Subby sounds like an import fan.

Why do you hate America, Subby?

/dad has had three Corvettes.

I have no need for this information.

Vettes suck.

This should simply be called "Compenisation technology".

Meh. Everything after the C3 looks like shiat.

For the price you really can't buy a better performance car. A Z06 (500hp/470lbft) starts at 75.5K

That's 14k less than the GTR (also an awesome performance car).

The stock corvette is 50K.

Only gripes people have is with the build quality and refinement of the interior. But that stuff costs money, which would increase the price of the vette.

Other gripe is the usual casual (automatic) owners. They are both lame and driving it as a status symbol.

TheTeethoftheTiger: For the price you really can't buy a better performance car. A Z06 (500hp/470lbft) starts at 75.5K

That's 14k less than the GTR (also an awesome performance car).

The stock corvette is 50K.

Only gripes people have is with the build quality and refinement of the interior. But that stuff costs money, which would increase the price of the vette.

Other gripe is the usual casual (automatic) owners. They are both lame and driving it as a status symbol.

Depends. That "first to fourth" feature they had was annoying to my dad.

A bunch of sad, old men in that comments section.

"Late 90's cars started getting bloated and rounded, and they haven't really stopped yet." I bet he misses the days of guitar solos and acid-washed denim, too.

Hershey Highway Patrol: [img198.imageshack.us image 527x432]

Hey, I'm not compensating. There is a pretty big pothole in my office parking lot. And those gravel lots at the soccer field are a nightmare.

"Is that how you met your husband?"

"God, no. We were introduced through friends like normal people."

tricycleracer: "Is that how you met your husband?"

"God, no. We were introduced through friends like normal people."

Totally. Wrong. Thread.

IrateShadow: Meh. Everything after the C3 looks like shiat.

This. Wedge, wedge, wedge, wedge, repeat.

Marine1:

Depends. That "first to fourth" feature they had was annoying to my dad.

Easily eliminated for free by accelerating more. Or, build (or pay ~$40 for) a CAGS eliminator and never worry about it again.

As a Chevy man myself, I must say that Corvettes are, have been, and always will be obnoxious and sad.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: Marine1:

Depends. That "first to fourth" feature they had was annoying to my dad.

Easily eliminated for free by accelerating more. Or, build (or pay ~$40 for) a CAGS eliminator and never worry about it again.

If by "free" you mean "greatly increased fuel consumption".

And jailbreaking your Corvette is not an acceptable answer.

TheYeti:
I don't know...if it were my daily I might get slushbox. I get tired of clutching in traffic jams.

You sound fat...

GM did name a whole line after a euphemism for oral sex.

For $12k you can get a brand new vehicle that will do 200+ mph, with a couple of minor modifications.

tricycleracer:
If by "free" you mean "greatly increased fuel consumption".

And jailbreaking your Corvette is not an acceptable answer.

Oh noes, you mean a 'Vette owner has to drive aggressively? Whatever shall they do? I'm sure their primary reason for purchasing a 2-door sports car was Prius-like fuel economy.

I suppose paying a gas guzzler tax, like these fine vehicles come with, instead of including an easily defeatable electronic "nanny" is preferable to you?

"penis compensation" is just an excuse poor people use for not having cool stuff :P

It must suck when you're poor AND have a small dick....lol


Also the Vette is an awesome car, check em out in ALMS.

I had a stepdad in the 1970s who bought a split-window Stingray. The moron fell asleep while drunk driving and f*cked up the front end. He got it fixed, but what a dumbass.

I was never a big car person, but those vintage Corvettes are real purrty.

Skwishmitten: As a Chevy man myself, I must say that Corvettes are, have been, and always will be obnoxious and sad.

0/10

The C-5 was a milestone as a true user-friendly sports car. The well sorted out ones are fast, reliable, reasonably economical and rattle-free after 15 years. They have only gotten better since then.

Although I do miss the up-skirt views from the C-4s and earlier...

TheTeethoftheTiger: For the price you really can't buy a better performance car. A Z06 (500hp/470lbft) starts at 75.5K

I guess that depends on your notion of what counts in a performance car. If all you care about is power to weight and raw speed, sure. But if you start considering things like build quality and ride quality the allure of the Corvette starts to fall apart. Not to mention that if you like handling there are better handling cars for significantly cheaper.

Not that I have anything in particular against the Corvette, I just don't get the price argument. If you have that kind of scratch for a toy performance car is the "bargain bin" argument really going to sway you? If it comes down to it, I'd have a hard time walking away from an XF, S5, CTS-V, IS F or a number of AMGs at the same price or less in favor of a Vette. Hell, for ten grand more you can have an XK.

And if all you care about is raw performance you can do a lot better for a lot cheaper with a much less expensive car and a good mechanic on your side.

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: tricycleracer:
If by "free" you mean "greatly increased fuel consumption".

And jailbreaking your Corvette is not an acceptable answer.

Oh noes, you mean a 'Vette owner has to drive aggressively? Whatever shall they do? I'm sure their primary reason for purchasing a 2-door sports car was Prius-like fuel economy.

I suppose paying a gas guzzler tax, like these fine vehicles come with, instead of including an easily defeatable electronic "nanny" is preferable to you?

Because nobody has ever modified their vehicle before I guess? No filters, chips, twin turbos? So folks pan an entire Vette generation for an easily reversed electronic tweak that let GM up the HP and still maintain CAFE...Skip-shift goes away at 15% throttle; hardly "aggressive". Prius cars pull away at 15% throttle....

Turbo Cojones: Skwishmitten: As a Chevy man myself, I must say that Corvettes are, have been, and always will be obnoxious and sad.

0/10

The C-5 was a milestone as a true user-friendly sports car. The well sorted out ones are fast, reliable, reasonably economical and rattle-free after 15 years. They have only gotten better since then.

Although I do miss the up-skirt views from the C-4s and earlier...

I think:
There are pretentious douche-mobiles for balding, 50-something, midlife-crisis-having accountants who've never had anything nice before and think if the thing looks like an over-inflated Ferrari, it must be good. Wrong. I will admit that the 'Vettes from the 50's were pretty cool, but they lost any semblance to an actual sports car in the sixties and have only gotten further away from that with time.

/just my opinion though.
//YMMV

Skwishmitten: ThereThey are

FTFM

I love my penis compensator!

Cheron: GM did name a whole line after a euphemism for oral sex.

The Cunning Linguist?

My backpack's got jets.

For some people (like Subby), automatically thinking about - and possibly fantasizing about - the genitalia of the driver of a vehicle is normal.

The rest of us really don't give a shiat what you drive.

Skwishmitten: Turbo Cojones: Skwishmitten: As a Chevy man myself, I must say that Corvettes are, have been, and always will be obnoxious and sad.

0/10

The C-5 was a milestone as a true user-friendly sports car. The well sorted out ones are fast, reliable, reasonably economical and rattle-free after 15 years. They have only gotten better since then.

Although I do miss the up-skirt views from the C-4s and earlier...

I think:
There are pretentious douche-mobiles for balding, 50-something, midlife-crisis-having accountants who've never had anything nice before and think if the thing looks like an over-inflated Ferrari, it must be good. Wrong. I will admit that the 'Vettes from the 50's were pretty cool, but they lost any semblance to an actual sports car in the sixties and have only gotten further away from that with time.

/just my opinion though.
//YMMV

My opinion is that you have never lived with a C-5. They are very good automobiles.

if you think there's a prettier car than this, you're a dirty liar and a damned fool.

if you think there's a prettier car than this, you're a dirty liar and a damned fool.

I am neither, at least on this occasion. It is a pretty car, but it is not the prettiest. Even other vettes are prettier.




//my 67 chevy longbox, now that was pretty
/pretty ugly

Splinshints: I guess that depends on your notion of what counts in a performance car. If all you care about is power to weight and raw speed, sure. But if you start considering things like build quality and ride quality the allure of the Corvette starts to fall apart. Not to mention that if you like handling there are better handling cars for significantly cheaper.

Not that I have anything in particular against the Corvette, I just don't get the price argument. If you have that kind of scratch for a toy performance car is the "bargain bin" argument really going to sway you? If it comes down to it, I'd have a hard time walking away from an XF, S5, CTS-V, IS F or a number of AMGs at the same price or less in favor of a Vette. Hell, for ten grand more you can have an XK.

And if all you care about is raw performance you can do a lot better for a lot cheaper with a much less expensive car and a good mechanic on your side.

That's the thing, if you want a purpose built handling car you can go cheaper. If you want a purpose built muscle car, you can go cheaper. It's combing these things that increases the price point of a vehicle. Could you build up a WRX to best a base corvette. Yea. Probably. But not everyone trusts or is interested in a complete engine/suspension re-build to reach the level the corvette is at.

It's a good value if you want handling and performance in the same package.

Welcome to Costco...

escherblacksmith: if you think there's a prettier car than this, you're a dirty liar and a damned fool.

I am neither, at least on this occasion. It is a pretty car, but it is not the prettiest. Even other vettes are prettier.

Um, no. There are some Thunderbirds that come close, but I've got to go with EscherBlacksmith on this one.

dopeydwarf: Marine1: TheTeethoftheTiger: For the price you really can't buy a better performance car. A Z06 (500hp/470lbft) starts at 75.5K

That's 14k less than the GTR (also an awesome performance car).

The stock corvette is 50K.

Only gripes people have is with the build quality and refinement of the interior. But that stuff costs money, which would increase the price of the vette.

Other gripe is the usual casual (automatic) owners. They are both lame and driving it as a status symbol.

Depends. That "first to fourth" feature they had was annoying to my dad.


Skip shift can be disabled with a minor wiring mod.

Eh, I vaguely remember him having something like that done.

Still stupid that it was there in the first place.

DjangoStonereaver: Missing the early station wagon concept:

[www.vintagestationwagon.com image 400x250]

And as cool as the more recent 'Vettes are, to me they just aren't proper 'Vettes if they
don't have the flip-up headlights.

I like that a lot! Station wagons FTW!

Are they still gonna have a leaf-spring rear suspension, like a pick-up truck?

I took the headline too literally.

/disappointed?

Ant: DjangoStonereaver: Missing the early station wagon concept:
[www.vintagestationwagon.com image 400x250]
And as cool as the more recent 'Vettes are, to me they just aren't proper 'Vettes if they
don't have the flip-up headlights.
I like that a lot! Station wagons FTW!

I was doing a GIS for the Eckler Vette mod that was popular when I was a boy.



Then I came across this blasphemy. Now I have the sad.



At least it wasn't a '60-'62 model