You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

Don't be an ass because some people aren't as fortunate as you...

namatad: Amos Quito: You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

1) find the person or people making these calls
2) kill them

That's Sharia law, isn't it?

"Do you have Allah the pop in a bottle?"

CruiserTwelve:
No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

Thanks for your input, officer. It may not be his property, but it's his home. I'd at least expect cops and vampires to understand the difference.

I bet you wouldn't like it if people kept referring to your house as "[BANK HOLDING YOUR MORTGAGE]s home" and saying you had no right to claim otherwise.


NO YOU CAN'T HAZ A HOME
NOT YOURS

Amos Quito: You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

This^^

CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

And suddenly, I was again reminded of why I don't like you.

CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

And of course the fact that they get public housing means it's completely OK for somebody to fark around with 911 in order to harass them.

Bathia_Mapes
Perhaps someone is purchasing cheap prepaid phones. You can activate some of them without giving a name (real or false) or address. Tracfone allows you to do this, and since cell phone numbers are often recycled, it would be difficult to track down whomever is making the calls.

That's a lot of effort to go to just to prank someone.

I'm not dismissing your suggestion, I'm just pondering what kind of sociopathy it would take for someone to take that effort. I've been on Fark long enough to know that it's not unheard of.

shivashakti [TotalFark] 2011-11-13 03:12:24 PM
CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

Don't be an ass because some people aren't as fortunate as you...


They have public housing in Manhatten! They are some of the most fortunate people in all of New York City!

Bondith:
That's a lot of effort to go to just to prank someone.

I'm not dismissing your suggestion, I'm just pondering what kind of sociopathy it would take for someone to take that effort.
Psycho neighbour with a grudge? I've heard some crazy stories along those lines.

Sabyen91:
Huh, you are a piece of crap in non-cop threads too. Interesting.

Do we even have any proof CruiserTwelve IS a cop, and not just one of those creeps who failed the entrance exam and now drives around lonely roads at night in a leased Crown Vic, looking for stranded female drivers?

You know, every moslem I've ever met has come over here to make a buck. And some of them seem pretty good at it.
My wife took one of their kids home from a martial arts class one night and was compelled to come in and drink something they called tea. She said that it was awful(!), but that the family was friendly as could be. I know that I liked the kids just fine.

Many moons ago (before moslems were scary) I was b.s.ing with a gent who was a brand new citizen. I think he came from Syria. He was working several jobs and was trying to get his brother over. He said "I have just read a book! I wish I could get every American to read this book!"
He was so pumped to be an American that it was like a breath of fresh air. I read the book The Creature From Jekyl Island on his recomendation.

I wish I could get every American to read that book!

CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

It may not be their property, but it certainly is their home. Take your rage-on over people who a less fortunate than you elsewhere, you overpriveleged douche.

Ctrl-Alt-Del: CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

It may not be their property, but it certainly is their home. Take your rage-on over people who a less fortunate than you elsewhere, you overpriveleged douche.

He's a cop. What else do you expect?

Hey CT, don't you have some protesters to be tear gassing right now?

Must be a real inconvenience dealing with prank 911 calls while waiting for your sleeper cell to be activated.

Perhaps 911 could just give the family a call before dispatching? Verifying a need for assistance just seems, um, practical.

hey, has anyone replied to cruisertwelve yet?

The Religion...of Peace

BarbadoSlim: The Religion...of Peace

And Quiet.

/AmendedTFY

No Such Agency: CruiserTwelve:
No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

Thanks for your input, officer. It may not be his property, but it's his home. I'd at least expect cops and vampires to understand the difference.

I bet you wouldn't like it if people kept referring to your house as "[BANK HOLDING YOUR MORTGAGE]s home" and saying you had no right to claim otherwise.

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NO YOU CAN'T HAZ A HOME
NOT YOURS

I'm living in a paid off house so I'm getting a kick

/sell your house on long island, buy a house cash in NC with all the profit before the bubble burst

TsukasaK: Ctrl-Alt-Del: CruiserTwelve: No, it's not your home. You live in public housing. When you start making mortgage payments you can call it "your" home.

It may not be their property, but it certainly is their home. Take your rage-on over people who a less fortunate than you elsewhere, you overpriveleged douche.

He's a cop. What else do you expect?

Hey CT, don't you have some protesters to be tear gassing right now?

Be kind. Chasing down peaceful protesters is hard work and CT needs to unwind from the stress.

Relatively Obscure: Grables'Daughter: ZAZ: You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

That's what I was thinking. 911 gets better caller ID than normal subscribers. Are there still pay phones in that area?

Yeah, the article didn't say at all as to how the calls were coming in anonymously.

Seems like a huge fail on the author, IMO.


^ These.

Easily defeated. Go to google voice, sign up, add your cell phone/home line to the service. Now, initiate the call with your GV number. PRESTO, untraceable calling.

Untraceable = caller id is worthless, caller location is GV substation.
HOWEVER, an SDT will find the actual phone and number you called from, so don't piss off the cops too much.

(SDT = subpeona duces tecum)

CruiserTwelve:

By force of the general common knowledge of the FARK population acknowledge your reality.

You have this great character arc like a WWF bad guy from 20 years ago.

Cruiser , eh? I loves me some cruiser.

Police officials agreed, but said they'll continue responding each time someone calls.

"We can never not go," said NYPD Deputy Inspector Kim Royster. "We will always go."

The Inwood address has been flagged by police, meaning a supervisor is dispatched along with patrol.



Sooo, lemme see if I get this straight. In any given week there will be some news article were some idiot gets caught crank calling an emergency to get out of work, or a court date. Yet, the N.Y.P.D. can't get off their fat, corrupt asses to figure out who is making them respond to fake emergencies more than 150 times? ARE YOU FARKING KIDDING ME?!?!

CruiserTwelve: I guess that was kind of a dick thing to say. I hereby retract my previous post.

The fact that you thought it in the first place still makes you a dick.

Dick.

ಠ_ಠ

Bathia_Mapes: True, but using a cheap disposable phone would make it damned near impossible for the police to trace. You can get a really basic Tracfone for around $8 in my area, and they're probably just as cheap elsewhere.

Whomever is doing this has planned this pretty well if they haven't been caught by now. They might be using pay phones, but those are getting harder and harder to find in most cities. A disposable phone just seems the more likely option.

Also, another thought came to me. You can use an inactive cell phone, one with no minutes on it at all, to call 911.

Yeah, but really who tries this hard to screw with people? Sounds like someone is pretty messed up.

Bathia_Mapes: Bondith: Bathia_Mapes
Perhaps someone is purchasing cheap prepaid phones. You can activate some of them without giving a name (real or false) or address. Tracfone allows you to do this, and since cell phone numbers are often recycled, it would be difficult to track down whomever is making the calls.

That's a lot of effort to go to just to prank someone.

I'm not dismissing your suggestion, I'm just pondering what kind of sociopathy it would take for someone to take that effort. I've been on Fark long enough to know that it's not unheard of.

True, but using a cheap disposable phone would make it damned near impossible for the police to trace. You can get a really basic Tracfone for around $8 in my area, and they're probably just as cheap elsewhere.

Whomever is doing this has planned this pretty well if they haven't been caught by now. They might be using pay phones, but those are getting harder and harder to find in most cities. A disposable phone just seems the more likely option.

Also, another thought came to me. You can use an inactive cell phone, one with no minutes on it at all, to call 911.

It sounds like that prank call group. They share notes on how to get around tracing, etc. And unlike most who just do it for the lulz, they seem to take sadisitic pleasure in altering real world events through their pranks. Remember that guy who had the wendy's manager stripping and torturing his employee?

He's probably seeing if he can get them to move out and chalk up a "win". If he wasn't doing it to them, he'd simply find somebody else to be doing it to. He's probably not even over 18.

Farkin with a Muslim, just good, clean,fun.

Amos Quito: You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

The problem is the popular conception of 'tracing the call' as shown on on TV and in the movies is ... wrong.

Each phone line starts in the phone company's Central Office at the Switch. It then leaves the CO on a particular Pair of wires in a particular Cable. This Cable/Pair ends up at an 'F1 terminal' (Facility #1). In a city, the F1 is usually in the basement of a large building on a street corner. In the county, it's a 'green box' on the side of the road or on a pole:





These F1 terminals also have one end of the F2 cables. The F2 cables lead to other, smaller, terminals along the street. (In some cases, additional cables, F3 through F9, are used as well.) The incoming phone line (lets say F1 Cable 100, Pair 101) is cross-connected to the appropriate F2 Cable/Pair (Lets say F2 Cable 2222, Pair 20). The other end of the F2 Cable/Pair ends up at the nearest terminal for the intended destination of the line- in a city, it's in the building' basement or on the rear wall, or sometimes on a pole out front. Then a line is run from there to the destination. kinda like this:



As you can see, there are several places where a person can 'clip on' to the line- at the F1 or F2, for instance, or just outside the house where the line enters. Any calls made while attached to the line will show up as coming from that line- as they indeed are coming from it.

When 'tracing' the line, the phone company simply sees what Cable/Pair the call is coming from, and looks up the records to see where that line ends. They do not take into account the fact that someone could be clipped onto the line.

/and that's not even getting into Bridge Taps

fredklein: Amos Quito: You would think they'd have ways of tracing calls.

The problem is the popular conception of 'tracing the call' as shown on on TV and in the movies is ... wrong.

...

That's all well and good, but as Bathia_Mapes pointed out any idiot with a pre-E911 cellphone can make basically untraceable prank calls to 911, regardless of if the phone has ever even been activated.