It's nice how they don't have the equation available, so you're just left with a set of numbers that you can't prove mean anything, because they don't visibly add to the end rating.

Well, Tebow won his game, as opposed to Matt Ryan.



Maybe Tebow is some sort of messiah. I mean, winning an NFL game on two completions for the whole game is kind of analogous to feeding the masses with a few loaves of bread and one basket of fish. I don't know if it's a miracle, but it defies all logic.

You'd think their thing would take into account things like "The team they were playing is awful or quarterbacked by Carson Palmer". But no, congrats on decimating KC and Miami.

GAT_00: It's nice how they don't have the equation available, so you're just left with a set of numbers that you can't prove mean anything, because they don't visibly add to the end rating.

The code probably reads, in part:

if ($qb == 'Tebow')
{
$qbr = OMGTIMTEBOW($qbr);
}

are they grading on potential?

This rating is circling the bowl faster than a half chewed ear of sweet corn.

GimpyNip: bel4sucks: I love how all the football experts here on fark who hate Tebow always speak in such absolutes. CAN'T, WON'T, WILL NOT, NEVER...

3-1 as a starter this season. 1 INT this season. but 7 TDs, and two more on the ground. The Tebow led Broncos need one more win all season to match the Kyle Orton led Broncos for the past two.

Here's the biggest thing about Tebow. He doesn't turn the ball over. That is the number 1 thing a QB in a ball control offense has to be able to do. Protect the football.

Of course, I hope the Jets destroy him on Thursday

It's hard to have the ball picked off when it's only thrown a half-dozen times.

GimpyNip: Anyway, who cares about Tebow's stats? He completes 25% of his passes but 50% of those are TDs. He ran for a TD as well. He also did what 16 other QBs failed to do. WIN.

Wow. I had no idea that the Broncos had ordered the other 45 members of the team to leave the stadium, along with their coaches, so that Tim Tebow could win the game all by himself. That is impressive.

I mean, if the Broncos had won a game where their stable of RBs had run the ball 46 times for 201 yards, that would suggest a game where Tebow's 2 completions had only a small difference in the outcome. Good thing that never happened. It might diminish the hype around Tebow.

(Tim Masthay does what every other punter fails to do: WIN every week this season.)

chimp_ninja: (Tim Masthay does what every other punter fails to do: WIN every week this season.)

Tim Mathsay is awesome, we at UK knew it would be a matter of time before he got picked up. The one we got now will be punting on Sundays too. I guess it's because we suck so bad that they get to punt more than anyone in the nation.

GimpyNip: Sure, but they're 3-1 and running a ball control offense. If they lost and only threw it 8 times, well, that's a problem. But, they won and there was never any need to throw. Doesn't make Tebow a great QB. It just means he is the QB that gives the Broncos the best chance to win.

You could replace Tebow with nearly anyone. They're running an offense where the QB is inconsequential.

Insider tip: They don't throw the ball.

GimpyNip: chimp_ninja: I mean, if the Broncos had won a game where their stable of RBs had run the ball 46 times for 201 yards, that would suggest a game where Tebow's 2 completions had only a small difference in the outcome. Good thing that never happened. It might diminish the hype around Tebow.

considering that the Broncos won 17 to 10 I'd say putting 14 points on the board would have something to do with your team winning.

Yeah it was pretty awesome when he started blocking for himself and catching his own passes.

GimpyNip: He was 8th in Fantasy Points.

Insider tip: It's called "Fantasy Football", not "Reality Football". A guy who comes into the game to make two successful first-down goal-line dives from the 1 is worth more "Fantasy Points" than 90% of the league.

You might notice that Denver's offensive line tied for 1st/32nd place with 0 fantasy points. Those slackers. I guess you could replace them with anyone.

GimpyNip: Smith & Hasselbeck didn't have impressive stats lines 242 yds 1 td 1 int. That doesn't compute well to ratings or fantasy points. Tebow had 2 TDs and no turnovers. Those are worth more than yards in every stat systems be it QBR, QB Rating, Fantasy Points, etc

Football Outsiders ranks him as the 37th-best quarterback (min. 68 passes) this season, worth 161 yards worse than replacement-level quarterbacks. He's ranked just worse than Curtis Painter, even if you include both QBs' running contributions. He's 45th if you include guys who only threw 10+ passes.

I think you mean that he ranks well on incredibly stupid systems that rate 2-for-3 for 20 yards just as valuable a performance as 24-for-36 for 240 yards.

GimpyNip: chimp_ninja: I mean, if the Broncos had won a game where their stable of RBs had run the ball 46 times for 201 yards, that would suggest a game where Tebow's 2 completions had only a small difference in the outcome. Good thing that never happened. It might diminish the hype around Tebow.

considering that the Broncos won 17 to 10 I'd say putting 14 points on the board would have something to do with your team winning.

Yeah. I mean, it was awesome that Tebow ran for 7 yards despite zero blocking, after fielding the kick return himself, and marching the ball down to the 7 yard line via a series of highly illegal plays where he snapped the ball to himself, handed it to himself, and dragged all 11 defenders with him while running straight ahead.

He threw one good pass, 1 short completion, and 6 incompletions. Whee.

Incontinent_dog_and_monkey_rodeo: So teams start to put nine guys in the box

If I am the Jets, I force Denver to pass. Reivis on Decker single coverage, Cromartie single-coverage on Thomas or Royal, a cover LB on Fells. Then play the run. If Fells run-blocks, the LB is the ninth in the box. Heck, let Decker and Royal run free down the field. Half the time Tebow will miss them. Force Denver to throw. And Denver has a short week to get Moreno and McGahee healthy. What do they do if their starting RB is Lance Ball? Yikes.

chimp_ninja: You could replace Tebow with nearly anyone. They're running an offense where the QB is inconsequential.

how many first downs or touchdowns did Tebow run for in that game? Outside of Cam Newton and Vick, what other QBs are running threats and you still have to respect the throw? (Big Ben doesn't run to gain yardage, he runs to buy his receivers time to throw.)

GimpyNip: chimp_ninja: Football Outsiders ranks him as the 37th-best quarterback (min. 68 passes) this season, worth 161 yards worse than replacement-level quarterbacks. He's ranked just worse than Curtis Painter, even if you include both QBs' running contributions. He's 45th if you include guys who only threw 10+ passes.

Football Outsiders & Aaron Schatz are not legit sources. Sorry. This isn't baseball. Also, I don't get why you're attacking fantasy points. It's no less ridiculous than QBR and QB Rating.

Wait, so ESPN's QB Rating is a "legit source", but Aaron Schatz, an ESPN employee is not "a legit source"?

Please, explain the logic. This should be good. Please explain why Tim Tebow is the 6th-best QB in football right now.

GimpyNip: How many QBs have a 50% pass to TD ratio? Not many. NONE!

His pass to TD ratio would actually be 8:1. Yesterday Matt Schaub had a 7.5:1 pass to TD ratio. So, you know, him.

GimpyNip: I like how I said three times that Tebow wasn't a great QB but he gives the Broncos the best chance of winning and these two arrogant assclowns keep spouting hyperbole like, "Oh, he's bugs bunny now, catching his own pass is he?" What are you two strumpets talking about? Hey, sorry you wanted the guy to fail and he hasn't.

I don't care what he does. I just hate that it's always, "Tebow wins." I mean, there are 10 other guys on offense.

/You got a little Tebow on your mouth.....right there.