One has to wonder about the "christianity" of creatures that donate to cain or bachmann.

It's pathetic that this has to be stated aloud in America.

James!: A vote for republicans is a vote for torture.

Unfortunately, a vote for Obama is also a vote for torture. Your choices are "or torture".

//I'll have the vegetarian platter

James!: A vote for republicans is a vote for torture.

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for torture.

Americans are torturers, and always will be.

Ends justify the means. American hegemony must be absolute

t3knomanser: James!: A vote for republicans is a vote for torture.

Unfortunately, a vote for Obama is also a vote for torture. Your choices are "or torture".

//I'll have the vegetarian platter

Citation needed.

That's a great troll by Obama. Now the GOP candidates will be falling over themselves, singing the praises of torture. We'll see how truly ghoulish the GOP really is.

The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.

//Some politicians don't seem phased by hypocrisy.

James!: A vote for republicans is a vote for torture.

And for some people, that's a good point.

Just like Obama to go negative like that.

Alphax: Citation needed.

The difference between Obama and Republicans on torture? Obama simply favors outsourcing.

I for one would pay big money to see Cain waterboard Bachmann

James!: Nope, most people probably don't.

No, I remember that. If we're picking lesser evils, Obama is clearly the lesser evil. But the lesser evil is still evil.

//Both sides are bad. Vote third party. Any third party, I don't care.

monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding.

If they're serious, Cain and Bachmann should apologize for this.

If not, they're lying, hypocritical sacks of excrement.

monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding being Japanese soldiers.

Really, we just wanted to kill as many Japanese people as we could get our bloodthirsty hands on. Remember, our propaganda said they all communed with the Devil, so that made it OK.

TravisBickle62: I for one would pay big money to see Cain waterboard Bachmann

Since they both claim waterboarding isn't torture, they should both agree to submit to it to show us just how not-torturey it is.

monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.

//Some politicians don't seem phased by hypocrisy.

Well, if they didn't want to be executed for waterboarding, they shouldn't have lost the war then.

Obviously it is right and just that America uses these interrogation techniques, otherwise the Lord would not have blessed this nation with dominion over the earth while delivering the unworthy to face justice.

Cain and Bachmann are wrong about __________________.

1) waterboarding.
2) gay marriage
3) immigration
4) job creation
5) abortion
6) pretty much anything anyone on Earth can think of

t3knomanser: Alphax: Citation needed.

The difference between Obama and Republicans on torture? Obama simply favors outsourcing.


And we are done....
Good to see that such strong convictions can be sidelined when threatened by the idiots on the right saying that they will shut down ....
// I guess saying anything to win will always be the best way to get votes
// what a shame

Here, just start a simple rule.

In order to pass any pro-waterboarding legislation (as congress) or orders (as Pres or others in the chain of command), you must endure waterboarding yourself.

Furthermore, before you actually be waterboarded, you sign a waiver saying that you hold the interrogator blameless for the length of the totally-not-torture-waterboarding, that the duration is completely up to them and could be multiple times over a period of several days, and that in the event of death, you hold the interrogator innocent.

Then let's see who thinks it isn't torture.

I'm still waiting on Sean Hannity to accept the waterboarding challenge.

monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.

//SomeMost Republican politicians don't seem phased by hypocrisy.

FTFY

monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.



YOU LIE!

"The Washington Post and Sen. Edward Kennedy have pointed to a World War II era war crimes prosecution by the U.S. against a Japanese soldier who used what was described as "water torture" on an American civilian. But they've failed to note that this was far from the only conduct at issue; the soldier was also charged with having engaged, over a sustained period of time, in "beating using hands, fists, club; kicking; ... burning using cigarettes; strapping on a stretcher head downward." The case hardly stands for the proposition that isolated instances of waterboarding would be torture."

http://conservapedia.com/Waterboarding (new window)

/wheeeeee

t3knomanser: Alphax: Citation needed.

The difference between Obama and Republicans on torture? Obama simply favors outsourcing.

"Rendition" is a longstanding practice. "Extraordinary Rendition" was the Bush-era technique of giving a country a guy we couldn't touch and nudge-nudge-wink-wink "go get 'em tiger". The latter has been discontinued. (new window)

t3knomanser: Alphax: Citation needed.

The difference between Obama and Republicans on torture? Obama simply favors outsourcing.

Do you have any evidence that Obama "favors outsourcing" torture? Because the article you cite claims that the rendition process still allowed by the Obama administration will not be used to outsource the mistreatment of prisoners. You may be skeptical of this claim, but I think you'll need something more than this LA Times article to justify your claim that the Obama administration has the same position as Republicans on torture/waterboarding.

"Under limited circumstances, there is a legitimate place" for renditions, said Tom Malinowski, the Washington advocacy director for Human Rights Watch. "What I heard loud and clear from the president's order was that they want to design a system that doesn't result in people being sent to foreign dungeons to be tortured -- but that designing that system is going to take some time."

As I said, I can understand skepticism, but I think that you'll need to show something more to justify your "both sides are the same" position. Particularly when the article in question has Obama clearly stating that waterboarding is torture.

Lost Thought 00: monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding being Japanese soldiers.

Really, we just wanted to kill as many Japanese people as we could get our bloodthirsty hands on. Remember, our propaganda said they all communed with the Devil, so that made it OK.

And that's why we regularly executed Japanese civilians en masse during the occupation.

Oh wait, that was the Japanese Army when they occupied China / Indonesia / the Philippines. Carry on then.

/The Japanese Army did a lot worse than waterboarding.

Jackson Herring: I'm still waiting on Scarlett Johansson and Mila Kunis to blow me every morning before breakfast.

Psh. I call that "Thursday".

Doktr Gud Brayne: monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.

//Some politicians don't seem phased by hypocrisy.

Well, if they didn't want to be executed for waterboarding, they shouldn't have lost the war then.

Obviously it is right and just that America uses these interrogation techniques, otherwise the Lord would not have blessed this nation with dominion over the earth while delivering the unworthy to face justice.

Dear God. I think you just channel the spirit of a dead tea partier ot something. That was their thought process on paper.

I didn't get a chance to watch the latest GOP debate. Did the crowd start cheering and hooting when they heard the word "torture?"

Mr. Coffee Nerves: a lithe, yet well-muscled island boy"



/ link is so very hawt

Parthenogenetic: monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding. Seems like it should be end of story.

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YOU LIE!

"The Washington Post and Sen. Edward Kennedy have pointed to a World War II era war crimes prosecution by the U.S. against a Japanese soldier who used what was described as "water torture" on an American civilian. But they've failed to note that this was far from the only conduct at issue; the soldier was also charged with having engaged, over a sustained period of time, in "beating using hands, fists, club; kicking; ... burning using cigarettes; strapping on a stretcher head downward." The case hardly stands for the proposition that isolated instances of waterboarding would be torture."

http://conservapedia.com/Waterboarding (new window)

/wheeeeee

Dude, conservapedia?

\There's a reason your posts are marked in green. Kudos to you :)

Crunch61: monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding.

If they're serious, Cain and Bachmann should apologize for this.

If not, they're lying, hypocritical sacks of excrement.

That's a pretty big "if" you've got going on there.

Let's keep in mind that both of these candidates believe that God spoke to them and said they needed to run and secure the Presidential seat. This puts them in the same league as abortion clinic attackers, cult leaders and the homeless dude that stands out on the side of the road during rush hour and yells at cars as they pass by.

To be fair, Mr. President......they're wrong about a lot. All the time.

Skarekrough: Crunch61: monoski: The US executed Japanese soldiers for waterboarding.

If they're serious, Cain and Bachmann should apologize for this.

If not, they're lying, hypocritical sacks of excrement.

That's a pretty big "if" you've got going on there.

Let's keep in mind that both of these candidates believe that God spoke to them and said they needed to run and secure the Presidential seat. This puts them in the same league as abortion clinic attackers, cult leaders and the homeless dude that stands out on the side of the road during rush hour and yells at cars as they pass by.

And W.

// and Reagan

RsquaredW: t3knomanser: Alphax: Citation needed.

The difference between Obama and Republicans on torture? Obama simply favors outsourcing.

"Rendition" is a longstanding practice. "Extraordinary Rendition" was the Bush-era technique of giving a country a guy we couldn't touch and nudge-nudge-wink-wink "go get 'em tiger". The latter has been discontinued. (new window)

And there were really two things under the umbrella of Extraordinary Rendition when the media talked about it, both the sending of people out to other countries to be tortured and sending people to CIA black holes to be tortured. Both of them were stopped on like the 2nd day of Obama's presidency.

Who Would Jesus Waterboard?