that's a bit advanced for a bunch of inbred redneck tea party koch suckers. plus it takes a bit of planning to set something like that up.

hmm....still, that's not outside the abilities of one or two dedicated assholes who had a weekend free and just wanted to be pricks towards the recall effort.

sinschild: You know as well as I do that technological skill is not exclusive to any political ideology.

I never said it was....i'm just not sure this is part of any sort of larger effort by the WI republicans to stop the recall effort. it could very well be a one off independent operation from a couple of technologically skilled assholes.

sinschild: Although a bunch of "inbred koch suckers" as you put it would certainly have the means and motive to hire some top tier talent if they thought it would buy them an advantage.

My read on Team Walker is that they wouldn't mess around with sneaky hacker mojo, they'd just go beat the snot out of anyone carrying a petition, then throw them in jail when they file a complaint.

sinschild: Possible. Workers direct action causes seem to bring out the most passionate and illogical in both it's supporters and enemies. A goodly number of the deadliest and most destructive clashes have happened because of that very thing..

yeah, but there's been a LOT of stories out of WI about the local GOP cheating like motherf*ckers when it comes to these elections. Even if you want to discard the (admittedly circumstantial) reports of Republical skullduggery, there's still enough documented evidence of WI GOP asshattery to make even me consider asking for the UN to step in and oversee the recall voting.

sinschild: Do we not have a FEC? Their nuts fall off in the last few years or something? Or are you trying to say there is no one left unbiased or untainted in American Politics?

lets just say that i've seen enough evidence to make me wonder just how secure our elections really are...i'm not saying things are rigged, i'm saying that I question the security procedures and audit trail on how votes get counted and think we could do a better job.

But we're drifting off topic. I wonder how the Walker apologists in liter land will handle this one?

Weaver95: I wonder how the Walker apologists in liter land will handle this one?

Oh, that's easy. The Recall Walker group executed a DDoS attack on their own servers, to boost their publicity and sympathy and make the GOP look bad.

You watch, someone's actually going to use this.

Just saw that 4 chan's boards are down due to ddos.

Radioactive Ass: some.old.lady.: Just saw that 4 chan's boards are down due to ddos.

Why do you go to 4Chan? You can get all of the granny pr0n you want just by flashing yourself in a mirror...

Heheh, I took down the mirrors in my house a looong time ago ;)

This was my first visit to 4chan; I have heard it being dissed around here, and thought I'd check it out.

Jim_Callahan: A Dark Evil Omen: Well, that's a hell of a strange guess and isn't actually borne out in reality. But, hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.

Huh... didn't realize that saying that a "recall [whatever politician]" site with geocities-style formatting was probably fully capable of failing on its own without a DDOS would provoke that strong a denial.

There's no win for Righty here. Either the site is so popular that it's getting crushed, or it has some RW punkass scared enough to run a DDOS.
End of story.

Don't forget about the GOP planning to shred signatures (new window). There's also this little gem where they discuss intimidation of recall workers and retaliation against people that sign the petition. (new window) I also love how the right-wing talking point is that this whole recall movement is people from outside WI, when they are sending false information from out of state about the recall to registered democrats in WI (new window).

And before any of you baggers come in and say "isolated incident" or some other crap, some of these posters have already been outed as board members of tea party chapters around WI. There's a lot more of this, some worse than what those links show. I can't find the article right now, but there was a whole thread where people were discussing things like "these recall workers are gonna have a rough time with the new cc law," and "so with the new law, if I get them to come into the house, they're an intruder, right?" The new cc law is concealed carry. The other new law they speak of refers to a clarification that an intruder in your home can be killed without fear of legal repercussions, commonly known as "castle laws" in some areas. By the way, the State Attorney's Office was against this law, not because they will no longer be able to bring charges to someone who kills an intruder, but because they have never filed charges against someone who killed an intruder in self-defense. They warned that it would be used to lure people into a home with the intention of murdering them without fear of consequence. The example they used was primarily robbery motive or ex-spouse coming over to get the kids for the weekend kinda stuff, but they warned that people would find ways to use this law for something very bad.

Tchiak: Would it be ironic if the tools used to DDOS the website were the same tools Anon provided to DDOS the websites of companies they didn't agree with?

/Give the masses an easy to use point and click tool is like giving the masses a loaded gun
//You don't know who will use it for what purpose, but you can bet it someone will turn a gun on the things you may love.
///I am not stating that Anon loves the Recall election.
////Loaded firearm to child kinda scenario.

That's something that the GOP did here recently. I'm not against cc in WI, in fact it's been voted in favor of it on at least two ballots. One of those was the 2008 presidential election, so there was good voter turnout. The bad thing is they removed the requirement that you get training before receiving your permit. People need certification before they can cut someone's hair at a barber shop. I don't see why making sure people have some minimum training before they carry a loaded firearm in public is so bad. Apparently Walker&Friends do.

/The requirement was a 4 hour training session before they eliminated that.
//Hunter's safety is over 10 hours by way of comparison.

Well. it's kind of moot - the recall will go through, and I don't think Walker cares. He accomplished his REAL mission - the passage of the law that will allow the Koch Bros. to buy up the states assets at pennies on the dollar, without any oversight.
I am sure Walker's rewards already await him, without regard to when or under what circumstances he leaves office.