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(Hot Air) Amusing A view of American politics from across the pond: "There seems to be a growing understanding among voters that the United States of America is not a pizza, or even a pizza company"   (hotair.com) divider line 89
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2011-11-12 08:36:06 PM
Well at least we don't have a royal family.
 
2011-11-12 08:48:37 PM
Heh, that's pretty spot-on.
 
2011-11-12 08:49:26 PM
Mugato: Well at least we don't have a royal family.

No..worse. We have the Kardashians.
 
2011-11-12 08:51:08 PM
Mugato: Well at least we don't have a royal family.

And this is relevant how?
 
2011-11-12 09:02:29 PM
You know, I don't like Cain. I don't like his politics, I don't like his style, and it appears that he's a pretty big dick, too.

But whatever I feel about him, this Godfather's pizza thing is absolute bum rap. We think nothing of electing people whose sole qualification is that they can play a game, or act. Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

Farking absurd. Take him down because he's a jerk, and his policies make no sense. Not because he happens to know the restaurant business.
 
2011-11-12 09:18:17 PM
Babwa Wawa: Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

I'd say he's unqualified because he pretends he is an absolute outsider, yet actually chaired a Fed Reserve bank. And I say he's unqualified because he doesn't ever reference his degree, I had no idea he has that, but that he thinks running a business means he will be great at running the Federal government when they are completely different.

If you're dumb enough to think a business is the same thing as government, I don't want you in the government.
 
2011-11-12 09:58:54 PM
www.theblaze.com
 
2011-11-12 10:28:21 PM
"There seems to be a growing understanding among voters ,,,

I call 'Bullshiat!'
 
2011-11-12 10:53:14 PM
GAT_00: I'd say he's unqualified because he pretends he is an absolute outsider, yet actually chaired a Fed Reserve bank.

And you know what the National Restaurant Association is, right?
 
2011-11-12 11:03:47 PM
Nina_Hartley's_Ass: GAT_00: I'd say he's unqualified because he pretends he is an absolute outsider, yet actually chaired a Fed Reserve bank.

And you know what the National Restaurant Association is, right?


He ran a Fed Reserve bank. You can't be an outsider with that, period.
 
2011-11-12 11:21:08 PM
I say he's unqualified because he sexually harasses women...

Though, Clinton was a pretty good president and he was a sexual harasser.
Maybe I should rethink this whole anti-Herman Cain stance.
 
2011-11-12 11:23:01 PM
And subby used the Hot Air link instead of the original Guardian piece because... this is Fark?
 
2011-11-12 11:53:12 PM
Their view of just about everything America from 'across the pond' is rooted in 235 years of butt hurt.

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2011-11-13 12:30:24 AM
Babwa Wawa: Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

no one has claimed he in unqualified because of those things.
 
2011-11-13 01:12:31 AM
on their way to the castle in which languishes the enchanted princess

Message from the last debate: "Sorry everyone but the princess is in another castle."
 
2011-11-13 01:12:48 AM
I wish it were simply butthurt.
As a temporary immigrant, I can assure you though:

It's mostly horror. Wonderous, incredulous horror.
 
2011-11-13 01:17:59 AM
Oh god world, I apologize. I mean this with the whole of my heart. I'm sorry for Herman Cain and the Tea Party. I'm sorry for Sarah Palin. I'm sorry for the cowboy stereotype.

But, you can't blame us for Bryan Adams or Keanu Reeves. I'd like you to keep that in mind as you judge us.
 
2011-11-13 01:27:10 AM
From what I can gather so far being in charge of a pizza company is not what should disqualify him. Being an intellectually incurious asshole should disqualify him.
 
2011-11-13 01:28:28 AM
log_jammin: Babwa Wawa: Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

no one has claimed he in unqualified because of those things.


Is that a challenge? Cause my copy/paste skills are still pretty top notch.

Herman Cain is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC.

OK, now, with that out of the way, we can get to the real analysis.


There are, generally, three main types of politicians. There are good politicians, bad politicians, and normal politicians.

Good politicians come up with good ideas, explain/sell them well to the public, and are able to push them through the legislature. They're also about as common as fairies and unicorns.

Normal politicians come in two varieties. One variety has good ideas, but fails at either explaining/selling their ideas to the public and/or pushing them through the legislature. Health care reform presents plenty of examples of this. The other variety has bad ideas, but is adept at packaging their ideas and maneuvering through the legislative process.

And finally, we have bad politicians, who have bad ideas, but can't even manage to market them effectively enough to make it to the normal politician group.

There are always a few bad politicians that manage to make it into the mainstream presidential race...but this election's GOP crop is astoundingly full of them...and Herman Cain is one of them. Not only are his ideas bad, his message and communication are all over the farking place.
 
2011-11-13 01:31:09 AM
shivashakti: I say he's unqualified because he sexually harasses women...

Though, Clinton was a pretty good president and he was a sexual harasser.
Maybe I should rethink this whole anti-Herman Cain stance.


Clinton wasn't a sexual harasser, he was a cheater. One is legal, the other is not.
 
2011-11-13 01:33:23 AM
Babwa Wawa: Farking absurd. Take him down because he's a jerk, and his policies make no sense. Not because he happens to know the restaurant business.

Um who exactly is 'taking him down' because of his running the NRA or Godfather Pizza? It's all been about his policies (9-9-9) and him being a 'jerk' (sexual harassment).
 
2011-11-13 01:34:22 AM
balloot: Clinton wasn't a sexual harasser, he was a cheater. One is legal, the other is not.

*cough* Paula Jones *cough*.....
 
2011-11-13 01:47:10 AM
balloot: Clinton wasn't a sexual harasser, he was a cheater. One is legal, the other is not.

Why can't he be both? If anything I'd think that being either one of those would lead someone to think that the other isn't less, but more likely to be within their capability.

/horn dogs are horn dogs no matter who they might be
 
2011-11-13 01:49:46 AM
Got to love that dry British wit.
 
2011-11-13 01:51:48 AM
We really are going to nuke ourselves, right? Before the coming enviro catastophe does it for us? Anyone?

/Bueller
 
2011-11-13 02:03:40 AM
cretinbob: [www.theblaze.com image 600x400]

Fark Hermain Cain. He's a farking joke.

Goddamnitsomuch I don't believe in this country.
 
2011-11-13 02:09:46 AM
whidbey: We really are going to nuke ourselves, right? Before the coming enviro catastophe does it for us? Anyone?

I hope not. It would spare the American people the long, drawn-out suffering they so duly deserve.
 
2011-11-13 02:11:09 AM
I like Herman Cain like I like my coffee.

Black and not my president.

/wow that sounds bad ...
 
2011-11-13 02:12:08 AM
I wouldn't be talking, my Limey friends. You are the ones the hookers and blow dominatrix Treasury secretary (new window).

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2011-11-13 02:17:44 AM
whidbey: We really are going to nuke ourselves, right?

I hope so. I've got some assless chaps and a sawed off shotgun all ready to go.
 
2011-11-13 02:17:48 AM
Based on the comments in Hot Air and many of the comments in here I would say americans deserve what they get.
 
2011-11-13 02:19:07 AM
hey Americans I can tell you what a Canadian feels about U.S Politics
 
2011-11-13 02:22:31 AM
log_jammin: whidbey: We really are going to nuke ourselves, right?

I hope so. I've got some assless chaps and a sawed off shotgun all ready to go.


i'm waiting for the optimum moment to begin marketing and mass producing pipboys.
 
2011-11-13 02:22:35 AM
aearra: Based on the comments in Hot Air and many of the comments in here I would say americans deserve what they get.

No shiat. I'd lose my mind if we elected a farking decent human being as President. I constantly feel the need to apologize to others for farking squandering all this wealth and power. This country, it seems, is dominated by the lowest common denominator. Mouth breathing unwashed farking rubes elect our officials. USA! USA!
 
2011-11-13 02:41:18 AM
heap: log_jammin: whidbey: We really are going to nuke ourselves, right?

I hope so. I've got some assless chaps and a sawed off shotgun all ready to go.

i'm waiting for the optimum moment to begin marketing and mass producing pipboys.


it's never too soon.
 
2011-11-13 02:51:14 AM
Emposter: Herman Cain is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC.

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2011-11-13 02:53:45 AM
Eh, let's not get all dreamy about the prospect of Americans developing a collective brain stem. I fell for that when Obama was elected and I'm not going to fall for it again.
 
2011-11-13 03:17:03 AM
Babwa Wawa: You know, I don't like Cain. I don't like his politics, I don't like his style, and it appears that he's a pretty big dick, too.

But whatever I feel about him, this Godfather's pizza thing is absolute bum rap. We think nothing of electing people whose sole qualification is that they can play a game, or act. Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

Farking absurd. Take him down because he's a jerk, and his policies make no sense. Not because he happens to know the restaurant business.


I think the thing people have a problem with (even if they're not expressing it all that well) is the GOP's absurd fawning over business owners ("Jerb Creatooors") as if they're gods walking among mere mortals.

But yeah, your point is well taken.
 
2011-11-13 03:26:00 AM
Beluga Heights: aearra: Based on the comments in Hot Air and many of the comments in here I would say americans deserve what they get.

No shiat. I'd lose my mind if we elected a farking decent human being as President. I constantly feel the need to apologize to others for farking squandering all this wealth and power. This country, it seems, is dominated by the lowest common denominator. Mouth breathing unwashed farking rubes elect our officials. USA! USA!


Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. It is in vain to say that democracy is less vain, less proud, less selfish, less ambitious, or less avaricious than aristocracy or monarchy. It is not true, in fact, and nowhere appears in history. Those passions are the same in all men, under all forms of simple government, and when unchecked, produce the same effects of fraud, violence, and cruelty.

JOHN ADAMS, letter to John Taylor, 1814


and of course

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.

H. L. Mencken
 
2011-11-13 03:54:51 AM
Mugato: Well at least we don't have a royal family.

Yeah, we just have a gaggle of highly-paid liars who have taken on the onerous task of entertaining us.
 
2011-11-13 03:55:59 AM
Hot Air is pointing its readers to the Guardian? This IS a strange election season.

/I know someone who is a religious conservative from Springfield. He still hasn't gotten over the Guardian's letter-writing campaign in 2004.
 
2011-11-13 04:20:08 AM
DeaH: Hot Air is pointing its readers to the Guardian? This IS a strange election season.

/I know someone who is a religious conservative from Springfield. He still hasn't gotten over the Guardian's letter-writing campaign in 2004.


Seriously.

But even so, it's fallen on deaf ears. A look at the comments section makes that completely clear.
 
2011-11-13 05:00:01 AM
Dictatorial_Flair: Yeah, we just have a gaggle of highly-paid liars who have taken on the onerous task of entertaining us.

Why bring up the GOP debates?
 
2011-11-13 07:20:57 AM
moralpanic: Um who exactly is 'taking him down' because of his running the NRA or Godfather Pizza? It's all been about his policies (9-9-9) and him being a 'jerk' (sexual harassment).

log_jammin: no one has claimed he in unqualified because of those things.

GAT_00: If you're dumb enough to think a business is the same thing as government, I don't want you in the government.

Really folks? You've not seen any snickering comments about the pizza guy? Or dismissive references to the "pizza candidate"? What farking rock do you live under? Or did you even read the article this thread is attached to? It's. right. there.

There is a difference between asserting that success in the pizza business will make you a good policymaker/leader (wrong) and asserting success in the pizza business prevents you from being a good policymaker/leader.

And I'll reiterate - the guy is a bad politician, a poor candidate, a shiatty policymaker, and terrible communicator, would make a horrendous president, and appears to be a huge cock on top of it.

But comments like "this isn't the pizza business" is bullshiat. It's like dismissing Bill Bradley because Congress isn't the NBA. It's disrespectful, inaccurate, lowers the level of debate, and with such a farking easy target in Cain, it's completely unnecessary.
 
2011-11-13 08:10:33 AM
Babwa Wawa: moralpanic: Um who exactly is 'taking him down' because of his running the NRA or Godfather Pizza? It's all been about his policies (9-9-9) and him being a 'jerk' (sexual harassment).

log_jammin: no one has claimed he in unqualified because of those things.

GAT_00: If you're dumb enough to think a business is the same thing as government, I don't want you in the government.

Really folks? You've not seen any snickering comments about the pizza guy? Or dismissive references to the "pizza candidate"? What farking rock do you live under? Or did you even read the article this thread is attached to? It's. right. there.

There is a difference between asserting that success in the pizza business will make you a good policymaker/leader (wrong) and asserting success in the pizza business prevents you from being a good policymaker/leader.

And I'll reiterate - the guy is a bad politician, a poor candidate, a shiatty policymaker, and terrible communicator, would make a horrendous president, and appears to be a huge cock on top of it.

But comments like "this isn't the pizza business" is bullshiat. It's like dismissing Bill Bradley because Congress isn't the NBA. It's disrespectful, inaccurate, lowers the level of debate, and with such a farking easy target in Cain, it's completely unnecessary.


Ah...so you don't understand English. That's cool. Allow me to explain.

Being dismissive about a persons achievements in life is not the same as claiming their achivments should prevent them from doing something else.

"Lol pizza guy!" Is not the same as "he owned a pizza business. That means he should not be president". It just means "lol pizza guy".

The accusation you're making exists only in your mind.
 
2011-11-13 08:10:49 AM
Emposter: Herman Cain [...] has an advanced degree in mathematics

Wow - I thought his 9-9-9 plan was just stupid, but now I realise it's dishonest.
 
2011-11-13 09:04:45 AM
Wyalt Derp: Emposter: Herman Cain [...] has an advanced degree in mathematics

Wow - I thought his 9-9-9 plan was just stupid, but now I realise it's dishonest.


I've seen conservatives claim that Cain is a "real rocket scientist!" because he was an artilleryman in the Army -- apparently unaware that there's more to being a rocket scientist than being able to calculate trajectories.
 
2011-11-13 09:33:50 AM
Babwa Wawa: You know, I don't like Cain. I don't like his politics, I don't like his style, and it appears that he's a pretty big dick, too.

But whatever I feel about him, this Godfather's pizza thing is absolute bum rap. We think nothing of electing people whose sole qualification is that they can play a game, or act. Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

Farking absurd. Take him down because he's a jerk, and his policies make no sense. Not because he happens to know the restaurant business.


Is an undergraduate degree an advanced degree? I thought usually when people said "advanced degree" they meant graduate work of some sort. Cain did a masters Comp Sci, but only his undergraduate degree was in Mathematics. An BSc/BA in mathematics isn't really that impressive... you don't usually hear many candidates bragging about their undergraduate degrees. It's the graduate or professional degrees that they always bring up (admittedly, for some it is because they are lawyers).

Regardless, as somebody has already pointed out, he doesn't really play up his time at the Fed. Reserve Bank of KC. Is that because the Fed isn't very popular with some Republicans? Or is it just a strategic error on his part? Honestly, I don't know why he would want to be characterized as the "the guy who ran the pizza place".
 
2011-11-13 09:38:30 AM

We seem to have forgotten the really important question here:

If the USA was a pizza, what kind of pizza would it be?


Chicago style, NY style, pepperoni, bacon?
 
2011-11-13 09:49:51 AM
Babwa Wawa: You know, I don't like Cain. I don't like his politics, I don't like his style, and it appears that he's a pretty big dick, too.

But whatever I feel about him, this Godfather's pizza thing is absolute bum rap. We think nothing of electing people whose sole qualification is that they can play a game, or act. Yet somehow this guy is unqualified because he ran a large a successful business, has an advanced degree in mathematics and chaired the Fed Reserve of KC?

Farking absurd. Take him down because he's a jerk, and his policies make no sense. Not because he happens to know the restaurant business.


Fair enough - but at this point, shouldn't we have learned our lesson regarding something/politicians? The athlete/politicians have been a bad joke. The actor/politicians have been a catastrophe. And the businessman/politicians haven't worked out, either. look and our own Arnold Swartznegger - a brilliant executive, one of Hollywood's bets and most successful - and he bombed as governor. Why? Wrong skillset. Running things from a command/control position is not the same as politics - politics requires compromise, deal-making, and the ability to work WITH others, rather than on them.
So let's just retire the worn-out, failed businessman/politician meme - it's a proven loser.
 
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