So, you're saying that former Congressmen are now allowed *guns*?

ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

Any man not fit to own a firearm should be still in prison. You complete your sentence, you have all of your rights restored. Period. You get your franchise back, your right to keep and bear arms. Nothing less is acceptable.

GAT_00: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

Because people convicted of armed robbery are just the people you want walking around with a gun

And criminals are well known for obeying laws, right?

The only people concerned with being able to legally own a firearm after serving a felony sentence are the ones you don't have to worry about. The ones you do have to worry about are going to possess them whether the law says they can or not.

Are you in favor of restoration of the voting franchise after a felony sentence has been served?

vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

^THIS.

ManateeGag: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

Also a "ragin' librul" but I would like to know what the felony was. Was it a violent crime or something more white collar? I don't think violent criminals should be able to get a hold of a handgun after they get out of prison.

that's racist

GAT_00: Because people convicted of armed robbery are just the people you want walking around with a gun

Once their sentence is done, they're not convicted of anything. And it's not like someone who's gonna commit armed robbery will do all the legal steps; they'll just buy a weapon illegally.

Pretty sure the Constitution hasn't been changed to say "the right to bear arms can be infringed if one commits a felony".

Another reason to treat the entire US as a third world country. The only difference? America is full of crazies.

I don't see why non violent criminals who served their time should be denied the ability to defend their property and/or hunt.

GAT_00: sinschild: Are you in favor of restoration of the voting franchise after a felony sentence has been served?

One person can't kill another with a vote. They can with a gun.

You're obviously not on the Texas capital punishment appeal board.

"...shall not be abridged." Seems clear.

Dayum, lots of raging liberals up in here.
But, agreed. Especially if it was a violent crime involving a firearm.

/no gun for you!

ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

Right? Next thing you know, they'll let felons take away good American jobs like them damned Messicans!

sinschild: And criminals are well known for obeying laws, right?

'Because someone will break it' is no reason not to enact a law.

GAT_00: sinschild: Are you in favor of restoration of the voting franchise after a felony sentence has been served?

One person can't kill another with a vote. They can with a gun.

But felons love guns the most.

I think we can all agree that whoever you are, you have a right to have a gun in your house to protect yourself. It doesn't make sense to make felons more susceptible to being victims of crimes.

GAT_00: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

Because people convicted of armed robbery are just the people you want walking around with a gun

What about someone who was convicted of insider trading?

What about someone who stole a car 40 years ago as a teen, and has been on the straight and narrow since?

No one is talking about restoring the rights of guys who just got out of prison for violent felonies.

Yet the NRA wouldn't make a stand when the ATF came out against state legal medical marijuana users. Sure someone who raped a woman at gun point should be able to have a gun after prison, but those damn people registering green cards with the states, we don't want them handling weapons!

ManateeGag: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

Also a "ragin' librul" but I would like to know what the felony was. Was it a violent crime or something more white collar? I don't think violent criminals should be able to get a hold of a handgun after they get out of prison.

It doesn't matter. If you have served your sentence you should be allowed back into the community. If you can't accept that, don't get butthurt about the heavy use of life sentencing w/o parole.

Oh this should be good....

I think we have to carefully consider this from a lot of angles. Should some kid who got popped for selling a little weed (a felony) be barred from owning a gun for life? No. But what about an mentally stable convicted murder?

vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

I would subscribe to your newsletter.

Guns don't kill people; Bullets do.

This shiatty article makes it sound like Raper was a decent sort who's pants fell to his ankles causing him to stumble into Zettergren's house, trip, and fall on the unconscious, drunken woman and penis her. If Zettergren hadn't had his 2nd Amendment rights restored, this fine gentleman would still be alive.

Bleeding heart, gun hating liberal. Once someone has served their full prison sentence, they have paid their debt to society and should once again be given all their rights as a citizen back.

Whenever I've bought a gun the BAFTE questionnaire asks if I've ever been diagnosed with a mental disorder or been judged mentally incompetent.

Mandating that no one with a history of mental illness should be able to buy a gun sounds like a good idea to me, but I can't imagine how it could possibly work without being incredibly invasive. You'd pretty much have to require people to hand over their medical histories when they bought guns, or to have a national registry like the FBI background check database.

I suppose that living in a free society requires that we accept the risks of having fellow countrymen exercise their freedoms? I don't see an easy way around this.

I'm already kind of nervous that buying a gun puts you on some national database somewhere.

GAT_00: Do you people realize how stupid this argument is?

"They're going to do it illegally, so let's just let them do it legally!"

That's incredibly retarded. That's pants-on-head retarded. That's Michele Bachmann retarded.

So forgive me for not taking that argument seriously.

F**KING THIS

Mrs.Sharpier: ArcadianRefugee: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

^THIS.

^THAT

^THE OTHER THING.

sinschild: GAT_00: vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

Because people convicted of armed robbery are just the people you want walking around with a gun

And criminals are well known for obeying laws, right?

The only people concerned with being able to legally own a firearm after serving a felony sentence are the ones you don't have to worry about. The ones you do have to worry about are going to possess them whether the law says they can or not.

Are you in favor of restoration of the voting franchise after a felony sentence has been served?

Only if they vote Democrat and don't have more money than him that should be taxed.

tjsands1118: Yet the NRA wouldn't make a stand when the ATF came out against state legal medical marijuana users. Sure someone who raped a woman at gun point should be able to have a gun after prison, but those damn people registering green cards with the states, we don't want them handling weapons!

What does medical marijuana have to do with the right to keep and bear arms?

They are a one issue group, the NRA is not like the ACLU...the NRA covers the civil liberty the ACLU seems to overlook or refuse to cover.

AngryJailhouseFistfark: Guns don't kill people; Bullets do.

Bullets don't kill people, bleeding does.

tjsands1118: Yet the NRA wouldn't make a stand when the ATF came out against state legal medical marijuana users. Sure someone who raped a woman at gun point should be able to have a gun after prison, but those damn people registering green cards with the states, we don't want them handling weapons!

[Citation Needed]

GAT_00: sinschild: Are you in favor of restoration of the voting franchise after a felony sentence has been served?

One person can't kill another with a vote. They can with a gun.

I don't know, man. Democracy has killed a whole lot of people. Lots of bad folks were elected by popular vote.

vartian: ZAZ: I hear a few backwards states even let felons vote.

This. Raging liberal here and all, but once your sentence is served, you should be returned to a full standing member of our society. You should get your guns and your votes back.

The problem is that we don't have a reform-based prision system. Instead, we have people who make a profit based on the number of prisoners (customers) they can retain.