www.ackbar.org image 277x360]


Probably.
 
2011-11-15 11:22:53 AM
Fark that, I don't want to get nuked over Israel.
 
2011-11-15 11:23:40 AM
Under the Constitution, said Paul, no president has the right to launch an unprovoked attack on Iran without congressional authorization.


If only that were enforced.
 
2011-11-15 11:23:49 AM
IrateShadow: Satanic_Hamster: You know who else wanted to exterminate all other life...

The Daleks?


This, sir, is what is wrong with political discourse today. Honest concern is expressed and you immediately bring up the worst race in existence for a false comparison.

I hope you are proud of yourself.
 
2011-11-15 11:24:00 AM
BS. It was welfare recipients with fancy rims who got a loan for a house but refused to pay on it that caused the crash.
 
2011-11-15 11:25:13 AM
Don't be silly, Pat. When Republicans are actually in charge, they can recklessly spend as much as they want without their base complaining. For more proof, see the George W. Bush years.

Spending only kills jobs when Democrats do it.
 
2011-11-15 11:26:21 AM
Can't see or read anything about Pat Buchanan without thinking of this

can't find a good video of it.

Patty-Patty Buch-Buch!

/make some valid point the ole curmudgeon does.
 
2011-11-15 11:26:22 AM
Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?
 
2011-11-15 11:29:20 AM
Arkanaut: St_Francis_P: That was the first sensible article I've seen from Pat Buchanan.

Whatever you say, Pat Buchanan is not an idiot. He may be a racist, a troll, and an idiot, but definitely not a Communist.


WAT?
 
2011-11-15 11:30:01 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-15 11:30:04 AM
lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

There is a faction of GOP fundies who feel that will be the source of their End-of-Days prophecy.
 
2011-11-15 11:30:31 AM
lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

It figures in with the "End Times" malarkey.
 
2011-11-15 11:32:46 AM
lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

Having Teh Joos in the Holy Land is one of the prerequisites for Jeebus coming back.
 
2011-11-15 11:32:57 AM
monoski: lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

There is a faction of GOP fundies who feel that will be the source of their End-of-Days prophecy.


Wait, are they serious? I read both comments about that and I just don't understand how a grown adult wanting to run a country would seriously buy into this.
 
2011-11-15 11:34:46 AM
lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

Dispensational premillenialism.
 
2011-11-15 11:34:52 AM
lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

It's a religious thing.

A big part of the Evangelical belief system is that the Rapture and the return of Jesus Christ, Son of God, cannot happen until the world unites against Israel and moves to wipe it off the map. But, those who stand against that united Satanic army will be blessed by God when he returns to wipe that military force out. So, a lot of Evangelical Christians advocate supporting Israel no matter what because of Jesus and such.

The Israelis know about this mindset and find it ludicrous but still take full advantage of their religious lunacy by lobbying the Christian church network in America for political support.
 
2011-11-15 11:38:39 AM
monoski: Buchanan goes RINO?

Yup. Just waiting for some teatard or neocon hack to drop the RINO bomb on him.
 
2011-11-15 11:39:37 AM
shamanwest: This, sir, is what is wrong with political discourse today. Honest concern is expressed and you immediately bring up the worst race in existence for a false comparison.

I hope you are proud of yourself.


What are you talking about? No one brought up the Dutch.
 
2011-11-15 11:39:38 AM
Infernalist: lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

It's a religious thing.

A big part of the Evangelical belief system is that the Rapture and the return of Jesus Christ, Son of God, cannot happen until the world unites against Israel and moves to wipe it off the map. But, those who stand against that united Satanic army will be blessed by God when he returns to wipe that military force out. So, a lot of Evangelical Christians advocate supporting Israel no matter what because of Jesus and such.

The Israelis know about this mindset and find it ludicrous but still take full advantage of their religious lunacy by lobbying the Christian church network in America for political support.


Yup. And these are the assholes that dominate the Republican Party.

The GOP is dedicated to doing what's necessary to hasten the return of Christ. This is the prime motivation for their foreign and domestic policy.

And people still vote for these lunatics.
 
2011-11-15 11:39:57 AM
lordlight: monoski: lordlight: Why is the GOP obsessed with israel? Am I missing something about the republican mindset or it is just a talking point?

There is a faction of GOP fundies who feel that will be the source of their End-of-Days prophecy.

Wait, are they serious? I read both comments about that and I just don't understand how a grown adult wanting to run a country would seriously buy into this.


They don't necessarily do. They do it for the type of voter they are courting. A large enough block of those voters believe in end-times prophesy enough to matter. Once you know the types of dog-whistle term and beliefs that appeals to rapturists, you start seeing it everywhere in the speeches and ads of right-wing politicians, especially those in the South.
 
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