serpent_sky: Cuts have to be made somewhere. I'd rather see them cut the space shuttle any day before they cut things like Social Security (that all of us have paid into since our first day of work) or Medicare (same thing).... I honestly don't care if this country can, or does, put men in space and I have never actually heard a convincing argument as to why I should.

Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

serpent_sky: Dan the Schman: Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

So, how about you give me some facts? I'm not the sort who isn't open to revising my opinion based on actual facts.

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A sampling in a simple list format:

An air filtration system that can kill all types of harmful bacteria - even anthrax -- and remove allergens from the air with better than 90 percent efficiency.

An ultralight solar concentrator that gathers power from the Sun and efficiently converts it into electrical power. This could provide a significant source of energy for future space missions.

A water purification process capable of removing two troublesome types of contaminants, perchlorate and nitrate, from water and rendering them harmless.

advanced polymer coatings for implantable devices to help avert heart failure,

robotic technology used for minimally invasive knee surgery;

space suit-derived textiles to help protect firefighters and race car drivers,

astronaut food supplements now in worldwide use to improve baby formula.

If it something that actually bugs you, I'm shocked you never bothered to do a Google search yourself. It's also basic common sense, I can't count the number of commercials and stickers on products promoting that it's based on technology developed by NASA.

The Iconoclast: So, if God told him to run and he doesn't win what does that mean? And didn't Cain kill Able? I'm confused.

Actually, it was Able's evil twin, Zaire. Try to keep up.

Time-travel-obama is an asshole.

serpent_sky: Dan the Schman: If it something that actually bugs you, I'm shocked you never bothered to do a Google search yourself. It's also basic common sense, I can't count the number of commercials and stickers on products promoting that it's based on technology developed by NASA.

It doesn't bug me, per se... it's more of people always saying how "sad" it is to not have manned space exploration, how we "won" getting a man to the moon, how we should "win" getting a man to Mars. Those are the more common talk you hear.

Your list actually does make sense, those are all good things. Perhaps there are other ways to carry that on that are less expensive. I can't think of commercials or products that advertised this, but I have a sense that I don't come in contact with that much along those lines. It's not any sort of willful ignorance, but I certainly will admit ignorance on my part to all of this. I really did think it was just about getting to space and exploring space.

I can promise that everyday you make use of technology that was in some way advanced by the Space Race or thereafter.

And it isn't costly... it's the exact opposite, it's a multiplier, like infrastructure. Sadly, it's an area where Republican talking points trump reality.

vernonFL: Here is an idea: How about before we put anything else into space, we clean up all the garbage that is already flying around up there?

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don't you think that picture is a little misleading? While there may be a lot of space junk up there, there is also ALOT of open space, and that picture doesn't really do justice to the vast amounts of nothingness between the satellites. Maybe if each of the satellites in the diagram was a dot instead of a picture...

Lando Lincoln: Dan the Schman: Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

While true, we've got more important things to spend money on than manned space missions. Give me universal healthcare and then we'll talk about manned space missions.

The Republicans will be all for universal coverage... as soon as the poor pay for it and the rich get tax-cuts in exchange for their approval. Essentially, the GOP won't sign off until the poor are paying for the rich's health care =/.

Lando Lincoln: Dan the Schman: Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

While true, we've got more important things to spend money on than manned space missions. Give me universal healthcare and then we'll talk about manned space missions.

Are manned space missions more important than an effective universal healthcare model? No. Are they more economically beneficial than a large percentage of defense spending, tax cuts, and Medicare Part D? Most definitely.

Lando Lincoln: Dan the Schman: Are manned space missions more important than an effective universal healthcare model? No.

Then lets cut everything out of the budget that's less important than universal healthcare until we get universal healthcare, then lets start adding things back in if we have spare cash.

I think you overvalue Universal Healthcare. And rating the "importance" of programs is literally impossible, due to each program effecting different groups of people... unless you think a committee of human beings could fairly determine which groups of humans are more important than others, and therefore the programs that benefit them are more important.

The mods must really want us to know that god told Cain to run.

Lando Lincoln: Dan the Schman: Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

While true, we've got more important things to spend money on than manned space missions. Give me universal healthcare and then we'll talk about manned space missions.

Universal healthcare will never be affordable as long as people treat it like the search for the fountain of youth. Over 100k is spent on Medicare in a persons last 6 months of life. Doctors will spend way too much to add 2months of painful life. You can have universal healthcare once the program is toned down and reasonable.

Britney Spear's Speculum: The mods must really want us to know that god told Cain to run.

Or lose faith in a God altogether. Either spectrum, it's still depressing.

Lionel Mandrake: "I can tell you that as president of the United States, we are not going to bum a ride to outer space with Russia," Cain said to loud applause. "We're going to regain our rightful place in terms of technology, space technology."

I'm not sure I believe a statement like this from someone who talks to God...and God talks back.

Given his grasp of international politics, I'm surprsed that he didn't talk about hitching a ride with the Soviets....

MyRandomName: Lando Lincoln: Dan the Schman: Much like war, the technology developed for such programs trickle down (unlike tax cuts for the wealthy) and become integral parts of daily life. If you've never heard a convincing argument, then I doubt you debated it with anyone who actually knew even the barest of facts.

While true, we've got more important things to spend money on than manned space missions. Give me universal healthcare and then we'll talk about manned space missions.

Universal healthcare will never be affordable as long as people treat it like the search for the fountain of youth. Over 100k is spent on Medicare in a persons last 6 months of life. Doctors will spend way too much to add 2months of painful life. You can have universal healthcare once the program is toned down and reasonable.

ZOMGDEATHPANELS!!!!!one!

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Sorry libtards, your boy owns this one. He screwed up the space program and now the US is the loser kid in the block. But hey, at least you have single payer healthcare. Hahahah!

Herman Cain is right. I hear we are close to finally putting a man on the moon, and for Obama to pull the plug as we are about to cross this historic milestone is problematic.