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(Salon) Interesting Son of conservative Iranian cleric critical of Ahmadinejad found dead of an apparent suicide in Dubai. The fact that he handcuffed himself, then shot four bullets in the back of his own head makes it really apparent he wanted to kill himself   (salon.com) divider line 52
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2011-11-13 11:12:46 AM
You have to really want to kill yourself when you cast your own feet in cement, shoot a bullet in your own head then throw yourself off a bridge, too.
 
2011-11-13 11:26:40 AM
Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.
 
2011-11-13 11:32:48 AM
cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.

It really was nice when he was off executing Palestinian civilians for having the audacity of living in their own country.
 
2011-11-13 11:36:18 AM
GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.

It really was nice when he was off executing Palestinian civilians for having the audacity of living in their own country.


We didn't have an Israel thread for weeks. It was nice.
 
2011-11-13 11:50:41 AM
Tatsuma: You have to really want to kill yourself when you cast your own feet in cement, shoot a bullet in your own head then throw yourself off a bridge, too.


So you're saying it was actually another Dubai Mossad hit, then?

Whose fake passports did they use this time?


GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.

It really was nice when he was off executing Palestinian civilians for having the audacity of living in their own country.



He's back? The "settler" is unsettled?
 
2011-11-13 11:55:11 AM
It would be neat if the article mentioned any of that.
 
2011-11-13 11:58:15 AM
Amos Quito: So you're saying it was actually another Dubai Mossad hit, then?

Whose fake passports did they use this time?


You know who had a really good article about that? GQ. Not kidding.
 
2011-11-13 12:01:54 PM
cameroncrazy1984: Amos Quito: So you're saying it was actually another Dubai Mossad hit, then?

Whose fake passports did they use this time?

You know who had a really good article about that? GQ. Not kidding.


Is it online or print only?
 
2011-11-13 12:11:47 PM
Tatsuma:

I could have sworn you said "soon" when referring to your impending retreat into study?
 
2011-11-13 01:11:41 PM
violentsalvation: cameroncrazy1984: Amos Quito: So you're saying it was actually another Dubai Mossad hit, then?

Whose fake passports did they use this time?

You know who had a really good article about that? GQ. Not kidding.

Is it online or print only?


I'm not sure if it's online - I read it in the print version.
 
2011-11-13 01:30:22 PM
cameroncrazy1984: I'm not sure if it's online - I read it in the print version.

You have a subscription to GQ?
 
2011-11-13 01:32:20 PM
cameroncrazy1984: I'm not sure if it's online - I read it in the print version.

Also, is this is?

The Dubai Job (new window)
 
2011-11-13 02:08:36 PM
tallguywithglasseson: cameroncrazy1984: I'm not sure if it's online - I read it in the print version.

Also, is this is?

The Dubai Job (new window)


Yes and yes.
 
2011-11-13 02:30:38 PM
Those four bullet holes were Photoshopped. I can tell from the pixels and having seen quite a few shops in my time.
 
2011-11-13 02:32:37 PM
Brit Hume does not approve.
 
2011-11-13 02:33:11 PM
Tatsuma: You have to really want to kill yourself when you cast your own feet in cement, shoot a bullet in your own head then throw yourself off a bridge, too.

antiaryan much?
 
2011-11-13 02:36:33 PM
cameroncrazy1984: GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.

It really was nice when he was off executing Palestinian civilians for having the audacity of living in their own country.

We didn't have an Israel thread for weeks. It was nice.


i53.tinypic.com
 
2011-11-13 02:46:28 PM
Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?
 
2011-11-13 02:49:06 PM
clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?

It's a conspiracy
 
2011-11-13 02:51:05 PM
Look, subby, while I may enjoy a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy...

FTA: The police official said the body, with a slit left wrist, was found late Friday by hotel staff in an 18th floor room. There was no evidence of an attack and the death is being investigated as a suicide, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to brief media.
 
2011-11-13 02:55:41 PM
You see when you slit the wrist, if you slit too deeply, you fark up the use of it for slitting the other wrist.

/Slice both major veins in the neck(at once), for a quicker death.
//Wrist slashing is so time consuming until you bleed out enough to die.
///Oh please have the common courtesy to do it in the bathtub. Someone has to clean up after you.
 
2011-11-13 02:57:45 PM
Get Lost: You see when you slit the wrist, if you slit too deeply, you fark up the use of it for slitting the other wrist.

/Slice both major veins in the neck(at once), for a quicker death.
//Wrist slashing is so time consuming until you bleed out enough to die.
///Oh please have the common courtesy to do it in the bathtub. Someone has to clean up after you.


This is what makes it feel legit to me. Of course, the truly 'good' wetwork professionals keep this in mind, too...
 
2011-11-13 03:03:15 PM
media.psu.com



Yup.
 
2011-11-13 03:04:12 PM
Who commits suicide in a hotel? If you're feeling down, go for a swim, raid the mini-bar, or annoy the concierge.
 
2011-11-13 03:06:51 PM
17 RG members died not too long ago. Hopefully more to come, so it evens out.
Good guys can't always win, but you can at least go for more dead bad guys.
 
2011-11-13 03:19:55 PM
clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?


Three observations I don't think any of us can dispute:

1. Politics tab regulars are regularly found in discussions on the politics tab. Often you'll see regulars early on in each thread.
2. Politics tab regulars are opinionated, as a rule.
3. Politics tab regulars are pretty familiar with all the other regulars, and have opinions about them.

Applying Occam's Razor, I don't think "stalking" is the likeliest explanation for any particular guy getting ragged on in here.
 
2011-11-13 03:20:53 PM
img203.imageshack.us

Move along, move along. Just a suicide. Nothing to see here.
 
2011-11-13 03:23:23 PM
Um, why exactly would people suspect Israel of being behind this?
 
2011-11-13 03:26:04 PM
rez plz
 
2011-11-13 03:48:39 PM
clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?

Oooo, it's Tatsuma's alt account.
 
2011-11-13 03:51:13 PM
phaseolus: Applying Occam's Razor, I don't think "stalking" is the likeliest explanation for any particular guy getting ragged on in here.

Yeah, but don't forget those two also immediately threadshiatting by bringing up a completely unrelated topic and attacking another poster who hasn't merited the criticism in this thread.
 
2011-11-13 03:59:05 PM
To be fair, I've heard that Iranians have gotten really good at suicide, so this seems plausible to me.
 
2011-11-13 04:07:47 PM
32 posts in and nobody's blamed Israel yet? You guys are sl...

Oh, wait.
 
2011-11-13 04:18:10 PM
Well Dubai arrests the person murdered and not the murderer.

Same case goes for rape too.
 
2011-11-13 04:19:28 PM
Tatsuma! Get in h...oh, nm.
 
2011-11-13 04:30:17 PM
Satanic_Hamster: clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?

Oooo, it's Tatsuma's alt account.


Yeah, sure, whatever. Tatsuma's probably forgotten more about Judaism than I ever knew. My grandparents were "Ethical Culture Society;" look it up. I'm Tatsuma's "assimilated Jew" alt.

Nebulious: phaseolus: Applying Occam's Razor, I don't think "stalking" is the likeliest explanation for any particular guy getting ragged on in here.

Yeah, but don't forget those two also immediately threadshiatting by bringing up a completely unrelated topic and attacking another poster who hasn't merited the criticism in this thread.


Thank you sir. All I was trrying to say.
 
2011-11-13 04:49:23 PM
Nebulious: phaseolus: Applying Occam's Razor, I don't think "stalking" is the likeliest explanation for any particular guy getting ragged on in here.

Yeah, but don't forget those two also immediately threadshiatting by bringing up a completely unrelated topic and attacking another poster who hasn't merited the criticism in this thread.


He was trolling from the very initial post. How is that unmerited?
 
2011-11-13 05:48:14 PM
clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers.

i.imgur.com
 
2011-11-13 05:53:40 PM
cameroncrazy1984: He was trolling from the very initial post. How is that unmerited?

So, your assholitude here is completely justified? Because the headline and Tats exaggerated the circumstances of the death? He didn't bring up Israel or the Palestinians, you two did.
 
2011-11-13 06:42:30 PM
Nebulious: cameroncrazy1984: He was trolling from the very initial post. How is that unmerited?

So, your assholitude here is completely justified? Because the headline and Tats exaggerated the circumstances of the death? He didn't bring up Israel or the Palestinians, you two did.


Are you unfamiliar with tatsuma's propensity/history for/of trolling, threadshiatting, and lying?

The guy is a pox on the politics tab.
 
2011-11-13 06:44:42 PM
Nebulious: cameroncrazy1984: He was trolling from the very initial post. How is that unmerited?

So, your assholitude here is completely justified? Because the headline and Tats exaggerated the circumstances of the death? He didn't bring up Israel or the Palestinians, you two did.


So? His history is off-limits? Why?
 
2011-11-13 07:05:34 PM
Smackledorfer: Are you unfamiliar with tatsuma's propensity/history for/of trolling, threadshiatting, and lying?
cameroncrazy1984: So? His history is off-limits? Why?

I'm well aware of Tatsuma's ability to say stupid things, but I'm not certain that merits jumping down his throat each time he appears in a thread. I'm all for shaming the trolls who come in and just ruin the discourse, but from the little I read in the Israel threads Tats seems to argue from where he believes. The piledriving that happens when he sticks his head in any thread (and those he doesn't) strikes me as excessive and personal.

Like I said, the middle east threads tend to get way to hotheaded for me. So maybe I'm completely wrong, but I see Tatsuma as a guy I disagree with a lot instead of a troll.
 
2011-11-13 07:13:45 PM
so wait, in this whole Israel/Palestine and Israel/Rest of the MIddle East thing... who's the good guy? I never learned much about it.
 
2011-11-13 07:13:50 PM
Satanic_Hamster: clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?

Oooo, it's another Tatsuma's alt account.


FTFY, there's three now, plus his pocket modmin
 
2011-11-13 07:25:01 PM
Nebulious: Tats seems to argue from where he believes.

Oh hell no. They guy is an exercise in dishonest debate, besides a religious and ethnic nationalist.
 
2011-11-13 07:43:26 PM
cameroncrazy1984: GAT_00: cameroncrazy1984: Oh look, a trolling headline followed by a trolling comment.

It really was nice when he was off executing Palestinian civilians for having the audacity of living in their own country.

We didn't have an Israel thread for weeks. It was nice.


Someone told me he was gone forever! He'd become some sort of monk or something. WTF?
 
2011-11-13 08:08:04 PM
Let his people go!
 
2011-11-13 10:25:10 PM
That is what they call determination subby.
 
2011-11-14 01:48:15 AM
Nebulious: Smackledorfer: Are you unfamiliar with tatsuma's propensity/history for/of trolling, threadshiatting, and lying?
cameroncrazy1984: So? His history is off-limits? Why?

I'm well aware of Tatsuma's ability to say stupid things, but I'm not certain that merits jumping down his throat each time he appears in a thread. I'm all for shaming the trolls who come in and just ruin the discourse, but from the little I read in the Israel threads Tats seems to argue from where he believes. The piledriving that happens when he sticks his head in any thread (and those he doesn't) strikes me as excessive and personal.

Like I said, the middle east threads tend to get way to hotheaded for me. So maybe I'm completely wrong, but I see Tatsuma as a guy I disagree with a lot instead of a troll.


Contradicted yourself there.

Don't worry, I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a long time too. His devotion lies less with Israel than it does to trolling. He will be deliberately inflammatory, say one thing, then when called out, slowly move the goal posts just to get more responses. He throws out a lot more raw information than your average troll, but he follows all the same rules.
 
2011-11-14 05:10:10 AM
clambam: Tats, you've got stalkers. Every thread you post in these guys show up immediately and start to rag on you. Keep up the good work, but don't you find it a little creepy?

It would be creepy, but literally the first two pages I can only read two post, the rest are just grey lines so that's fine.

I imagine it's not too nice, based on the overall 15 posts I can read in this thread.

Actually it stopped being creepy and instead quite annoying when people started to bring up that thread all the time in unrelated threads years ago, so I've been quite liberal with my use of the ignore function. From what I understand, it hasn't stopped them.

That just makes them even sadder, really.

Nebulious: I'm well aware of Tatsuma's ability to say stupid things, but I'm not certain that merits jumping down his throat each time he appears in a thread. I'm all for shaming the trolls who come in and just ruin the discourse, but from the little I read in the Israel threads Tats seems to argue from where he believes. The piledriving that happens when he sticks his head in any thread (and those he doesn't) strikes me as excessive and personal.

Like I said, the middle east threads tend to get way to hotheaded for me. So maybe I'm completely wrong, but I see Tatsuma as a guy I disagree with a lot instead of a troll.


Pretty much. I can make the most non-provocative statement, and it's going to result in violent violent hatred.
 
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