How the f*ck did that guy make it past Major?

Republican Rep. Allen West

I am thoroughly surprised.

"If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding. I think it was very effective. It gained information for our country," Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) had said during the debate, knocking Obama for being too soft on terrorism suspects.



Excuse me.. point of order?

Relatively Obscure: "If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding. I think it was very effective. It gained information for our country," Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) had said during the debate, knocking Obama for being too soft on terrorism suspects.

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Excuse me.. point of order?

Apparently, Bachmann thinks we should've tortured him before we shot him in the face.

Relatively Obscure: Excuse me.. point of order?

Don't you listen to the radio? The only reason we got Osama was because of the water-boarding Bush had done 8 years ago.

"Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."



this is a parody, right? he's joking around, right? please?

"The president is the benefactor of a lot of information that came from waterboarding," said West on Fox News. "Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."

And you know what, we use it on the military to show them what it's like to be captured by an evil dictatorship with no respect for the Geneva convention.

We have become what we have been fighting against.

Weaver95: this is a parody, right? he's joking around, right? please?

No. They honestly think because we do it in SERE to prepare pilots and Special Operators for what they might go through if captured, that makes it perfectly legal and moral to perform on suspects.

We also gas recruits to give them a reason to learn how to properly and quickly don their mask. Should we also gas people until they give us some bullsh*t story about how they started the Chicago Fire?

It's not a logical reason, they just got caught doing some awful shiat and are looking for examples and reasons to explain why they did it and should continue doing it. It's like when you were 5 and Dad asked you why to threw the cat off the deck. "Well, Dad, gravity is just a theory and I was trying it out. They do it on cartoons, so that means it's ok!"

Rep. Allen is a f*cking toolbox and I called his office to ask him to stop f*cking using "Steadfast and Loyal" to sign off his insane rants. He's an embarrassment to 4th ID and the U.S. Army in general.

What do you expect from people who think "Red Dawn" is a documentary?

Just that the question over whether or not we should torture is up for debate is pretty abhorrent.

Weaver95: "Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."



this is a parody, right? he's joking around, right? please?

If I told you that Scalia mentioned 24 during oral argument in a Supreme Court case about torture, would you believe me?

Representative Allan West disgusts me. He's the most imbecilic pathetic excuse for an American that I've seen in the U.S. Congress. He takes politics personally, he doesn't bother to research his positions, and he seems to toss absolute lunacy out at regular intervals. I can't imagine what the people that vote for him are thinking when they cast their ballots.

Furthermore, in real life, American POWs were waterboarded by the Japanese in WWII, and the officers who gave the orders were tried and convicted of torture in the Tokyo War Crimes Trials and sentenced to 15+ years of hard labor or more (including execution).

Oh, but it's only wrong when it's done to Americans. It's totally fine when it's done by Americans!

Ah....American Exceptionalism.

Awesome, amirite "conservatives?"

WHAT THE FARK IS WRONG WITH YOU REPUBLICANS???

FishyFred: If I told you that Scalia mentioned 24 during oral argument in a Supreme Court case about torture, would you believe me?

I'd hope that you were exaggerating and that SCOTUS wasn't basing it's decisions (even in part) on a TV show.

"The president is the benefactor of a lot of information that came from waterboarding," said West on Fox News. "Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."



c'mon...this HAS to be a mis-quote or parody or something. He can't be this f*cking stupid.

I remember hearing talk radio jocks go on about how it works in "24," so it should totally work in real life.

SphericalTime: I can't imagine w that the people that vote for him are thinking when they cast their ballots.

FTFY?

Weaver95: FishyFred: If I told you that Scalia mentioned 24 during oral argument in a Supreme Court case about torture, would you believe me?

I'd hope that you were exaggerating and that SCOTUS wasn't basing it's decisions (even in part) on a TV show.

I guess my memory is a bit rusty. It was at a conference in Canada, not during argument.

Weaver95: "The president is the benefactor of a lot of information that came from waterboarding," said West on Fox News. "Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."



c'mon...this HAS to be a mis-quote or parody or something. He can't be this f*cking stupid.

He's not...his audience is.

Shostie: I remember hearing talk radio jocks go on about how it works in "24," so it should totally work in real life.

I still want to waterboard Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. no real reason, I just think it'd give them a better understanding of the whole waterboarding issue.

Weaver95: Shostie: I remember hearing talk radio jocks go on about how it works in "24," so it should totally work in real life.

I still want to waterboard Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. no real reason, I just think it'd give them a better understanding of the whole waterboarding issue.

I think it was actually some local retards, but I wouldn't put it past Rush or Glenn to echo the sentiment.

"Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."

On top of that, in G.I Jane, the commanding officer tried to rape her, because that might happen as a torture technique if she were captured... so she needed that experience as part of her "survival, escape and resistance training"

So he is condoning the rape of female service members as part of their training, as well as the rape of prisoners in order to get information. Hell, why stop with the women, men in prison or captivity get raped all the time. All service members thusly should be raped as part of their "survival, escape and resistance training"... right?

Weaver95: this is a parody, right? he's joking around, right? please?

Shostie: I think it was actually some local retards, but I wouldn't put it past Rush or Glenn to echo the sentiment.

I think anyone who thinks waterboarding is 'harmless' needs to experience it first hand. I'm completely serious - we'll do it under controlled conditions and they can 'tap out' and we'll stop whenever they hit their limit...but anyone who thinks waterboarding isn't torture needs to experience it first hand. Then once they recover, we can revisit the issue and see if they still think it's not toturture.

miss diminutive: Can't the US just avoid the whole controversy and switch to tickling suspected terrorists for info? Being tickled to the point of manic breathlessness is scary and traumatizing, but you're laughing - so that pesky Geneva Convention bs doesn't apply, right?

YOU MONSTER

BackAssward: Hell, why stop with the women, men in prison or captivity get raped all the time. All service members thusly should be raped as part of their "survival, escape and resistance training"... right?


Oooo, and as part of their training, service members should be trained in the art of rape. I'd love to see the service issued strapons they give out to the female service members in order to properly rape their male and female counterparts.

Cubansaltyballs: Ok. I'm sending out a call for all the Math-Educated Farkers out there.

I have an equation I'm working on, and I need help with the proofs

Basically: "The amount of support for torture should be counted in terms of "Hannitys or (H)" and can be calculated by the size of giant truck(g) or red corvette(r) or to the a penis-size deficiency"

For example,

H= 2(p) * p ^-2 * T^-(r/4 * g/2)

So if you were Sean Hannity and supported torture, and he had a 5inch lift on his truck or supported torture ^1, you cold calculate his penis at 2inches. Of if you knew his penis was 2inches, you could calculate he'd need a 5inch lift on his truck or support torture ^1.

I'm hoping I got that right... I was never good at the proofs.

The answer is potato.

Go ahead, argue with that logic. I dare you. But I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. You can't argue against it. You know why? Because it's bat fark insane, that's why

Relatively Obscure: "If I were president, I would be willing to use waterboarding. I think it was very effective. It gained information for our country," Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) had said during the debate, knocking Obama for being too soft on terrorism suspects.

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Excuse me.. point of order?

Peter von Nostrand: Go ahead, argue with that logic. I dare you. But I'm gonna let you in on a little secret. You can't argue against it. You know why? Because it's bat fark insane, that's why


So, you can't be rational with the irrational? Yup, pretty much.

Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: "The president is the benefactor of a lot of information that came from waterboarding," said West on Fox News. "Furthermore, in the movie 'G.I. Jane,' Demi Moore was waterboarded and we do that in military training; in survival, escape and resistance training."



c'mon...this HAS to be a mis-quote or parody or something. He can't be this f*cking stupid.

He's not...his audience is.

If there wasn't video, I wouldn't have believed it.

In the movie Ghost, Demi Moore talked to her dead husband.

Why isn't the military talking to Patrick Swayze??

Because the ACLU and Obama won't let them!

ultraholland: Relatively Obscure: knocking Obama for being too soft on terrorism suspects.

The killing of high-value terrorist targets aside, didn't Republicans shiat a brick when there was talk of trying terrorists in the US mainland?

not just Republicans, but a lot of folks in the 'war on terror' seemed very much against a trial for suspected terrorists. i'm not exactly sure of the reasons why, but I suspect it comes down to classified material and details on how we gather our intel on these guys. they'd have to present their evidence in court and well...if they ARE a terrorist then we just gave a lot of inside information to a guy who could be one of the Bad Guys.

ultraholland: The killing of high-value terrorist targets aside, didn't Republicans shiat a brick when there was talk of trying terrorists in the US mainland?

Yes. Yes, they did. Not that they were alone. Just the majority.

vernonFL: In the movie Ghost, Demi Moore talked to her dead husband.

Why isn't the military talking to Patrick Swayze??

Because the ACLU and Obama won't let them!

You forgot Soros and Acorn (move on is soooo 2004)

I think the big story here is that someone actually watched G.I. Jane.

FTFA: "No one died from the use of waterboarding. Is it uncomfortable? Yes, it's uncomfortable. But our worry should not be the comfort level of terrorists," Bachmann said Monday on Fox News.

It would be nice if the other candidates would point out that Presidential candidates should not be in the business of advocating activities illegal under both domestic and international law----at least while they are actively running for office.

Weaver95: I still want to waterboard Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck. no real reason, I just think it'd give them a better understanding of the whole waterboarding issue.



"We can do that. We don't even need a reason."

Is any of this getting us any closer to waterboarding Ashton Kutcher?

I'm pretty sure the SERE version of waterboarding versus being waterboarded by an actual hostile captor, is like getting shot with a training Simunition paint round, versus getting shot with an actual bullet.

Weaver95: not just Republicans, but a lot of folks in the 'war on terror' seemed very much against a trial for suspected terrorists

Because of how we might have to let them all go due to the whole violating their rights thing.

coco ebert: Is any of this getting us any closer to waterboarding Ashton Kutcher?

we could probably get Demi Moore to help with the waterboarding...I understand she was more than a bit miffed at him for cheating on her.

themindiswatching: Weaver95: not just Republicans, but a lot of folks in the 'war on terror' seemed very much against a trial for suspected terrorists

Because of how we might have to let them all go due to the whole violating their rights thing.

so you're saying that our commitment to our principals is only skin deep?