OregonVet: Kind of a neat story.

It is. Who would've thought that donating pints of blood in order to pay for the tickets saved his life.

Good story, vintage Reilly. You know, from SI, when his articles weren't horrendous.

Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

That's the power of love....

mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

Build a new stadium and move out of Lambeau?!? I hope you don't kiss your mother with that dirty mouth.

mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...



You don't just tear down Lambeau field to fulfill the needs of 30,000. Not to mention 30,000 squashing into Green Bay. Green Bay is a decent size city, but it ain't that big. The field itself is in the backyard of ordinary residential houses.

Lambeau is perfect the way it is with its once in a while expansions.

mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

A lot of reasons. The business reason is that we're a publically owned team, and the land surrounding that area is in a residential neighborhood. We'd, or I really should say "they'd" have to get ALL kinds of dispensations from the NFL for a fund-raising drive of that magnitude. When the NFL allowed the team to do our first stock sale for capitol improvements they included bylaws to insure that we wouldn't be able to pull in the kind of $$ that other owners (as single entities) couldn't.

Plus, it's Lambeau. Who wants to watch a game anywhwere else!

The

My step dad is a season ticket holder, now that they have the seat 'rights' fee he can will them to me, which is great...prior to the 'rights' fee you'd lose your seats...

mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

It's not really a sham. What makes the list so difficult to move up is that people rarely give up their tickets and they can be inherited upon death of the ticket holder. They did lose some people when they added the big user fee about 10 years back, but you get that (or at least part of it) refunded when you cancel your season tickets. Even the terrible years of the 70s and 80s didn't thin the list.

The Packers season tickets are also split into two packages, since they used to play some home games in Milwaukee, and the lists are still huge - and there's a separate list for the indoor Club seats, which cost a few hundred $ a seat per game.

Also, as said above, the stadium and field will not be moved & the location is all part of the experience. If you're in Green Bay during a game and not at the stadium, the whole city is pretty much shut down (or at least eerily quiet, other than stadium noise. All of the residents living near the stadium sell parking in their lawns, since the lot is no where near large enough, and not worth it unless you need a handicapped spot.

/Parents have had the "Milwaukee" package tickets since the early 90s.
//Just wish we'd get less night games and more Sunday afternoon games due to the drive.

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

It's not really a sham. What makes the list so difficult to move up is that people rarely give up their tickets and they can be inherited upon death of the ticket holder. They did lose some people when they added the big user fee about 10 years back, but you get that (or at least part of it) refunded when you cancel your season tickets. Even the terrible years of the 70s and 80s didn't thin the list.

The Packers season tickets are also split into two packages, since they used to play some home games in Milwaukee, and the lists are still huge - and there's a separate list for the indoor Club seats, which cost a few hundred $ a seat per game.

Also, as said above, the stadium and field will not be moved & the location is all part of the experience. If you're in Green Bay during a game and not at the stadium, the whole city is pretty much shut down (or at least eerily quiet, other than stadium noise. All of the residents living near the stadium sell parking in their lawns, since the lot is no where near large enough, and not worth it unless you need a handicapped spot.

/Parents have had the "Milwaukee" package tickets since the early 90s.
//Just wish we'd get less night games and more Sunday afternoon games due to the drive.

I've always had a mental image of Snake from the Simpsons having a field day during Packer games. That and Tumbleweeds blowing through. And that's part of why I love my Packers.

I hear Dan Snyder has a plethora of Redskins season tickets for sale.

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

It's not really a sham. What makes the list so difficult to move up is that people rarely give up their tickets and they can be inherited upon death of the ticket holder. They did lose some people when they added the big user fee about 10 years back, but you get that (or at least part of it) refunded when you cancel your season tickets. Even the terrible years of the 70s and 80s didn't thin the list.

The Packers season tickets are also split into two packages, since they used to play some home games in Milwaukee, and the lists are still huge - and there's a separate list for the indoor Club seats, which cost a few hundred $ a seat per game.

Also, as said above, the stadium and field will not be moved & the location is all part of the experience. If you're in Green Bay during a game and not at the stadium, the whole city is pretty much shut down (or at least eerily quiet, other than stadium noise. All of the residents living near the stadium sell parking in their lawns, since the lot is no where near large enough, and not worth it unless you need a handicapped spot.

/Parents have had the "Milwaukee" package tickets since the early 90s.
//Just wish we'd get less night games and more Sunday afternoon games due to the drive.

Making sure the family Packer tickets are correctly put in the will is kinda a Wisconsin tradition. Pretty much the only way to get tickets off the waiting list is for someone to die and NOT pass them down. That and the rare stadium expansion.

Most non-WI people don't quite realize how football works there. Gameday you just know that Hwy41 is going to be a mess from Milwaukee to GreenBay. Pre-game every grocer gets a run on beer/food. During the game the ENTIRE state just shuts down. I lived in Fond du Lac years back and we used to throw a radio on the counter at work to listen to the game as no one ever went out for those 4 hours. You could go to any restaurant, store, etc and be one of the only ones there.

CSB: My Father-in-law went on the list when he was 15. He only signed up for two thinking it would be him and his girlfriend/etc. He got them 20 years later and his only regret was not signing up to get 4. Currently my wife and I are the frontrunners in the family for the tickets-in-the-will competition. As it stands now my wife and I get a game or two a year if we want one.

/Milwaukee tickets as well
//Brother in law is a Pats fan. Gives us the edge.

I remember reading about this probably two years ago. Is this Reilly recycling his own work, or plagiarizing somebody else's? How many dentist analogies were there?

Broktun: I hear Dan Snyder has a plethora of Redskins season tickets for sale.

I hear he uses the extra tickets to wallpaper "Riverhouse"

mrtoadswildride: Why don't they build a new stadium

Never get rid of Lambeau Field

As a Bears fan, I know the Horror of going to Soldier Field and seeing the bastard child of a UFO and a James Bond villain hideout.

It was like seeing a child hood friend raped before your very eyes...

Soldier Field... Never Forget

mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...



/Nobody farks with THE Holiest of Holy places!

It's so hard for Packers fans to get tickets they road trip like crazy to other cities in the midwest. When the Packers came to St. Louis a few years ago in December I sold my upper deck face value $65 seats for $300 each. The next game my fellow season ticket holders around me gave me crap for selling my tickets until I told them about my profit.

\Paid for Christmas and other bills.
\\CSB

Retro42: Making sure the family Packer tickets are correctly put in the will is kinda a Wisconsin tradition. Pretty much the only way to get tickets off the waiting list is for someone to die and NOT pass them down. That and the rare stadium expansion.

Actually, according to the info on the webpage, you don't actually have to put them in your will - for example, they automatically go to your surviving spouse. The will mostly becomes important when there is no surviving spouse and multiple surviving children who can't agree.

Been on the list since 1992. No where even close to scoring my seats. Kids have been on since birth. They have virtually no chance of seats in there lifetime.

Retro42: Most non-WI people don't quite realize how football works there. Gameday you just know that Hwy41 is going to be a mess from Milwaukee to GreenBay. Pre-game every grocer gets a run on beer/food. During the game the ENTIRE state just shuts down. I lived in Fond du Lac years back and we used to throw a radio on the counter at work to listen to the game as no one ever went out for those 4 hours. You could go to any restaurant, store, etc and be one of the only ones there.

My wife doesn't follow football at all, but she LOVES it when the Packers play. She goes shopping during that time since all of the stores are empty. We live in the Milwaukee area.

As for attending games, I have a close friend that gets all but two of his parent's tickets each season, and he'll eventually get them all. I can attend a game paying just face value each season if I want. I like going every couple of years, but I actually prefer watching on TV, especially since the games I get invited to are normally in December. It made a hell of a Christmas present being able to buy two tickets at face value for my mom one year, though. :)

Right...becuase the sports world collapsed when they got rid of Yankee stadium, the boston garden, three rivers, the vet..

or when the colts moved to Indianapolis or the browns moved to Baltimore...

or lebron left cleveland....or Jordan went to the wizards...or favre left green bay...

I can keep going if you really need me to?

I'm not saying the field should be torn down turned into a strip mall (keep it as a museum and tourist atraction)

The point is that if there are really 80,000 people (ie enough people full an entire second lambeau field, and still have 8,000 people on a waiting list) why not build a new better stadium to capitalize on it? Why are there a dozen college stadiums that seat 100,000 people, but lambeau only seats 70,000?

why cram a football stadium into the downtown of a tiny city, when there are thousands of acres of available space just a few miles outside of town....

/If the only argument is: "becuase it's tradition" or becuase it's lambeau...I think that's a fairly weak argument.
// If it's a cost issue or that the list is just a bunch of name and there aren't really 150,000 people trying to get tickets, then that's fine. But if there is this much support and interest...and it's been ongoing...why not get another 30,000 people to game?

My wife used to work at a Kinko's just south of Lambeau on Sundays. Quietest days at work she ever spent. She'd just look out the windows and count the limos.

It might be noted that if the Packers wanted to sell more season tickets, they have a few thousand seats they could make available. Instead, they sell those tickets on a single game basis to Brown County residents who pay the sales tax that paid for the 2000 expansion. You put your name in a lottery, if it's picked you can buy four tickets to one game. (The one caveat is that you get assigned the game at random and might get an exhibition game; however, if you get an exhibition game, and you're picked the next season, you're guaranteed a regular season game.

Don't know of any other team in any other sport that set aside seats for taxpayers.

I am currently # 85,602 on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tickets.
I'll be 100 y.o. and bionic by the time I get those tickets.....

no clever name here just move along: I am currently # 85,602 on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tickets.
I'll be 100 y.o. and bionic by the time I get those tickets.....

I'm somewhere around 27000. Finally someone I know on here. I went to jr high with you. WAC 85.

no clever name here just move along: I am currently # 85,602 on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tickets.
I'll be 1000 y.o. and bionic by the time I get those tickets.....

FTFY

Man, that drive back to Milwaukee from up north when a game lets out is like a cross between Running Man and Mad Max x booze^2.

mrtoadswildride: Right...becuase the sports world collapsed when they got rid of Yankee stadium, the boston garden, three rivers, the vet..

or when the colts moved to Indianapolis or the browns moved to Baltimore...

or lebron left cleveland....or Jordan went to the wizards...or favre left green bay...

I can keep going if you really need me to?

I'm not saying the field should be torn down turned into a strip mall (keep it as a museum and tourist atraction)

The point is that if there are really 80,000 people (ie enough people full an entire second lambeau field, and still have 8,000 people on a waiting list) why not build a new better stadium to capitalize on it? Why are there a dozen college stadiums that seat 100,000 people, but lambeau only seats 70,000?

why cram a football stadium into the downtown of a tiny city, when there are thousands of acres of available space just a few miles outside of town....

/If the only argument is: "becuase it's tradition" or becuase it's lambeau...I think that's a fairly weak argument.
// If it's a cost issue or that the list is just a bunch of name and there aren't really 150,000 people trying to get tickets, then that's fine. But if there is this much support and interest...and it's been ongoing...why not get another 30,000 people to game?

Well now you're just trolling, so the answer of why they don't build a new larger stadium "elsewhere" is because fark you, that's why.

Here's what we said about it the first time we talked about it -Überfan sells own blood so he can afford Packers tickets, unwittingly saving his own life in the process (new window)

mrtoadswildride: Right...becuase the sports world collapsed when they got rid of Yankee stadium, the boston garden, three rivers, the vet..

or when the colts moved to Indianapolis or the browns moved to Baltimore...

or lebron left cleveland....or Jordan went to the wizards...or favre left green bay...

I can keep going if you really need me to?

I'm not saying the field should be torn down turned into a strip mall (keep it as a museum and tourist atraction)

The point is that if there are really 80,000 people (ie enough people full an entire second lambeau field, and still have 8,000 people on a waiting list) why not build a new better stadium to capitalize on it? Why are there a dozen college stadiums that seat 100,000 people, but lambeau only seats 70,000?

why cram a football stadium into the downtown of a tiny city, when there are thousands of acres of available space just a few miles outside of town....

/If the only argument is: "becuase it's tradition" or becuase it's lambeau...I think that's a fairly weak argument.
// If it's a cost issue or that the list is just a bunch of name and there aren't really 150,000 people trying to get tickets, then that's fine. But if there is this much support and interest...and it's been ongoing...why not get another 30,000 people to game?

See my earlier post, or otherwise 4/10 trolling effort

I'm at just around 5,000 on the list, their adding 6,600 new seats. Each person could have signed up for up to four tickets, so that could be 26,400 tickets. But then they have the Green and Gold Packages. So that cuts that to, two sets of 13,200 tickets, before me. But the new "wall of sound" seats are going to have many different levels, from around $80.00,to over $350.00 a seat, many people wont be able to afford the upper end seats and after being on the list for 30 or 40 years will have to pass. I don't know what the fark is happening.

/anyway I should have tckets in the next 3 to 10 years
//my sister is about 100 behind me, so she may be about 1 or 2 behind that

The5thElement: no clever name here just move along: I am currently # 85,602 on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tickets.
I'll be 100 y.o. and bionic by the time I get those tickets.....

I'm somewhere around 27000. Finally someone I know on here. I went to jr high with you. WAC 85.

You know me? Ok,......... jr high? how did you figure that out?

no clever name here just move along: The5thElement: no clever name here just move along: I am currently # 85,602 on the waiting list for Green Bay Packers season tickets.
I'll be 100 y.o. and bionic by the time I get those tickets.....

I'm somewhere around 27000. Finally someone I know on here. I went to jr high with you. WAC 85.

You know me? Ok,......... jr high? how did you figure that out?

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Your very own stalker, how nice

X_Legend: mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

A lot of reasons. The business reason is that we're a publically owned team, and the land surrounding that area is in a residential neighborhood. We'd, or I really should say "they'd" have to get ALL kinds of dispensations from the NFL for a fund-raising drive of that magnitude. When the NFL allowed the team to do our first stock sale for capitol improvements they included bylaws to insure that we wouldn't be able to pull in the kind of $$ that other owners (as single entities) couldn't.

Plus, it's Lambeau. Who wants to watch a game anywhwere else!

The


This isn't a troll.

1. The league will grant anything that is good for business. You think they'd really prevent the packers from building a new stadium?

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but like 2 miles outside the city is a whole lot of "nothing" (aka open space)...I'm not saying tear down lambeau, or take over 6 more city blocks....just build a new stadium a couple miles away. (It's not unheard of....the patriots moved from Boston to Foxborough, which is about 20 miles outside of boston)

3. I know it's lambeau...just like "it's 3 rivers", it's yankee stadium" its , or it's the vet"...as I said before, the only argument seems to be "becuase it's lambeau"...why not build a an entire complex....with parking, shopping, restaurants, bars, hotels, etc....

4. If there really is this much interest it seems like it'd be a waste not capitalize on it.

/which goes to my original point: other than becuase "it's lambeau" does anyone have any real reason not to build a new stadium....

mrtoadswildride: This isn't a troll.

1. The league will grant anything that is good for business. You think they'd really prevent the packers from building a new stadium?

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but like 2 miles outside the city is a whole lot of "nothing" (aka open space)...I'm not saying tear down lambeau, or take over 6 more city blocks....just build a new stadium a couple miles away. (It's not unheard of....the patriots moved from Boston to Foxborough, which is about 20 miles outside of boston)

3. I know it's lambeau...just like "it's 3 rivers", it's yankee stadium" its , or it's the vet"...as I said before, the only argument seems to be "becuase it's lambeau"...why not build a an entire complex....with parking, shopping, restaurants, bars, hotels, etc....

4. If there really is this much interest it seems like it'd be a waste not capitalize on it.

/which goes to my original point: other than becuase "it's lambeau" does anyone have any real reason not to build a new stadium....

Have you been to Lambeau? It was just renovated a few years back. The stadium is in fantastic shape. Plus there is a renovation for the South Endzone in the works. Will add 6,600 seats I believe. That will make it one of the largest in the league.

Don't forget who owns the team. I know you made the comparison to other stadiums but it's not accurate. Lambeau Field is as much a part of Packer football as the team is. As Packer fans we enjoy the atmosphere. We like traveling to small town WI to watch a game. We like tailgating in it's parking lot and all the adjacent neighborhoods. We like getting hammered and cheering alongside the same far-north dude you wouldn't talk to otherwise.

CSB: Whoever owns the tickets in front of ours sells them to the other teams fans quite often. It always plays out the same. They show up wearing the visitors jersey's and looking intimidated. By the 2nd quarter they are drinking and enjoying the game with the rest of us. Typically whoever is winning is buying more rounds for everyone.

mrtoadswildride: X_Legend: mrtoadswildride: Question.

So the packer have this really long waiting list for season tickets, something like 80,000 people...( and I understand part of the list is a sham as kids and babies are on the list becuase they've been put on the list to get in line)....

Why don't they build a new stadium that seats like 100,000? (currently Lambeau only holds around 72,000)....If there really is a 80,000 person demand for season tickets they'll sell out the additional 30,000 seats in days...and that will bring in more food, parking, and revenue, etc...

A lot of reasons. The business reason is that we're a publically owned team, and the land surrounding that area is in a residential neighborhood. We'd, or I really should say "they'd" have to get ALL kinds of dispensations from the NFL for a fund-raising drive of that magnitude. When the NFL allowed the team to do our first stock sale for capitol improvements they included bylaws to insure that we wouldn't be able to pull in the kind of $$ that other owners (as single entities) couldn't.

Plus, it's Lambeau. Who wants to watch a game anywhwere else!

The


This isn't a troll.

1. The league will grant anything that is good for business. You think they'd really prevent the packers from building a new stadium?

2. Correct me if I'm wrong, but like 2 miles outside the city is a whole lot of "nothing" (aka open space)...I'm not saying tear down lambeau, or take over 6 more city blocks....just build a new stadium a couple miles away. (It's not unheard of....the patriots moved from Boston to Foxborough, which is about 20 miles outside of boston)

3. I know it's lambeau...just like "it's 3 rivers", it's yankee stadium" its , or it's the vet"...as I said before, the only argument seems to be "becuase it's lambeau"...why not build a an entire complex....with parking, shopping, restaurants, bars, hotels, etc....

4. If there really is this much interest it seems like it'd be a waste not capitalize on it.

/which goes to my original point: other than becuase "it's lambeau" does anyone have any real reason not to build a new stadium....

And they could make it a dome!

/ducks and covers

Retro42: Typically whoever is winning is buying more rounds for everyone.

Must be an expensive year for you.

CSB: Whoever owns the tickets in front of ours sells them to the other teams fans quite often. It always plays out the same. They show up wearing the visitors jersey's and looking intimidated. By the 2nd quarter they are drinking and enjoying the game with the rest of us. Typically whoever is winning is buying more rounds for everyone.


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THIS

I have been getting tickets from a friend for over 20 years and have probably gone to close to 100 games. I have NEVER seen a fan from the other team get anything than good hearted ribbing. Even during the "Dallas years" when we couldn't beat Dallas and there was finally the "showdown" in GB. There was a guy wearing his Cowboys jersey with his girl wearing a Packer jersey, at half time he got down on one knew and proposed to her. Everybody around them gave them a standing ovation and they didn't have to buy a drink the rest of the game,

knew = knee