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(Starpulse) Cool "Glee" star Lauren Potter is down with President Obama's Committee for People With Intellectual Disabilities   (starpulse.com) divider line 65
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Lord Jubjub [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:07:36 PM
Time to pop some popcorn. . .
 
abb3w [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:19:29 PM
Lord Jubjub: Time to pop some popcorn. . .

Let me know when you've finished so we can start the Republican and/or Democrat jokes.
 
feckingmorons [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:37:00 PM
I think President Obama is doing an admirable job with the Committee which was stated by President Kennedy.

Those differently abled should be allowed exercise their talents and be productive members of society. Appointing this young woman is a positive step in showing what a meaningful contribution we can all make.
 
Lorelle [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:46:09 PM
I'm sure that the Teabaggers will find some reason to criticize Obama about this.

extremely slow pitch
 
Peter von Nostrand [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:52:39 PM
Meh, subtle. Maybe. Well, not really
 
ThisNameSux
2011-11-14 08:53:03 PM
I'd hit it.
 
Apos [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:59:39 PM
She certainly doesn't seem like a Paris Hilton,Kim Kardashian or Lindsay Lohan,so why the "people with intellectual disabilities" label?
 
Pants full of macaroni!! [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 08:59:59 PM
Well that tears it. I'm never watching Glee again.

/"whadya mean, 'again'?"
 
redking194
2011-11-14 09:00:06 PM
Can she count to potato?
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:05:22 PM
Semi-related CSB: I was watching an interview with John c. McGinley last night (Cox from Scrubs) on the whole "Spread the Word to End the Word" campaign and I think he won me over.

I realize this is Fark and all, so I'll probably be accused of being an oversensitive commie-pinko-PC-Nazi, but I kind of feel like "retard" or "retarded" as a slang is rather offensive. Even if the intent isn't there, you're still making people with disabilities (and their families) feel less than human and that knowledge is enough to make me feel like crap.

/Cue "cry some moar," etc.
//Boo hoo hoooo.
///Will stand by my position.
 
bigbearchaseme
2011-11-14 09:12:45 PM
FerneJohn: Semi-related CSB: I was watching an interview with John c. McGinley last night (Cox from Scrubs) on the whole "Spread the Word to End the Word" campaign and I think he won me over.

I realize this is Fark and all, so I'll probably be accused of being an oversensitive commie-pinko-PC-Nazi, but I kind of feel like "retard" or "retarded" as a slang is rather offensive. Even if the intent isn't there, you're still making people with disabilities (and their families) feel less than human and that knowledge is enough to make me feel like crap.

/Cue "cry some moar," etc.
//Boo hoo hoooo.
///Will stand by my position.

people with disabilities (and their families) aren't capable of considering intent and context? or some just choose not to?
 
HotIgneous Intruder
2011-11-14 09:12:47 PM
FerneJohn: Semi-related CSB: I was watching an interview with John c. McGinley last night (Cox from Scrubs) on the whole "Spread the Word to End the Word" campaign and I think he won me over.

I realize this is Fark and all, so I'll probably be accused of being an oversensitive commie-pinko-PC-Nazi, but I kind of feel like "retard" or "retarded" as a slang is rather offensive. Even if the intent isn't there, you're still making people with disabilities (and their families) feel less than human and that knowledge is enough to make me feel like crap.

/Cue "cry some moar," etc.
//Boo hoo hoooo.
///Will stand by my position.

How about "spastic" ?
 
rynthetyn [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 09:14:42 PM
Apos: She certainly doesn't seem like a Paris Hilton,Kim Kardashian or Lindsay Lohan,so why the "people with intellectual disabilities" label?

Thread over, you win.
 
ecmoRandomNumbers [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 09:21:13 PM
feckingmorons: I think President Obama is doing an admirable job with the Committee which was stated by President Kennedy.

Those differently abled should be allowed exercise their talents and be productive members of society. Appointing this young woman is a positive step in showing what a meaningful contribution we can all make.

And once in a great, great while, you say something I agree with. I've seen some parts of the show and the scenes with her and Jane Lynch are hilarious.
 
feckingmorons [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 09:21:32 PM
FerneJohn: Semi-related CSB: I was watching an interview with John c. McGinley last night (Cox from Scrubs) on the whole "Spread the Word to End the Word" campaign and I think he won me over.

I realize this is Fark and all, so I'll probably be accused of being an oversensitive commie-pinko-PC-Nazi, but I kind of feel like "retard" or "retarded" as a slang is rather offensive. Even if the intent isn't there, you're still making people with disabilities (and their families) feel less than human and that knowledge is enough to make me feel like crap.

/Cue "cry some moar," etc.
//Boo hoo hoooo.
///Will stand by my position.

My uncle Jim, greatest guy in the world in my opinion, was mentally retarded, but that was back in the 50's. The stigma was not there at the time. I'm all for developmentally disabled, or whatever the current term is. The word retarded does have a specific meaning, and it fit the bill, but since it became a playground slur it is no longer used. Sooner or later whatever term we use will have the same problem.

The thing is the people that are retarded know they are different, and they know that is OK. My uncle Jim was the happiest guy I ever met. I am honored to be his nephew.
 
Ogre840
2011-11-14 09:23:50 PM
retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...
 
MrEricSir
2011-11-14 09:25:02 PM
Lorelle: I'm sure that the Teabaggers will find some reason to criticize Obama about this.

Why? This is the first time he's actually paid attention to their group.
 
BroVinny
2011-11-14 09:27:40 PM
Obama needs a whole committee to deal with his personal problems?

/not surprised
 
ditkaman
2011-11-14 09:29:02 PM
I can't imagine us Tea Party people having a problem with this. If anything she is a harder working, more productive member of society than the fleabaggers on Wall Street.
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:30:27 PM
bigbearchaseme: people with disabilities (and their families) aren't capable of considering intent and context? or some just choose not to?

When you're talking about people with Down Syndrome, especially kids, I'm skeptical that they understand the nuance.

With other slurs (against gay people, or black people, or whomever), the "victim" is typically capable of standing up for himself and understands context if it's a joke, etc, but when it's a mentally disabled person, you're sort of picking on the weakest of the weak and the most innocent of the bunch.
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:32:47 PM
Ogre840: retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...

"Idiot" and "imbecile" used to be vanilla medical terms as well, but if you used those in reference to someone who was mentally slow, you'd get punched in the face.

"Negro" is technically a correct definition too, but good luck "taking that back." Words change over time in a society.
 
Bungles
2011-11-14 09:43:04 PM
This is like putting someone who can't count on a committee to help people who can't count, count.
 
BroVinny
2011-11-14 09:43:55 PM
Bungles: This is like putting someone who can't count on a committee to help people who can't count, count.

The blonde leading the blonde?
 
All_Farked_Up
2011-11-14 09:44:19 PM
Seems like the CPID had it's big win in 2000 & 2008
 
watson.t.hamster
2011-11-14 09:48:50 PM
FerneJohn: Ogre840: retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...

"Idiot" and "imbecile" used to be vanilla medical terms as well, but if you used those in reference to someone who was mentally slow, you'd get punched in the face.

"Negro" is technically a correct definition too, but good luck "taking that back." Words change over time in a society.

Good luck getting in to college using words like that!
 
Ogre840
2011-11-14 09:51:00 PM
FerneJohn: Ogre840: retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...

"Idiot" and "imbecile" used to be vanilla medical terms as well, but if you used those in reference to someone who was mentally slow, you'd get punched in the face.

"Negro" is technically a correct definition too, but good luck "taking that back." Words change over time in a society.

Ok we'll stop using it in music, and the automotive industry too. Don't want any "intellectually disabled" people entering those fields and having their feelings hurt when they come across a word.
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:56:17 PM
Ogre840: Ok we'll stop using it in music, and the automotive industry too. Don't want any "intellectually disabled" people entering those fields and having their feelings hurt when they come across a word.

What the Christ are you even talking about?
 
Ogre840
2011-11-14 09:57:23 PM
FerneJohn: Ogre840: Ok we'll stop using it in music, and the automotive industry too. Don't want any "intellectually disabled" people entering those fields and having their feelings hurt when they come across a word.

What the Christ are you even talking about?

That it's just a god damned word, it only hurts people if they let it hurt them.

/Cracker
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:57:36 PM
watson.t.hamster: FerneJohn: Ogre840: retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...

"Idiot" and "imbecile" used to be vanilla medical terms as well, but if you used those in reference to someone who was mentally slow, you'd get punched in the face.

"Negro" is technically a correct definition too, but good luck "taking that back." Words change over time in a society.

Good luck getting in to college using words like that!

Don't be cute and play dumb. Walk up to a black dude and call him a "negro." At best, you'll get a raised eyebrow.
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 09:58:29 PM
Ogre840: FerneJohn: Ogre840: Ok we'll stop using it in music, and the automotive industry too. Don't want any "intellectually disabled" people entering those fields and having their feelings hurt when they come across a word.

What the Christ are you even talking about?

That it's just a god damned word, it only hurts people if they let it hurt them.

/Cracker

You really think a 10-year-old with Down Syndrome is that tough and smart?
 
mjbok
2011-11-14 10:03:51 PM
FerneJohn: You really think a 10-year-old with Down Syndrome is that tough and smart?

Yes. The phrase (PC or not) "Retard Strength" exists for a reason.
 
bigbearchaseme
2011-11-14 10:04:33 PM
you give the word "retarded" the power to hurt when you constantly talk about how hurtful it is regardless of intent or context. stop doing that.
 
FerneJohn
2011-11-14 10:12:38 PM
bigbearchaseme: you give the word "retarded" the power to hurt when you constantly talk about how hurtful it is regardless of intent or context. stop doing that.

Words have meaning. I can't change that simply by waving my hand or refusing to acknowledge it.

Calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" is not going to stop being hurtful to them anymore than "fire" is going to stop implying "hot."
 
feckingmorons [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 10:14:43 PM
mjbok: FerneJohn: You really think a 10-year-old with Down Syndrome is that tough and smart?

Yes. The phrase (PC or not) "Retard Strength" exists for a reason.

I've never heard that phrase. It seems like it was coined by those with no interaction with people with delayed mental development. It is sad they never got to know anyone who likes you just because you are you and took a minute to say hello. There is a young woman on my street who is developmentally disabled, she waves as we drive home from work. Her smile and wave always make me smile no matter how bad my day has been. Think of it, people who have a hard time hating. Maybe it is us who are 'retarded'.

I think we are off the topic here. President Obama appointed a fantastic young woman to an important post where she can indeed make a difference.

Let's give the guy credit for that. It is something for which everyone can support our president. The guy has a tough job, give him a thumbs up now and then.
 
Ogre840
2011-11-14 10:15:54 PM
FerneJohn: bigbearchaseme: you give the word "retarded" the power to hurt when you constantly talk about how hurtful it is regardless of intent or context. stop doing that.

Words have meaning. I can't change that simply by waving my hand or refusing to acknowledge it.

Calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" is not going to stop being hurtful to them anymore than "fire" is going to stop implying "hot."

If they can understand the word, and know the hurtful connotation, then yes. If they can't understand it, or know the hurtful connotation, then it holds no power over them.

Or they could just not care, like us Crackers.
 
bigbearchaseme
2011-11-14 10:23:54 PM
FerneJohn:
Calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" is not going to stop being hurtful to them anymore than "fire" is going to stop implying "hot."

calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" isn't cool. that's meant to hurt.

using the word "retard" or "retarded" (something John C. McGinley wants us to stop doing regardless of intent) is completely retarded.
 
Mad_Radhu
2011-11-14 10:40:03 PM
Meh, I think the mongoloid from American Horror Story would have been a better choice.
 
wildcardjack
2011-11-14 10:53:35 PM
Sometimes its good to see Obama reaching across the aisles to support people like Rick Perry.
 
mjbok
2011-11-14 10:56:35 PM
feckingmorons: I've never heard that phrase.

There's 7.5 million google hits for it, so it's out there.

You're right about your story about seeing someone when you're driving by. I used to tutor special needs kids in high school so I know what you're talking about. Granted this was a long time ago, but the word was used often then, and was used by them a ton.

I think the problem with the PC aspect of this is 99.9% of the time when someone uses some form of that phrase there is no intent to belittle or insult someone who is handicapped. Intent IS important. This isn't equivalent to the dreaded N word, because outside of the black community it is nearly always meant as an insult to black people.
 
watson.t.hamster
2011-11-14 11:06:51 PM
FerneJohn: watson.t.hamster: FerneJohn: Ogre840: retard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Origin
re·tard
[ri-tahrd, for 1-3, 5; ree-tahrd for 4] Show IPA
verb (used with object)
1.
to make slow; delay the development or progress of (an action, process, etc.); hinder or impede.
verb (used without object)
2.
to be delayed.

Seems perfect for those that are mentally slow, or lack developmental abilities...

"Idiot" and "imbecile" used to be vanilla medical terms as well, but if you used those in reference to someone who was mentally slow, you'd get punched in the face.

"Negro" is technically a correct definition too, but good luck "taking that back." Words change over time in a society.

Good luck getting in to college using words like that!

Don't be cute and play dumb. Walk up to a black dude and call him a "negro." At best, you'll get a raised eyebrow.

Relax francis. I wasn't really arguing against your point, just having fun with the whole "negro is not acceptable anymore" statement.

I think the word "retard" is accurate and all but it would be in poor taste to actually call someone with downs syndrome that term. Like calling someone in a wheelchair "cripple". It's accurate, but their lives are probably rough enough, no need to rub it in. Smacks of "kicking someone when they're down". Which most of us learned was poor manners in gradeschool.
 
DarthBrooks [TotalFark]
2011-11-14 11:28:08 PM
Apparently the correct term is "Special Olympics."
 
Ogre840
2011-11-14 11:29:42 PM
watson.t.hamster:

I think the word "retard" is accurate and all but it would be in poor taste to actually call someone with downs syndrome that term. Like calling someone in a wheelchair "cripple". It's accurate, but their lives are probably rough enough, no need to rub it in. Smacks of "kicking someone when they're down". Which most of us learned was poor manners in gradeschool.

I used to take care of a quadriplegic that went by the nickname "Cripple" in a sort of ironic/taking it back kind of way. Some people still have a sense of humor at least.
 
Susan'sLittleAdamsApple
2011-11-14 11:31:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDlf6hA6TY

So what if they made one a spokesman, this one has been handling real work for today's society.
 
BroVinny
2011-11-14 11:36:18 PM
Ogre840: watson.t.hamster:

I think the word "retard" is accurate and all but it would be in poor taste to actually call someone with downs syndrome that term. Like calling someone in a wheelchair "cripple". It's accurate, but their lives are probably rough enough, no need to rub it in. Smacks of "kicking someone when they're down". Which most of us learned was poor manners in gradeschool.

I used to take care of a quadriplegic that went by the nickname "Cripple" in a sort of ironic/taking it back kind of way. Some people still have a sense of humor at least.

Could've put him in a doorway and called him "Matt".
 
if_i_really_have_to
2011-11-14 11:50:06 PM
Ogre840: watson.t.hamster:

I think the word "retard" is accurate and all but it would be in poor taste to actually call someone with downs syndrome that term. Like calling someone in a wheelchair "cripple". It's accurate, but their lives are probably rough enough, no need to rub it in. Smacks of "kicking someone when they're down". Which most of us learned was poor manners in gradeschool.

I used to take care of a quadriplegic that went by the nickname "Cripple" in a sort of ironic/taking it back kind of way. Some people still have a sense of humor at least.

One of my friends has gone with "Gimpy" (can't go with "gimp" because of the other meanings of it).
 
moothemagiccow
2011-11-15 12:03:55 AM
POCPWID? horrible acronym
 
foo monkey
2011-11-15 12:04:54 AM
I'm pissed the Downs girl from American Horror Story was killed off. I know we haven't seen the last of her, but, DAMN, she was awesome in that role.
 
Oysterman
2011-11-15 12:34:40 AM
bigbearchaseme: FerneJohn:
Calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" is not going to stop being hurtful to them anymore than "fire" is going to stop implying "hot."

calling a mentally disabled person a "retard" isn't cool. that's meant to hurt.

using the word "retard" or "retarded" (something John C. McGinley wants us to stop doing regardless of intent) is completely retarded.

Yeah, FerneJohn, stop being gay.

/"Gay" never stopped implying happy, right?
 
Mad_Radhu
2011-11-15 12:42:22 AM
foo monkey: I'm pissed the Downs girl from American Horror Story was killed off. I know we haven't seen the last of her, but, DAMN, she was awesome in that role.

She didn't make it to the lawn of the Murder House, so she's probably not going to be haunting the house. The conversation with the medium last episode also seemed to confirm that her soul has permanently moved on.

/That show is such a guilty pleasure
 
gunsmack [TotalFark]
2011-11-15 12:51:09 AM
FerneJohn: Don't be cute and play dumb. .

The National Association of Hearing and Speech Disabled Persons would prefer you not use that word, you retard.
 
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