For protection against those stab-happy trout, mind you. Has nothing to do with penis envy.

As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.

Makes sense. If those Asian carp ever got the chance they'd kill you and everyone you care about.

I think Dexter goes fishing this way.

Fishing in Florida? Don't forget to bring your gun C4

FTFY

UltimaCS: For protection against those stab-happy trout, mind you. Has nothing to do with penis envy.

Aside from showmanship like the article describes, it has quite a lot to do with lack of police protection on the waterways. You don't carry a handgun to defend against fish, snakes, or gators... you carry a handgun to defend against other boaters.

stuhayes2010: As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.

I agree! I am an avid outdoorsman, and I live in grizzly black bear and mountain lion country. And yet when I go to Albertsons I have yet to find an excuse to need any kind of firearm. Well except the creepy guy that runs the butcher block. He makes the homeless werewolf guy from Beavis and Butthead look normal.

fuzzwell: stuhayes2010: As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.


Youre right. Nothing bad ever happens in restaurants, or in normal stores. You just stick to BB&B. There's nothing dangerous in there anyhow, that is unless you consider a butcher's knife dangerous. (new window)

Unfortunately, that cool scenario you've daydreamed where you dispatch the gang of ruthless thugs at Publix with your trusty sidearm, thereby impressing the girl behind the meat counter is probably not going to happen. This is what happens when you fall asleep while watching "Cobra".

stuhayes2010: As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.

It depends on where I'm fishing. Some of the swamp people down there make Deliverence look civilized.

Rapmaster2000: Unfortunately, that cool scenario you've daydreamed where you dispatch the gang of ruthless thugs at Publix with your trusty sidearm, thereby impressing the girl behind the meat counter is probably not going to happen. This is what happens when you fall asleep while watching "Cobra".

I fail to understand why people always jump to the conclusion that CCW'ers have some kind of hero complex. I carry my pistol to protect me, not you.

wmoonfox: Aside from showmanship like the article describes, it has quite a lot to do with lack of police protection on the waterways. You don't carry a handgun to defend against fish, snakes, or gators... you carry a handgun to defend against other boaters.

THIS.

Shooting a snake with a handgun is tricky. Shooting a gator with a handgun will probably just piss it off.

For that matter, shooting anything with a handgun is tricky and of questionable effectiveness. You're better off with a shotgun.

fuzzwell: I live in constant fear of having a showdown with an armed maniac.

One of the reasons why people feel uneasy around gun nuts like you is that you're more likely to become one of those maniacs than save anyone from one.

wmoonfox: Rapmaster2000: Unfortunately, that cool scenario you've daydreamed where you dispatch the gang of ruthless thugs at Publix with your trusty sidearm, thereby impressing the girl behind the meat counter is probably not going to happen. This is what happens when you fall asleep while watching "Cobra".

I fail to understand why people always jump to the conclusion that CCW'ers have some kind of hero complex. I carry my pistol to protect me, not you.

Where in my narrative of your fantasy did you protect me? I am the evil thug who is out to get you. I could be anywhere. Watch out!

Rapmaster2000: Where in my narrative of your fantasy did you protect me? I am the evil thug who is out to get you. I could be anywhere. Watch out!

Oh, so now it's my fantasy? Classy....

/ignore

wmoonfox: Rapmaster2000: Where in my narrative of your fantasy did you protect me? I am the evil thug who is out to get you. I could be anywhere. Watch out!

Oh, so now it's my fantasy? Classy....

/ignore

Everyone knows that gun nuts have these fantasies. It's why you're a gun nut. If you were a normal person and weren't imagining scenarios in which people are out to get you then you wouldn't be a gun nut. Your friends and coworkers all know this about you.

clyph: wmoonfox: Aside from showmanship like the article describes, it has quite a lot to do with lack of police protection on the waterways. You don't carry a handgun to defend against fish, snakes, or gators... you carry a handgun to defend against other boaters.

THIS.

Shooting a snake with a handgun is tricky. Shooting a gator with a handgun will probably just piss it off.

For that matter, shooting anything with a handgun is tricky and of questionable effectiveness. You're better off with a shotgun.

So trying to ban handguns, or severely restrict them, would be counter productive, because if you *COULD* actually reduce the number of handguns in circulation, criminals would resort to more powerful and more effective long guns.

My mother's father always carried a pistol with snakeshot loads. He lost a finger to a northern pike when he was young.

Dimensio: wmoonfox: Rapmaster2000: Unfortunately, that cool scenario you've daydreamed where you dispatch the gang of ruthless thugs at Publix with your trusty sidearm, thereby impressing the girl behind the meat counter is probably not going to happen. This is what happens when you fall asleep while watching "Cobra".

I fail to understand why people always jump to the conclusion that CCW'ers have some kind of hero complex. I carry my pistol to protect me, not you.

I believe that "psychological projection" may be an adequate term for describing the mindset that results in such conclusions.

I think it's cool on Fark how argumentative memes rise and fall in popularity. We'll go through a period where everyone is accusing everyone else of strawmanning, and then last month we had a period where the "no true scotsman" was the fallacy of choice.

Projection as an accusation started a few months ago on the Politics tab when liberals and conservatives were attempting to sort out who the real racist is. So now it gets overused like in your scenario where it doesn't make sense.

Dimensio:
Everyone knows that gun nuts have these fantasies. It's why you're a gun nut. If you were a normal person and weren't imagining scenarios in which people are out to get you then you wouldn't be a gun nut. Your friends and coworkers all know this about you.

I believe that you have confused unsubstantiated assertion with demonstration of fact. While advocates of unreasonable restriction on civilian firearm ownership and usage frequently confuse the two concepts, those concepts are not actually synonymous.

While this is true, it's not always accurate. For example, while I have no real ability to understand the motivations of all people who seem to have made CC their life's work, the guy who's posting this "Youre right. Nothing bad ever happens in restaurants, or in normal stores. You just stick to BB&B. There's nothing dangerous in there anyhow, that is unless you consider a butcher's knife dangerous. (new window)" and linking us the Luby's Massacre as an eventuality that the average person needs to prepare for is not likely in that group.

cbackous: UltimaCS: For protection against those stab-happy trout, mind you. Has nothing to do with penis envy.

Oh wonderful, another "guns compensate for penis" comment.

One really wonders about the sexual development of people who reflexively run to the "guns as substitute penis" argument. Seems to me that only a very immature person would seriously advance that argument. If you see a gun and think "penis", seems to me that you'll see a penis in just about anything.

stuhayes2010: As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.

If the first amendment allows you to hold and spout any damn fool opinion you might have where ever you might be (like oh say, on fark), then the second amendment allows me to carry a sidearm when shopping for window treatments.

OK CSB time.

I hunted quite a bit as a teenager. A friend and I were Dove hunting one day and weren't seeing any birds. We ended up shooting pine cones floating in a pond and then my buddy got the bright idea to shoot fish in the pond. He kept missing, and I had to explain to him that he had to aim low because he was shooting at the surface reflection of the fish.

Anyway, he sees a nice fat bream and decides he wants to use my shotgun, since it was a full choke and his was a modified. My gun was a single shot and I carried it with the breech open. So when he asked for my gun, I slipped the bird shot out and slipped in a high brass 00 Buck. I closed the breech and handed it to him. "She's loaded and ready to rock."

Long story short, he ended up with a big bruise on his shoulder, and my shotgun ended up laying in the dirt. He did get his fish though.

The Florida law actually makes sense: In a habitat where there are numerous poisonous snakes, large constrictors (which, btw, are fair game: You can shoot them on sight, as they are an invasive species), and alligators, being allowed to carry a firearm while fishing makes sense.

Dimensio:

Have you an alternative hypothesis to explain the propensity for the frequent dishonest and baseless universal attribution of false motives to advocates of civilian firearm ownership rights by opponents of such freedoms?

No, but I don't really need to. I don't make any of the accusations I've leveled against wmoonfox or fuzzwell against myself or against you.

Amen, brother. I don't go anywhere without my mutated anthrax ... [He takes a vial of the stuff out of his pocket.] ... for duck hunting.


/hot like a WMD

Rapmaster2000: Dimensio: wmoonfox: Rapmaster2000: Unfortunately, that cool scenario you've daydreamed where you dispatch the gang of ruthless thugs at Publix with your trusty sidearm, thereby impressing the girl behind the meat counter is probably not going to happen. This is what happens when you fall asleep while watching "Cobra".

I fail to understand why people always jump to the conclusion that CCW'ers have some kind of hero complex. I carry my pistol to protect me, not you.

I believe that "psychological projection" may be an adequate term for describing the mindset that results in such conclusions.

I think it's cool on Fark how argumentative memes rise and fall in popularity. We'll go through a period where everyone is accusing everyone else of strawmanning, and then last month we had a period where the "no true scotsman" was the fallacy of choice.

Projection as an accusation started a few months ago on the Politics tab when liberals and conservatives were attempting to sort out who the real racist is. So now it gets overused like in your scenario where it doesn't make sense.

You sound like your new around here. Maybe a little fat, as well.

Dimensio: dittybopper: If you see a gun and think "penis", seems to me that you'll see a penis in just about anything.

Any individual who believes that a firearm serves the same function as does a penis understands the function of neither.

Well to be fair, if handled properly, they both can blast someone in the face.

dittybopper

The Florida law actually makes sense: In a habitat where there are numerous poisonous snakes, large constrictors (which, btw, are fair game: You can shoot them on sight, as they are an invasive species), and alligators, being allowed to carry a firearm while fishing makes sense.

Thanks for demonstrating you don't have a farking clue what you're talking about.

You can carry most anywhere. You can Open Carry while fishing. This is why grabber arguments fail. They're always based on half-truths and flat out lies.

I'm not familiar w/ FL's hunting laws but I'd bet a doughnut "shoot on sight" isn't on the books either.

Dimensio: Rapmaster2000: Dimensio:

Have you an alternative hypothesis to explain the propensity for the frequent dishonest and baseless universal attribution of false motives to advocates of civilian firearm ownership rights by opponents of such freedoms?

No, but I don't really need to. I don't make any of the accusations I've leveled against wmoonfox or fuzzwell against myself or against you.

Then you are saying now that you lied when you previously claimed that "Everyone knows that gun nuts have these fantasies. "?

Are you a gun nut? I'm not. I support CC, but it's not because I think anyone is out to get me or because there's any likelihood that I'll be involved in a scenario where I'll need it. When you start talking about "needing to protect yourself" or the possibility of getting shot at a salad bar then you've veered into nut territory.

The likelihood of you or I "needing" a gun in our day-to-day is extremely low. To posit that it's likely that you will is gun nuttery.

Dimensio: Rapmaster2000: The likelihood of you or I "needing" a gun in our day-to-day is extremely low.

I observe few individuals asserting a certainty of "need".

And those are the ones that I mocked as gun nuts. We're all good here.

biatch wouldn't have stole my fish

OnlyM3: I'm not familiar w/ FL's hunting laws but I'd bet a doughnut "shoot on sight" isn't on the books either.

My bad, there is actually a *SEASON* for them, and you have to apply for a permit, which costs money. What Florida *SHOULD* do is establish a bounty for Burmese Pythons, maybe $50 or $100 per snake.

Florida's mistake is that they are treating the issue like regulated sport hunting, which generally results in an increase in targeted animal populations, when they should be treating it like unregulated market hunting, which almost always results in decimating the targeted population. In other words, it's a perverse policy if the goal is to actually eradicate the Burmese Python from the Everglades.

OnlyM3: dittybopper

The Florida law actually makes sense: In a habitat where there are numerous poisonous snakes, large constrictors (which, btw, are fair game: You can shoot them on sight, as they are an invasive species), and alligators, being allowed to carry a firearm while fishing makes sense.

Thanks for demonstrating you don't have a farking clue what you're talking about.

You can carry most anywhere. You can Open Carry while fishing. This is why grabber arguments fail. They're always based on half-truths and flat out lies.

I'm not familiar w/ FL's hunting laws but I'd bet a doughnut "shoot on sight" isn't on the books either.

Oh, and, erm, you're not really familiar with my position on gun rights, are you?

clyph: Shooting a snake with a handgun is tricky.

.38 loaded with birdshot works quite nicely.

stuhayes2010: As a hunter and fisherman, I'll never understand these farktards that need to have agun everywhere they go. Yes, have a gun with you when in the wilderness with animals that can attack/kill you. But these people that think the second ammendment applies to taking a pistol into Bed Bath & Beyond I have no time for.

Unfortunately, many (all?) large U.S. cities have become places where (supposedly) human animals regularly attack/kill those not of their race. Sad but true.