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(CBS Detroit)   It seems that retailers forgot one small thing about opening their stores at 10PM and Midnight on Thanksgiving: their employees want to spend time with their families on the holiday   (detroit.cbslocal.com) divider line 218
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2011-11-14 12:21:37 PM
Fire everyone who won't work that day,

BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL : JOBS AVAILABLE
 
2011-11-14 12:22:11 PM
They don't forget. They just don't care.
 
2011-11-14 12:23:29 PM
That's cute.. you think we just "overlooked" the needs of the serfs that work for us..
 
2011-11-14 12:23:41 PM
Steve Zodiac: They don't forget. They just don't care.

Came to post this.
 
2011-11-14 12:23:45 PM
There's another thing: THERE'S STILL FOOTBALL ON, YOU MONEY GRUBBING CORPORATE WHORES!!!!
 
2011-11-14 12:24:52 PM
FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?
 
2011-11-14 12:25:47 PM
You know, I have a good way to combat this.

Boycott every retailer on Thanksgiving. They don't give a shiat about us, so let's bankrupt them all. Maybe that will work in lieu of unionizing.

/or we can get some better deals that way
//nothing is cheaper than a desperate retailer
 
2011-11-14 12:25:47 PM
rubi_con_man: Fire everyone who won't work that day,

BLACK FRIDAY SPECIAL : JOBS AVAILABLE


I have a god-given American right to be trampled one day early while searching for that $50 TV that doesn't exist.
 
2011-11-14 12:25:52 PM
Bah humbug! Bob Crachit will be working all day.
 
2011-11-14 12:27:20 PM
Steve Zodiac: They don't forget. They just don't care.
 
2011-11-14 12:27:25 PM
RoosterCogburn: FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?


The people who have to leave at dinner so they can go home and sleep before their shift that starts at midnight?
 
2011-11-14 12:27:46 PM
rubi_con_man: Fire everyone who won't work that day,

Ah, yes. Firing: the panacea of business.

I'm sure you can get all of your fresh hires up to speed for a capacity crowd with just an hour or two of training. They'll know the register like the back of their hand by then.
 
2011-11-14 12:27:55 PM
You used to not even think about Christmas until you finished stuffing yourself on the 24th.

Now the commercials are already all over the TV. I saw a motherfarking "Happy Honda Days" ad this morning.
 
2011-11-14 12:28:26 PM
Ugh tell me about it. I work at a pharmacy and every year we have been closed on Christmas day. This year? Open 9-5. And also, I'm working all day on Thanksgiving. It'll be cold leftovers for me.

/fark corporate greed
 
2011-11-14 12:28:28 PM
They could try doing what we did when I had a restaurant gig. We made working on Thanksgiving and Christmas completely voluntary and paid double. We usually had more volunteers than openings.
 
2011-11-14 12:29:29 PM
Steve Zodiac: They don't forget. They just don't care.

Pretty damn much.

But then, I have just as much disdain for the jack-holes who would be going out shopping then as well.
 
2011-11-14 12:29:43 PM
Farking USA cable channel showed "Elf" last night, what the fark is up with that?
 
2011-11-14 12:29:54 PM
Guntram Shatterhand: You know, I have a good way to combat this.

Boycott every retailer on Thanksgiving. They don't give a shiat about us, so let's bankrupt them all. Maybe that will work in lieu of unionizing.

/or we can get some better deals that way
//nothing is cheaper than a desperate retailer


you start it and we will follow
 
2011-11-14 12:30:04 PM
There are plenty of people who will be happy for the hours. I bet the person who started the petition doesn't even work retail, let alone at target.
 
2011-11-14 12:30:19 PM
RoosterCogburn: FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?


My guess is that most people would need some sleep before engaging in an overnight shift. I used to enjoy working holidays when it meant extra income and I had no life. Now that I have a life I still like extra money but I do think this "Black Friday" thing is getting way out of hand. An American Family Holiday is now merely a prequel to shopping madness. Soon turkey will be replaced by Red Bull.
 
2011-11-14 12:32:03 PM
Jake Havechek: Farking USA cable channel showed "Elf" last night, what the fark is up with that?

'The Grinch' was on the day after f*cking Halloween.
 
2011-11-14 12:32:09 PM
Weidbrewer: Steve Zodiac: They don't forget. They just don't care.

Pretty damn much.

But then, I have just as much disdain for the jack-holes who would be going out shopping then as well.


I hate the ones that go out shopping on holidays only to biatch at employees for daring to be open on such a day. Nuke them from orbit.
 
2011-11-14 12:33:23 PM
I'll be getting shiathammered in a bar on Thursday night, you know, to beat the crowds.
 
2011-11-14 12:33:44 PM
I worked retail on Black Friday once...4am to 7pm. Fortunately that was during college so now I don't ever have to relive that miserable experience.

I wont be shopping BF werkend either...unless its from my couch while watching football.
 
2011-11-14 12:33:46 PM
Hell! If they want `rights', they can quit their jobs and join those g'damn OWS hippies in the park!
OBEY YOUR CORPORATE OVERLORDS, YOU FACELESS DRONES!!
 
2011-11-14 12:34:18 PM
It will be fun to see one of those stores try to open when half the staff calls in "sick" that day.
 
2011-11-14 12:34:18 PM
EatHam: There are plenty of people who will be happy for the hours. I bet the person who started the petition doesn't even work retail, let alone at target.

You know how I know you didn't RTFA?
 
2011-11-14 12:34:20 PM
If you're upset about having to get ready for work while the Detroit Lions are playing and Nickelback is handling the halftime show, I have a better understanding of why you thought working at Target was a good career move.
 
2011-11-14 12:34:30 PM
The number 1 thing I love about working in Europe is the work/personal life balance.

Working the weeks around Christmas and New Years isn't even a question - of course none of the professional world will be working.

Now restaurant workers...
 
2011-11-14 12:36:09 PM
And you wonder why customer service sucks.
 
2011-11-14 12:36:40 PM
I hate to break it to everyone but THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE TO WORK HOLIDAYS.

I used to work in TV news, so on Thanksgiving I was always out getting the standard video of people at shelter kitchens, heavy traffic, etc. But, you also have police officers and fire fighters; radio, TV, and cable engineers (can't have the signal going out!); convenience store employees; hospital workers and other medical staff; nursing home employees, etc.

It would be nice to think that there's 1 day out of the year when everyone can take a break, but it's just not possible.

Plus, if folks are so upset about people working on Thanksgiving, then they shouldn't go shopping on Thanksgiving. Don't go to a movie on Thanksgiving (a huge movie day). Stay home.
 
2011-11-14 12:37:38 PM
LandOfChocolate: EatHam: There are plenty of people who will be happy for the hours. I bet the person who started the petition doesn't even work retail, let alone at target.

You know how I know you didn't RTFA?


Because you're on Fark?
 
2011-11-14 12:38:27 PM
RoosterCogburn: FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?



If they're having dinner with their families in another town--like, hours away from where they live--then they may have to leave in the middle of dinner to drive back.
 
2011-11-14 12:40:46 PM
SageC: If you're upset about having to get ready for work while the Detroit Lions are playing and Nickelback is handling the halftime show, I have a better understanding of why you thought working at Target was a good career move.

The derp is strong in this one.

/I thought we put the Nickleback thing to bed?
//Banquet Manager so holidays usually aren't a problem
///Except for the occasional NYE wedding.
//I'm convinced that people who get married on holidays are A.)Vain or B.)Too stupid to remember their anniversary.
 
2011-11-14 12:41:58 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: They could try doing what we did when I had a restaurant gig. We made working on Thanksgiving and Christmas completely voluntary and paid double. We usually had more volunteers than openings.

This is why that plan won't work. No company will pay double for anything, especially a comody like human bodies, if they didn't have to. Never undersestimate the power of corporate greed. Remember, the CEO needs his billion dollar golden parachute after running the company into brankrupcy.Why do you have America so much?
 
2011-11-14 12:42:12 PM
Dancin_In_Anson: They could try doing what we did when I had a restaurant gig. We made working on Thanksgiving and Christmas completely voluntary and paid double. We usually had more volunteers than openings.


I took advantage of that when I was in college. As a waitress, if you work a good shift on Thanksgiving, you can earn enough money that one day to buy holiday presents for all your loved ones. Oh, and I don't observe Christmas, so I have no qualms about working 25 December, either.
 
2011-11-14 12:42:23 PM
RoosterCogburn: FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?


Walmart is opening at 10. That means getting there at 9. 9:30 at the latest, I'd wager.

If you have dinner at 6, not only are you watching the clock for when you have to get and leave, you aren't there for after-dinner socializing with the family (after mom and dad drove 100 miles to see you), decorating the christmas tree (an after-Thanksgiving dinner tradition in many families), or any other holiday activity like football or sitting around bloated and drunk on turkey. Hell, just helping with the dishes is out.

And lets not forget that going to work at 10pm means you're working 3rd shift. You're there until 6 am, probably. Unless you're the kind of hard-core iron man sales uber-associate who likes to work the worst retail day of the year without sleeping for 24 hours, you might want a nap.

/Nobody remembers the term 'Black Friday' was invented by retail employees who dreaded the annual invasion of insane shopaholics.
//Boycotting as always.
 
2011-11-14 12:42:37 PM
BlankSlate: Soon turkey will be replaced sponsored by Red Bull.

Enhancement brought to you by Kroger. Get all your holiday food needs here!
 
2011-11-14 12:43:04 PM
It's a Sunshine Day!: Plus, if folks are so upset about people working on Thanksgiving, then they shouldn't go shopping on Thanksgiving. Don't go to a movie on Thanksgiving (a huge movie day). Stay home.

My dad will routinely complain how days like Christmas and Thanksgiving aren't as special as they used to be, and that soon enough they'll be "just another day of the year". He's also been known to shop on Christmas eve. Although the last few years to his credit, he's done all his shopping online, with me helping anyways.

The online deals are just as good if not better, no lines, no hassle, delivered free with Amazon Prime in most cases. I can do my Christmas shopping from my damn smartphone without getting out of bed.
 
2011-11-14 12:44:42 PM
I work in an IT Operations center. We're staffed 24/7. I've worked most holidays for the past 5 years. Of course, since the campus is closed and the workload is light, we usually put on football or a movie and have a pot luck.

/plus OT pay.
 
2011-11-14 12:45:13 PM
Welcome to the world of retail. They'll never put employees first over making money. More so on their biggest day of the entire year,even so it also applies to the other 364 days.

I've also worked Black Fridays for a big box. Even in years past they expected most everyone that worked there to come in at like 10PM Thanksgiving night to start getting stuff ready. This is when the the kickoff was at like 5AM.
 
2011-11-14 12:45:17 PM
Shopping from midnight to 4 AM is the most bizarre thing I've ever heard of. Seriously, what's the draw?
 
2011-11-14 12:45:42 PM
eggrolls: RoosterCogburn: FTFA: The new opening time will require employees to arrive at work by 11 p.m. on Thanksgiving Day.
then quoted FTFA the reason for the dispute "With the midnight opening, employees like myself will have to leave for work right in the middle of Thanksgiving dinner."

SO...... you'd have to be there BY 11pm, but somehow this makes you have to leave in the middle of dinner? Hell, even conservatively, the earliest they would rationally ask you to come in as around 8pm. Who eats Thanksgiving dinner that late at night?

Walmart is opening at 10. That means getting there at 9. 9:30 at the latest, I'd wager.

If you have dinner at 6, not only are you watching the clock for when you have to get and leave, you aren't there for after-dinner socializing with the family (after mom and dad drove 100 miles to see you), decorating the christmas tree (an after-Thanksgiving dinner tradition in many families), or any other holiday activity like football or sitting around bloated and drunk on turkey. Hell, just helping with the dishes is out.

And lets not forget that going to work at 10pm means you're working 3rd shift. You're there until 6 am, probably. Unless you're the kind of hard-core iron man sales uber-associate who likes to work the worst retail day of the year without sleeping for 24 hours, you might want a nap.

/Nobody remembers the term 'Black Friday' was invented by retail employees who dreaded the annual invasion of insane shopaholics.
//Boycotting as always.


How can WalMart be "opening" at 10PM? I've never seen a WalMart that was closed at 10PM in the first place.
 
2011-11-14 12:45:42 PM
All it takes is one retailer to say "fark it" and 24/7 on Christmas will happen.

The truly funny thing is when you hear people lamenting how terrible it is stores are open...while heading out to shop
 
2011-11-14 12:46:11 PM
fark all that christmas crap
 
2011-11-14 12:46:50 PM
fark you, retailers. FizixJunkee:
If they're having dinner with their families in another town--like, hours away from where they live--then they may have to leave in the middle of dinner to drive back.


Yeah, people seem to be forgetting that Thanksgiving is the busiest travel holiday. A lot of people go out of town to visit family.

As far as I'm concerned, this is just another nail in the coffin of U.S. holidays. Pretty soon, stores won't even close at all for the holiday.
 
2011-11-14 12:46:59 PM
Those lazy, entitled ****s!

IT'S NOT BUSINESSES JOB TO HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK THEY WANT DONE!!
 
2011-11-14 12:47:13 PM
I worked at some crappy third tier retail store when I was in high school and they tried this "open on Thanksgiving Day" gimmick, and this was back in the 1980's before anyone was doing it. It made me realize that no matter what I ended up doing in life, working in retail was not an option.
 
2011-11-14 12:47:55 PM
Stay home you freaks!
 
2011-11-14 12:47:59 PM
Those lazy, entitled ****s!

IT'S NOT BUSINESSES JOB TO HIRE ENOUGH PEOPLE TO DO THE WORK THEY WANT DONE!!
 
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