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2011-11-12 07:34:34 AM
"where they are at"? subby?

"where they are at?" admin?

ugh
 
2011-11-12 07:36:01 AM
Ware dayat?
 
2011-11-12 07:37:41 AM
Between the A and the T, perhaps?
 
2011-11-12 07:38:31 AM
joeyongames.files.wordpress.com

Some might even be laying around your town...
 
2011-11-12 07:40:53 AM
I see more power sites than missile sites. So are they against nuclear war/weapons, or nuclear power?
 
2011-11-12 07:41:12 AM
I am shocked that we had so little declassified information out there.
 
2011-11-12 07:41:34 AM
It's News that there are nukes in the world? Really, Subby?

Also, what would make that link interesting is if it showed where the SSBNs were...
 
2011-11-12 07:42:52 AM
They missed a few.
 
2011-11-12 07:43:26 AM
Blah. That is all public info. In fact, it is missing a bunch of public info.
 
2011-11-12 07:43:42 AM
They missed a couple.

/BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
2011-11-12 07:44:29 AM
Mother Jones magazine, my source for hard hitting national national defense news. You might as well read the navy times for advice on sprucing up your home for the holidays.
 
2011-11-12 07:44:43 AM
mkmcco03: I see more power sites than missile sites. So are they against nuclear war/weapons, or nuclear power?

Wow talk about making a mountain out of a molehill. The green dots on the map are Nuclear Power Plants (fun fact: I live less than 10 miles from the North Perry Nuclear Power Plant, the most unsafe plant in the country...). Those same green dots happen to make up the bulk of the markers on the map (as indicated by mkmcco03. Nothing like trying to make things seem worse than they are...
 
2011-11-12 07:54:20 AM
Thats No Moose: It's News that there are nukes in the world? Really, Subby?

Also, what would make that link interesting is if it showed where the SSBNs were...


It has Bangor, Washington (though it says Kitsap) and Kings Bay, Georgia on the map. I know that's probably not what you meant, but unless you are on the boat and/or have a top secret clearance they aren't going to let you know where they are.
 
2011-11-12 07:55:09 AM
There used to be a Nike missile base not far from where I grew up. I'm pretty sure it was already gone by the time I was around.
 
2011-11-12 08:04:11 AM
This isn't even close to the whole story. We had one within 5 miles of where I grew up in Billings, MT. You could drive up surprisingly close to it. It wasn't much to look at. A smallish concrete shallow "dome" or mount looking object and an outhouse looking object. We assumed the outhouse was the entrance to the silo and the dome was the missile doors on tracks.
 
2011-11-12 08:04:56 AM
erewhon: They missed a few.

Quite a few.
 
2011-11-12 08:06:02 AM
The map location for the Clinton, IL plant is where Clinton, IA is ....FAIL
 
2011-11-12 08:08:45 AM
Agree with other posters, headline is far from correct. Read TFA... Those are mainly power plants
 
2011-11-12 08:10:36 AM
Where they are at?
 
2011-11-12 08:10:40 AM
What some actual storage bunkers look like:
27.media.tumblr.com

/have been inside most of these
 
2011-11-12 08:12:15 AM
leevis: There used to be a Nike missile base not far from where I grew up. I'm pretty sure it was already gone by the time I was around.

They relocated it to a third world country where children make the missiles now.
 
2011-11-12 08:12:51 AM
SnarfVader: Thats No Moose: It's News that there are nukes in the world? Really, Subby?

Also, what would make that link interesting is if it showed where the SSBNs were...

It has Bangor, Washington (though it says Kitsap) and Kings Bay, Georgia on the map. I know that's probably not what you meant, but unless you are on the boat and/or have a top secret clearance they aren't going to let you know where they are.


Probably more like a TS/SCI/sexual deviance scope...

In any case it's need to know, and that's a VERY small list. So long story short... you wont know where they are
 
2011-11-12 08:14:03 AM
It's news to somebody that the U.S. has nukes? Seriously?

I'm looking forward to the next shocking newsflash exclusive when whackadoodle jones discovers the U.S has running water and electricity.
 
2011-11-12 08:15:02 AM
leevis: There used to be a Nike missile base not far from where I grew up. I'm pretty sure it was already gone by the time I was around.

It wasn't real - it was a trainer.
 
2011-11-12 08:18:01 AM
Tio_Holtzmann: Mother Jones magazine, my source for hard hitting national national defense news. You might as well read the navy times for advice on sprucing up your home for the holidays.

Are you thinking of Mother Earth?

Anyway... I would feel better if fewer of them were in the path of hurricanes.

l2.yimg.com
 
2011-11-12 08:18:23 AM
Kentucky Fried Children: SnarfVader: Thats No Moose: It's News that there are nukes in the world? Really, Subby?

Also, what would make that link interesting is if it showed where the SSBNs were...

It has Bangor, Washington (though it says Kitsap) and Kings Bay, Georgia on the map. I know that's probably not what you meant, but unless you are on the boat and/or have a top secret clearance they aren't going to let you know where they are.

Probably more like a TS/SCI/sexual deviance scope...

In any case it's need to know, and that's a VERY small list. So long story short... you wont know where they are


Captain on my boat would post our location on a map outside of the wardroom. It wasn't like we were going to run off and tell anyone.

/cssbn
 
2011-11-12 08:18:53 AM
Hey, Mother Jones - that's interesting. All of the nukes, eh?

I guess Russia, China, Pakistan, France, the UK, Israel and India all just made theirs go away, huh?

Wait - you're only concerned with the weapons pointed AWAY from the US? Everyone else still has theirs?

That's weird.
 
2011-11-12 08:19:39 AM
"Them" being nuke plants, it appears.
 
2011-11-12 08:21:30 AM
I played cricket at one of the US military bases in the UK back in the early 1970's. A whole load of sirens went off and pretty well the whole of the home side just raced off, causing the game to be immediately abandoned. We were all shiatting bricks, of course, praying that it was just a drill.

It was n't - and we all died instantly when the incoming ICBMs took out the base , of course.
 
2011-11-12 08:27:26 AM
Yup. The only scary thing about that map is how incomplete and outright incorrect it is. It left out anything outside the 48 continental US states. No Elmensdorf AFB in Alaska, nothing at Pearl Harbor, no marker for the US/UK joint SSBN base at Faslane in Scotland, nothing for the tactical nukes at NATO airbases, no non-SSBN naval facilities at all listed despite the number of nukes we still keep on board our aircraft carriers...
 
2011-11-12 08:31:21 AM
FTA: President Obama's push for a nuclear-weapons-free world is moving at a frustrating, glacial pace.

Yeah, President Obama, WTF? Can't you do anything right? I mean everyone else is gotten their acts together and decommissioned their nukes. I mean Pakistan just used the last of theirs to power a Pink Floyd laser light show and a Monsters of Rock concert. Iran recently said they have no plans for nukes, so we don't have to worry about them any more. What's the hold up Obama? For Christ's sake China ground all theirs up and uses them to make Elmo Live! dolls stay warm at night (no batteries needed) for added "cuddly goodness".

That map doesn't scare me near as much as the world version would.
 
2011-11-12 08:31:34 AM
luckyeddie: I played cricket at one of the US military bases in the UK back in the early 1970's. A whole load of sirens went off and pretty well the whole of the home side just raced off, causing the game to be immediately abandoned. We were all shiatting bricks, of course, praying that it was just a drill.

It wasn't a drill. It was an excuse. The Americans were down 8 wickets and decided to cause a ruckus. It's like accidentally knocking over the chess board when you are down a knight.
 
2011-11-12 08:34:43 AM
ThrobblefootSpectre: luckyeddie: I played cricket at one of the US military bases in the UK back in the early 1970's. A whole load of sirens went off and pretty well the whole of the home side just raced off, causing the game to be immediately abandoned. We were all shiatting bricks, of course, praying that it was just a drill.

It wasn't a drill. It was an excuse. The Americans were down 8 wickets and decided to cause a ruckus. It's like accidentally knocking over the chess board when you are down a knight.


The cheating bastards. It's all coming back to me now.
 
2011-11-12 08:36:25 AM
vudukungfu: I am shocked that we had so little declassified information out there.

Agree. That map was laughable. I personally know of 6 locations that have nuclear missiles that were not on that map. And I'm a civilian.
 
2011-11-12 08:40:41 AM
Reading the comments on that article is like walking into a room of people with underwear shoved so far up their asses they can't.... uhhhh...

You know, I really shouldn't have started that sentence without thinking about how I was going to finish it.
 
2011-11-12 08:40:46 AM
I mean, wtf? Even if you only look at "well known" locations i.e. not particularly classified, they don't have freaking KAFB.

Nor Robins AFB. Nor is Huntsville/Redstone Arsenal mentioned. Crap, the list goes on and freaking on.

There's even a training facility for practicing the art of capturing/defending/"breaking" active nuke plants.
 
2011-11-12 08:42:21 AM
Feral_and_Preposterous: FTA: President Obama's push for a nuclear-weapons-free world is moving at a frustrating, glacial pace.

Yeah, President Obama, WTF? Can't you do anything right? I mean everyone else is has gotten their acts together and decommissioned their nukes. I mean Pakistan just used the last of theirs to power a Pink Floyd laser light show and a Monsters of Rock concert. Iran recently said they have no plans for nukes, so we don't have to worry about them any more. What's the hold up Obama? For Christ's sake China ground all theirs up and uses them to make Elmo Live! dolls stay warm at night (no batteries needed) for added "cuddly goodness".

That map doesn't scare me near as much as the world version would.


FTFM
 
2011-11-12 08:45:18 AM
BTW, the whole "Obama pushing for a nuclear free world" blithely ignores the fact that Sandia's happily running on with their no-maintenance weapon designs.
 
2011-11-12 08:45:28 AM
I suspect nukes will be with us as long as the evil and crazy people exist.
 
2011-11-12 08:47:38 AM
AnubisMan: [joeyongames.files.wordpress.com image 400x250]

Some might even be laying around your town...


I was thinking the exact same thing.

sharetv.org
 
2011-11-12 08:54:29 AM
Alleyoop: Anyway... I would feel better if fewer of them were in the path of hurricanes.

They're designed to survive airplane crashes and long duration fires. I don't think a hurricane is much of a threat to them.
 
2011-11-12 09:02:50 AM
It looks a lot like a "My first google map" project.

/No points awarded, and may god have mercy on your soul.
 
2011-11-12 09:20:17 AM
Fluxinator: vudukungfu: I am shocked that we had so little declassified information out there.

Agree. That map was laughable. I personally know of 6 locations that have nuclear missiles that were not on that map. And I'm a civilian.


I think Barksdale AFB in Louisiana is declassified because of that one time they lost some of their nukes.
 
2011-11-12 09:30:01 AM
badhatharry: I think Barksdale AFB in Louisiana is declassified because of that one time they lost some of their nukes.

No.
Barksdale did not 'lose' any of their nukes. Minot, ND did.

Some supposedly empty ALCM missile bodies were being flown from Minot to Barksdale on a B-52 for destruction. Several levels of geniuses at Minot did not verify that the missile bodies were in fact, sans warhead, as they were supposed to be.
Aircraft arrives at Barksdale, with missiles attached. All seems normal. Not until the next morning when the load crews were unloading these "empty" missiles, that they discovered that they were in fact, not empty.

Many heads rolled.

As far as being 'declassified'...the existence of warheads is still on a "neither confirm nor deny" status...yes, even for Barksdale.
Now...if you zoom in to some select air bases around the country, you may see structures that may or may not contain missiles, which may or may not have warheads in them.
 
2011-11-12 09:31:29 AM
I noticed there's no silo's on that map. That would have really upped the scare factor for that website.
 
2011-11-12 09:36:20 AM
SnarfVader: Kentucky Fried Children: SnarfVader: Thats No Moose: It's News that there are nukes in the world? Really, Subby?

Also, what would make that link interesting is if it showed where the SSBNs were...

It has Bangor, Washington (though it says Kitsap) and Kings Bay, Georgia on the map. I know that's probably not what you meant, but unless you are on the boat and/or have a top secret clearance they aren't going to let you know where they are.

Probably more like a TS/SCI/sexual deviance scope...

In any case it's need to know, and that's a VERY small list. So long story short... you wont know where they are

Captain on my boat would post our location on a map outside of the wardroom. It wasn't like we were going to run off and tell anyone.

/cssbn


I was referring to your average joe or gov't lackey, not someone actually in the silent service :)
 
2011-11-12 09:52:03 AM
leevis: There used to be a Nike missile base not far from where I grew up.

I live about 25 miles from the north end of the runway at Dyess AFB. In the early 60s Dyess was ringed by 12 Atlas F missiles as well as some Nike batteries. There are 2 old silos within 6 miles of my house. Dyess housed nukes (to be delivered on B-1s) until the early 90s. It was kind of comforting to know back then that if there was an exchange, we would have been vaporized in the first salvo.

I really am fascinated by the cold war era and the activities that went on during that time. Here's a few sites to kill some time on if you're so inclined (too lazy to link...copy pasta)

http://www.conelrad.com/index.php

All things atomic. Some pretty surreal stuff.

http://www.strategic-air-command.com/

All about SAC. I went to the base listing and looked them up on Google Maps. I got interested in the evolution from the massive bases, Loring Barksdale, Dyess, to the remote, Clinton Sherman, Glasgow...This site details the how and why.

http://www.atlasmissilesilo.com/atlas_f.htm

Since there are a couple of abandoned F silos (Anson and Corinth West), I did a little research. Theres some good stuff here on the platform. The home page http://www.atlasmissilesilo.com/ has a few other good links.
 
2011-11-12 09:52:56 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: badhatharry: I think Barksdale AFB in Louisiana is declassified because of that one time they lost some of their nukes.

No.
Barksdale did not 'lose' any of their nukes. Minot, ND did.

Some supposedly empty ALCM missile bodies were being flown from Minot to Barksdale on a B-52 for destruction. Several levels of geniuses at Minot did not verify that the missile bodies were in fact, sans warhead, as they were supposed to be.
Aircraft arrives at Barksdale, with missiles attached. All seems normal. Not until the next morning when the load crews were unloading these "empty" missiles, that they discovered that they were in fact, not empty.

Many heads rolled.

As far as being 'declassified'...the existence of warheads is still on a "neither confirm nor deny" status...yes, even for Barksdale.
Now...if you zoom in to some select air bases around the country, you may see structures that may or may not contain missiles, which may or may not have warheads in them.


It was definitely a major league screw up.
 
2011-11-12 09:55:11 AM
YouPeopleAreCrazy: Now...if you zoom in to some select air bases around the country, you may see structures that may or may not contain missiles, which may or may not have warheads in them.

Check the Christmas Tree at Minot.
 
2011-11-12 10:02:15 AM
I live in western Nebraska, and there are dozens of silos out here. I can think of about 6 within an hours drive in any direction.

/don't think any are nuclear tho
 
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