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2011-11-11 09:41:12 PM
Damn, there really is a fat person inside some skinny girls, screaming to get out.
 
2011-11-11 10:11:13 PM
brantgoose: Damn, there really is a fat person inside some skinny girls, screaming to get out.

I feed mine s'mores and deep fried pickles. She shuts up after that.
 
2011-11-11 10:35:02 PM
In before "high-fructose corn syrup."

Come on, bring it on. I know you're out there.
 
2011-11-11 10:41:47 PM
cryinoutloud: In before "high-fructose corn syrup."

Come on, bring it on. I know you're out there.


It's HFC... argh
 
2011-11-11 10:47:48 PM
cryinoutloud: In before "high-fructose corn syrup."

Come on, bring it on. I know you're out there.


Well, keep putting it in everything and see how far it takes us.
 
2011-11-11 10:58:28 PM
How many of these young people had parents that were exposed to "trade secret" chemical formulations of virtually everything we eat, drink, wear, clean with? Huh? Bueller?
 
2011-11-11 11:08:02 PM
cryinoutloud: In before "high-fructose corn syrup."

Come on, bring it on. I know you're out there.


HFCS is part of the problem, but only because it's a carbohydrate.

If people would stop demonizing fat and stop eating sugar, crap like this would pretty much go away.
 
2011-11-11 11:13:46 PM
Warrener: cryinoutloud: In before "high-fructose corn syrup."

Come on, bring it on. I know you're out there.

HFCS is part of the problem, but only because it's a carbohydrate.

If people would stop demonizing fat and stop eating sugar, crap like this would pretty much go away.


And do some exercise. You can't prevent Type 2 by diet alone.
 
2011-11-11 11:17:49 PM
Yup, I'm kind of like those women from the article. Been underweight my whole life. Had an abnormal blood sugar test (too low to overcompensate for spikes in sugar) and my doctor said if I don't regulate my blood sugar, I could get teh diabeetus from overworking my pancreas. It also explained my mood swings when I was hungry, sudden hunger, fatigue when hungry, etc. I'm glad my doctor caught it. Just had another blood test with my yearly physical and it was normal. I just try to avoid junk with a lot of sugar and try to regulate my meals so I don't end up having too many crashes. I've stopped having high sugar food unless I have had a full meal immediately prior; otherwise, I end up feeling like crap. This is even if I ate a couple hours before, or only have a little bit of the sugary stuff. It has to be immediately after or else I'm feeling it. Sucks, but I'll do what I gotta do.
 
2011-11-11 11:21:59 PM
I guess I always defined "skinny fat" as someone that is thin but has too high of a fat % b/c they don't work out (fat chick in the making). It's what we call a few of the chicks at my gym that meander around trying to impress the meat heads that never actually work out. Have their first kid then POW - all over from there.

Interesting though. Never though of "skinny fat" as fat collecting further in internally. Makes a bit of sense when I look at a few friends that eat like crap and rely on their metabolisms to keep thin and why they're always tired and not feeling well.
 
2011-11-11 11:33:53 PM
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2011-11-11 11:42:24 PM
whatshisname: And do some exercise. You can't prevent Type 2 by diet alone.

I will never discourage people getting off of their fat asses and exercising, but there's some pretty good evidence that just eliminating starches and sugars from diet will stop and reverse type 2 diabeetus.

Moving is critical to overall health, but not really necessary for preventing the beetus.
 
2011-11-11 11:51:13 PM
But farkers told me it was just calories in - calories out, that they were all equal, and repeatedly cited a short case study of one guy losing weight on a Twinkies diet?

Were they wrong? Are we not mere furnaces that burn things for heat energy?
 
2011-11-12 12:05:29 AM
Smackledorfer: But farkers told me it was just calories in - calories out, that they were all equal, and repeatedly cited a short case study of one guy losing weight on a Twinkies diet?

Were they wrong? Are we not mere furnaces that burn things for heat energy?


Well, if you want to lose weight only, eating 1400 calories of twinkies a day WILL make you lose weight. It will also make you weak, sick, slow, diseased, lethargic and malnourished.

This woman in the article, she didnt eat meat. If you dont eat meat, where do you get most of your calories? Most likely wheat based things such as bread and pasta, with some fruit. Fruit has a lot of sugar. bread and pasta metabolize into sugar. It would be interesting to see a study of long term vegetarians and see how they fare in the type II diabetes realm. Id be willing to bet they are either VERY small or very prone to type II. Dont know though, this is speculation.

/used to be obese and type II, killed both by killing grains and sugar -- for frame of reference only.
 
2011-11-12 12:08:12 AM
Did I not lay the sarcasm on thick enough? :)
 
2011-11-12 12:17:24 AM
Nyctophobic Gerbil: I guess I always defined "skinny fat" as someone that is thin but has too high of a fat % b/c they don't work out (fat chick in the making). It's what we call a few of the chicks at my gym that meander around trying to impress the meat heads that never actually work out. Have their first kid then POW - all over from there.

Interesting though. Never though of "skinny fat" as fat collecting further in internally. Makes a bit of sense when I look at a few friends that eat like crap and rely on their metabolisms to keep thin and why they're always tired and not feeling well.


This is me. Thin, never exercise, love me some carbs. Two slices of bread with Nutella for breakfast every day, and being Asian/Italian, eat a lot of rice and noodles. I am always tired, though I usually attribute it to the fact that I don't drink coffee and have very little caffeine intake. I have a sensitive stomach too, it's always getting upset at one thing or another.

I'm trying to eat a bit healthier, but sometimes I find it hard to eat fresh produce at home, largely because I eat very small portion sizes and things tend to go bad before they are eaten. I hate exercising. I always feel like there is something else I'd rather do with my time, like read or paint or something. The only thing that's been able to get me moving lately is that Just Dance game for the Wii and even that I don't do too much.

I'm doomed for diabeetus -_-
 
2011-11-12 12:35:48 AM
stainedglassdoll: I'm trying to eat a bit healthier, but sometimes I find it hard to eat fresh produce at home, largely because I eat very small portion sizes and things tend to go bad before they are eaten.

That used to be me. Then I figured out that frozen produce was the way to go. Get out what you need then put the rest back in the freezer. If you need to thaw it quickly, submerge it in warm water. There's also certain produce that keeps for very long periods in the refrigerator, such as carrots. Granted, neither of these approaches is 'fresh', but I find that I don't need picked-that-day freshness anyway, and I suspect most people don't either.
 
2011-11-12 12:42:02 AM
Personally the way I look at it if you eat for sustenance and you're actually burning those calories off by exercising/strenuous activity you shouldn't have a problem.

Nothing wrong with junk/processed food, just don't eat it every waking hour of every day. Once or twice a week won't kill you.
 
2011-11-12 12:44:02 AM
Is it bad that the first thing that came to my mind as I read that headline was Hipster AIDS?
 
2011-11-12 12:51:35 AM
jjorsett: stainedglassdoll: I'm trying to eat a bit healthier, but sometimes I find it hard to eat fresh produce at home, largely because I eat very small portion sizes and things tend to go bad before they are eaten.

That used to be me. Then I figured out that frozen produce was the way to go. Get out what you need then put the rest back in the freezer. If you need to thaw it quickly, submerge it in warm water. There's also certain produce that keeps for very long periods in the refrigerator, such as carrots. Granted, neither of these approaches is 'fresh', but I find that I don't need picked-that-day freshness anyway, and I suspect most people don't either.


Many frozen veggies are nutritionally as fresh as the fresh produce in your supermarket afaik
 
2011-11-12 12:55:00 AM
stainedglassdoll
This is me. Thin, never exercise, love me some carbs. Two slices of bread with Nutella for breakfast every day, and being Asian/Italian, eat a lot of rice and noodles. I am always tired, though I usually attribute it to the fact that I don't drink coffee and have very little caffeine intake. I have a sensitive stomach too, it's always getting upset at one thing or another.


I'm thin but pretty far from anything resembling Diabetes. I don't really attribute it to eating anything particularly amazing or "organic". I don't eat fast food or much sugar so I do think that helps. Count me as a lady that also loves toast w/Nutella. I do have a crappy thyroid though so if I eat sugar on an empty stomach I get really tired and don't feel well. My one vice pushing me towards the skinny chick diabetes are girlscout cookies. I think I push towards type 2 every time those little monsters are peddling their crack outside of stores.

I like to think my constant diet of coffee (as in over a pot a day), red wine, and incessant distance running keep bad things in fear of my uninhabitable body.
 
2011-11-12 01:23:36 AM
I can definitely believe this, as my brother has Type 1 (stocky build, 230ish) and his oldest son has Type 2 (skinny bony thing, less then 160 now)
 
2011-11-12 01:26:37 AM
She sounds like she could just use a good old fashioned raunchy rogering. That has nothing to do with her diabeetus of course.
 
2011-11-12 01:30:01 AM
Skinny, young, and have had Type 1 since age three.

/welcome to my world
 
2011-11-12 03:05:21 AM
stainedglassdoll: Nyctophobic Gerbil: I guess I always defined "skinny fat" as someone that is thin but has too high of a fat % b/c they don't work out (fat chick in the making). It's what we call a few of the chicks at my gym that meander around trying to impress the meat heads that never actually work out. Have their first kid then POW - all over from there.

Interesting though. Never though of "skinny fat" as fat collecting further in internally. Makes a bit of sense when I look at a few friends that eat like crap and rely on their metabolisms to keep thin and why they're always tired and not feeling well.

This is me. Thin, never exercise, love me some carbs. Two slices of bread with Nutella for breakfast every day, and being Asian/Italian, eat a lot of rice and noodles. I am always tired, though I usually attribute it to the fact that I don't drink coffee and have very little caffeine intake. I have a sensitive stomach too, it's always getting upset at one thing or another.

I'm trying to eat a bit healthier, but sometimes I find it hard to eat fresh produce at home, largely because I eat very small portion sizes and things tend to go bad before they are eaten. I hate exercising. I always feel like there is something else I'd rather do with my time, like read or paint or something. The only thing that's been able to get me moving lately is that Just Dance game for the Wii and even that I don't do too much.

I'm doomed for diabeetus -_-


You probably need some more fat in your diet.......try eating a handful of almonds, fresh avocado, and add olive oil to your food. Eating all carbs is a one way street to diabeeeeeetusville. Eat eggs for breakfast (or something with a low glycemic index #, such as oatmeal).....you don't want to eat nutella and bread in the morning, that combo will spike the hell out of your blood sugar first thing in the morning and make you feel fatigued about an hour later. Also drink a glass of water in the morning before you eat or drink anything else.
 
2011-11-12 03:09:36 AM
I sound fat: she didnt eat meat.

If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding. You can't have any pudding until you eat your meat.
 
2011-11-12 03:12:33 AM
Nyctophobic Gerbil: stainedglassdoll
This is me. Thin, never exercise, love me some carbs. Two slices of bread with Nutella for breakfast every day, and being Asian/Italian, eat a lot of rice and noodles. I am always tired, though I usually attribute it to the fact that I don't drink coffee and have very little caffeine intake. I have a sensitive stomach too, it's always getting upset at one thing or another.

I'm thin but pretty far from anything resembling Diabetes. I don't really attribute it to eating anything particularly amazing or "organic". I don't eat fast food or much sugar so I do think that helps. Count me as a lady that also loves toast w/Nutella. I do have a crappy thyroid though so if I eat sugar on an empty stomach I get really tired and don't feel well. My one vice pushing me towards the skinny chick diabetes are girlscout cookies. I think I push towards type 2 every time those little monsters are peddling their crack outside of stores.

I like to think my constant diet of coffee (as in over a pot a day), red wine, and incessant distance running keep bad things in fear of my uninhabitable body.


Actually your excessive consumption of coffee is going to burn out your adrenal glands in the long run and long distance running is a great way to burn all the glycogen in your body, ramp up the production of cortisol in your body (neither of these is a good thing), and harden your arteries! So you might want to rethink what you are doing. Also, the wine is good as long as you limit it to 8 ounces per day......anything over that and you hit a j-curve and you start harming your liver and heart.
 
2011-11-12 05:34:34 AM
I just want some future medical examiner to cut open my corpse and faint/vomit/question the existence of God/all of the above and then some.

Fark you, health.

/skinny, though.
 
2011-11-12 05:42:40 AM
She was likely the victim of yet another type 2 risk: genetic predisposition.
so no matter how she conducted herself through eating well and exercising, it didn't matter. thanks, useless fearmongering article.

women can house ample junk in their trunk without serious health consequences
my bad -- thanks, useless total sh*t article.

Some doctors, such as leading diabetes expert Richard Bernstein, M.D., believe that many of the slim women diagnosed with type 2 don't actually have that disease. Rather, they could have an undiagnosed case of type 1.
no one knows anything.
 
2011-11-12 06:16:42 AM
So apparently the only thing that actually works is exercise. But not a lot or you overstress your body and kill your pancreas anyway. And of course there's no actual metric to go by.

I'll just look forward to my daily Lantus injections when I get older.
 
2011-11-12 07:40:18 AM
So, a balanced diet and eating at appropriate times is necessary for health. Oh, and exercise too. Who would have thunk it?
 
2011-11-12 07:42:53 AM
EnviroDude: I sound fat: she didnt eat meat.

If you don't eat your meat, how can you have any pudding. You can't have any pudding until you eat your meat.


You! Yes you behind the grandstand! STAND STILL LADDIE!
 
2011-11-12 08:55:04 AM
This is what happens to people who say "I can eat anything I want, my metabolism is fast enough." Yeah, your fast metabolism really helped you digest enough sugar to give you diabeetus, congratulations.

Most people who are of a normal weight range and are that way because of reasonable decisions rather than getting lucky won't come anywhere near a diabeetus diagnosis unless it's type 1 (that's "I just got unlucky" diabeetus).
 
2011-11-12 09:27:31 AM
Overweight and stressed; I realised I was a prime target a while ago. Problem is that anytime someone tells you to 'reduce stress' is usually coming from someone who's never actually dealt with stress and thus needs a good cockpunching.

Gotta go to work, gotta pay the bills and I'm not pretty enough to score a bikini-supermodel-astrophysicist. The stress is here to stay.
 
2011-11-12 10:32:18 AM
Smackledorfer: jjorsett: stainedglassdoll: I'm trying to eat a bit healthier, but sometimes I find it hard to eat fresh produce at home, largely because I eat very small portion sizes and things tend to go bad before they are eaten.

That used to be me. Then I figured out that frozen produce was the way to go. Get out what you need then put the rest back in the freezer. If you need to thaw it quickly, submerge it in warm water. There's also certain produce that keeps for very long periods in the refrigerator, such as carrots. Granted, neither of these approaches is 'fresh', but I find that I don't need picked-that-day freshness anyway, and I suspect most people don't either.

Many frozen veggies are nutritionally as fresh as the fresh produce in your supermarket afaik


Yes, you just have to make sure that you don't boil all those nutrients out and dump them down the sink.

A light steaming until the veggies are warm is all you need.
 
2011-11-12 10:54:33 AM
Well, how are you supposed to become diabetic if you have high levels of cholesterol and triglycerides in your blood?
 
2011-11-12 12:05:50 PM
As a skinny young person who just found out I have Hypo-glycemia, getting a kick...etc.
 
2011-11-12 02:14:46 PM
guilt by association: Well, how are you supposed to become diabetic if you have high levels of cholesterol and triglycerides in your blood?

Your body makes cholesterol.
 
2011-11-12 04:11:24 PM
TheSneakerWhore: As a skinny young person who just found out I have Hypo-glycemia, getting a kick...etc.

Oh hai, I'm in the same boat here. Farking sucks, doesn't it?
 
2011-11-12 04:48:43 PM
TheSelphie: TheSneakerWhore: As a skinny young person who just found out I have Hypo-glycemia, getting a kick...etc.

Oh hai, I'm in the same boat here. Farking sucks, doesn't it?


Sure does. Thought I was dying before the doctor made sense of it.
 
kth
2011-11-12 06:54:05 PM
broadsword: Overweight and stressed; I realised I was a prime target a while ago. Problem is that anytime someone tells you to 'reduce stress' is usually coming from someone who's never actually dealt with stress and thus needs a good cockpunching.

Gotta go to work, gotta pay the bills and I'm not pretty enough to score a bikini-supermodel-astrophysicist. The stress is here to stay.


This.

I do have to admit that cockpunching those people would, in fact, relieve some of my stress. Sadly, that is not really an option.
 
2011-11-12 11:31:27 PM
FTFA

"(If both her parents have type 2, a woman has a 50 percent chance of getting it herself; if both of her parents and a sibling have it, her risk increases fourfold.)"

I'd really hate having a 200% chance of getting diabetes.
 
2011-11-13 03:02:17 PM
"That's a fact Corinne Waigand, 30, wishes she had known. In college, she regularly skipped breakfast and pounded Mountain Dew in lieu of lunch to keep her wired for class. After school, she'd indulge all of her cravings--cookies, cake, pasta, chips--before sometimes heading out to parties with friends. She rarely exercised, though she did go on the occasional low-sugar kick; one year, she gave up soda for Lent and dropped 10 pounds (she gained it all back). At 5'10" and 165 pounds, she was never overweight, let alone obese, but her behavior caused huge troughs and peaks in her insulin production."

So in other words, she beat her poor organs to death by alternatively starving and binging on sugars? Who knew that could cause some problems regulating her blood sugar level.
 
2011-11-13 04:25:41 PM
Young, skinny and diagnosed 3 months ago. I exercise but hated drinking anything but soda for most of my life.
 
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